How we Handle Firewood from our Hakki Pilke Firewood Processor -E157

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Жыл бұрын

Hi folks! We received some feedback on our last video where we used the Kubota x1100c RTV to take firewood from the Hakki Pilke firewood processor up to the field for piling. In this video, we used the dump trailer for the same purpose and then the Komatsu backhoe. We discuss the pros and cons of each, reviewed the maintenance repairs that we recently completed on the backhoe and talk about what the future may bring!
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@outdoorswithlarryrobin Жыл бұрын

Hello Jason, different strokes for different folks, trailers rut up land bad when loaded, They don’t have a place on our farm, we just use the big Bobcat bucket on the tractors work fine. Take Care 🚜🪵👍🏼🇺🇸

@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын

It does in a pinch but I’m glad to have the backhoe back!

@yvesjolicoeur747 Жыл бұрын

Hey Jason, On Outdoors with the Morgans Channel they use their dump trailer at the end of the processor. When ready to stack, they tilt the trailer but keeping the backdoor closed. This puts the wood at just the good height so they do not have to bend down to pickup the pieces. They can do that because the doors of their trailer are lower than yours. Your doors are taller but if you opened your trailer doors and found a way to install a temporary lower back gate, maybe with 2x8s, you could probably achieve the same results. As you stack, you can pull the trailer forward to keep close to the work area. Just my 2 cents to try and save your stackers back. Cheers

@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын

Good thinking Yves! I’m now thinking about metal racks that could hold 1/3 of a cord each. Would be expensive to build but would last forever! Chain them back to the backhoe bucket to control them when dumping on the trailer for final delivery….

@yvesjolicoeur747 Жыл бұрын

@@OakMountainAcotts big project. Too bad I live so far away....I'm always looking for projects 😀

@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын

All the best help is always too far away!

@savagefirewood Жыл бұрын

Hey Jason ! The Komatsu is looking sweet. Currently I’m bringing my 2000 Case Skid Steer back to a new life . The price of commercial equipment or anything for that matter as greatly increased . Again another great video cheers my friend 👌🏻🔥🇨🇦

@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Replacing commercial equipment right now really isn’t an option. I think the Komatsu needs to go back to the shop next year for a little more love and more paint!

@georged.sutcliffejr.4489 Жыл бұрын

It is difficult to see your entire layout - but it seems that if your processor and log yard were nearer to your stacks you would save time. The part that slows down the stacking process is all the bending to pick wood up from near and on the ground. It wears you out and takes extra time. I'd move your equipment closer to the stacks and use a tall trailer or the X1100C so you can quickly move the wood from the processor to right beside the stacks and just reach for the wood without bending over. I use our Gator and X1100C and the height to the bed is perfect and makes stacking really quick!

@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын

I used to stack the wood in the main yard close to the machine. Now that I have nice crushed rock in the yard, I don’t want the mess of the wood (bark and such) on it so I stack in the field!

@gerryspang5917 Жыл бұрын

Hi Jason only thing that I would change is make changes to the bucket, make it a lot bigger, and then drive right up to the stack and stack it right out of the bucket, you can put the level of the bucket at a good height and not have to bend. I find picking up the firewood off the ground is to hard on your back. Cheers my friend.

@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын

Thanks Gerry, I thought the same thing. If the bucket had extenders for firewood and I could go from 6 to 3 buckets per cord, it would be a nice improvement!

@oleberg4196 Жыл бұрын

Fixing oil leaks is important, fluids are expensive. If you could leave the doors open on the dump trailer and put a plank or plywood across the back so it isn't so high and stack right out of the trailer, less bending over. As far as the bags go,I have seen several firewood channels use them,but not for long. I don't think they are a very good option.

@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback Ole. Maybe steel racks that hold 1/3 cord is the answer? Very expensive though…

@johanneslaxell6641 Жыл бұрын

Yes, fluids are expensive. And they are not meant to leak into the nature... We often buy firewood per m³ here in Finland so smaller loads are often in bags. If the "workflow" is right they are a great way to store and deliver firewood. The bag hanging on a rack with a pallet under it, fill it and then move/stack/dry/deliver on that pallet. No need to touch the wood at all. The less "marks of mittens" there are on the wood the better the revenue... I don't know how some count when they make money stacking firewood after processing it. When the firewood is processed into a bag (here they are around 15€ if you buy more) that's it. The bag out of the way, the next in and more wood through the processor. Changing a bag takes a couple of minutes, stacking firewood takes longer time when you could be making firewood...

@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын

Stacking definitely takes time. It was a good way for the boys to make some cash when they were younger but now they are getting grown up!

@noelstractors-firewood57 Жыл бұрын

Nice backhoe. I’m sure it will last for years. Good repairs done. One thing about a machine like that is, not hard to sell, if you ever wanted to and I doubt that you will. I think those bags would be a nuisance. And costly for sure. I doubt anybody here in PEI would pay for a bag that they really can’t use after the wood is out. And at the price of firewood now, not as easy for people to buy. Only thing with the bag is the people could take it back to get refilled. 🤷🏻‍♂️. No easy answer. Have a good day. Nicer weather coming, hopefully. I’m still working at my Fiona wood. Hehe. Next step, remove the brush.

