This is the equivalent to self-harm IMO. To give yourself 3 tattoos a week youre always having something hurting or healing on your body just like people who are addicted to cutting. This is a mental illness not a hobby to this person, they are using it as a coping mechanism

I'm from Aotearoa (New Zealand), unfortunately the devast8 guy only went to one tattoo removal appointment and then decided to keep the tattoo and has continued to commit multiple criminal offences including assaulting and threatening to kill a woman, dangerous driving causing multiple accidents, and assaulting a cop and is back in prison.

This lady really needs to address her mental health. Not because she has facial tattoos, but because she’s using tattoos as a form of self-harm. Compulsively giving yourself “prison style” tattoos isn’t safe or healthy. I hope she gets some help and considers some remote employment. This might be obvious, but is there a reason that guy doesn’t try growing some facial hair? Even a fake beard could work for him.

I think Melissa fails to mention that she doesn't actively try to get a job, she sits at home and claims government benefits, she just wants a sob story, I'm from the UK and I don't live far from wales, the attitude is not as conservative and restrictive as she wants to claim especially in Wales, I know multiple people with face tattoos who struggled just as much as everyone else in finding a job, its not easy in the UK our economy is terrible at the moment. But if she truly struggled it's not solely about her being tattooed it's the fact that her tattoos are offensive and associated with far right UK movements such as the EDL. (St George's Cross)

... IIRC Melissa wasn't banned from her kid's school play for having tattoos, there was significantly more to that story than she let on. I can't help but think this is just another example of her spinning a narrative to paint herself as a victim and presumably make some money out of it. She's said in an interview that "I have had one (job) once before and it didn't last long". So... If you weren't able to get a job (bear in mind she's 46) BEFORE the face tattoos, why would you assume that your tattoos are the reason now?? As an employer, my first issue would be the complete lack of employment history & why she wasn't able to hold down a cleaning job. And if any single one of the things she's claiming potential employers have said to her was true, she'd have grounds for a lawsuit. I'm sorry but I don't buy it. Perhaps I'm jaded but she's 46 with 7 kids (trying for an eighth), a face full of (racist) tattoos and has never had a steady job? I don't honestly think she wants one. She also claims to be "shunned by the local community" and banned from a local pub and the local tattoo studios... What's the betting that has less to do with having face tattoos in general, and much more to do with said tattoos being RACIST?! She says "I'm banned from tattoo parlours because my face is full of tattoos"... that smells an awful lot like BS, it doesn't even make any sense! There has to be more to it that she doesn't want to say, presumably because it'll make her look bad. You don't just get banned from a pub OR a tattoo studio without a good reason, it's definitely NOT solely based on the way she looks. Aside from all that, her 3-a-week DIY tattoo habit is unbelievably dangerous. She's said her "skin has been falling off recently because of tattoos not healing properly" and that "despite her skin infections, she still inks in new tattoos on open wounds because she is impatient"... Please. Stop. Get some help before one of those infections is life threatening. I am truly sorry for the horrendous things she's been through and she is clearly using tattoos as therapy / a coping mechanism, but I'm finding it very difficult to believe these ridiculous, far-fetched claims.

Melissa says that tattoos help her with trauma and this is exactly what her employeers see and why she can't get a job. She is signalling that she is an unwell human being.

🏢 I think there's more to the Melissa Sloane thing than she lets on. She's had (now covered up I believe) at George's cross tattoos on her face, which is the English national flag. Firstly, usually when someone who is English has these tattooed on them, they're far right politically. Secondly, she lives in Wales, and there are a lot of Welsh people who do not like the English, so walking around with a st George's cross tattoo on your face is really going to get the backs up of a lot of people who she lives around. I imagine she keeps these facts out of her stories in the tabloids, because it doesn't fit into her narrative of what she is putting across

Look, as a heavily tattooed person, and having worked in several tattoo shops, the first thing I would tell someone looking for facial tattoos, would be, DON'T. There is an unavoidable social stigma that is going to SEVERELY limit your prospects, in ALL of the areas of your life, for as long as you keep a facial tattoo. Your job prospects will dim, and even your relationship prospects will attract most likely very undesirable partners.

