I can't believe this happened to me again! SO FRUSTRATED!!!!!!!

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JayzTwoCents

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19 күн бұрын

It happened to me again! I don't know what it's going to take to stop this from happening but it is really getting on my nerves.
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@rharbarenko
@rharbarenko 17 күн бұрын
The more I watch Jay the more impressed I am with his water cooling and the Less I ever want to do any kind of water cooling.
@PhilJohn1980
@PhilJohn1980 17 күн бұрын
To be fair, I've watercooled with clear fluid, and ZMT flexible black tubing and have zero issues. It looks industrial though rather than the pretty hard lined builds Jay does.
@AnonymousUser-ww6ns
@AnonymousUser-ww6ns 16 күн бұрын
I hate water cooling and it is overrated. Stick with Air cooling or sealed AIO
@jemborg
@jemborg 15 күн бұрын
​@@AnonymousUser-ww6ns I'm with you. 👍
@K31TH3R
@K31TH3R 14 күн бұрын
I have ran water for 20 years. I have always ran soft tubing and Valvoline Zerex at a 10/90 ratio to distilled water. I'm still running the same Laing D5 Vario pump and Swiftech MCR-220 radiator in my current PC that I bought in 2004 to build my first loop. I have never had any of the problems Jay has, and I have to assume he continues to use garbage pre-mixed PC coolants despite all the problems solely for views and controversy in the comments. If you use automotive anti-freeze and EPDM based soft tubing, your loop will last indefinitely, and you can feel free to push maintenance periods out to ~5 years, or just whenever you do upgrades or a new build.
@caffeinesippingman
@caffeinesippingman 12 күн бұрын
I know, I just watched Jay with the kit, and he said let me know if this makes you more or less likely to do water cooling. There are always videos like this to remind me of the answer. To be clear, because that is one of the top 20 most beautiful PCs I have ever seen, the answer is still no. But man I thought about it at 13:56.
@BrunodeSouzaLino
@BrunodeSouzaLino 18 күн бұрын
Always remember Ben Heck's lesson #1: Design things which can be easily taken apart later.
@TheOfficialFloridaMan
@TheOfficialFloridaMan 18 күн бұрын
That’s the main reason I got rid of my Parvum case, it’s a pain in the ass to do any type of maintenance without having to fully disassemble. My jonsplus i100 pro is much easier to work on
@def-po8tu
@def-po8tu 18 күн бұрын
​@TheOfficialFloridaMan that's why I got the haf700, I love working in this case. Everything is really easy to access
@a.x.w
@a.x.w 18 күн бұрын
Yeah, you can either build a show piece or build for maintainability. I just use black soft tubes and clear, colourless fluid. Put a fill port at the highest point and a drain port at the lowest and you're golden. RBG isn't a headache either because there isn't any.
@TonyM-zi9rq
@TonyM-zi9rq 18 күн бұрын
That's the reason I'll never have a custom loop water cooling setup again. Had one in the mid 2000's and it was a royal pain to deal with if you had to take it apart. Not worth it at all.
@a.x.w
@a.x.w 18 күн бұрын
@@TonyM-zi9rq They can be quite easy to work on if you design for maintainability. Add fill and drain ports, add some slack to the soft tubes so you can move components around and avoid coloured fluids. Obviously, it's never going to be as easy as air cooling but on the flipside, my system is barely audible under full load.
@dangingerich2559
@dangingerich2559 18 күн бұрын
Jay's experiences with opaque fluids are EXACTLY why I only use clear coolant.
@DGneoseeker1
@DGneoseeker1 18 күн бұрын
I would hesitate to admit to having "experiences with opaque fluids".
@Dexx1s
@Dexx1s 17 күн бұрын
The look of them is never worth the maintenance.
@ledoynier3694
@ledoynier3694 17 күн бұрын
@@Dexx1s and they are impossible to completely flush. clear coolant after that will always have a slight haze to it unless you replace all parts, including fittings.
@Dexx1s
@Dexx1s 17 күн бұрын
@@ledoynier3694 and they're more expensive than distilled + biocide. I'm more of a black tube guy so I can't even see the fluid anyway.
@dangingerich2559
@dangingerich2559 17 күн бұрын
@@ledoynier3694 Same with dyed/colored coolants. I tried out red for a little while, and it stained my carpet. Trying to flush it out of the loop was painful. After 10 flushes with just distilled water, I just left it slightly tinged red for several more changes, until I finally had to change all my blocks out for new hardware. Now it's clear again, but the only things left of the old loop are some old fittings.
@SalemTechsperts
@SalemTechsperts 18 күн бұрын
And I got roasted for having the ugliest PC in the world that I can take apart in a matter of seconds. I feel like there's a middle ground between your build and mine for people that still have some sanity left 😅 Awesome video as always!
@MandoArtsudios
@MandoArtsudios 15 күн бұрын
No way, the Greatest Technician that ever lived
@81formann
@81formann 15 күн бұрын
When it comes from people who spends more time making their tools look like a kids toy than they do using it, its a compliment. A PC is a tool, and what makes a good tool, is everything but looks. Every single dollar and every minute spent on RGB, parts with custom paint job, chrome finish and what not, could have gone towards improving reliability, performance, maintenance free operation, memory compatibility and QC of bios and drivers. Time spent by end user could have been spent on improving and/or acquiring new skills. Be it gaming, engineering or general life skills. In short: They would have been smarter and they would have had a faster, more more reliable PC. @Jay: Shame on you for encouraging the bright but easily influenced young people to this.. WOMBAT.
@SilentNoSeven
@SilentNoSeven 18 күн бұрын
RGB is a double edged sword for me. The way it looks, when it works properly is glorious. On the wiring and software side of things, lies the bane of my existence, an otherworldy hellscape. I managed to get my rgb setup to work with one software only and that is a bliss. Once you start mixing several rgb eco systems you are in for a world of hurt and desperation.
