How to Supercharge a 2.2L L61 Ecotec - Part 2 - Engine Bay, Idle, and Driving
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* * * * * Please watch Part 1 for a detailed parts walkthrough. * * * * *
This video goes through my 2007 2.2L Saturn Ion supercharger build. Begins with how the parts are set-up, modifications needed to be made, then a start-up and idle of the build. Finishes off with some street pulls! Hope this helps those who are interested in doing this build.
- Engine Bay Walkthrough: 0:18
- Start-Up and Idle: 4:54
- Driving/Pulls: 7:46
Build specs are as follows:
- ZZP Tuned (HP Tuners unlocked ECM, e-mailed tune file installed)
- 3.1" pulley in this video (I now have a 2.9" making 16psi)
- The 3.1" made just shy of 12psi on my build
- 60# injectors
- LSJ 2.5 bar TMAP sensor used
- LSJ alternator bracket and tensioner
- LSJ idler pulley
- LSJ stock heat exchanger
- LSJ IC pump and IC pump bracket under manifold
- Option B tank (single pass end plate)
- 5 rib LSJ belt (have to cut 1 rib off for L61 crank, alternator, and AC)
- LSJ throttle body (6 pin to 8 pin adapter)
- Custom fabricated Weapon-R CAI (cut-up from a Cobalt SS)
- K&N cone style filter
@louiewatson9389 5 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting to do this since I got the ecotec GM sport compact performance build book. These opel engines are so underrated. Good job bro. Beautiful build.
@Quiet_Lantern Жыл бұрын
Love it! CANNOT WAIT TO SUPERCHARGE MY 2002 Saturrrrd VUE 2.2L L61 5-Speed base model! Will be a fun / EVENtually expensive side project hobby! I already have some ZZP performance mods on her. 3 inch chambered Cobalt muffler custom installed cat back.. Cold air intake filter... I plan on this summer HOPEfully in this June get the rest of the Cobalt ZZP exhaust custom installed and exhaust tightened up. 2.5" Cobalt manifold, downpipe and high flow cat from ZZP.
@christopherrodriguez4021 5 жыл бұрын
Damn this is very clean!
@mikefleming466 6 жыл бұрын
Clean build brother
@phippsa3 3 жыл бұрын
Supercharged the z22se in my VX220. Extra power really suites the car and it sounds great.
@lsjionredlinesupercharged2049 3 жыл бұрын
LSJ owner here very impressed.
@p0k7lm 7 жыл бұрын
coool ! great designing !
@firehawk97 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@leesantos9711 5 жыл бұрын
Good job !
@OursK85 3 жыл бұрын
Guy flew his car so fast that he took a turn from Ontario right to London. ;-)
@mineman2002 3 ай бұрын
Very cool, I'm a relatively new Ion owner and would totally do this if I had the funds
@timberwolfdeckingmore5869 7 жыл бұрын
very good set up buddy!, no DTC'S!, i am impressed %100
@firehawk97 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Still going strong :)
@shawnrufus7579 6 жыл бұрын
Nice clean build. I just picked up a 2.4L HHR either turbo or what you did haven't made my mind up yet. Nice job though bud.
@burgundy4583 10 ай бұрын
thank you man
@joshuatilley8166 5 жыл бұрын
Watching this video an realized I knew those roads lol Windsor ftw
@06basecobaltls17 7 жыл бұрын
Hey man I love your setup! I did the same thing with my 2006 Cobalt LS with the L61 engine just like yours. I went a bit further and installed forged rods and pistons and threw a TVS supercharger on there but yours is so clean! I don't have any under the hood videos up on youtube yet but I do have some videos of pulls, drag race, and some autocross. L61 FTW
@firehawk97 7 жыл бұрын
I would love to go forged internals (Eagle rods, wiseco pistons and rings, and ARP head studs, with upgraded valve springs). Would cost so much though, but I could safely go Harrop or turbo at that point. Will see what happens, likely going to stay this way for a while, upgrade the exhaust and doing some appearance mods this year (lowering springs, bigger rims, redline spoiler, new front bumper lip etc.)
@06basecobaltls17 7 жыл бұрын
Vincent Colussi well so far your setup is very clean. I wish I would have moved the IAT sensor to the manifold like you did. I'm tuned without it but I do have a standalone gauge to monitor it. I also went with meth/water injection to run 91 octane with full ignition timing advance.
@tylerbellinger7526 6 жыл бұрын
JD B did you do anything to the exhaust? If so did you go bigger and do you need an adapter to go bigger?
@sergeantseven4240 6 жыл бұрын
How the hell did you get it tuned? no one offers tuning for the 05-06 L61 because of the oddball ECU it used. its literally the only think holding me back from doing any mods to it.