Thats why we call face tatts "Everlasting Jobstoppers"

Employers will just say you’re not fit for the job

I teach university and have tattoos covering most of my forearms and I wear short sleeves all the time. I have several piercings also. Nobody cares. If I got face tattoos...that may be an issue, idk. There is an invisible barrier at the neck, that's true. Fair or not, that is true. There is something socially challenging to some including employers about blocking how your face looks. Jobs that require teamwork do require folks being able to read each other and that is hindered by facial tattoos.

Let's forget about her face tattoos. Let's say they are not even there. Look at her appearance. How she's dressed. What's around her head. Her hair is buzzed. The random colors of her hair. Even if she had no tattoos, nobody would hire her.

Retired tattooist here-people really need to think about where they are going to get ink and about employment. Face tattoos are not conducive for getting employment especially if your dealing with face to face customer service. The face is one area of my body I will never tattoo,and I never tattooed anyone’s face when I was tattooing.

I agree that having tattoos should not be a reason to discriminate people. However, the content of some tattoos are just inappropriate, like hate symbols, but also sexually explicit tattoos. If a person with a penis tattooed in their face applies to work with children or something like that, I believe 100% that they should not be hired specifically for that tattoo.

Is the issue that they have face tattoos, or that their face tattoos look like garbage?

At the end of the day, a work place can find any reason to deny employment. They may say you didn’t nail the interview or didn’t pass this or that when it’s really your looks . So it sounds good on paper but there are always loopholes so people can refuse you .

I don’t understand why they would act surprised. They knew this would happen.

I am a corporate recruiter so this might be because of my job but I can't be the only one who's noticed this right? Mark complains he can't find a job because of tattoos and in the same breath admits he doesn't have a cv... I can totally understand it's hard to find a job when you have a face tattoo. But if I was looking for a job I would go to a public library or any place that has free wifi, make a basic cv stating skills and a bit of my story and send that shit to every company I can find in my area and then I'd spend the rest of my week following up on those emails by calling the companies and/or even stopping by to introduce myself. It is how I found the job that I have now. How is he actively 'searching for jobs' and finding none if he doesn't even have a cv? Like, the face tat is already a big disadvantage but then you show up to apply for a job without even as much as a CV. That will make your search even harder for yourself. Companies can and most definitely will judge a person with face tattoos for a multitude of (unjustified and superficial) reasons. The top 2 usually being: They are afraid it will negatively impact the company's image and/or they see it as an extention of your mental state(aka they assume you're unstable and unreliable). The least you can do to prove them wrong is show your motivation by showing up on time with your cv. He's 19, he just got out of jail. He already starts at a disadvantage, why make it harder on yourself? Just SAYING you're keen on finding a job doesn't SHOW you're motivated. You can get away with a lot these days, even face tats(his was still passeable compared to others I've seen) by just showing pure willpower and motivation to your future employer. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he got the opportunity to remove the tats and that he got a job. I wish nothing but the best for this young man but it just doesn't feel like he tried all that hard before complaining and blaming the face tat for everything. Most construction jobs don't care how you look and they pay well too.

There’s a difference between getting a tattoo (or several) and being tattooed in such a way, as to not get a job. I’m a psychologist who was very heavily tattooed before tattooing became so mainstream. BUT I managed to get a backpiece, full buttocks, chest piece, sleeves, stomach, full lower legs and feet…..and no one I worked with ever knew. It wasn’t until I retired that I did my hands. In Malissas case it really seems her “ obsession “ with tattooing serves another primary psychological function for her, other than aesthetics. Phil Sparrow writes about tattooing certain clients private parts, without ink in the early 1960s. Clearly not an aesthetic utilization of the art form.

I've been getting tattooed for 22 years. When I finally decided to get my hands done 2 years ago I also purchased tattoo cover makeup. It wasn't even a question, it was just "Well, if I do this, I may need it" kinda thing. I agree that society as a whole needs to ease up about bias towards people who are tattooed, but we have to have realistic expectations.