@Xenoray1
@Xenoray1 18 күн бұрын
SignalRGB saved me, i dont need to have anything bloatware related to have installed anymore (asus, logitech, gskill crap), all of them just sync up nicely even 12volt rgb together with the 5volt argb makes good effects like waves of blue and red i have set up (ton of customs even reacting to ingame stuff), but only after windows sets up, until then its going rainbow puke (which can be turned off bios site but i like it^^) but i have half of the rgb jay have, so im thankfull
@sabermajora408
@sabermajora408 18 күн бұрын
Ive always had rgb die or bug out, like even on the gpu. Now I just keep everything off and use noctuas
@konrad1428
@konrad1428 18 күн бұрын
I don't even see my pc from my desk so there's no rgb in it whatsoever :)
@stephenhood2948
@stephenhood2948 18 күн бұрын
@@Xenoray1 I've tried Open, Signal, MSI Mystic Light, ICue, I just cannot get one app to control all my RGB. I have the Montech King 95 Pro case, and the case fan lights are the real problem ones. Plus my Galax 4070 has to have its own app to work the RGB. I would really like to get one program to control these lights. I think it may be the Montech case fan hub, I was thinking of trying some other hub. I did get some sort of message when trying to use the Signal RGB, something about a channel wasn't recognized?? I went to their website and tried their troubleshooting tips, still nothing. This case looks amazing, its just too much work to sync the RGB like this. The 4070 does have an RGB output connecter, I can see if it came with the plug and wire the hub up from there, but then Id have another wire running out of my GPU. OP is right, RGB can be very frustrating.
@daviddesrosiers1946
@daviddesrosiers1946 17 күн бұрын
The industry needs to get their excrement together and agree on a unified standard for RGB device communication and interface. A USB type standard, if you will.
@joolsstoo3085
@joolsstoo3085 18 күн бұрын
The channel known for water cooling has always done a great job in making me feel good about my choice to never water cool my pc.
@rockchalkv
@rockchalkv 17 күн бұрын
Signed, the Air Cool Gang
@wll1130
@wll1130 17 күн бұрын
Yea, it's such a pain in the ass. I fail to see why anyone who doesn't actually need it would want to deal with all of that bs.
@Zasaramel
@Zasaramel 17 күн бұрын
Exactly this.
@connor040606
@connor040606 17 күн бұрын
Maybe people will realize that Jay really does not know a damn thing.
@codemang87
@codemang87 17 күн бұрын
​@@wll1130 it's an art. It's not about need.
@ramariomartin8707
@ramariomartin8707 18 күн бұрын
Phil's laugh in the background ALWAYS kills me😂
@davekachel
@davekachel 17 күн бұрын
A testament on how the hassle is not worth water cooling.
@TheOfficialFloridaMan
@TheOfficialFloridaMan 18 күн бұрын
Seeing all those fan cables makes me even more grateful for how simple Lian Li makes fan management with the link together system
@Maradiaga23
@Maradiaga23 18 күн бұрын
I have 3 brands of fans in my system, thankfully they are all either Lian Li or have very short cables designed for daisy chainning. That makes cable management that much easier and neater compared to my older systems where each damned fan had 2 long calbes coming off of it.
@peterpeter5666
@peterpeter5666 17 күн бұрын
10 lian li fans in my system 1 controller and software that actually works
@daviddesrosiers1946
@daviddesrosiers1946 17 күн бұрын
I'm glad I went with Lian Li also. My rig is riddled with Lian Li/EK. I have their collab distro plate in an o-11 D-Evo.
@daviddesrosiers1946
@daviddesrosiers1946 17 күн бұрын
@@peterpeter5666 I had ten when I was running 12th gen i9 and an AIO. I of course went insane, got a 14th gen i9, threw a mortgage payment at EK and now I'm running six fans.
@peterpeter5666
@peterpeter5666 17 күн бұрын
@@daviddesrosiers1946 same case no distro. was too expensive and difficult to get one in canada
@stoddern
@stoddern 18 күн бұрын
Jay, put some heat shrink tubbing on the brush fleck shaft, this will protect the threads of the fittings hole and the anodizing when cleaning things, I've used similar brush styles and the spring coil will wear a groove into soft aluminum and plastics, all now prevented for $1 worth of heat shrink tube
@davidhines7592
@davidhines7592 18 күн бұрын
i must say i worried seeing that and hearing the sawing noise.
@billy5688
@billy5688 18 күн бұрын
This applies to us, but realistically to content creators, it doesn't matter. He'll replace it before that happens
@omgninja66
@omgninja66 17 күн бұрын
Be sooo nice to be there and actually learn more. I've been into pcs for about 10 months and your channel was one of the 1st i came across and then many others. Now I can build one from ground up. Watch..seen.asked and researched. I built one for a friend and just saying thank you Jay for all your content. Really Good stuff. I don't subscribe normally but to yours, I did
@cjbtlr
@cjbtlr 17 күн бұрын
Not nearly enough "clean up" videos when it comes to hard line custom cooling - thank you for making this. There's so much content for making one - not much about upkeeping them.
@RubyRoks
@RubyRoks 18 күн бұрын
At this point, i'm surprised you haven't just sourced frosted tubes and reservoirs. It'd give you a similar look with just water and (optionally) dye.
@jttech44
@jttech44 18 күн бұрын
Not too hard to frost them yourself.
@user-neo71665
@user-neo71665 18 күн бұрын
Scotchbright pad and a few minutes of elbow grease and everything he already has can be frosted.