@tdb19872 Жыл бұрын
@@sergeantseven4240 You don't really tune it in the sense that we've gotten used to, you use a standalone system that is separate from your pcm. It's less than optimal and expensive, but it works. Go scope out the J body boys and all the crazy shit they did without "tuning."
@nomad509 7 жыл бұрын
Hey man, thanks for throwing this video up! I appreciate your support for the L61 platform despite the limitations of the tune-ability. Just wanted to say that it's definitely a clean setup and looks really nice. I've got a completely stock 2oo4 Saturn Ion for the daily while I work on my project, my 2oo2 Cavalier. I'm in the early stages on the supercharger build and looking forward to getting it all setup. It looks like you're using a M62 supercharger like mine. I was wondering what you did to mount it on the throttle body? Can't wait to see your dyno sheet!
@firehawk97 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the positive feedback, been getting lots of good messages and e-mails from people who are also curious to do this build now! I used the stock LSJ throttle body made for the m62 from a Cobalt SS/Ion Redline. For my engine there is a 6 pin to 8 pin adapter that allows that throttle body to be used on my stock harness. My buddy has a supercharged 2003 Cavalier, m62. He used his stock throttle body, there are adapter plates made for your throttle body to adapt it to an m62 blower. He's going to be upgrading his throttle body on his cavalier to an LS1 throttle body, another company makes an adapter plate for that as well lol. Your cable driven mine is electronic so we have to use completely different throttle set-ups. Will let you know how he manages to get the LS1 tbody to work on the blower. For now, you can get away with your stock throttle body with an adapter plate if you want. Look on JBody forums, may be some for sale. L61 to M62 throttle body adapter is what you're looking for
@kyleboose 7 жыл бұрын
Who says you can't but supercharger on goddamn 2.2L Ecotec.
@sergeantseven4240 6 жыл бұрын
You for sure can't on a 2005-2006 2.2, they used an ECU that no one offers a tune for. I'm so pissed. just that year model. HP tuners and ZZP both don't offer anything for it.
@Not_Loading 5 жыл бұрын
@@sergeantseven4240 Damn, my friend wanted my help to boost the power on his 05 2.2 in his Chevy Cobalt Ls, figured supercharger was the way to go. What about rewiring a new ECU and tuning it manually?
@majorchronic81 5 жыл бұрын
Similar story on my 05 vectra 2.2 sri no way to mod it 🙄
@louiewatson9389 5 жыл бұрын
It's a GM part #
@bargibargibargi 5 жыл бұрын
@@sergeantseven4240 if it's an issue with the Delphi ECU then check out www.obdtuner.com/ and email Peter with your details, he will sort if you can/can't
@EHTyrian 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I'd like to do a similar build on my 07 Ion L61. I have HPT as well, and it'd be great if we could compare notes. Any chance I can get a look at your tune?
@chrislink8726 3 жыл бұрын
Vincent, do you still have a tune file for your build in this video? I got my kit installed but it's barely starting, and won't idle. I'm waiting for my first tune from zzp but I want to make sure it'll start before I get it. Thanks for the video and the info!
@rkelley8475 5 жыл бұрын
Nice
@dieseldiesel9292 7 жыл бұрын
Nice! I'm buying the zzp kit when I get my cobalt paid off. Those 2.2 Ecotecs are strong little engines. They are underrated for sure.
@DylTheDadMan 5 жыл бұрын
@Anal Rampage you're wrong buddy.
@jamespuckett1770 3 жыл бұрын
Bro the stock internals on a 2.2 cant even handle more than 6 psi, you cant just put a roots blower on a 2.2 and think its the same as the lsj its absolutely not, the lsj has forged internals
@flyingbuzzard8868 3 жыл бұрын
Oh for sure they are bulletproof motors and they have a lot of potential
@Vasquezz28 7 жыл бұрын
i have a 2009 g5 and supercharged it back in 2014 and i had to grind the head at the same part, and also had to grind part of my alternator as it is different than the older ones lol. other than that pretty much similar install
@firehawk97 7 жыл бұрын
Papabless. We're supercharging my buddy's 2008 G5 this spring. Also a 2.2L, going to be fun!
@shaunmcloughlin2280 4 жыл бұрын
What was making the grinding sound during the poles at the end I have the exact same sound and mine's naturally aspirated I'm planning to supercharge it I'm just wondering if that's an issue or if it's just something rattling
@esco760760 4 жыл бұрын
When doing option b , the smaller hose that bleeds the air out . Where did you tap in too at ?