@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын

Hang in there on the Fiona clean up. The only way the bags will make sense for us is if they last for 3 or 4 seasons and allow us to avoid piling. I would simply fill them, store them for drying and then dump them out on my trailer for delivery. Then store the bags to use again the following year…

@marksparkplug7758 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jason, you have to do what works for you and I know you have weighed out your process.

@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын

Would love to get away from piling but not sure if bags are the answer or not… I’m going to trial some!

@larrykerr7712 Жыл бұрын

The way you are doing the wood,Seems to be working.Stay with that way.Customers don,t like anything extra.

@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын

Thanks Larry. When we pile, we always measure a little longer and higher to make sure full cords are delivered. Loose loading and measuring opens up lots of opportunity for error but I’m going to do a trial!

@FromSteelToWood Жыл бұрын

Reducing the handling of firewood is where the process can be optimized. I would suggest to cord the wood while it's still in the bucket, to the proper height for handling. But that involves stopping the wood processor while you cord the wood... so nothing is easy there! I think you have a good setup as is. Thanks!

@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын

Thanks Joe! I bought one of the little fuel pumps you recommended to me. It works great!

@richardbrowne1679 Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately the doors on the rear of dump trailer are solid to the top. On mine, I two feet of solid door. The upper two feet are expanded metal and are just bolted on. When I need to stack firewood, I remove the upper section which allows me to stack right out of the back of the trailer. We tilt it up as we go and there is no bending over so it’s easy on the back. My trailer will hold 2.5 cords of loose firewood. The bucket on your backhoe seems pretty effective without using the dump trailer. I’ve been looking and bags and IBC tote baskets. There both expensive. My market is similar to yours- the cost to profit margins are tight. Not sure there worth the money. You know what will work for you.

@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын

Thanks Richard. I plan on trialing the bags. It they are durable and can last loading and unloading for 3 cycles, it is a break even proposition. I’ll let you know how I make out!

@richardbrowne1679 Жыл бұрын

If your Dad still has a mill, you might be able to fabricate some pallets for firewood. Take a look at Allen’s Family Firewood on KZfaq. He has a pretty nice firewood pallet design.

@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын

Will do Richard. Thanks!

@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын

Pretty good idea with the pallets… if a guy had a carousel coming off of the processor chute, someone could pile on the pallets while another person ran the processor!

@richardbrowne1679 Жыл бұрын

Does your conveyor adjust down to almost level? You could have to conveyor feed on to a table at slow speed and someone could fill pallets off the table.

@magnerostad6838 Жыл бұрын

Hey. In Norway the customer have too pay deposit for the wood net. Last for 10 year have l heard. So customer get mony back when deliver back the wood net.

@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын

Nice! I want to trial a few here to see if it makes sense for our operation. Thanks for watching!

@smorefirewood Жыл бұрын

We need an in-feed table for our Hakki Pilke falcon 35

@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын

How do you like the 35? Hakki recommended that model to me as an upgrade or the easy 38. I would like to have a chain drive table that I could load 1/2 cord on at a time!

@smorefirewood Жыл бұрын

@@OakMountainAcotts we like the processor. It’s the only one we have ever had. The big down side is no log deck. I have videos of us running it. My father wants to get it set up properly so me and mom can run it without him.

@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын

Smart man!

@bwillan Жыл бұрын

I didn't realize the doors on your dump trailer were so tall. The other firewood channels I watch have shorter doors on their dump trailers and they keep them closed while the dump bed is raised and they can easily reach over the doors to grab the firewood. The trailer is also backed up really close to the firewood stack so there is minimal steps to stack it. The method also allows you to remove any chaff and debris from the firewood and keep it in the dump trailer. Those face cord firewood bags are problematic. They are easy to load off the processor, but after that they are a hassle move and they are not that easy to empty.

@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын

I’m a little sceptical about the bags. I’m going to try 2 or 3 but like you say, I bet they will dump hard. The backhoe will handle the weight but I wouldn’t want to rip the bags. They are expensive!

@FromSteelToWood Жыл бұрын

I was about to suggest the same about the dump trailer! I also agree with you, the bags are nice to fill. But the wood does not dry well and they are not convenient when it comes time to sell the firewood.

@tommyrichmond1293 Жыл бұрын

Well try a 35.00 deposit on bag when they buy a bag of firewood so if they return bag they deposit back or will be able just trade out bagels as long it’s return in good shape take picture of bag with customer so they’ll know no arguing if bag gets tore

@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын

Good idea Tommy! I’m going to trial a few bags to see how I like them. Thanks for watching!

@tommyrichmond1293 Жыл бұрын

@@OakMountainAcotts I love watching you and family wiring together you don’t see it much anymore. I think it will work out just fine. Need to make a frame to hold bags put it at end of conveyor have bags set an all pallet so you can move it with your tractor when it gets full then find your spot where you can put in pallets and put them out there so they can dry for a while and they should be ready to go

@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын

Thanks Tommy! We are having fun… Dad and Mom had their ATV stuck in the woods with a third of a cord of wood on the trailer… I think it would have made a good video but they didn’t call me!