@jarls5890
@jarls5890 18 күн бұрын
With just water you will have growth in no time. Another issue would be galvanic corrosion. No matter how pure that water is - there will be spores in the air that is in the system prior to fill. And if you have a mix of metals - aluminium, copper and steel - it will eat through through the aluminium in no time (the least noble of the metals mentioned) Back in the day (approx 2004) when I built my first and only custom waterloop you could not buy most of the stuff you can buy for this purpose today. We used engine coolant mixed with de-mineralized water. This contains mostly propylene glycol - which prevents growth and galvanic corrosion. BUT - water is the best carrier of heat (unless you can source some heavy water) - so you want to find the ideal mix between water and the coolant.
@kratakiis
@kratakiis 18 күн бұрын
@@jarls5890thats why they put biocide in the water…
@-Skratch-
@-Skratch- 18 күн бұрын
Frost looking tubes, Corsair has and I believe he is using. The reservoir tube is glass. He would have to go acrylic and scotchbright to achieve the same effect on the res.
@wasd____
@wasd____ 17 күн бұрын
This is why I don't bother water cooling anything anymore. Water cooling is really just air cooling with extra steps (because the heat ultimately has to go into the air for rejection to the ambient environment) and, frustratingly, a lot of extra stupid and extra expensive busywork. And with air coolers being as well-designed and having as much thermal capacity as they do these days, the differences are mostly down to being marginal. Really it's a no-brainer.
@spongesurf
@spongesurf 16 күн бұрын
I notice a huge difference with noise. And less ambient heat. No way I'm going back to air cooling.
@wasd____
@wasd____ 16 күн бұрын
@@spongesurf The placebo effect (a very real thing) notwithstanding, it's literally not possible you'd objectively have less ambient heat either way. The CPU/GPU don't know or care what you're cooling them with, they produce the same heat load either way so it's the same amount of heat that ultimately has to be rejected out of your system to the ambient environment. Less noise? Maybe, but noise is always an "it depends" thing and at the end of the day you're the one in control of your fan speeds so noise is really on you and your preferences in balancing noise vs. temperature.
@spongesurf
@spongesurf 16 күн бұрын
@@wasd____ A LOT less noise. That was my biggest grief. But ambient temps as well. Water reacts differently to temp fluctuations. Look it up. Been aircooled all my pc gaming life. Once I switched to full water loop it is no comparison. Same case similar builds in same game room with same AC temps.
@TheCloudhopper
@TheCloudhopper 16 күн бұрын
@@spongesurf It's a lot less noise... until the moment the pump develops a rattle. Someting that i learned NZXT Kraken AIOs are VERY prone to do. Generally the pumps are the achilles heel of any loop. If you take a dual to air cooler with dual 140mm fans in push pull, like the Noctua NH-15D or similar ones from other manufacturers, you won't hear all that much and if one fan fails, the cooling will still be ok-ish until your replacement fan arrives.
@DocOrtmeyer
@DocOrtmeyer 15 күн бұрын
I copied jays whole build in 2017, and I’m going back to air for my next build. I don’t want to worry about a possible leak, despite NEVER having had one. Just the idea, is too much for me
@fatjaysgarage
@fatjaysgarage 16 күн бұрын
Jay! Long time fan. I hope you are taking care of your health bro
@allanhome
@allanhome 17 күн бұрын
Jay It's Great To See That Legend Back On Screen !!!
@zahndy
@zahndy 17 күн бұрын
I hate how the RGB/ARGB connectors are STILL a problem. They should not be reversible or just fall out because they have no latch or ridge to secure or hold them together.
@meneldil7604
@meneldil7604 15 күн бұрын
thirmaltake made latches for them and thay come with there fames
@IlIllllIIlIllIlllIIIII
@IlIllllIIlIllIlllIIIII 18 күн бұрын
When 1 ball is working better than the other one
@RyanFennec
@RyanFennec 18 күн бұрын
💯
@douglasmclellan6702
@douglasmclellan6702 18 күн бұрын
👌
@fajaradi1223
@fajaradi1223 18 күн бұрын
Yeah, now I know why you kinda leaning left a bit when you're standing or walking.
@leonidastankiangaming
@leonidastankiangaming 18 күн бұрын
💀
@Butterfingers1989
@Butterfingers1989 17 күн бұрын
Maybe you should find out how balls work...
@_H0P3_
@_H0P3_ 17 күн бұрын
Thanks for this. Just made my strong feelings against custom loops even stronger. I really-really don't feel the need to screw myself in every orifice by making such a loop ever.
@Loki_Firegod
@Loki_Firegod 16 күн бұрын
I always love your "issue fixing" videos, because whereas you give great advice in all your videos (well, almost all), these are the ones where I learn the most. I've not built a watercooled system yet, but next one may be first I try - so before I start buying parts, I'm very happy for all input I can find on what to avoid, what to look out for and - should anything come up - how to fix it easily and quickly. The first thing I learn from this is: Make all parts easy to access and, ideally, easy to get out and/or replace. The second: Don't use ASUS (which I've already decided after I finished - more or less - my current system. Had random system lockups for almost a year until finally some firmware update fixed that, and it was 100% ASUS Armory Crate that caused the problems (when I kicked that, the freezes stopped, when I re-installed it, they were back). Another thing I'm learning is that frosted liquid looks cool, but also can cause problems, so for my first wc build I'll propably stick to clear.
@mariopawlik9790
@mariopawlik9790 17 күн бұрын
Jay, I've had this happen to me a few times as well. What I believe the issue is, is that EKs CPU water blocks have their fins very close together, so close in fact that particulate get stuck between the fins. I have an Barrowch CPU block (free hand-me-down) and it has been serving me fine. The fins on that block are farther apart than EKs, and I've realized real quick that I had no more 'fallout' over time. This is also why only your CPU loop is affected, the GPU fins are also much farther apart and allow all the particulates to flow freely between them.