@klifestyle4466 7 жыл бұрын
i have a 2006 chevy cobalt lt 2.2lecotech is it the same block and will this fit?
@Richieboy_69 3 жыл бұрын
Do they make a kit for the 2.4? Twin cam? Looking for some power lmao
@lararafael80 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, do you know where the camshaft and crankshaft solenoids would be on this engine?
@cnon. 6 жыл бұрын
So it's like a fake Redline but with a different engine? Honestly though it looks good!
@KeltonPlayss 6 жыл бұрын
Are the tune files only readable by a specific tuner or would you sell me your file?
@nikdag691 4 жыл бұрын
So basically my car is complete and i had it tuned at a local cobalt performance shop he tuned it using hp tuners. Its only set to hit 10 psi max for reliability since its a stock block and internals. When i drive the car roughly 30 miles or so it tends to have the rpms bounce like crazy till the car stalls or i hit the gas it only happens to it coming to a stop and only happens sometimes i had them check the tune and they said it was fine no cel or anything. Any idea what could be causing this??
@nicholass8122 6 жыл бұрын
Will this kit work on a 02 olds alero with the 2.2l
@Riptide886 5 жыл бұрын
you didnt have to snip the mass sensor, they make extender cables and splitters for multiple sensors.
@devondevo5020 Жыл бұрын
Hello I was wondering how you converted your coil packs and what ones you used
@limitless597 11 ай бұрын
What serpentine belt did you need to use i have a 3 in pulley
@rkelley8475 5 жыл бұрын
Looking to do this on my hhr. How did you tune the ecu
@RobF3024 Жыл бұрын
You happen to remember what color you painted that supercharger?
@andrewlozano88 3 жыл бұрын
Will you share your tune so I can better understand, I have the literal exact same setup.
@limitless597 Жыл бұрын
What was your rev /shift limiter set at?
@k24oreo84 6 ай бұрын
2004 Chevy Cavalier LS Sports 2.2 I want to know the list of part needed to make this build possible please 🙏🏾 ❤
@g_mostella 4 жыл бұрын
Will all this work on a 2.4L Eco Tec 2015 Buick Verano
@WhoIzKai 2 жыл бұрын
Would I be able to supercharge my sedan 03? Curious tryna plan sun out
@flyingbuzzard8868 3 жыл бұрын
I’d put a supercharger on my Stock ION 2.2 if it sounded that good
@bonzo9303204406 2 жыл бұрын
Dang this banger needs short ratio gearing
@WWIIman1942 3 жыл бұрын
What exhaust are you running?
@beforebefore 7 жыл бұрын
nice job! reverse rotation alternator could be detrimental to cooling, since the internal fan spins backwards
@firehawk97 7 жыл бұрын
beforebefore thanks! too bad limousines and other vehicles with multiple alternators do the same thing. And it's been 14 months with absolutely no issues on my car, 3.5 years on my friends Cavalier with zero issues. 5 years on another local cobalt original alternator zero issues spinning backwards.... I'd say the cooling loss is negligible.
@beforebefore 7 жыл бұрын
Vincent Colussi - Hey, it was just a thought, I'm glad it works out good!
@firehawk97 7 жыл бұрын
beforebefore lol I thought you were sarcastically saying nice job, in that case thank you - oddly enough it has no real adverse affects although I see your point with the direction of the fins on the blades to cool it down. If cars were AC not DC then absolutely this would cause problems, luckily alternators convert to DC
@sunnyallen3587 2 жыл бұрын
What map sensor do you have
@andrewtaylor6371 3 жыл бұрын
How much would you charge for you to come super charge my ponatic g5
@ag1639 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have a stock exhaust?
@cpufreak101 7 жыл бұрын
although i prefer turbochargers, i have to say it did sound awesome
@firehawk97 7 жыл бұрын
Yes you can definitely make way more power with a turbo on these motors too, but that whine is addicting!
@johngoldstien6937 7 жыл бұрын
the whine sounds nice man, once you start pushing more boost it will get louder
@christopherrogers8316 4 жыл бұрын
is this aftercooled?
@richprovence9424 3 жыл бұрын
Hey bro. I’m almost done with my install. Just need a tune to go off of. Anyway you could email me those tune files? I’m using HPTuners
@Ueberdoziz 5 жыл бұрын
daaaaaaamn im jealous. ive got a astra convertible with the 2.2 ecotec engine, and im dreaming of doing this to my car one day. one question, why exactly do you have 2 coolant reservoirs?
@cliffordcollins9607 4 жыл бұрын
Were can I get a list of everything needed to add this to my 06 Saturn ion 2?
