@PostHawk They conquered Spain just like any Nation did like USA when it "manifested destiny."

@PostHawk the fraud is you playing scholar over the internet

Zinni was a communist and a liar his book on his fake book on history was debunked by other historians this man was evil and he misled many and his book is still misleading many I never knew about him but they I know how the schools are misleading many students and others to take America down the road to communism

@PostHawk being labeled a historian lol, and who the hell is Howard Zin

@PostHawk question, why are you hell bent on commenting on KZfaq threads about this? And what are some examples of things he lied about?

Resting in power for sure.

May he be rotting in hell!!! And he most surely is!!!

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Social movements. Cornel West 2024 ❤

It isn't illegal or immoral to attack bad guys and save millions if not billions of lives. It's ALWAYS a tough call, but POTUS has rights, responsibilities, and is ELECTED to the office. POTUS can't be guilty of crimes other than U.S. Law; only WE THE PEOPLE can be. Sadam made binding agreements to stay in power after Gulf War. Then he broke them a dozen times. He had been bragging about having WMD. He was also a devout pan-Arabist. China is hard to deal with but at least they don't hate us. A pan-Arab entity would HATE us, and would definitely prefer to deal with either China and Russia. If we were too hippie to nip that in the bud early, you could say good-bye to Ukraine, Taiwan, and Israel just for starters. How was it illegal? The U.S. President is only subject to U.S. Law. POTUS can break treaty agreements and commitments as he sees fit unless they are made U.S. Law by Congress. Some are, some aren't. Not that it was legally necessary but U.S. Congress did pre-approve the war. unanamously except for Obama if memory serves. I was against Iraq 2 but I was young and dumb. I've lived a LOT, seen thing, far more educated, far wiser now. Zinn, Chomsky, etc are GREAT Americans. We would be totally screwed without them. That said, they are only a part of the puzzle that is understanding the Worlds' realities. U.S. power and willingness to use it keeps a whole lot of badness in check. It's OUR job, yours and mine, to keep it honest.

When was the last time my government deserved it? Watch the 3 minute clip "You have no choice" by George Carlin. If I send the link youtube deletes this comment.

So you support criminals? Nice

So an author of one stupid book should determine citizens view of their "government". That's SO stupid. . Go back to your video games, WUS and hiding in your mommy's closet.

@@91dodgespiritrt It is not ONE author, there are millions. American exceptionalism consists of arrogance and ignorance. And 800 military bases in 120 countries kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h752g9Wgr6mZdo0.html Go back to your exceptionalism

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o7

The hero we need.

Good good good double good

The real MVP right here

Is that why Billions of people want to come here? Because it's not exceptional? Apple is not an American company? Ok Zinn dude, whatever

The elites know the power of unions. That is why the leaders are corrupted as soon as they are elected.

Zinn is a liar.

We don't have that far to go Gibby, now that the Neo-Marxist Biden regime is in power, the United States is the closest it has come to loosing it's sovereignty and freedom since the Civil War, all due to the vile anti-American teachings of this Communist traitor Howard Zinn, that prepped the younger generations of his time for the vile Woke Critical Race nonsense of the current era. *Enjoy your new poverty that is due to a neighborhood near you very very soon.*

Amen 🙏💗

@@godssara6758 Derrrrrp

The jijivisha is strong

You will be gnashing your teeth in the new dystopia brought to you by traitors like Zinn in the very near future. All you Commie freaks should burn in hell.

@@baldwintheanchorite According to an article, 15 Hindi Words You Can’t Translate Into English, Ever, “Jijivisha means the intense desire to live and to continue living to the fullest in the highest sense of being” (Mukherjee, 2017). Another way to look at this is this word describes someone who loves their life and has a strong ambition to prosper.

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It makes me so sad. Right wing grifters and BlueAnon liberals will be the death of this country.

It was a troubled time then! How long ago? What would he think nowadays? Cheech!

"if only Professor Zinn could see how far we've fallen" Well, considering Zinn has been debunked hundreds of times from actual historians... good.

@@surreal6643 Actual historians such as?

@@oldishandwoke-ish1181 Arthur Schlesinger , Michael Kammen, Michael Kazin, Sam Wineburg, Oscar Handlin, etc. etc.

Thomas Paine was a wacko -- he was so pleased to see the French Revolution until they threw him in prison, and he missed being guillotined by dumb luck, as the crazy radical left always eats its own. The American Revolution was conservative at heart, and intended to preserve natural liberties against tyrannical government. Howard Zinn is one of those that is blind to the that fact is only too happy to tear down the exact institutions that are protecting his liberty to spout off his nonsense.

@@graterdeddly9527 you understand in the american revolution we fought against the tories right The Conservative Party, officially the Conservative and Unionist Party, and also known colloquially as the Tories, Tory Party, or simply the Conservatives, is a political party in the United Kingdom. Ideologically, the Conservatives sit on the centre-right of the political spectrum.