@S2Hgaming
@S2Hgaming 18 күн бұрын
Same happened to me, this EKWB mystig fog shit fogged my whole system... Switched to DP Ultra - best move I've done tbh
@Simon_Denmark
@Simon_Denmark 18 күн бұрын
DP Ultra is good but you can't flush it down the drain because of ethylene glycol. I've been using XSPC's Pure clear for about 2 years now which you can dispose normally and I've been happy with it.
@webcodr
@webcodr 18 күн бұрын
Yeah, DP Ultra is probably the best fluid you can buy. I've had it in my loop for years together with EPDM rubber tubing from EK (I'll give them that, ZMT tubing is a really good product) and Watercool. It's not fancy, but it makes no trouble and therefore is absolutely reliable. Even after years, the blocks were clean like new ones. But I had my fair share of trouble with other fluids and tubing before I switched to DP Ultra.
@shinaikouka
@shinaikouka 17 күн бұрын
I tried CryoFuel Mystic Fog once and only once. I ended up going back to just distilled water with biocide and anti-corrosion (added again every 3-or-so months). Sadly, I had a feeling that Jay might've been using it when I saw the loop, and I cringed a bit once he mentioned it.
@stevel105
@stevel105 17 күн бұрын
Poor Jay, things just don't want to work out for him sometimes. Don't worry, it will get better.
@phero6933
@phero6933 17 күн бұрын
This video was great in solidifying my mentality of only air cooling my builds.
@Riddler290
@Riddler290 18 күн бұрын
Love your videos jay.
@BrettWms
@BrettWms 18 күн бұрын
There was a post from EK on their mystic fog and it separating, they advised to NOT flush with distilled water as it messes with balance. They advise to flush with just clear cryo fuel once or twice after distilled water
@OMGitsathing
@OMGitsathing 17 күн бұрын
not a bad idea to push more fluid sales lol
@NEWSNINJA3
@NEWSNINJA3 17 күн бұрын
I’m really glad you made this video. I’m planning a pc build and wanted all white rgb. Something that slipped my mind that you mentioned is white uses all the rgb colors so that draws more power. That is something I never considered and will definitely make sure I don’t run into rgb overload.
@jakovkid07
@jakovkid07 16 күн бұрын
So as awesome as it all is and amazing as it all looks. Jay has convinced me never to do custom loops.
@cp6565
@cp6565 18 күн бұрын
I'm glad I designed my system without RGB so I don't have to deal this these problems
@thetrainshop
@thetrainshop 18 күн бұрын
Change the fluid out completely Jay, the CUMputer needs a different color
@tigerzero5216
@tigerzero5216 15 күн бұрын
4:16 I have to LMAO. That sound reminds me so much of the rooter tool I used to clean out my bathroom sink pipe.
@dvazquez2016
@dvazquez2016 16 күн бұрын
Bro! Its been like 5 years since I been here. Rockin that gamer body ma boi...
@fermitupoupon1754
@fermitupoupon1754 18 күн бұрын
Clearly what this build needs is a couple AquaComputer Farbwerk 360s.
@brandonhoffman4712
@brandonhoffman4712 17 күн бұрын
And some boba!
@NNextremNN
@NNextremNN 18 күн бұрын
You recently asked why not more people try custom water cooling. Well that's another reason. There's so much maintenance and points of failure.
@BobBobson
@BobBobson 18 күн бұрын
The maintenance isn't nearly as bad if you stick to distilled water with biocide. Opaque fluid falling out is a known issue, and isn't recommended to run long term.
@0Blueaura
@0Blueaura 18 күн бұрын
@@BobBobson there is near no issue in simply swapping a broken fan from a heatsink that will never fail you
@ledoynier3694
@ledoynier3694 17 күн бұрын
Watercooling is way less maintenance than aircooling. a coolant change per year, 5 minutes job if you didn't skimp on a drain port. Radiators are easier to dust too and don't clog as fast. But.. if you use opaque coolants, absolutely, it's a nightmare.. coolant change = take the whole loop apart, brush waterblocks, brush fittings, brush reservoir, take pump apart to clean the ceramic bearing and maybe replace it because those damn particles erode the rotor.. It's aircooling cleanup with watercooling costs.
@garetht677
@garetht677 17 күн бұрын
stick with any clear with bio or a clear pre mix and you'll be fine. As to building one out...just give enough flex, avoid hard line...looks pretty but a total effing nightmare with maint. I have quick disconnects at key points around my system too, so I can essentially separate my loop into 3 parts, the radiator, pump and gpu/cpu. I have solid black tubing 11/16 and acatel blocks cause I don't care what the fluid looks like anymore, once upon a time I cared but now I don't, it needs to function and be pretty much idiot proof.
@NNextremNN
@NNextremNN 17 күн бұрын
@@ledoynier3694 There are billions of aircooling systems running for years without any maintenance. Just think of all the office PCs that no one takes care of. Water cooling is certainly not less maintenance than air cooling. Just look at this channel how many videos has Jay made about issues with water cooling and how many about issues with air cooling.
@terryheimerl8674
@terryheimerl8674 17 күн бұрын
Tell the truth Jay. You set up builds like this to give Phil laughs and make the rest of us feel normal. Days like this make the good days feel soooo much better! Terry from Australia.
@daviddesrosiers1946
@daviddesrosiers1946 17 күн бұрын
I'm in the midst of a clean/flush/swap cycle right now. Opaque/cloudy fluids look cool, but I only run clear because I don't like the buildup.
@Neanderthal75
@Neanderthal75 18 күн бұрын
I hate RGB so much, I'd rather use my 90s tower than buying any modern case with RGB preinstalled.
@dr.brennstab2201
@dr.brennstab2201 17 күн бұрын
My advice as someone who used to have a watercooled build. Just don't do it. It's absolutely not worth it.