@randymiracle4958 4 жыл бұрын
He has the coolant reservoir on the passenger side for the intake/supercharger cooling system. The reservoir is mainly to keep the system bleed of air. I put one on my 06 Ion Redline when I changed the intercooler pump. They don't come with one stock so the system gets air in it and eventually kills the pump. The kit is called "option b".
@OursK85 3 жыл бұрын
@@randymiracle4958 Same thing if the condom gets bubbles and blow. The solution is called "Plan B" ;-)
@epicsalt924 6 жыл бұрын
what's your 1/4 mile?
@Ryguy7797 4 жыл бұрын
Could I do this to my Saturn aura?
@jonathansss14 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man quick question! Did the 60lb injectors ever give you any problems? Like idle surge or any idle lope? Or problems with cold starts?
@firehawk97 4 жыл бұрын
I found a better impedance table for the 60# injectors that worked a lot better than the stock table setups. Had to mess with the Short Pulse Adders (PWA tables in HP Tuners) to get the impedance right. Even ZZP got them all wrong and we ended up adding the 60# multipliers and then poof idle was amazing ever since. Send me a DM I can send the excel table. Shout out to 04Redline and Omega_5 from Redline Forums for figuring out all the back calculations
@thcfoeyogrammaspunkpunk7916 3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys i might buy one for 2000 new clutch 2002 is it worth it
@timberwolfdeckingmore5869 7 жыл бұрын
you bet!
@goongoon9299 5 жыл бұрын
how much did this all cost?
@jacobjarvis8798 5 жыл бұрын
I see where the vacuum line is connected from the supercharger to the boost valve actuator but where did u route the lower half to and did u run a boost solenoid or do without?
@firehawk97 5 жыл бұрын
Let it open to air. The redlines have it connected to the EVAP purge solenoid for emissions standards reasons. Is perfectly fine to leave the lower port open to atmosphere for purging.
@nickfischer1653 3 жыл бұрын
Did you paint that valve cover? I love the look of it
@noahkleffman3671 Жыл бұрын
Powder coating. I have a similar pattern but with a brighter yellow on my cobalt
@pisogavgoatarazzifan787 3 жыл бұрын
After 4 years! How is this holding up without forged internals. I have a sand rail that I’m doing a 2008 L61. I’m thinking hard about doing the supercharger.
@firehawk97 3 жыл бұрын
I built it after about 2.5 years. Forged rods pistons, upgraded valves and valve springs. But no issues after 2.5 years and the tear-down showed everything looking flawless. We supercharged my buddy's 08 G5, 3 years in now and no issues. Just keep RPM limiter stock if you're leaving valve springs stock. After building my motor and going TVS1320 I upped it to 7250RPM. Good times
@emiliobravo5592 2 ай бұрын
Where can I get someone to supercharge it
@sg0940 7 жыл бұрын
great job, now come do mine..lol
@realitycognizant7142 3 жыл бұрын
Still running?
@dieseldiesel9292 7 жыл бұрын
Beautifully done! How difficult was it to install? I'm thinking about buying the kit from ZZP for my cobalt but I'm not sure If I reached that level of expertise yet.
@firehawk97 7 жыл бұрын
oDieseLz it's not too hard their manual is detailed if you buy their kit. I pieced all my stuff together but have seen their manual it covers most the bases. Pictures torque specs step by step etc. Their kit doesn't use the LSJ TMAP sensor like my setup does though. Would recommend doing that since you can get that temperature reading after your supercharger compresses the air by wiring the TMAP temp reading wire to your MAF harness temp reading. I went to my local dealer and got the wire diagrams and pin outs for the sensors, easy to set up just take your time.
@dieseldiesel9292 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. I could always just buy an SS but what would be the fun in that?
@firehawk97 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Built not bought is always more fun!
@firehawk97 2 жыл бұрын
@Cory Scopis because half the work is already done for you. Making parts compatible, thinking about signals and wiring diagrams and PCV port alignments and doing modifications to make something without said parts now have those parts is always more fun. This turned into a built motor with a TVS blower and made 370whp. Fucked up many people with my “level 2” Saturn Ion. No one suspects the base trim ;)
@firehawk97 2 жыл бұрын
@Cory Scopis ya sucks to suck
@dubh_glas95 4 жыл бұрын
I thought this was a 2007 ion... Or am I wrong? If so do quad coupe bumper fit on the sedan?
@tdb19872 Жыл бұрын
Then it would have less power and the tranny would lose 3rd gear, lol.
@datjp Жыл бұрын
Looking to do this to my L61 soon. Hopefully it's not as difficult since it's been a while and parts for this setup are becoming slightly harder to come by sadly.