@@randyg2803 I'm talking about "small c" conservative -- they were fighting for long standing rights associated with the Common Law, ones that they felt had been violated by a tyrannical King. That would be somewhat like Hobbes v. Locke -- once where the monarch can do as he likes as long as he does not threaten one's life (Hobbes) versus the monarch violating basic "endowed by our creator" rights. That's an essentially conservative idea, not revolution for the sake of overturning the existing establishment -- one can have a conservative revolution, it just depends on whether what is being overturned (such as an radical leftist regime), and what is being put in its place, like one that observes long held and established rights (American Republic). The Whigs were out of power during most of the Revolution, but they were in a coalition by the time of the Peace of Paris at the end (1783), and the PM was a former Whig -- but 1770s British domestic politics is not what I'm talking about.

Gotta love it.

Why is everyone silent that constitution of USA was written only for white people and that it is constitutional republic not democracy

@@MrSp0iler Say that again for the slow and sleepy!

Maybe it's referring to the nuclear era

It has more to do with perceived adversaries from each countries defense & national security apparatuses. They’ll always seeking a ‘boogie man.’ They can’t seek any one country as it’s equivalent & even if that was possible they would exaggerate as in the case of the former Soviet Union where US did so to exert more pressure on Congress for its military industrial complex even when relative peace & stability was present.

@@SherwinChow-cg3nw As 1 speaker said, aboriginal roots.

This man is one in a million. That will never do.

my pleasure. god bless america

@@wnklee6878 That's ONE too many. Hopefully, Satan claims him back very soon.

Zinn is cancer to our nation.

@@raeliera why would you say that?

Dick Gregory's "No More Lies" is not to be missed either.

​@@TranscendianIntendor 🙏❤️🌎🕊🎶🎵📚

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A person must believe the truth...there is no other way for anything to enter the human consciousness except they first BELIEVE that it's true. This btw is the foundation of Christianity ...Jesus said " I Am the way , The TRUTH and the Life", and those who have experienced his presence believe that he is THE TRUTH. All Truth is God's Truth .

@@markanthony3275 damn, how are you a theist in 2021?

@@Redactedlllllllllllll Because I have an advantage over anyone who does not believe that Jesus was exactly who the Bible said he was...and that advantage is called prophecy . One aspect of the Bible's prophetic predictions describes how Israel will once again become a nation after it's total destruction in 70A.D. ...have you looked at a map of the middle east and seen a tiny nation called Israel ? Well it wasn't there before April 1948. Another description of what takes place has to do with the rise of "Global Consciousness" , this is the idea that people will have in their minds that they don't need God because they can all join together, solve their own problems and create their own reality ...and this is exactly what Zinn and others like him are trying to do right now .They are in rebellion against God's design for sexuality , God's design for family, God's design for a just and merciful society, and they will replace it with a counterfeit that will deceive everybody . The end result , the Bible says , is that God will judge the world for it's evil in turning against his designs , and over a half of the world's people will die through the judgements God sends upon them in a seven year period . Some of those judgements are , burning of a third of all trees , poisoning of drinking water , strange creatures that sting like scorpions , the sun darkened and not giving it's full light, the cessation of all wind , famine , economic collapse , people butchering each other in the streets...others eaten by wild animals as they try to flee the cities and hide in the countryside...100 pound hailstones falling . The Bible says that a slick , smooth talking world leader will arise , and will have miraculous powers so that people will actually worship him because he appears to have the answer to the world's problems . This world leader will be arrogant , and will force everyone to take his mark of ownership on their right hand or forehead, without which they will be prevented from participating in the economic system ( not allowed to buy or sell anything)...the Bible calls that world leader "the man of lawlessness" and " the man of sin" or " the anti-christ ". No doubt you've heard of this , but through pop-culture which doesn't explain who this person really is and how they will all be deceived by him. I call him "the final Hitler " because in many ways he will do exactly what Hitler did...including signing a peace treaty with Israel, and then attacking them and slaughtering half of them right in Israel. Now is the time that God is preparing America and the world for judgement. He allowed Donald Trump to be elected so that the enemies of God would become enraged and start putting in place the evil that they will be judged for. Joe Biden is preparing America and the world for that judgement by continually supporting everything that is ungodly , abortion, LGBT sexuality , giving the "weeds" in society the power to accuse "the vegetables" of corrupting the garden. Judgement is coming, the signs are all there.

@@Redactedlllllllllllll Being an atheist requires more faith than being a theist. St. Anselm and others gave several proofs for the existence of God. Where is your proof that there isn't a God?

@Michael Hayes I can prove that the square root of 2 isn't a rational number. Show me a proof that God doesn't exist. The burden of proof can work this. Did you have a strong or weak father?

True, but the USA didn't last as long as the Greeks or Romans.

Absolutely. This one is young but it's falling hard and fast. It was sold out by those who were supposed to "serve and protect."

History also continues tto repeat itself.

@@Lea-rb9nc China won't have a reign, humans will be dead before 2100 even happens

@Thomas Tomei II in what way is USA great?

It's interesting to note that those criticizing "The United States" are those pieces of trash who are "inferior" to - and who do not look like - the patriotic "exceptional" Anglo Christian founding fathers that founded built and created "The United States".

If you understand this you were smart enough but just did not have the opportunity. And that is why so many who are brilliant are wasted by our society.

Most students who graduated "prestigious" schools are those Brain Washed by Narcissistic parents. Just Cognitive Dissonance that their offspring are not bright enough to figure out.

learn some grammar

@Titus Tiger The world according to my view. please call them and let them know about my posts. HA, HA

America is exceptional because it was founded on the belief in individual freedom. No other country has ever been founded on that unique principle. Take care.