@darkmaster2110
@darkmaster2110 17 күн бұрын
AIOs are fine of course, but yes, custom loops are simply not worth the extra cost and work they require
@tarkov666
@tarkov666 16 күн бұрын
Mixing liquid and electronics always seemed to risky for me
@dr.brennstab2201
@dr.brennstab2201 16 күн бұрын
@@darkmaster2110 I don't know the current state of AIOs, but they were quite unreliable a few years ago. I even had a case, where a friend of mine had to contact corsair serveral times for a replacement, because of pump failure. The AIO was mounted regulary, on top of the case. That means, that not feeding the pump properly, couldn't be the problem. The performance also wasn't that much better than a good aircooling. I'd probabaly build a custom AIO, if I ever want to get back into watercooling.
@RicochetForce
@RicochetForce 16 күн бұрын
Exactly. Save your time, save your money, put it towards a better GPU or CPU.
@pseudonym5872
@pseudonym5872 11 күн бұрын
As someone who has built liquid-cooled systems for myself and others for many years, I wholeheartedly disagree with the "not worth it" sentiment. I don't do hard tubing - only flex tubing. Just that in itself makes a huge difference - flex tubing is nowhere near as difficult as hard tubing, both in the initial build and in maintenance. With a well-designed loop, the entire system is cooler - not just the CPU and GPU. Plus it runs quieter. And you can run less expensive components but get the performance level of more expensive components. The clock speeds will be higher due to lower temps, thus giving you higher performance.
@finnyfinnster4694
@finnyfinnster4694 18 күн бұрын
I’m so glad jay has brought Asus back to the channel, this is the third video I’ve seen so far featuring an Asus product since the whole thing happened last year
@dustincooper4028
@dustincooper4028 17 күн бұрын
Jay and crew you guys are great not looking for any sympathy, but I just came out of brain surgery day before yesterday be catching up on your videos and you guys put a smile on my face every day. Just watching you guys work that tho the projects and all. An wanted to give you thank you for all the funny videos and pro tip. If it wasn’t for you 3. I probably would’ve made some big mistakes in my builds. An here it is!!!! THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart! Keep up the great videos please. No this is the only common I’ve ever made on any channel!!
@SoranoGuardias
@SoranoGuardias 18 күн бұрын
Good ol Skunkworks
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue 18 күн бұрын
you know the draw back to the cpu running to cold is it allowed the growth to form in the cpu loop the gpu loop runs to hot and kills off any growth when it runs preventing growth to get out of hand you know🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@andljoy
@andljoy 18 күн бұрын
When will people learn to not use stupid coloured or pastel fluids ?
@def-po8tu
@def-po8tu 18 күн бұрын
I like the crystal clear look. Pastel can look really cool but all the dye is really bad for the loop
@zachcollins4442
@zachcollins4442 18 күн бұрын
Maybe they like using something other than clear?
@Rashimotosan
@Rashimotosan 18 күн бұрын
Why do you care?
@99mage99
@99mage99 18 күн бұрын
Why do you care what someone else does with their own time and money, especially when they're just messing around with a hobby?
@jolness1
@jolness1 18 күн бұрын
Some folks think it’s worth the extra maintenance. I don’t but idc if others do.
@gallagher87
@gallagher87 13 күн бұрын
"The pump" "the fluid" i love this channel, and i also can't stop sounding like Arnold in my head, when i hear few of these computer words 😂😂
@walterlegere1403
@walterlegere1403 17 күн бұрын
This is exactly why I don't have any of this crap on my custom system. Performance is worth way more than "pretty"!
@jabertone4971
@jabertone4971 18 күн бұрын
Air cool everything 😎
@Esa826
@Esa826 18 күн бұрын
Hrrrrrrr, whooooos, What you say? I can't hear!!!!
@Robbie-mw5uu
@Robbie-mw5uu 11 күн бұрын
nobody tell this guy that water cooled computers still need loud fans lmao
@Esa826
@Esa826 11 күн бұрын
@@Robbie-mw5uu I know but you can run them on lower rpm, less noise. "Overall, though, liquid cooling tends to generate less sound, as the small pump is usually well insulated, and radiator fans tend to run at lower RPM (revolutions per minute) than those on the CPU heatsink."
@zerocoolcat
@zerocoolcat 18 күн бұрын
Oh man, you got EK stuff in there? Same thing happened to me man. Don't believe them, as soon as I switched their 2 products out of my loop, no more gross stuff!
@jarodwalker5335
@jarodwalker5335 17 күн бұрын
I had the same issue you are having. The premixed stuff didn't fall out but the stuff you have to mix did. Very frustrating. I can see that it's building up on the inside of my tubing and in the micro fins.
@hexacarbide268
@hexacarbide268 16 күн бұрын
I'm dealing with a semi loose rgb control cable at present... gotta love it.
@grants7390
@grants7390 17 күн бұрын
I'm honestly shocked that they would make a connector that not only can be plugged in backwards, but causes damage if you do.
@jakajese5160
@jakajese5160 14 күн бұрын
What you meant to say was that you're not surprised Jay plugged it in backwards ... it's like saying you're surprised you can plug the power cord into itself.
@grants7390
@grants7390 13 күн бұрын
@@jakajese5160 every other connector in a modern computer is keyed so that it can't be plugged in wrong and break something. an increase in customer support calls costs a hell of a lot more than making the connector not able to be plugged in backwards.
@youbetterwakeup2449
@youbetterwakeup2449 13 күн бұрын
@@grants7390 Agreed. I'm having a hard time coming up with any other electronics which allow for such mistakes. Most electrical outlets and plugs even come with one side bigger than the other, so there's no mistaking which way it goes in the hole.
@jakajese5160
@jakajese5160 13 күн бұрын
@@grants7390 news flash, D-RGB connectors are keyed, but if you're a dofus and plug the source into itself, then I don't think you should be building computers and especially shouldn't be showing/teaching other people how to do stuff on youtube or anywhere for that matter.