@JosephFrietze Жыл бұрын
I feel you. 08 HHR LS here.
@chadlanglois6160 3 жыл бұрын
Would this work on a 04 cavalier I have a 2.2l
@firehawk97 3 жыл бұрын
Yes my friend supercharged his 2003. Your tune will be different there is a GM refresh available for yours that will make it work. I would check out the Jbody forums for more details on that setup. Drive by cable on yours. Pretty sure guys have made many different adapter plates for the m62 supercharger various LS cable driven throttle bodies
@scottlambeth5478 6 жыл бұрын
Please tell me that's a double sided belt. I sure hope there's not a smooth side driving that blower pulley, if there is you must like belt slip a lot. Plus i'm curious, what's your A/F at WOT?
@firehawk97 6 жыл бұрын
Scott Lambeth yes the OEM Cobalt SS/Ion Redline LSJ belt is double sided. AFR at WOT with the setup in the video was around 11 to 11.4 on average. Now I have a different setup with methanol injection and a return style boost referenced fuel pressure regulator. I usually get 11.5 under WOT now after my dyno tune was done on this new setup
@scottlambeth5478 6 жыл бұрын
Smart to convert to a return style fuel system. Many aftermarket pumps can't seem to handle the variable voltage of a non return system. Very interesting looking setup too.
@YellaNeezy 3 жыл бұрын
Bro 1 quick question where did u relocate the throttle and throttle body, or did the supercharger fit right over it
@firehawk97 3 жыл бұрын
You need an entirely new intake manifold that replaces the plastic one on the 2.2L with the metal one from a 2.0L. Supercharger bolts to the new intake manifold. You can't use the original manifold or throttle body or airbox assembly, or tensioner or idler pulleys
@YellaNeezy 3 жыл бұрын
@@firehawk97 ok thanks brother I'm about to purchase a manifold supercharger and throttle body this weekend thanks for the reply and quick too
@sergeantseven4240 6 жыл бұрын
I wish I could put boost on my 2.2 but its a 2006 and GM used an odd ball ECU that no one offers tuning for. So at this point I'm not sure what my options are. I'm even considering a complete motor swap in to a 3rd gen block but shit gets expensive really fast when you go that route. I just wanted a little bit of boost on a daily that would pass emissions.
@williamsheridan9784 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in the same boat as you. Did find anything out that you can do?
@sergeantseven4240 Жыл бұрын
@@williamsheridan9784 nothing, besides a complete ecu,tcm, and harness swap and figuring out how to change the crank sensor and ignition module to coil packs. I can program out VVT if the ecu come from a model year with VVT but i'm better off getting it all from a pre 2005 model year. But its probably not worth all the trouble. As far as finding another cobalt with what i want. Yeah good luck finding a used cobalt 2.0 or 2.4 in good shape.
@jbl8916 4 жыл бұрын
Scared to do my 2.2
@firehawk97 4 жыл бұрын
No. Embrace it. Lotus overdesigned these for GM and they can handle far more power than stock. Bless up and enjoy the boost. Just upgrade components as necessary if you go intensely into it. You can live on an m62 with a 2.8" pulley or larger and stock internals all day long.
@brett2297 4 жыл бұрын
How did u get the single coils to work wasnt it one big brick before
@firehawk97 4 жыл бұрын
They changed to single coils in 2007 for the 2.2. Also uses the 2.4L cams in that year
@sergeantseven4240 6 жыл бұрын
No one is offering PCM programming for the 2.2 L61 anymore. Any idea where I can find a programmer So I can do it myself?
@bargibargibargi 5 жыл бұрын
if it's an issue with the Delphi ECU then check out www.obdtuner.com/ and email Peter with your details, he will sort if you can/can't
@JMilly84 3 жыл бұрын
Try hp tunners
@sergeantseven4240 Жыл бұрын
@@JMilly84 hp tuners doesnt support the l61 ecu for 2005-2006 because its an oddball one for that specific year and motor.
@braxtondunkin8322 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I have a almost bone stock l61 in a 2004 saturn Ion, I'd love to know the 1st legit steps you put into the car, did you do any trans work. Any info would help because I'd love to be able to build mine to your specs it already has the looks just need the acceleration
@tdb19872 Жыл бұрын
It's possible in an '04 but there is no pcm tuning ability which means you'd have to use a stand alone fuel system which is both expensive and difficult. His car is an '07 which uses a different PCM that has thning support which makes thing's infinitely easier. It can be done, but you'd be much, much better off selling your car and buying an 07+ or even better just buying a car with an LSJ engine.