@@thetruthaboutscienceandgod6921 Too bad that idea of " individual freedom," didn't apply to the native residents.

@@tombash4329 Hey, tom: You must learn to think critically: 1) The African captives were sold into slavery by other black Africans. No, that does not absolve the U.S. of taking part in slavery. The Civil War did that. 2) The Native Americans were constantly at war with one another. The expansion eventually brought peace throughout the land. Native Americans received reservation land and today many tribes rolling in cash and are laughing all the way to the bank as a result of their right to have casinos on their reservations. 3) It's unfair of you to judge people who lived a hundred or two hundred or three hundred years ago by today's moral standards. In fact, it's quite possible that 50 or 100 years from now, your moral beliefs will be questioned and ridiculed. 4) America is the greatest country on Earth. Just ask the millions of aliens who have been migrating to the U.S. just during the past 19 months. They aren't risking their lives to get to Russia or China or any other country are they? Think, tom, think. Then, watch my two brief videos to learn more about Science and God. Take care.

@@tombash4329 Hey, tom: You must learn to think critically: 1) The African captives were sold into slavery by other black Africans. No, that does not absolve the U.S. of taking part in slavery. The Civil War did that. 2) The Native Americans were constantly at war with one another. The expansion eventually brought peace throughout the land. Native Americans received reservation land and today many tribes rolling in cash and are laughing all the way to the bank as a result of their right to have casinos on their reservations. 3) It's unfair of you to judge people who lived a hundred or two hundred or three hundred years ago by today's moral standards. In fact, it's quite possible that 50 or 100 years from now, your moral beliefs will be questioned and ridiculed. 4) America is the greatest country on Earth. Just ask the millions of aliens who have been migrating to the U.S. just during the past 19 months. They aren't risking their lives to get to Russia or China or any other country are they? Think, tom, think. Then, watch my two brief videos to learn more about Science and God. Take care.

@@molliestanton2869 Hey, Mollie You must learn to think critically: 1) The African captives were sold into slavery by other black Africans. No, that does not absolve the U.S. of taking part in slavery. The Civil War did that. 2) The Native Americans were constantly at war with one another. The expansion eventually brought peace throughout the land. Native Americans received reservation land and today many tribes rolling in cash and are laughing all the way to the bank as a result of their right to have casinos on their reservations. 3) It's unfair of you to judge people who lived a hundred or two hundred or three hundred years ago by today's moral standards. In fact, it's quite possible that 50 or 100 years from now, your moral beliefs will be questioned and ridiculed. 4) America is the greatest country on Earth. Just ask the millions of aliens who have been migrating to the U.S. just during the past 19 months. They aren't risking their lives to get to Russia or China or any other country are they? Think, tom, think. Then, watch my two brief videos to learn more about Science and God. Take care.

Mr. Zinn has been loved by millions, and we have other examples such as writers of history and independent journalists. ❤

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Government: "God help us we can achieve this" Everyone: "oh boy we are about to be screwed over again".

I believe the US has had landmines in other countries. There is an international organization dedicated to providing prosthetic limbs for current victims, as the landmines still blow up little childrens' legs. I just looked it up, very unfortunately, the US was not a signatory on the mine ban treaty of 1997. That says something about its probable continued use by the US.

@@molliestanton2869 Korean DMZ is where the US refuses to give up landmines, regardless of what you "believe". "The US said that it will abide by the terms of the [Ottawa] Treaty, except for landmines on the Korean Peninsula."(Quoted from Wikipedia).

A lot more than his sycophants would admit.

@LowEnergyBoomer Right! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/atenmatotrzUiIE.html

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that "Covid" is affecting the whole world if you haven't noticed

Like January 6, 2021

COVID isn’t even close. True shared suffering.

Did you know he was a Stalinist, a leader who killed more communists than the Germans did?

Judy S. Really? How so? I was not aware of that. How did that happen? a Stalinist ? When and where? He bombed and killed a lot of fascists, and realized capitalism was full of them back home in the US

@@thethirdgeneration1738 "I was not aware of that. How did that happen?"... Well, i can't help you then. Go back to your rioting and simping.

Bismark De Plessis their called books, you read them. You don’t eat them. Try reading them sometime.

@@thethirdgeneration1738 Try learning English.

Except Trump is a grifter bum

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Horrified is probably a better word... He must have been horrified...

Even in his eighties he held tight to his ignorance. I am not impressed.

@@rolandrodriguez3854 The history of US murder worldwide was exposed because of great men like him. No one really cares you are unimpressed.

Mark Rymanowski why are you so concerned with his private life as if to excoriate Professor Zinn for what he mentioned.

@@PK-re3lu I care so that makes your immature and arrogant assumption null and void.

Which will never end

@@pitchforkpeasant6219 For as long as Is-fake Israel exists.

@@91dodgespiritrt "For as long as Is-fake Israel exists." Israel existed thousands of years before Palestine was even a thought. If you believe Indians should be the only population of America, then you should believe in Israel.

@@surreal6643 Indians should be the only populations of both north and south America . As for Israel ,Muslins and Jews were living side by side very well for hundreds of years until the creation of the sionism movement , in the wave of the European colonization of Africa and the Middle East , that brought huge suffering till now for all the native population .

