Wow, I may actually be the first one this time 😁 It is SO worth spending the $15 for the template - it’s stress free. Plus you’re helping out a small business at the same time - John is great to work with. He has a wealth of knowledge with regards to Ford suspensions plus he and his wife drive Falcons 😉

Having done this on several makes and models I use a steel rule, centre punch and drill. It does work, factory models in the late 70s lowered the top wishbones. On Falcons going lower again for racing helps a little

Man, Jeff- you just keep it up with the timing for me. I literally spent the last hour POR-ing upper/lower control and steering arms with a first coat. Different than Ford stuff, but it's motivating me more all the same! Good vid!

Thank you Jeff, I have been waiting to see someone I trust do this "mod". My 67 fastback will be getting this done asap.

I love your videos. You guys are class acts too. I think everytime ive commented or asked a question you have always responded & answered. I really appreciate that. Still got time for us lil guys. I can't even get my girlfriend to give me a response most of the time!Great job guys.

I got my template and roller idler arm from open tracker racing for my 67 mustang today can't wait.

Anyone deciding to do this, while you have all the control arms out do yourself a favor and get the shock tower strengthening plates. Have them welded in. Mustangs are known for weak shock towers. This drop is a must for early model Mustangs.

Thanks for the video! I need to do this drop

Great video 👍

Jeff I may need you to testify on my behalf. After watching so many of your videos I decided to get serious about doing a couple mods on my 66 Fairlane. I bought the car in ignorance cause I fell for the “it’s an original GT 390 car that had the engine swapped for fuel economies sake” I figured since someone already went to the trouble of making it look like a Z code car I might as well make it run like one. So I came across a coyote engine, tranny, and all the fixings out of a 2020 mustang and am going to yank the 289 that she has in it now and do a serious restomod. Only problem is I dropped 10 grand on all the stuff and forgot to ask my wife how she felt about such a large purchase. When she found out naturally I done the only thing I could think of and blamed it on you and all your videos. Jeff never asks his wife about anything in his videos…..

Just got this kit in the mail today for my 68 Cougar. 😂 doing the whole front end and thought “why not”

Nothing wrong with making them yourself. BTW, in Australia, we've been doing a similar mod to our Holdens since the 1950s.

did a paper template, worked just fine.

My control arms on my 68 Torino are pretty funky so I ordered a SPC 94210 which has a Shelby drop already built into the new upper control arm this way you don’t have to drill any new holes and it also has additional positioning for the upper ball joint so that you could have adjustments on that also. I did go with the better quality Moog lower control arm and Moog tire rod ends and all other suspension components. I also used SPC83160 camber adjustment bolts and Global West strut rod bushings SRB5 Presently stripping the whole wheel well area out to bare metal and will be doing Por15 shortly. I almost forgot I’m going with the Open Tracker roller spring perches also.

HI Jeff, I purchased the SSBC 4 piston caliper conversion set and the Autokrafter spindles for my 65 Ranchero V-8 289. If I do this drop, should I go straight 1" down since there is a offset spindle being used? Should I get the 67-70 template?

Thanks for the video very good

Here is my modification to this. I did exactly what Jeff is doing and yes use the 17/32nd bit. . Than when I put new upper control arm bushings in the arms I shifted the shaft back about an 1/8th of an inch giving me a little more caster. Than I took a new 1968 big block coil spring, cut one third of a coil and installed. I than installed new KYB shocks. The result, the car sits level (no nose dive). Second the amount of shimming is almost nothing. It is almost hard mounted. Jeff at Gran Torismo in Atlanta aligned the car with me sitting in it. And I get no tire rub. One inch front sway bar and rear 11/16th Stan Bar, both with adjustable hime joints. One extra half leaf on the rear. I also welded extra 1/4" steel below the spring perches for extra strength. All othe bushing polyurethane. I added a tower and Monte Carlo shock mount tower braces. I have taken it many laps aroung Road Atlanta. Any thing I do to this car I want it to be a sleeper, and look bone dead stock. Even the track tech at Road Atlanta didn't know I had a Tremec 5spd, because did a mod using the original factory Z-bar and clutch linkage. So is it worth it? Oh yes. On turn one at Road Atlanta, I out cornered a 1985 GT Mustang, who skidded off the track.

All videos talk about putting the Shelby drop but what does it do exactly?

I used same DeWalt, until battery died and then used corded one. Had to special order last bit like you said. My template came with coil over conversion, was not quite a straight drop, their bolts were a little closer as well.

67 ranchero I'm doing a drop and running into problems getting the a arm to fit into the lower position. The tower gets narrower towards the bottom and the bushing nut is hitting the back area of the tower and won't let the arm go into the new lower location. I used the 67 and newer version of the template. Is the Ranchero version of the heavy duty, I noticed the auto kraft site had a heavy and regular duty version.

Jeff, LOVE your videos! I am planning to do the Shelby drop on my 65 mustang with an Open Tracker blueprinted UCA but have found myself with a question I can't seem to find a good answer for, I am hoping you may have the answer. In episode 82-83 you did a Shelby drop and installed a wedge kit, I noticed in this episode you didn't discuss the wedge kit and Open Tracker doesn't offer a wedge kit nor does it appear their UCA's have it already installed. Is there a reason for this? Does Open Tracker's upper ball join have the extra motion range that the wedge kit is trying to fix or would it be a good idea to add the wedge kit to the Open Tracker UCA as well? TIA for any light you can bring to this subject!