@tdb19872 Жыл бұрын
As far as tranny work, none is required. The F23 transmission is rock solid,gugs used to run 700 HP through them all day long. Oddly enough it's a much better transmission than the F35 in the stock superchargered cars which break when you look at them wrong.
@tylerbellinger7526 7 жыл бұрын
I have a 2010 chevy cobalt xfe can you do anything to that? Any input is helpful. Thanks in advance.
@firehawk97 7 жыл бұрын
It's a 2.2L with different gearing to make it more fuel efficient, I don't see why not! Should be the same Gen 2 block that I have in my car that was introduced in 2007. Definitely tunable too by ZZP if you get HP Tuners or know someone who has it and can buy the 2 credits to unlock your car for a remote tune. Also it would be awesomely ironic to make an XFE into an SS and make it as fuel-inefficient as possible haha
@300tsmith 6 жыл бұрын
If anything done right it should be faster considering the taller gears
@ramock3726 6 жыл бұрын
What tuning chip are you running?
@firehawk97 6 жыл бұрын
Tuned using HP Tuners. ZZP did the tune by e-mailing me a file, I would use the ECM scanning tool to record a log then send it back to ZZP then they would revise and send back a new version.
@hummer22300 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 06 2.2 Malibu you know if this is compatible?
@firehawk97 6 жыл бұрын
If it is the same L61 engine then yes it should work. Tuning your ECM will be difficult though as companies like ZZP only support 2007 and up 2.2L tunes (they commonized the ECM with the 2.4L that year). If you can find a tuner first then the supporting mods would be the same on your block (idlers, new belt, grinding that one spot on the block for the LSJ tensioner etc.)
@marcosmartinez7788 7 жыл бұрын
i have a saturn vue 2003 whit ecitec 2.2 manual transmission and i lovet but if is posible do supercharged
@firehawk97 7 жыл бұрын
Marcos Martinez I mean theoretically yes, would have to see the engine bay layout but am sure it would be fine since a v6 fit in those. You would need to find a local tuner for your build though. Companies like Zzp and Trifecta only do 07 and above for 2.2L
@rondavison8475 7 жыл бұрын
How about a 2.4L ecotec greenline setup?
@firehawk97 7 жыл бұрын
Honestly not sure about the Green Line, i know the 2.4L can be, not sure if the Hybrid components would interfere too much with the supercharger parts
@wolfman6553 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do this without making the computer aftermarket? I live in a state with stupid laws
@firehawk97 3 жыл бұрын
I used the factory ECM. They are unlocked. You HAVE to tune it to make the engine run correctly with the supercharger and new fuel injectors, and throttle body. This doesn't make it "aftermarket" it is the same computer but adjusted internally. Make sure you're doing this on a 2007+ GM 2.2L. Don't turn off any MIL's, keep your EVAP and all of that in order.
@ag1639 5 жыл бұрын
Have you had any problems with the engine so far?
@firehawk97 5 жыл бұрын
I drove this over 28000kms with stock internals, zero issues. Tore apart motor, inspected all bearings. Was able to re-use all the mains and rod bearings they held up great. Upgraded to forged pistons and connecting rods and did a full motor build for my new TVS 1320 setup
@Prestonbeesley 4 жыл бұрын
Would the swap be the same in a satern ion sedan the 4d 2004
@croutonbuildsstuff1367 3 жыл бұрын
No, you can only SC 2007-2010 2.2s
@jasongibbs32 6 жыл бұрын
Vincent, how much torque and horsepower and did you end up putting down on a 2.9" pulley?
@jasongibbs32 6 жыл бұрын
Disregard. I found your comments.
@firehawk97 6 жыл бұрын
Jason Gibbs I'm on a 2.7 now with 94 tune, meth injection and BRFPR system which put down 270whp and 252 lbft. Never dynod the 2.9 setup with 91 gas and stock fuel system. This video also had a not full exhaust system. Check out my dyno video if you wanna see the current setup
@jasongibbs32 6 жыл бұрын
By "not full exhaust," what do you mean? Header? Pipe size? Cat / catless? Resonator? lol Curious to know.
@firehawk97 6 жыл бұрын
Jason Gibbs this video was shorty header and 2.5 downpipe with cat. Stock exhaust behind downpipe with a crappy magnaflow exhaust. New setup has the zzp 2.5 catback added behind the same downpipe
@jasongibbs32 6 жыл бұрын
It didn't sound terrible though the road. You could tell it wasn't a full exhaust by the sound. Mine sounds ricey, full headerback 2.5" with magnaflow cat, vibrant 12" res, and magnaflow muffler crush bent.