Ok... It's a tough one. I love tattoos and i have 16 myself, but I am not surprised about them not being hired. Those tatts look messy and simply unpleasant to look at. Most jobs require communication with other people Honestly, face tattoos and overall tatts on the spaces that you can't cover with clothes are a bad idea unless u r rich or an influencer or something 😔

Really appreciate bringing up white privilege in these situations. Mark’s story particularly struck me, seeing as how he not only had the massive face tattoo, but was a young criminal, no work history and had a kid, I doubt (in the states at least) if Mark were black or brown with the same descriptors that he’d be getting job offers, sympathy, and flown out for complementary procedures.

The stigma of even basic tattoos still lingers amongst many people, I can see how face tattoos will make your job hunting harder. (It shouldn’t though)

Some people don’t realize you also need qualifications to have a job. If you have zero qualifications and zero experience and you go up against someone equally qualified who isn’t covered in tattoos than you probably won’t get the job. But if your CV/ résumé speaks for itself than you are less likely to be discriminated against. Of course that won’t always be the case but it’s something to keep in mind.

This might be a hot take but: the woman addicted to tattoos kinda proved herself to be mentally unstable. I can’t work because of my mental health issues related to trauma and other things, if someone doesn’t want to hire her because they judged her based on her tattoos she pretty much confirmed their judgements to be correct when she explained why she did that. Edit: oh and apparently she’s lying or at least stretching the truth so there’s that

There is a chain of service stations in Texas and I know they are in other states. If you fill out an application they state they won’t hire you if you have a tattoo. It’s a gas station, so that is dumb. If it was offensive I would understand. And their language just says tattoo. It doesn’t say hand, face, neck, ect. So even if you had one on your arm that could be covered they wouldn’t hire you. In my opinion that is insane. I am a professor and a therapist at a psych hospital and no university has ever said a word to me about my tattoos. The negative stigma around tattoos needs to go away already. Also, people shouldn’t be denied housing or a job because they have a tattoo. While I can agree it shouldn’t be lumped in with race, gender, ect. It should still be something that can’t be held against you.

Yes, she could use heavy cover makeup for her face on workdays. It would be a hassle, but definitely doable. No matter how unfair, tattoos can still be a major turn-off for employers. For example, Disney Cruises still won't hire cruise personnel, not even higly educated and sought after cruise line technicians, if their tattoos can't be covered or if the person won't agree on removal.

When you have tattoos & body piercings that scare children, there’s a good reason to question your tattoos & piercings! 😢😮😢😮😮

In a work environment, a person may have to make important decisions. What if your inability to make smart life choices is literally broadcast from your own face? Can you blame a prospective employer for having concerns? Cultural markings, I get it. "DEVAST8"? Seriously?

A moko is very identifiable, and visibly tribal (as in every tribe has its own). Also for context, our minimum wage is about to go up to $23-something so Mark is likely getting paid minimum wage. I’ve had a visible tattoo since 2012, usually sat in interviews with it out. No surprises.

OMG! I didn't realize the addiction could get as bad as Melissa's. I feel for her. I feel for Mark too.

I'd like to know how these people know that they haven't been hired specifically because of their tattoos. I've never been told the reason as to why I didn't get a job. I've never even been told that I didn't get a job. I would just go home and wait for a phone call that would never come. Do people usually get told that they didn't get the job and why? 🤔 🏢

Article: Man with DEVAST8 face tattoo says he can’t find work …. Hm, well that’s devast8ing

Face tattoos are very distracting. I have 76 tattoos and would never consider a neck , face, or hand tattoo. When you are having a technical, professional discussion with a group of people trying to make a point, their attention is taken away by this nontypical face. People are thinking about how much did that hurt,, or was this person loaded at the time this was done to them, studying the pictures on this face, and not hearing you give your presentation. So yes I wear long sleeve shirts to work.

I think most people that watch this channel are accepting of tattoos, but to think that everyone else has to accept your decisions is silly. This form of ultra-acceptance normalizes maladaptive behaviors stemming form mental health issues. We shouldn't say it's ok for a person to be an alcoholic because they have mental health struggles nor should we normalize any other type of unhealthy coping mechanisms.

