well, fossil companies want to push this so you can't cut them off the chain. EVs are no good to fossil producers neither do they have engine maintenance, so a lot of companies are still hell bent to push hydrogen.

But it does not kill a planet. Make sure you get that

@@vladimirsimeunovic4514 Take into account how it's being produced right now. Think about it before you talk

@@Ban1nos i just did. That's why you are upset right now

Fueling up will be shown in the Review video next week.

The should have called it Faxe .. 😄

Double

@@wolfgangpreier9160 You get around 800 klm per tank. 5 kilos. In Australia they did 1300 klm with 12% tank left. So could do around 1500 klm. That's ok an 30c day

I've been in a Mirai. Terrible car, terrible packaging. Reverse TARDIS, if you know what I mean. If that's the future, then people there have forgotten how to build cars with folding rear seats and useable trunks.

@@krugerdave Mirai 1 or 2

@@krugerdave Mirai 2 is really a luxury sedan for the USA. Would be nice if they could make a Toyota RAV 4 hydrogen.

I like buttons! My ideal interior looks like a 1970's airliner cockpit 😀

@@krugerdave I prefer star trek, computer! take me to the shops! affirmative!

I did in the livestream.

E-Niro does not get 470km of range at 130 km/h with heat on!

10 euro per 100km at min.

@@wolfgangpreier9160 there's no "liter" for H2. It's sold by kg.

FCEV and PHEV both are worthless to the transition. FCEV cause the H2 is mainly gas produced. PHEV cause most owners won't make 1:55 consumption in order to meet an EV on energy mix emissions.

Everything will go fuel cell or hydrogen gas engines. The problem with batteries is they use around 10 rare earth materials to be made, cobalt is almost gone now only 3 more years on the mine

@@RedBatteryHead Hydrogen is in air. Toyota is doing R&D to get hydrogen out of the air and use it

Also get more range with hydrogen than batteries and much less weight. That's why all the transportation industry is going fuel cell tech

@@zagan1 ha! Which automakers? They're abandoning hydrogen in droves, or at most keeping programs running at a low level so they don't lose the knowledge. Also: Where is there hydrogen in the air? Only in the form of pollution and humidity, but then why not just make it from water? And cobalt gone in 3 years? Wow, you must have way better information than all of the companies investing billions into cobalt based batteries and cobalt mines. We'd better warn them! 🤦 As for hydrogen gas engines: congratulations, you've just combined the most expensive fuel with the least efficient engine 👏👏👏 Tell you what, make a note of this conversation and get back to me in 20 years. I guarantee that you will own an EV before you own a hydrogen car of any type. And then you will continue to own EVs because they're cheaper, simpler, more efficient, more reliable and just easier to live with. Hydrogen will be around, but extremely rare for cars.

That’s normal for high pressure gassed tanks. I drove on LPG for years, 80% fill on the tank is a normal safety feature. It’s the same with scuba cylinders, my scuba air cylinders are rated to 232bar of pressure but safety certicate tested to over 300 bar. The reason is that gas heats up and expands during fill process. Once it’s sat and cools it contracts. So it you tried to fill 100% you’re leaving no expansion room for the gas to expand during the filling process.

@@stevemulroy1417 ok, makes sense, but are they quoting the range based on a 100% fill that's almost impossible to achieve IRL?

does it matter if you refuel on return or continue driving afterwards?

@@krugerdave I can't comment on the figure here but I expect this is the WLTP.. when I was driving an LPG powered car, I knew how many km I would get from a filled tank (80%) and I knew how many km I got from each liter of gas (LPG is measured in liters, hydrogen in kg.. go figure). Same for a scuba cylinder.. when its filled the guage says 240 bar.. but the next day, that will have dropped to 220 - 225bar.. based on depth etc.. I know how long I can dive for.

This is a strange comment. I drive the Nexo 2 years now. Alarm for over pressure starts at at 104% (can be find in the manual). Normally by refueling you got appr 98-101%. H2 technique is complete different with liquid gasses like LPG. The range mentioned in this review is correct in winter and winter tyres and higher velocity driving in Germany. In summer range is much better. In the Netherlands (speed limit most of the time 100 km/h) then is 0,9 kg/ 100 kg. My last long trip through Germany to Italy, average was 1,4 kg / 100 km (autumn, nice wetter)

Not anymore, it was a problem once.

@@BatteryLife That is good but hydrogen is too expensive, about 15 euro /100 km seems not reasonable consumption at all. Actually the range is comparable to Tesla M3, also considering the high price of the car, i think hydrogen cars are far from mass production.

I am curious.

The future looks expensive and slow :D :D I will stick with my ID.3 1st Edition :)

Hydrogen is like fusion: it's the future, and it always will be 😂

With this range, at these temperatures, it seems so. And if the hydrogen is made by surplus electricity on windy days and sunny days (which currently cannot be stored) then it is win-win, and we get a massive price drop..... if there are more hydrogen cars. And you can increase the range, just by adding more tank space. Increasing the range on an electric car will cost you gazillions.

However, we just need better and cheaper battery tech, and the trend goes away from Hydrogen, as everyones cars suddenely become decentralised electric storage...

@@jellyd4889 for cars, batteries will be the more economical solution for the foreseeable future, because it doesn't cost gazillions to make an EV that goes far enough. The idea of making hydrogen out of surplus power is a nice one, until you're the one paying for the electrolyzer. That tech is expensive; anyone paying for that is going to want to have it fully utilized round the clock!