How does the drop affect the amount of shims needed? Just did this on my 65 falcon and i have around 0 to -0.5 camber without any shims? Could it be a miss match since i replaced the spindles with c3oa? (Po used 64 fairlane, the car is inline6 from factory) Great channel! Thank you😊

Does a Shelby drop move control arms back towards driver

Would this also work on a 66 Thunderbird?

Yes on the Template ! No on the drill speed ! For everyone, reduce that drill bit speed by a lot and increase pressure. When cutting metal, heat is bad. Try it, you'll see..

On my 69 mustang if I install the Shelby drop will I need to change other parts like shocks or springs or will stock/original parts still work? Thank you

How do you know what side faces front and back?

This mod has been around for a very long time. Has anybody done a back to back comparison of before and after to see what the performance difference is if any that is readily noticeable?

I own a 65 Mustang Fastback and I plan to put a 90 Mustang 302 and 5 speed in it. I would like to be able to take the 90 front end and narrow it and put it in the 65. Is this something that would be worth the effort? I am also considering buying an aftermarket Mustang 2 front end. If I go with the Shelby style lowering and stiffening it up with the 1" sway bar will it handle nearly as well as the Mustang 2 front end? Thanks for your help and your videos!

Can you use 1" lowing springs with this set-up on a 70 coupe?

I remember At 1 time, someone offered an upper control arm kit. Is that used rubber bushings and eliminated The metal-to-metal. And having to Grease. The upper bushings dont know how it would efect handeling

Looks like when installed you had to scratch the back side to get the bolt in.. or was that your wrench scratching? Just looks like it sits right up against the body while the other side has much more room.

Stupid question: Does the arrow on the template point to the REAR or the FRONT of the car? ... AND does EVERY Manufacturer of Shelby drop templates, does the arrow point in the SAME direction? I bought a template from another manufacturer w/o any instructions and I don't want to misplace the holes.

I have found articles saying they change suspensions in 67, is the Shelby drop needed or benefit a 68 Mustang?

Seems like you could add caster when you relocate the upper control arm.

I certainly understand the cost difference, BUT... the holes being that close, it seems like it would crack. Why not be safe and purchase shorter springs?

will this be good for a 72 base model mustang .

Lucky me I have the TCP Upper Control Arms and the holes are 0.5" (per instructions) for Bolts 1/2-13 x 2-1/2" so no need to look for that 17/32 drill bit....ill attempt that mod next week so ill watch the video one more time before that. thanks

Can you weld the old holes?

The template does do both sides right

Is there any use in doing this in a 67 mustang? Or was it only from the early ones?

I did the drilling then welded up the holes, finished off if grinder and painted the area. I drive my car hard so I didn't want to risk of cracking. plus it should be a full inch of drop.

It is important to remove any burr developed by drilling. The hole will be clean from the drill, any de-burring should be done by using a flat file on each side keeping the metal thickness at maximum. Don't use a rotating countersink. You were very careful to only lightly countersink the edge. Others may not have that experience or skill, if they do both sides the hole diameter may increase. Wish I knew about the Shelby drop back in '65 for my 2 + 2.

This is something I'm thinking of doing on my 66 Fastback. What I've seen us the drop was 1" down and 1 eighth of an inch back. You only went down, didn't go back at all. Why?

I know I should Google this but will ask anyway. I have a 73 mustang coupe. Would a Shelby Drop do anything for it or had Ford already corrected the issues by then? Edited: yelp just what I figured. They say Ford moved the control arm down starting in 71 Mustangs so the 429 would fit. Also since I am ghetto, I just drill a hole in the towers big enough to put a straight zerk and grease through it.

Hi, where can I buy these in Australia please?

6:49 link, name, or brand of reamer with handle...

Unfortunately while rebuilding my 1969 mustang and installing global west upper and lower tubular control arms these plates did not exist. I reinforce the shock towers ended as precise of a measurement as I could. At least the alignment shop thought everything came out well.

Would this work on a 1970 Maverick?

Most people have a budget, and they don't like spending money on things they think they don't need. But you really CAN buy piece of mind. Usually it costs right around $15 😆 I would definitely spend the money and not have to second guess anything.

What is the front to rear hole angle. Cougars are straight.

Safety glasses my brother.

So you don’t have to replace the entire apron? Looks good. That paint turned out nice too the rest should look god once ya clean it up more. I mean Logan clean it up.... is he upstairs talking to them girls again?!

I am still up in the air on this as I have been looking at aftermarket arms that have the drop engineered in.

*I'm going to buy them just to put on my kitchen table, next to the salt and pepper...*

it is a strange angle, it looks like the temp just took you down an inch and not back 1/8th I'm sure it did or you wouldn't do it

parts links got buried, lol

Ahhhh...corded drill? What did I do with that? I know I had one. Because....well....cordless!

I would think that the holes go on top to lower didn't explain how it works

Weld them up

I just did the drop, and the Mustang is one 1" lower.

Shelby didn't do much beyond 66 cars and 68-69 cars were built by Ford and they didn't do that modification.

I find, step bits are garbage for thick material even if you use cut oil.

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Zerk! Zerkity zerk zerk zerk! Sorry!

Soft rivets

The Shelby Drop kinda sounds like a medical condition after a while 🤔

I probably wouldn't pay $15 for that either. Just 3d print one. It'll cost like 2 cents and be just as accurate.