Tattoos, piercings, and colourful dyed hair should absolutely be something you can't discriminate against when hiring someone. Yes it's a choice, but you should be able to choose how you want to express yourself without having a fear you won't be able to find work. There can be exceptions for hateful imagery. It's time society moves on from judging people on how they look and dress

If people are going to do this they should consider if they have a self-employed career that can sustain them, or take into account what most people will think when they show up for an interview. Most jobs that are considered respectable, would not hire someone that would make their customers (or them) feel uncomfortable. Plus, they're not going to tell you that your tattoos are the reason you didn't get the job.

It’s the housing discrimination that really puts it in perspective for me. Absolutely, you shouldn’t be denied housing, shelter, based on your tattoos. But… how do you pay for housing? I get not lumping it with other protected classes, but how do you ensure people can survive? (I mean you could dismantle captialism and restructure society but… you know in lieu of that..)

Classic "don't cut your nose off to spite your face". These are examples of people lashing out at society for not accepting them after rejecting societal norms themselves. Society owes us nothing and hard work always pays off. I see no victims here.

🏢 I agree with you, as a queer activist, I don’t believe that tattoos need to be listed as a protected class. What is already protected under current laws are ethnicity-based tattoos, and so that is not a reason to add tattoos.

I have tattoos, but no face tattoos, I work in the hotel industry, my boss is extremely open-minded and accepting, in the summer my arm tattoos show and I am a guy with very long hair on top of that which is usually a big no no in this line of work, but it's a private hotel, and I'm lucky. The truth of the matter is that some industries rely heavily on what the personnel looks like, and you can't force those industries to just hire anybody against their will. It's just the world we live in. That's why my personal tattoo rule has always been that I have to be able to wear a suit, and have no tattoos show.

I believe that times are changing regarding hand and neck tattoos and soon facial tattoos will become neutralised. I'm 30, I'm not bothered at all if someone is heavily tattood in their workplace. The issue with heavy facial tattoos with little/no skin breaks is it makes it very hard to focus your eyes on the person and identify them. Hers throw off the contrast and shadows so much I feel like my eyes are being absorbed.

I've had several piercings including a lip ring that have never hindered my ability to get a university teaching job. Now I also have a half-sleeve and several other tattoos that are visible depending on what I'm wearing. They've never been an issue for me, and my students often compliment me on my modifications. I think unless someone has a hate symbol or other tattoo that reflects negatively on the person's character, they shouldn't be discriminated against for being modified. 🏢

I'm an advocate for the belief that tattoos shouldn't affect your hiring process, only your professional qualifications should - but I also can definitely see how some tattoos can be a reflection of a person's characteristics and any present mental turmoil, which may affect their performance. If I was a typical office recruiter, I would have no problem hiring a qualified person with a well-done face tattoo. However, I'd be hesitant to hire someone who is getting new tattoos every week - not because I don't like the tattoos, it's just a sign that the person is highly impulsive and reckless with their spending, which I wouldn't want from a responsible candidate.

When I got my first one at age 40, the minute the tattooist lifted the gun off my skin, I looked up at him gobsmacked and said, this is what it feels like when you come off stage. Can understand how people get addicted.

I’m not sure it’s about the tattoos , but it gives an impression that you may not self control. Which can be a liability, Like no impulse control would be a risky hire .

‘It’s not the case/ she had a job cleaning once’ 😂😂

I might sound awful here, but if I were in a position where I need to hire people I wouldn't hire them either. I see big and poorly done face tattoos as an indicator for an amount of impulsiveness that I'm neither ready or willing to deal with, especially if my choice would also affect my other theoretical employees.

In 1995 when tattoos were still considered taboo, I had my very first article published (in a tattoo magazine, no less). To celebrate, I got a tattoo visibly on my wrist. It was also as a promise to myself never to apply for a day job again; I was a writer and not interested in a typical 9 to 5. ... Now I'll go to the bank and see bankers with short sleeve shirts in the summer and full sleeve tattoos. It's great!

This video is nicely done IMO. I appreciate celle's calm voice while explaining multiple facets of this complex issue.

I just realized how long your hair got 😍

That law would be really hard to enforce. Are you really going to sue someone for not hiring someone with a hate symbol on their face as a teacher?