@joserobertoalcantaraconsta6663 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, what model is your supercharger? greetings from Mexico
@firehawk97 6 жыл бұрын
José Roberto Alcántara Constantino stock Eaton m62 from the cobalt SS and Saturn Ion Redline. Upgraded coupler and now down to a 2.7 pulley.
@joserobertoalcantaraconsta6663 6 жыл бұрын
ok thank you very much this incredible your car congratulations
@darkeli01 6 жыл бұрын
How many horsepower did you gain with all that ?
@firehawk97 6 жыл бұрын
Eliseo Ventura the setup in the video was around 220whp. Stock is 145hp to the crank. I dynod at 270whp now thanks to modified fuel system, water meth injection, full cat back exhaust, and an even smaller 2.7 pulley on the blower.
@firehawk97 5 жыл бұрын
Added Meth, BR-FPR system and high pressure fuel pump. Went down to a 2.7 pulley. Made 269whp and 252lb*ft on the dyno. New setup (2018) is TVS1320 blower, fully built motor, ported head, rotated mounts, 3" catless exhaust system. Estimating 340-360whp on current setup. Will dyno it in 2019 just to see where it's at.... but driving on the streets and track tells me all I need to know lol
@robinbenoit7053 5 жыл бұрын
I got a 2005 pontiac sunfire i bought a supercharger from a 2.0l colbalt ss , does the intake manifold fit ??
@firehawk97 5 жыл бұрын
Yes everything will fit with the same modifications I did in this video to the block. Use LSJ tensioner alternator spacer etc. ECM tuning will be different from my procedure not sure how to tackle the sunfires and Cavaliers but it has been done. GM offers a reflash for them too even
@robinbenoit7053 5 жыл бұрын
@@firehawk97 thanks alots dude youre awesome 👍
@robinbenoit7053 5 жыл бұрын
@@firehawk97 i call gm and he said he need the serial number from the cobalt to program my computer ... :$?
@robinbenoit7053 4 жыл бұрын
@@firehawk97 is there a trick to unlock the car its only doing 172km/h , like is there a trick to unlock it
@boostedproblems5139 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Build man, I love all Things Supercharged ! I just got done putting an M90 on My Subaru Outback, Check out the build if you get a chance.
@butcherknife1080 6 жыл бұрын
Where did you get that valve cover
@firehawk97 6 жыл бұрын
BUTCHER KNIFE it's the stock one just painted. I got it done at a local shop.
@mattlapain 7 жыл бұрын
Hey +Vincent Colussi, You planning on taking it to get tested in the chassis dyno?
@firehawk97 7 жыл бұрын
Matthew L I definitely would like to one day just to see where it's at. Especially with my 2.9 inch pulley and retune. This video was with my 3.1 inch pully
@mattlapain 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder if your close to the 300hp range.... I wonder if St Clair still has their chassie dyno.
@firehawk97 7 жыл бұрын
250 crank at best. 230 whp seems reasonable for this build. Only one way to find out
@mattlapain 7 жыл бұрын
Man when you do go for your dyno test shoot me a message. Got to hear that beast!!
@nikdag691 5 жыл бұрын
Is it reliable with the stock heat exchanger
@firehawk97 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. I used the stock LSJ heat exchanger which fits between the radiator and AC condenser. I added the ZZP heat exchanger in series since then for my TVS1320 setup
@uvweyweydiogenes2424 6 жыл бұрын
Will this work with an ‘03 alero?
@firehawk97 6 жыл бұрын
Nineteen-Eighty two Rampage look up the 2.2 cavalier builds. You're cable driven throttle body not electronic so a few things are different. And your tune will either have to be standalone or GM reflash
@aceproximetal8860 6 жыл бұрын
What kind of gains did you see I have a 2.2 grand am I wanna make a sleeper
@firehawk97 6 жыл бұрын
Alex Fuqyobish stock is 140hp and 150lbft. I just uploaded a dyno video if you want to see it. Added a larger ls4 throttle body, high flow fuel pump and boost referenced fuel pressure regulator system plus some cooling mods. Made 269whp and 252lbft on the zzp mustang dyno. So close to 300 crank now! Sleeper for the win
@aceproximetal8860 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have an all than 4 door 03 grand am locally know as the gran dammit looking to super charge
@toxicremix9484 3 жыл бұрын
WHATTTT bro I live in windsor
@burnscory3420 7 жыл бұрын
just outa curiosity i have a 08 g5 i bought a supercharger kit of someone it has a 2.9 or 2.7 pulley i was wandering i know that zzp says it cant handle that much boost past 8 lbs how did u put the boost controller on
@firehawk97 7 жыл бұрын
Cory Burns use a larger pully. Stock size is 3.4 that would put you in a safe range for boost. in 2008 they used different rods on the L61 motors and they're thinner than the 2007 and previous rods. 2.7 is very aggressive people can easily make 18psi with that. a 3.4 pully on your motor would make around 8 or 9 psi. a 3.1 on my engine made 12psi. My 2.9 makes almost 16psi now that I swapped to that size. Just to give you an idea on the pully sizes on a 2.2L.