@@liegesaboya8265 "Muslins and Jews were living side by side very well for hundreds of years until the creation of the sionism movement , in the wave of the European colonization of Africa and the Middle East , that brought huge suffering till now for all the native population ." False. Islam was founded in 610 AD. In 624, Mohammed started attacking and by 632 in which they have conquered the bulk of western Arabia and Palestine. Jews could not own weapons, they could not ride on horseback, they couldn't build buildings, and had to bow to their muslim masters when they paid their taxes. The entire thing you wrote was false. 100% verifiably false. Which means you lied. Willingly. If you believe "Indians should be the only populations of both north and south America ." Then that means Muslims should never attack Israel and should leave Israel as it was called Israel 10,000 years before Muslim was a religion.

Well said. As far as l am concerned having fought all my life as a Marxist left from Europe, l came to the conclusion that history is the detailing of the dirty washing of mankind. No detergent can clean the blood stain on every page on the history of mankind.

True, history is full of sorrow.. if only we can learn from history to prevent further sorrow.

@@patriceortovent6451 The hundreds of millions killed by marxist regimes would find your reference to history's "dirty washing" ironic.

@@henk7747 Marx's bull schiff "philosophy" has inspired regimes responsible for the murder of millions.

Nah we know it’s bs, the US has some of the worst voter turnouts for its elections compared to other countries. It’s obvious the revolving door politician-lobbyist-businessman, I just wished they would pave the damn roads more than the occasional decade.

No we're not. 😁

@@charlescook5542 tell that to all the right wing cryptofascist morons in the comment sections

"Us Americans are exceptional at denying" that we are exceptional thanks to the exceptionalism of "superior" people like Christopher Columbus, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.

@Bok Choy holding dual citizenship with Is-fake Israel, no doubt.

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It seems God got tired ... or his spent after taking care of Brazilians.

Only once?

They dont even understand they are constitutional republic not democracy

Walli Stag He should have been more worried about Germany.

@@NomenFugazi He did, germans prospered and were strong. Until banks were forced to finance production instead of leeching off money in Germany and then ww1 and ww2 was started. Even today national socialists are demonized by animals that call themselves humans.

I just google searched Howard Zinn leftist Articles come up explaining the HUGE failures of socialism of the 1900s that saw many tens of millions of innocent souls eliminated. The terror and carnage of this entire saga for the USSR was outlined variously by aleksandr solzhenitsyn gulag archipelago, then later explaining who was the root cause of such horrors.

Gloria Alexander, ..... ** All this bullshit was taught in schools cross the socialist countries ***. Meanwhile many of these socialist countries realized BIG MISTAKE , finished with socialism , installed capitalism and many of these countries are members of NATO now .

@@oldspammer ahh found the state department bot here

@@GalacticNovaOverlord You have found NOTHING of titanic interest. I am from Canada. About 15 years ago I was a lefty. I wanted to learn who invented and imposed income taxes among other things. I watched a series of informative videos that explained all kinds of the multiple reasons requiring taxation. The key reasons were that the country leaders who authorized the colonization of so called heathen lands treated the entire situation as a huge profit making investment scheme upon which they imposed a loans and interest charging as the structure for it all. After the late 1700s US revolutionary war, the UK king in the Paris peace treaty set forth all of the terms where he would not be as hands on with the leadership, but the return on investment the king still expected it as usual to keep rolling into his coffers. I think that the outstanding debt may have been sold a couple of times since that time, but the compounded interest on that investment still remains ongoing for whoever last made the debt purchase. It turns out that the debt grows exponentially fast and without bound not only due to deficits where collected taxes are insufficient to pay for government services plus debt servicing interest payments, even more debt is issued by way of government bonds and Treasury Notes lumped into the total debt principal. The objective to have central banking imposed originates from international bankers based out of Europe who also sponsored leftism including more recently Marxism as explained in their manifesto, starting several centuries ago or perhaps even before that. These guys endorse the philosopher Hegel's method of building up then burning down society via periodic or iterative revolutions and the making of laws that criminals do not obey, and after many cycles Utopia shall result. Trouble is that Utopia literally means No Where. And that the outcome is a delusional pipe dream. The entire thing is a money making scam for royalty of various kinds. This can be proven with a mental exercise involving the entire economy starting out as only $1 borrowed into existence centuries ago. While the economy remains only $1 in circulation, the debt principal owing has grown hugely. The entire economy of currency in circulation of $1 cannot repay the owing debt principal similar to how all Western nations have been similarly tricked. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jdKbfdt3l7mxaas.html Dean Stockwell hosts Phenomenon - The Lost Archives - Monopoly Men - The Federal Reserve System When I looked this up, Wikipedia said that Dean Stockwell died November 2021 or so at age 85 of natural causes in New Zealand.

The school day starts with worshipping the flag and then conditions you to the work week.

Don't watch any of Chris Hedges' speeches then. He is on a whole other level of Doomsaying.

@@Hanfgurkenhasser iI's a song quotation from the band NOFX

@PostHawk we believe it cuz our brains are opened. Unlike you that have been brainwashed by the same thing we criticize

@PostHawk ...and then we did the same shit. The idea of, 'X deserved bad things to happen by us, because they did bad things, too...' is the same justification anyone could use to do bad things to us, then. Right? Yet, even a critique of the bad we do is what, beyond the pale? How... just how.