@grants7390
@grants7390 13 күн бұрын
@@jakajese5160 11:00 that's not a D-RGB connector. there are 4 pins. D-RGB connectors have 3 pins. it's a 12v RGB header connector.
@foehammerTrance
@foehammerTrance 18 күн бұрын
I hate RGB enough that I'll pay extra for parts without it.
@MrEliaaaan
@MrEliaaaan 7 күн бұрын
I still can't believe I decided to go full r3t4r and do a full rgb watercooled pc. My next build is going to be inside the fractal pop mini silent, no water, no lights, pure raw performance in the smallest case possible.
@MrEliaaaan
@MrEliaaaan 7 күн бұрын
@@foehammerTrance politically correct way to say r-e,tar|ded (also can't be banned lol)
@alrez3845
@alrez3845 17 күн бұрын
had this mystic fog in 3 systems simultanly, perfektly cleaned, flushed on tap at sink first with cold and warm water for ages, then used ek cleaning set multiple times and so on.. every 2-3 weeks i noticed colordrop and needed to add stuff... after colored stuff and this im on only clear for life now..
@geikster5371
@geikster5371 18 күн бұрын
i love this PC...!!! awesome JOb JAy!!!
@Charlie-zj3hw
@Charlie-zj3hw 18 күн бұрын
I learned 10 yrs ago not to mess with custom loop cooling .. AIO is the way to go
@thetrainshop
@thetrainshop 18 күн бұрын
Yeah if you're no fun. Building a car with various parts versus just buying one off the lot
@emanggitulah4319
@emanggitulah4319 18 күн бұрын
True. For Jay it's free content, for us unnecessary trouble
@Mirza-dg3ur
@Mirza-dg3ur 18 күн бұрын
@@thetrainshop terrible analogy lol. It's more like someone building their own transmission, AIO users still build their own PCs
@baker003
@baker003 18 күн бұрын
My PC is called No Fuss No Muss for a reason. No RGB. No water. Just plug and play.
@kevinerbs2778
@kevinerbs2778 18 күн бұрын
So, it's basically a console, lol.
@Prophetian
@Prophetian 18 күн бұрын
​@kevinerbs2778 a very EXPENSIVE console emulator.
@Ben-le3nr
@Ben-le3nr 18 күн бұрын
​@@Prophetian when consoles are pcs and pcs are consoles which came first the egg or the chicken?
@billy5688
@billy5688 18 күн бұрын
​@@kevinerbs2778 how do you get console from just having a reliable PC?It's still a PC with full fledged desktop OS
@kevinerbs2778
@kevinerbs2778 18 күн бұрын
@@billy5688 No Pc is plug & play anymore. Only Consoles are plug & play. consoles have OS's now too, so you point is moot.
@SSYoung125
@SSYoung125 17 күн бұрын
I "had" to replace my entire case because it was not compatible with my A RGB software and it kept breaking my computer... So new case, all new fans, and $300 later my computer is all the same color.... what a waste of $300 freaking dollars just to fix my ocd
@trava4156
@trava4156 17 күн бұрын
Damn Jay got big lol, much love sir! But please take care of yourself.
@TheOfficialFloridaMan
@TheOfficialFloridaMan 18 күн бұрын
Jay: “seizuring” Webster Dictionary: “seizing”
@sky173
@sky173 18 күн бұрын
Is it possible to put a few drops of chlorine in a loop? It may be a stupid question but I'm just learning and know nothing about the subject. Thanks
@Phr0z3
@Phr0z3 18 күн бұрын
There are already growth inhibitors in it. Chlorine would just dissipate as it reacts with light.
@Spazilton1
@Spazilton1 17 күн бұрын
I had a loop with EK stuff I built in 2018, using EK concentrate with anti-growth stuff. I had that loop running for 4 years with no growth or issues, only the occasional top off with distilled water. Fast forward to 2022 same setup changed out the fluid with the same concentrate and nothing but growth and problems had to disassemble my distro, blocks and everything and tried again. 3 months later same thing. I was basically done with watercooling after that.
@TheCloudhopper
@TheCloudhopper 16 күн бұрын
I love the looks of these custom hardline watercooling loops. But this video nice demonstrates why I'm an aircooled guy (with some AIO exceptions) and always will. I just dont want to deal with this.
@kangjohan78
@kangjohan78 18 күн бұрын
Me when first getting RGB: nice! beautiful! work of art! After 3 days, I turned all my RGB off. They're either OFF or only on a Solid White.
@brandonhoffman4712
@brandonhoffman4712 17 күн бұрын
Meanwhile philips hue lights can dance to music... Edit: coming from the PC.
@magman687
@magman687 17 күн бұрын
I use this stuff once and I had fall out within 24-hours and complete Fallout within 3 days on a new properly prepped EK system. It cost a lot of issues because it got stuck in the sins of the heat plate in both the GPU and CPU and it took a very long time to clean out and then of course the radiators and everything. I was lucky and for my trouble EK sent me two times the fluid that I purchased and in a different color that wasn't pastel as well as two clear premixes and a full roll of replacement tubing. So I learned the hard way not to use Mystic fog because so many people have problems with it I have three friends that have used it and they all had the same issue however I do know online there are some people that have won several months with it working just fine
@darkienescariot9361
@darkienescariot9361 18 күн бұрын
These are the sorts of mishaps that eventually made me abandon open loop cooling. Too many points of failure and just ridiculous fiscal and maintenance overhead in comparison to simply...dusting heatsinks, coolers and fans periodically. Loop building is fun; but ultimately I'd argue its inefficient long term unless you have a regular workload involving twin 4090s or something; and that's just not most folks.