Sorry but I have limited sympathy. They knew exactly what they were getting into when they kept tattooing their face. It shouldn't be everyone else's responsibility to pay for you to live because you choose to color your face with permanent ink.

I’ve never seen a doctor or lawyer with a visible neck or hand tattoo..

Businesses can't afford to hire people who they know have poor judgement.

hi, heavily tattooed U.S. lawyer here! whlie I'm not an expert on employment law, I know that the U.S. is generally very careful about not lumping in voluntary things, like tattoos, with those that are just objectively true, like race or sex. I think that an appropriate middle ground is to not be able to outright deny someone employment because they are tattoed, but maybe to require a dress code that is equally applied to all employees- that might mean a tattooed person needs to cover up their ink when facing clients or something like that. In my case, I usually cover my tattoos when I am face to face with clients or in court, because I know I might subject myself to unfair stereotypes. In the office, I wear what's allowed under our private dress code, which allows me to show all of my tattoos freely as long as I'm in appropriate office clothing.

🏢 your voice is soooo relaxing

"never get a tattoo that you can't hide from a judge" Brian Setzer

I think the quality of the tattoos make a huge difference

Most businesses don't want to hire someone who clearly makes bad choices in life. They want a person they can depend on and follows rules.

I firmly believe tattoos should be put in there because religion is in there and while some people are born into a religion some aren't and choose to participate in different ones from what they practiced growing up when they're older.

I love watching your videos. You have a very chill & genuine way about you. 🏢

You have to work on your mental health and understand that just because you have an addiction doesn’t mean you let it consume you. At least, that’s how I fight my own addiction.

I live in Bellingham WA and work in the mental health field Tattoos and piercings are acceptable as long as they are not offensive.

What looks good/aesthetic is subjective however it’s more likely that most people would consider this person’s look as unplanned, not cohesive and unappealing.

Getting a tattoo is a choice. People know how it might effect them before getting it so I don’t think it should be considered discrimination

I don't believe in denying someone employment because they have a tattoo specifically, but an employer still has a right to hire you based on how they feel your image will represent their company. If you try to get a job at at a company with a clear tattoo of one of their competitors on your neck, I think it's prefectly in their right to deny you employment based on that alone.

I think the problem with face tatoo is how hard it can make for identifying the person... As for tatoos in other visible areas of the body, here in Canada nobody cares about it.

She wanted that and she shouldn't complain now! I also think that the tax payers should not be supporting her life, seeing this was her choice! She isn't disabled, she choose this and should face the consequences of her decision! Disablity is for those that have injuries or mental health problems that aren't their choice, not people that make themselves look like freaks and because of that CHOICE can't get a job!! What it comes down to is...what you "want" compared to what you "need", if you are going to make your self unemployable because of your tatoos then you have nobody but yourself to blame, you can't cry disability or that I am a victim!! They did this to themselves!! What company would want someone who looks like that to be forward facing the customers of their company, not one!! As far as her covering up her abuse, therapy is the better choice, not making yourself totally unemployable, did she think that having all those tatoos on her face would make her feel less trauma or would make employers want to hire her? Having all those tatoos on her face Does Not change the way she feels about the abuse and she will now still need the therapy she should have gotten before making herself unemployable! Let the lesson be...think about how this will impact the rest of your life, instead of going off half cocked and ruining your life! I can honestly say that if I had a business that hired employees, I would not hire these people to be the forward face of my company and you can hardly blame me. So, all of you that want to do this to yourselves, don't be surprised when you can't get a job! Various governments can make all the "laws" they want but all an employer has to say is that you are not well enough qualified or that someone else is more qualified for the job and that is exactly what I would do, I absolutely would not have someone with face tatoos as the forward face of my company, PERIOD! They can make all the "laws" they want but I will find away around them not to have someone who looks like a freak be the ones dealing with my customers! If I have a back of house job available where they don't come into contact with customers then I would give them a chance.

Once again this comes back to getting very visible tattoos and tattoos that aren't done very well at all. Nobody is turning away people with full body suits of Japanese when those tattoos usually cut off 3/4 sleeve (or a little lower) and at the neckline. It's also a style that can blend in very well to clothing. People rushing out to get their hands, neck and faces blasted by scratchers in kitchens are not getting hired for jobs where appearance (unfortunately) still matters! I'm not saying it's right or wrong to judge people or that hiring should include appearance, but you absolutely need to plan for things.