@PostHawk While the west came to end it's slavery, it was also a massive national industry. Characterizing it's role in slavery as irrelevant, forgivable, understandable is every bit as wrong. I think maybe some wires are getting crossed.. because calling the west out on it's practices of slavery and later apartheid, or even how that impacts the national infrastructure today, is not saying they 'started it' or were the only ones at fault.

That's sir is the thinking of a thief.

It's a pity we can't just all get along and help one another. I feel like that would actually be easier than killing each other and being assholes.

@@sasjahuntelaar5755 And yours is the brainwashed thinking of a leftist victim who can't think for herself.

@Bok Choy so what your saying is that the "police" give you the right of ownership???....hahaha

@Bok Choy maybe you should read what i said again then 🧐

He meant those that were ready to behead, burn alive and mass murder. Hussein, of course, omitted that. Stupid man - poured a lot of gasoline on the whole of Mid East by giving Iran 100 bill.

@Robin Yu You are either against torture or you're not. Being ok with torture of people you hate is simply being ok with torture. Just like rape it is never ok. It is never ok for it to happen to anyone and it is never ok to make/let anyone do it.

@Robin Yu Are you also ok with rape if it could save lives? And what kind of torture? Waterboarding? Pulling fingernails? Maiming? Torturing loved ones to get confessions from a spouse/father/etc? Being pro-torture is being anti-humanist and anti-rule of law. And I might be wrong but I just assume you mean it only applies to non-americans and is not applicable ithin the american legal system.

Robin Yu how about if they tortured you? Appears you have no idea of what it entails!

Question: "What is THE NEW WORLD ORDER?" Answer: "WHAT WE SAY GOES"!, George H. W. Bush, before invasion of Iraq (Persian Gulf War).

Incredible activist

Glad, he's finally in hell with his creator, "Satan".

@@91dodgespiritrt Amen.

As a more enlightened soul, he asked something very simple of us: to stop reaching for war as a response to the " just cause." War hurts everyone -especially the innocent ( 85-90% of casualties are civilians.) Are we still in the caveman mode? We need to find better ways to respond.

So that's where System of a Down got that line...

I was expecting him to be much more knowledgeable. E.G., the founding fathers believe in natural law, which states that men were imbued by God with unalienable rights. How did Howard Zinn, an American Historian, not know this basic fact?

@@laniefeleski7288 Because Howard Zinn was a Communist propagandist who indoctrinated a large portion of American youth during his era of disinformation. A precursor to the 1619 Project insanity, and the Woke Critical Race Theory blather and the people who don't even know what a woman is anymore. Like the new Supreme Court Justice... *God save America from these insane traitors!*

@@tombash4329 many of them did believe it. They wrote about the moral conflict in their journals. Slavery was tradition since mankind's beginning. They were the first ones to end it. So ill informed.

@@tombash4329 All of those are factual statements. lol. Are you okay?

Deity is not the source of governmental power. Deity is the source of the rights that the gov has no business in. The gov caused the problems we face by taking over and obliterating community and family.

@@mrscavayeah7453 Not true. The First Amendment delineates the rights, held by citizens, in which the government has no business - the “THEY shalt nots” of the Bill of Rights, “they” being the government. Popular myth would have it that ours is a government founded upon the myth of judeochristian values - the “judeo” part being there as a token nod - whereas in reality the American government was set up to be secular in nature. Community and family have both got in the condition they’re in because of the control that the strictures of religion - the “THOU shalt nots” - place upon relationships between and among people in those communities and families. The process of “Othering” is totally within the sphere of commands supposedly issued by deity through “holy” writ - of dubious supernatural construct - not the rights, instituted among Men, actually delineated by our founding instruction manual - an actual document.

@@Hollis_has_questions "Not true. The First Amendment delineates the rights, held by citizens, in which the government has no business - the “THEY shalt nots” of the Bill of Rights, “they” being the government." True. "Popular myth would have it that ours is a government founded upon the myth of judeochristian values - the “judeo” part being there as a token nod - whereas in reality the American government was set up to be secular in nature." Still with you. "Community and family have both got in the condition they’re in because of the control that the strictures of religion - the “THOU shalt nots” - place upon relationships between and among people in those communities and families." Here is where you lost me. The control and structures of religion have no bearing on family values. The entire structure of almost all religion is a church. A church is part of a community... not a family. So now you have to prove that Judeo-Christian values caused the problem of the community... which you did NOT do. You just generalized that it happened without stating a reason of why you believe that. "The process of “Othering” is totally within the sphere of commands supposedly issued by deity through “holy” writ - of dubious supernatural construct - not the rights, instituted among Men, actually delineated by our founding instruction manual - an actual document."" Othering is again a community thing which has nothing to do with family... which also has nothing to do with the post of which you are replying. It's just static sounds to confuse the argument that the government did indeed cause the problems by obliterating community and family by trying to state that "othering" is a thing of holy writ... which it was a human condition... not a religious condition.

If the state is the sorce of your rights then the state can take them away. People who emphasize your rights come from God emphasize that they are yours and cannot be taken away.

@@mikimeadows … Except by gods, through the mouths of those who claim to speak for the deities.