@garetht677
@garetht677 17 күн бұрын
tbh I do it because of fan noise. in my current build, the fans are sometimes not even spinning as they have a zero rpm mode while under load the fans maybe go to 700-900 rpm and make no noise. I've got a good air cooler backup for my cpu I've used and it was quiet, but the gpu I had...was soo noisy.
@damjanforjanic
@damjanforjanic 16 күн бұрын
One of the most beautifully assembled computers.
@SibirLupus
@SibirLupus 17 күн бұрын
I went with air cooling for my custom PC build along with a single RGB platform for ease of customization. 4 months of heavy use so far and 0 issues. Only maintenance needed is cleaning the case fan filters every 2 months.
@sj1547
@sj1547 18 күн бұрын
It's like having an aquarium... Awesome, so long as you can pay someone else to maintain it for you. I'll stick with an AIO.
@Jack-fp9qu
@Jack-fp9qu 18 күн бұрын
the greatest technician that ever lived
@brandonhoffman4712
@brandonhoffman4712 17 күн бұрын
Audio technician?
@ayylien
@ayylien 18 күн бұрын
I had a hardlined cooling setup with copper plates and brass tubing, never had growth and I just used plain distilled water. I went for the raw metal look, no nickle plating on my stuff.
@NRay7882
@NRay7882 17 күн бұрын
This was awesome, please do another video on OpenRGB and how you use it please. I'm very interested in customizing my RGB configurations because Aura Crate isn't working the way I'd like it to.
@yoavallon
@yoavallon 18 күн бұрын
These videos are the reason I don’t bother with water cooling
@Profetorum
@Profetorum 18 күн бұрын
This is a custom loop
@Immudzen
@Immudzen 18 күн бұрын
I love watching your videos but man you make me appreciate that I just went with a Fractal Torrent and a good air cooler for my system.
@bradtraq1
@bradtraq1 16 күн бұрын
Take my strong hand had me dying🤣
@h3avyban4na43
@h3avyban4na43 18 күн бұрын
Open RGB has been the best solution I've found, I tried signal for a while but it's more resource intensive and I still encountered issues with my RAM. Open RGB does not have the most polished UI and you do need a plugin to get advanced effects but once you tackle the learning curve it's well worth the time investment.
@Thin447Line
@Thin447Line 18 күн бұрын
So why would I ever want to water cool my PC? It looks like an absolute nightmare for maintenance and troubleshooting.
@reeepingk
@reeepingk 18 күн бұрын
It is, you don't. Water cooling is for people who have too much time on their hands. There is virtually zero advantage over an all in one or heck, barely any advantage over air cooling.
@BobBobson
@BobBobson 18 күн бұрын
It sounds like you wouldn't. As for the benefits, that's a simple Google search.
@IntergalacticBrowny
@IntergalacticBrowny 18 күн бұрын
Because water cooling looks cool and works well. Custom loops are really for people who want them, if you want the function without the hassle just get an AIO
@doctahjonez
@doctahjonez 18 күн бұрын
Because it's highly customizable, and looks cool when everything it set up. You don't have to get the stupid water cooling if you don't wanna.
@DGneoseeker1
@DGneoseeker1 18 күн бұрын
You wouldn't. Unless you were planning on doing some kind of completely insane and completely unnecessary overclock.
@gkipp3924
@gkipp3924 18 күн бұрын
I hate unicorn vomit. It's getting harder to find parts without it
@MaddJakd
@MaddJakd 17 күн бұрын
Funny thing is, and wait for it..... You can actually CHANGE the colors 🤯 I know, shocking.
@gkipp3924
@gkipp3924 17 күн бұрын
@MaddJakd wow, you don't say 🙄
@MaddJakd
@MaddJakd 17 күн бұрын
@@gkipp3924 your type always wanna chime in as if your stance is something original or so.ething to behold. Don't get mad when you get a reality check.
@gkipp3924
@gkipp3924 17 күн бұрын
@MaddJakd not mad, nor do I take anything your type has to say serious. If you want a rainbow rig, have at it I don't
@gkipp3924
@gkipp3924 17 күн бұрын
@MaddJakd Jay asked the question, your dumb sarcasm was not needed, hence the eye roll, but good for you, thinking someone is mad lol
@johnhunt1725
@johnhunt1725 17 күн бұрын
Liquid cooled PCs make me chuckle. The futility of chasing such a fleeting state of maximum performance among hardware peers is astounding.
@MichelGrandmaison
@MichelGrandmaison 18 күн бұрын
I have the same issue with residu forming at the top of my reservoir since I switch to ek-cryofuel clear... I guess we could be looking at a common denominator.
@NelielSugiura
@NelielSugiura 18 күн бұрын
RGB is an absolute waste of money, electricity, and time. Also, I have enough light from my monitors; do not need any more in the room.
@a3-radio
@a3-radio 18 күн бұрын
Most hobbies and passions are a "waste of money"
@Robbie-mw5uu
@Robbie-mw5uu 11 күн бұрын
are you a basement goblin that you don't have any lamps in your room?
@Muciciosa
@Muciciosa 18 күн бұрын
I hate RGB. That's why first thing I do when I buy something with RGB is to turn it off!!! I don't need colors, I need power :D
@emanggitulah4319
@emanggitulah4319 18 күн бұрын
So true
@LunaStar666
@LunaStar666 18 күн бұрын
Same here. I agree.
@GDOsmium
@GDOsmium 18 күн бұрын
I've spent hours trying to figure out how to turn off the rgb on my cpu fan only to find out that I can't lmao, so there's just one component that is bright rgb in contrast to almost everything else being dark
@emanggitulah4319
@emanggitulah4319 18 күн бұрын
@@GDOsmium waste of energy and money.
@UltrafineDeluxe
@UltrafineDeluxe 18 күн бұрын
It's also childish looking.