@burnscory3420 7 жыл бұрын
Vincent Colussi so what ur saying is if i go get a set of rods an pistons from a earlier 2.2 itll be fine?
@firehawk97 7 жыл бұрын
Cory Burns kind of. Look up the GM performance sport compact build manual. It's a 108 page pdf document. L61 block and crank and bearings are all good to 450hp. If you upgrade to forged internals (do that if you're gonna do all that work... don't go to 2007 or previous non forged ones) with forged rods pistons and new rings you're good to 300hp. upgrade your valve springs, then you're good to 350. Next do head work, cams, change bearings etc. and redo all gaskets if you ever plan to go over the 400hp range. Tranny can handle 300 ish fine. Don't slam shift if you have 250hp or more of you'll rip through your clutch. I'm going to upgrade to zzp flywheel and percormancd clutch kit one day since they make one for the 2.2 and 2.4L
@burnscory3420 7 жыл бұрын
Vincent Colussi well as much as I'd like to upgrade all my internals like that or if I had the money to do all that i most definitely would. but since im poor as fuck like most ppl lol i kinda wanna do shit the cjeaper way i can go to pull a part yank out some older modle rods an pistons an swap them im my car for 20 bucks for the set ya know. have u upgraded your internals at all to handle the 16 psi cuz honestly thats all im wanting is roughly around there i really dont wanna go over 300 hp at all if i do ill get a v8 im just wanting to know if i did the piston swap will they handle the 12 to 16 psi range im wanting
@burnscory3420 7 жыл бұрын
Question bud? Lol i just looked up my engine serial number an build date the date on my door is the build date right so it was built in november of 2007 my engine was built in October of 2007 so does that mean that i have the 07 internals like yours to handle the power or psi im wanting since it was built before 2008
@michaelglenn2106 4 жыл бұрын
I'm supercharging a non-ecotec 2.2
@nikeionwynn4946 6 жыл бұрын
How much would a swap like this cost.... I have the 2.2 ohv
@jasongibbs32 6 жыл бұрын
This supercharger is for a 2.2 L61, Ecotec engine. If you don't have this engine, you will need to swap into it which can cost somewhere between $500 and $3500 depending on your knowledge / skill level and parts availability. The m62 kit will be an additional $650 to $3,500 depending on parts availability and skill level. So really it depends on YOU. Between $1,150 and $7,000 or so. **These rough estimates are for educational purposes only. DO NOT misinterpret these numbers as factual nor implied. They are ROUGH ESTIMATES.
@theroyalcrownedtiger2946 6 жыл бұрын
I remember the 2.2 Ohv on the Cavalier, I had 1994 2Nd Gen Cav, but they had the 2.2 Ohv until 1999, from 2000 and up was the Ecotec, if you had the Z24, 1995 and up it would be 2.4 Quad cam, if I am not mistaken.
@theroyalcrownedtiger2946 6 жыл бұрын
Get the Cobalt as whole car, find one thats been rear ended, buy it as a parts car, then peel out and switch everything over, the only thing you will not be using is shell of the car Otherwise all other parts will be used, engine, transmission, ecm, wiring harness, and so on.
@theroyalcrownedtiger2946 6 жыл бұрын
If you can, look for the turbo version Cobalt, the turbo factory Cobalt is quicker than the Supercharged factory Cobalt. If you get the turbo Cobalt, upgrade the Turbo, and have the ecm specs adjusted / tuned for the upgraded turbo. Might need to upgrade the clutch too.
@burgundy4583 10 ай бұрын
i would have friends if i met minds lik us. Thank you , as far as uu are i’m Learning
@nikdag691 4 жыл бұрын
Has it been reliable with stock internals at 16 psi?
@firehawk97 4 жыл бұрын
I never had any issues with it for almost 3 years when I drove it like that. Ended up doing a built motor, but had a TVS1320 blower on it at that point making 24PSI on a ported head. Make sure fueling it good, stock internals will take 15-17psi fine. I wouldn't push them past that though
@nikdag691 4 жыл бұрын
@@firehawk97 thanks dude appreciate it! Nice set up btw!
@shjesus Жыл бұрын
iwant to add nitrous to my bonestock cobalt 2.2 2006
@FirstKickProduction 3 жыл бұрын
I have questions you have a email?
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