Yes he was, wasn’t he!

*tips fedora*

Whats his web site domain i want learn more 🙏

I have to respectfully disagree with you on your point of religion. While there are over 30,000 legal 'religions' in the US, from the questionable Spaghetti Hats to the sublime Hare Krishnas, few can be considered as authentic. Of those perhaps there is but a sliver of genuine participants that actually follow the precepts sincerely as set out by its founder. They do not make their religion look bad. But it does not mean that the religion is poisonous - its those who are ignorant of the precepts the religion holds. We live in dark and confusing timez. Yet we choose to be blind, deaf and dumb to the coldness in our hearts. Religion is not to be blamed, it is the fool who cares not to take an honest look at himself and try to purify his existence, preferring to cast stone on others. Jesus understands this as does any saintly soul - of which there are many more than anyone can ever imagine. Remember that God is the founder of actual religion, and he is all-perfect. But if one doesn't believe in God, Krishna, then what purity can that person ever bring to this world? And if one wants to challenge the reality of God, then speculation that He doesn't exist is all they have. So what such non believer is unwittingly saying is that man is the poison, not religion. KZfaq and indeed the world is full of such characters who fail to see the truth for want of their own opinion. Why is it a surprise to anyone that it has always been mankind that is full of poison and confusion, despite being so capable of love and truthfulness?

@@nickburak7518 no proof of any nagic man in the skye, none. Religion encourages genocide, slavery, supression of women and gay people and sexual mutilation of children. Pure evil shit.

Animator&Fidd1er Europe taught the world racism and civilization.

@@MelaninMagdalene The world knew about racism before. Civilization too, in many places, although Western civilization has distinct advantages over other civilizations, as they demonstrated very effectively through the 19th century.

Jim Luebke Racism is written in to early European philosophy and science.

@@MelaninMagdalene Show me a society that *didn't* have racism. Or slavery. You can't. Then show me a society -- aside from Europeans -- that tried (and succeeded) to get rid of slavery, and is working to get rid of racism. You can't.

@@MelaninMagdalene Also, racism is explicitly condemned by St. Paul. When Western Civilization pays close enough attention to its Christian foundations, there's no better moral and humane system.

Too bad for you Zin was a communist liar and fabricated most everything he said.

@Dodd Rougeau ..... Try doing some actual research before the real history is completely re written or removed. If you don't think America is exceptional, you haven't lived outside the United States.

​@@aisaxonawiat6484 Why is outside the United States the way it is? Much of it has to do with United States foreign policy....you're the one who needs to research friend. By American's standard of exceptionalism Sweeden, Canada, the Netherlands, etc. are far,far, beyond exceptional.

@@elliegonzales8212 ...... Go live in these places if you think they are better....common sense would dictate that. I know you have never lived in a Communist country and you do not understand Communist ideology, what life is like there, or their plans.... past, present, or future. You do not see people fighting to gain entry into any other country on Earth, there is a reason people around the world are willing to risk everything to come to America and there is no more loyal citizen of the United States than those who have lived in a communist country and understand the difference and they are grateful for what it means to live in America. Communists have almost completely destroyed everything America was intended to be, but God will not be mocked. Judgment and correction is happening and these communists will not be in power for long. America has been declared by God to be a land choice above all other lands and whosoever will possess the land will possess it in righteousness or they will be swept off and this is according to the Abrahamic Covenant God made with Abraham and those under the said covenant...... When George Washington took the oath of office, he understood and swore to uphold this covenant on behalf of all people who would possess this land going forward. What you are witnessing now is a retraction of those blessings of that covenant. When there is a retraction of blessings, it happens in reverse order in which the blessings were given; the overwhelming majority of people living in America today are completely unaware of this covenant and the consequences for breaking that covenant. Communism has been in the United States now for over 100 years and their infrastructure is strong and deep and permeates all levels of government, all parties, and all factions of society ….. Especially within the media. These same people who have commandeered the government are in control of all governments around the world now and they are in the process of establishing a global communist centralized one world government as we speak. America is ripening for destruction, but that destruction will be poured out upon all nations prior to the return of Christ. There is much more to it than what I have mentioned here, but it is not reasonable to be able to cover all details in a KZfaq post.

@Dodd Rougeau..... I am in agreement with what you say here, that was a good post.

AGREE with you!

I admire his delivery style, which bears a resemblance to a combination of Rodney Dangerfield, Carl Sagan, Jordan Peterson, and Steve Jobs. It's a sardonic, piercing, yet some how gentle way of telling a critical story with a straight face, and you wonder if he'll make it through the talk due to his hesitation, but just when you think he won't, he comes up with the funniest and ironic connections and analogies, which are part and parcel of any work of art - tension and release. With that said, we are still the greatest country in the world!

General Winthrop led a group of Puritans and Pilgrim Fathers who wished to escape persecution in the UK. In the UK. The Anglican Church ruled and it insisted Gods representative on Planet Earth was the King or Queen of England. The Church was debauched and immoral and excessively taxed everybody to pay for their lifestyle. General Winthrop rejected this. Equally objectionable was The Catholic Church which taught Papal Infallibility and the final and absolute authority of the Pope in Rome. Greetings from UK.

What was Cotton Mathers about? The gospel of divine enlightenment? Something like it ..found in wikipedia 'secularism is the realization, of the Kingdom of God on Earth' .. Whoa ...