@Atharyel
@Atharyel 18 күн бұрын
I went with matte black soft tubing and a distro plate in my O11DXL. It looks almost as clean as hard tubing and is much easier to maintain. Using DP Ultra coolant, no worries about clogging up.
@geort45
@geort45 18 күн бұрын
Get a darn Farbwerk RGB from Aqua Computer. They even have overload protection.
@bunthewiser4330
@bunthewiser4330 18 күн бұрын
Damn, Jay gaining weight.
@JuraIbis
@JuraIbis 18 күн бұрын
"Can you spot what's wrong?" Yes, you used water cooling. Never use water cooling.
@BranZHamZ
@BranZHamZ 17 күн бұрын
all in all though, that build is SO BEAUTIFUL, just like you Jay
@goranstewart4726
@goranstewart4726 13 күн бұрын
Built a new loop for my youngest in the Evo RGB case with EK cpu block, gpu block, O11D distro plate and Lian Li TL/TLCD new fans. RGB is driving me nuts. The loop is excellent and before I started I worked out where the drain plug would go plus ensuring I can remove RAM and the main Nvme SSD without draining the whole system.
@MasoThings
@MasoThings 18 күн бұрын
Am I the only one who just won't put water inside a PC? Only because. Everyone I've watched. 10x better than me, has always had problems with water cooling.
@christopheoberrauch784
@christopheoberrauch784 18 күн бұрын
No, you're definitely not the only one.
@FasuloA
@FasuloA 18 күн бұрын
I’m with you man, they look like the equivalent of supermodels when they’re done - but apparently also are supermodel level high maintenance as well. My M.O. is to way overspend once every 3-4 years on a new top tier system (i do build myself but no custom watercooling, just AIO) but want to leave it the hell alone and just play and enjoy in between.
@davidtran9444
@davidtran9444 18 күн бұрын
As an old school water cooler, hard tubing is an unsustainable fad.
@tmoshamo
@tmoshamo 18 күн бұрын
It seems like its making things overly complicated.
@brandonhoffman4712
@brandonhoffman4712 17 күн бұрын
Jay, I feel like you're hemorrhaging from the bleeding edge. I see, acknowledge, and thank you, for doing it for us!
@scottwsmith
@scottwsmith 18 күн бұрын
I had similar issues with the EK Cryofuel Clear the first time I had an open water loop. Growth, build up, just bad all around. Went to the PrimoChill PC Ice Clear and no problems.
@thni1703
@thni1703 17 күн бұрын
To clean the Reservoir like that, you should print a nozzle for a flask, which spreads it out and thereby cleans the sides.
@felixm.8910
@felixm.8910 17 күн бұрын
I've been running the exact same EK CryoFuel mystic fog for 5 years now. I pulled my loop apart once 2.5 years ago to add a GPU waterblock. There was no buildup anywhere in the loop so I refilled the loop with the same fluid as before. I'm running 3x360 alphacool rad's & fittings, EK CPU and GPU block & pump. I did clean out the radiators before filling the loop for the first time. Maybe that's what made the difference.
@alekscircel2292
@alekscircel2292 18 күн бұрын
I love Jay's COSHH Cupboard , he is so organised
@FabricioGdaS
@FabricioGdaS 17 күн бұрын
I love this kinda water cooler videos (and RGB as well) :)
@johngrindel6822
@johngrindel6822 17 күн бұрын
4:15 in and I wanted to cry. The sound of the twisted handle on the brush grinding on the threads for the cap was unbearable. LOL🤣
@kdc420421
@kdc420421 17 күн бұрын
I had a friend run mystic fog 2 different times. Both times the particles fell out of the mixture and gunked his stuff up. I have a crazy water cooled rgb loaded PC built in a thermaltake tower 900 and mystic fog would look SICK. But i have always resisted the temptation because i know how much trouble cleaning it can be when there are problem
@PostNoteIt
@PostNoteIt 18 күн бұрын
RGB is the worst. I've used MSI Mystic Light to switch off RGB on my pre-built Meg Trident X but occasionally a read flash apears inside the case, and then it turns dark again. Do I need to worry?
@Geo255420
@Geo255420 17 күн бұрын
I am still running EKWB EK Fluid Gaming soft tubing water cooling kit. I have been impressed with it. I maintain my loop with distilled water and anti growth additive. Have never had and issue. I know a lot of people don't like tubbing but my 5 year old media center build is still an art piece. 1080ti/amd ryzen 5 3600. Plays the couch games I need and the EKWB EK Fluid Gaming kit has served me very well. The recent corsair kit make me want to upgrade but I dont need more this works so well.
@Boeb95
@Boeb95 17 күн бұрын
Been running mystic fog for about 3 years now. With mixed water cooling component brands no issues on soft tubing. The issue I'm thinking is something in jays loop is a mixed metal or residue from previous fluids is causing this problem. How ever my pc is always running maybe stopping it from becoming discolored
@hexacarbide268
@hexacarbide268 16 күн бұрын
the fans and rgb organization struggle is realz... like seriously. Good luck brother
@thomasb.842
@thomasb.842 18 күн бұрын
Pro tip: that is what maintenance hatches are for ;-) Reasons why I dont like watercooling: 1. very expensive 2. very very expensive 3. maintenance intensive 4. very very very expensive But I am not a cc so it is annoying for him to do this again but at least he can create something for the channel. And probably I am too poor to understand the reasons of watercooling.
@ryanpatrickpavey6575
@ryanpatrickpavey6575 17 күн бұрын
Everyone always thinks they are gonna be the exception with Mystic Clog, but you never will be. Pastel coolants will fall out and this is one of the worst.
@jakesnow96
@jakesnow96 18 күн бұрын
I always loved any your videos that had water-cooling in it. Especially when you were making your own water blocks for GPUs.
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