The idiots who mention "bone spurs" are also the same idiots who supposedly abhor war. They can't can't have it both ways. But at least they can always try. HA!

this globalist cares nothing about truth

@@Patriot11111 Your state is ruled by corporate globalists. Or do you call them "job creators"?

He would strongly disagree. According to him, he did not drop bombs on nazis but on German civilians. He participated in the fire bombing of Dresden. Zinn was a truly great man though. Read his work. Its beautiful and devastating

not a myth, they proof it day after day. Not only Canada but ALL civilized countries

@@mc-lb9dk yep

There’s like 33 developed countries and all but the US and maybe one more who doesn’t have medical for their citizens. Israel has medical, and college, plus state funded abortion (no one says anything about that). We gave them over $9 billion from January of last year to January of this year. We can give 100’s of billions to corporations, some failing because of bad business practices, and a tax cut down to 21% for the wealthy and corporations. There was almost 100 companies who had a 0% tax rate or below in 2020. They’re cutting all the social programs and would love to cut Social Security or do away with it all together. Next we have a military budget as much as the next 10 countries, we’re also $21 trillion in debt and our Federal Reserve is printing trillions. So with all this, it’s not a myth.

Healthcare in the US is for profit not a human right. Greed in my country is on steroids. It will be our downfall. Brought down by 1% of some greedy elites.

@@Cookie-ri9pz US = human greed. not only healthcare. the latter is just internal greed. The global greed of the usa is way bigger.

Dunce Scotus + Much better than the tripe you've spewed here.

I didn’t find Vonnegut (and especially S5) to be softened in anyway. Vonnegut showed how empty and meaningless concepts like patriotism and justice really are.

@@haroldfloyd5518 Fair enough, but sublimated by dark atheistic humor a la Mark Twain. Hopeless humor. Zinn, as a Jew, at least tried to find some ethical conclusions, and did a darn good job with "The People's History of the United States" in tracing the untold history of the losers. I'm a vet too, so I'm sympathetic. But I've seen the faithfulness of Jesus Christ, so I'm coming from what I think is a far superior perspective, the Christian one. But that's how I see it. It's not as though all of this war and stuff isn't foretold. Patriotism, not meaningless, only idolatrous. Justice, not meaningless, only hypocritical. Meaningless? Nothing that I can think of.

Thankyou scoutus, for the information. Very worthwhile.

@@philgwellington6036 Thank YOU for that thank you.

It is Communist and anti-American.

If you want a one sided approach to history you're in luck.

It's a fraud. He filled it with fabricated bullshit designed to make people hate this country, because he was a communist.

@@CatAtomic99 You got that right, bro

@@rillikinmcspliffelkinney3811 it's a necessary side--and missing in too many places.

News flash, "God" doesn't talk to anyone.

Given the power that has been attained by the Christian Right in the US they would be hard pressed to find anyone bigger to fight

including the sounds spouted by this prolific atonal composer of Operas containing disharmonious contrapuntal dissonance and tasteless staging.

@@boazklachkin4177 Cap'n Turbot vibes,..

He said that because he knows he was lying.

Look no further than Silicon Valley.

Indeed the truth about its connection to Jeffery Epstein's island, and all of it's staffs connections to it. Well done and good form.

@@martinarreguy7789 No gfalAPP pop Tv No puedo hacer la vida al Me

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Hermano, no le intiendo? What are you saying?

You need to actually go and study history. This human is intellectual fraud.

@@muzakaz From your dumb comment it is obvious that you are either super ignorant, or you depend or work for the Establishment, the Ind/Military Complex, or the Intelligence Services. Which one is it?

Ha! This guy is deluded and acts like he hasnt read much history. He's sick. He's like an abusive husband always putting down the wife. You listen to him telling how pathetic you are and drink it in, you need counseling for your self esteem

global cooling? global warming? climate change? now climate chaos? what hoax is next?

@@SEAQUEST-R good hope it stays there

Right on the money about New Zealanders they have about as much idea as alot of Trump / Biden supporters or half the population of America. I am one by the way been one for 60 years. "I've found the lack of honesty of the population of a place is primarily caused by a great insecurity and inferiority complex." We may separate here i feel. You could just as easily say "I've found the lack of honesty of the population of a place is primarily caused by............ ignorant blind flag waving patriotism.

My son read Howard Zinn book and is a flaming atheist...

I just ordered and will be arriving in 2 days, but I did notice a lot of people harshly criticizing the book....What comes to mind is "Why do they get mad?" Why isnt this taught in school ? Maybe they fear a REVOLUTION thats why

@@Acardona97 Why? Liars and deniers cannot abide by the truth. They only allow popular dogma to be taught in schools. People who are kept ignorant and afraid are so much easier to manipulate.

@@franrushie1383 God isn't real so he's just accepting reality as apposed to believing a work of fiction is history.

People's History was, without any doubt, the worst piece of garbage I’ve ever read. Halfway through, I realize there were no citations. I kept looking for truth in that book until the end, yet nowhere was it to be found. If a man cannot cite his sources, his writing is fantasy. We hold that to be true in all endeavors except history? HA! How he accumulated sufficient power to corrupt the minds of so many I will never know. It is discouraging to think the crap is seen in any way, shape or form, as truth.

Just like it will for the US Empire.

@@gfarrell80 It took a couple of world wars and complete domestic economic devastation to get the British down. If the wars get that bad these days, I'm not hopeful that the rest of the world will be in any shape to react, either to celebrate or mourn.

Ridicule ends all leaders, and all empires. The moment that pinpoints the fall of the British Empire can be pinpointed to the Suez Canal Crisis in 1956. London assumed Washington would back them for the sake of their Israeli alliance and to expose the muslim brotherhood nationalisation of the main strategic asset of the Empire (The Suez Canal). This islamic "attack" was a sort of English 9/11, and it was at the height of the Cold War with the Soviets. From this point forward, The Empire went into military and economic decline, eagerly assisted at every opportunity by a cohort of marxist infiltraitors in The House Of Commons and elsewhere through the Empire itself. The playbook was so successful marxists in the USA made similar infiltration over the following decades and this peaked in 2008 with the election of Obama...

@@abovethefog1016 British Empire falls in 1956? That is pretty optimistic. The torch of empire IMHO was handed off from the British to the Americans in 1918. Cracks were showing in the British Empire well before 1956. Heck, India went independent in 1947.

@@abovethefog1016 There was a Roman senator, whose name escapes me at the moment, who made a name for himself making sarcastic speeches at one or other of the Julian line of emperors, after it became illegal to directly criticize the Princeps. He was executed. For the life of me, I can't remember his name.

Brits were “forced” to? They modernized the world not once did he mention US being Israel’s proxy attack dog used and abused.

As if it is totally impossible to have both? or more for that matter.

@@breadfan1071 we don't need supermarkets that big in England. It would be a waste of space; there just aren't enough people in the country.

Yes, he is.

Yes, he copied Nazi anti-American war propaganda word for word, its down right plagiarism, there's no point that Zinn makes that the Nazis didn't accuse America of, there's nothing even original with Zinn. Luce's American century, the treatment of the indians, american exceptionalism, the founding fathers were evil aggressive war mongers wanting to take over the world, all to be found in anti-american nazi propaganda in the 1940s.

@@officeofpeaceinformation5094 You know when propaganda is the most effective , when it's TRUE... The Nazi might have used the same TRUE History, just like Russia or Iran telling you WHO is the AGGRESSOR, the one having military base all around your country ? or the one protecting its territory and airspace ?

@@moestietabarnak If you dont think that Hitler was the aggressor in WWII you should learn history, read the 1920 NSDAP party program (Lebensraum in the east), Mein Kampf, Hitlers 1928 2nd book (Lebensraum in the east), They invaded the Sudentanland, Poland, France, started the battle of Britain by the first bomb attack on Coventry, attacked the Soviet Union 1941, declared war in the US. But the US was the aggressor according to you and all the anti-american nazi propaganda then and the neo-nazi propaganda now. If you dont self identify as a neo-nazi, you might just as well. I am not name calling, anti-americanism is a central part of the ideology.

@@moestietabarnak Propaganda is never true, if it were, it wouldn't be propaganda. "When a circle is a square" lol

@@officeofpeaceinformation5094 prop•a•gan•da prŏp″ə-găn′də► n. The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause. n. Material disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a doctrine or cause. n. A committee of cardinals (Congregation de Propaganda Fide, ‘for propagating the faith’) which has the supervision of foreign missions in the Roman Catholic Church. NOTHING in there suggest anything about TRUE or FALSE, RIGTH or WRONG... It's giving arguments for your cause, can be anything, true or false. But we all know it's easier to pass a LIE in the middle of many truth.

Genius 🤣

Severely underrated comment

😂 LOL,Bravo!

Grow up.

You're second behind the UK for number of foreign countries you've ruined.

@@wowrude That is another way the USA is exceptional which the speaker in the video did not mention. He gave a narrow definition of what he understands by exceptional, which I summarize as "morally superior". The USA is definitely not morally superior, as attested by the damage done. Confessions of an Economic Hit Man is an interesting read on this topic. Besides government actions, many American individuals and companies have caused damage, and many American individuals and companies have done good - ditto foreigners in relation to the USA.

Typical human arrogance that transcends all time. It will never end. The known, the unknown, and the unknowable

Moron, please understand American History. The Mexicans wanted the US to help it fight for its independence against Spain. Many of them wanted to join the US. In fact, the Mexican government actually paid Americans to settle in the territory now known as Texas - south of the Rio Grande. .THE LAND WASN'T STOLEN AT ALL.

Zinn is a "fake news" spreading lying bastard - just like the rest of his traitorous tribe of greedy perverts.

You’re right. We should give it back to the Conquistadors to whom it rightfully belongs.

@@91dodgespiritrt Your comment is ridiculous and ahistorical.

yes !!!

@@bagelbomber same neighborhood or something? It sounds like an accent

He reminds me of Alan Alda.

That's crazy how similar the speaking patterns are

It's a very ordinary voice, actually.

Good observation. It all seems a bit lukewarm. Sloppy introduction, few people in attendance, etc. But then I guess most MIT students intent to join the rich and powerful, not oppose them.

Bizarre, and very unprofessional, to even address an audience that way. (They may be nervous)

It's the way of a PERVERT.