For me, it’s not the face tattoos in isolation. I believe that face tattoos can be amazing. For these two people though… they are simply the most (literally) visible part of a pattern of life choices that, as a potential employer, I would be very concerned about

for real im full of tattoos and i cant feel for melissa What did you think was gonna happen?

I think it says something to the employer about your decision making. If it’s poorly done then that adds to the reminder of said poor decisions.

I love your american traditional sleeve. It's looking even better with that color wow

I have a slight tattoo addicted, but I only have a sleeve. Who’d have thought that getting a bunch of “job stoppers” would have prevented you from getting a job. Most of the jobs that accept people with tattoos are “starter jobs” almost everyone I worked with in fast food was tattooed. The only thing they didn’t like, was multiple facial piercings. I was supposed to take out my lip piercings but I refused to because I had a colleague who kept getting face tattoos. My little lip studs didn’t bother anyone.

To be fair, cleaning toilets whilst constantly sporting fresh tattoos probably isn't the smartest idea, hygienically speaking.

I've been descriminated against by a lot of employers for my disability even though I had the skills and presented well. These people are not truly disabled. They needed to think ahead about their choices.

Eh. Its to be expected, we're still not there yet. Body makeup is your friend. Its what i do to cover up my tats on my professional job.

In Seattle "political affiliation" is a protected employment category, so having a face tattoo from a hate group might technically fall under this. That being said I've worked with a guy with Kanji letters under his eyes that looked like sports eye black who welded and ran a giant metal shear, we made decent money and housing in the area was super cheap (this was over a decade ago in another state so idk about now) and he was married, so if you're in the right industry and you don't have other issues really, really noticeable face tattoos might not be a deal breaker.

Fortunately, we have come a long way when it comes to the acceptance of tattoos and it's not nearly as frowned upon as it was 10 years ago still. However, very poorly done face tats will likely never get you far, no matter how far the acceptance of tattoos has come. Your body, your choice yada yada... But when they look horrible, you should never wonder why you don't get jobs. That's basically comming to work at a bank with your trainers and food stained shirt.

As a person with tattoos, I think certain tattoos can be discriminated against. Even if someone no longer believes in something. If you have a visible N*zi symbol or KKK tattoo, the employer has every right to not want that in their business.

I have tattoos my arms are sleeved and one whole leg done. I’m a business owner and I won’t hire people with tattoos all over their face. Unfortunately it’s what you will face when deciding to get face tattoos. It’s unfortunate but it’s the way it is and you knew this before getting the tattoos. It might not be fair but it’s life not everything is fair. These are things people did voluntarily knowing what the outcome would be. At least start your career show your worth before getting tattooed.

It is SO cool to see you slowly getting tatted, video from video, all the best on your journey celle

In a lot of states it's illegal to deny someone a job because they have a felony, unless it directly effects their employment (retail=theft) but they just find another bs reason to not hire you. Same thing would happen with the tattoo bill in my opinion 🤷‍♀️

I’m sorry but everyone knows what is societally acceptable and what isn’t. We all make the choices. I’m sorry but like come on. A tattoo addiction is not like an addiction to a substance. This girls not going to go through physical withdrawal without them.

Melissa has problems with poor decision making in general. Tattoos are only one reason why she isn't getting hired. It's the hair, the teeth, the clothing. All reflect poor decision making abilities.

Choices, we all have them and I think people know this long before getting tattoos. I believe you know it will be an issue long before you even get it.

Choosing not to hire someone because they have to wear a religious garment, dlor because they have dreadlocks - these would be discriminatory. Choosing not to hire someone because they have their face covered due to non-cultural/religious reasons would NOT be. When someone gets a tattoo or a percing they do so with the thought of "What if I don't get hired?" - hopefully they actually think that far ahead.

As someone who is heavily covered in tattoos, seeing how someone like Melissa constantly getting inked every 3 days per week deeply saddens me. At this point, it’s not about self expression anymore, but self harm. The jobs that she’s applying to have every right to turn her down, because she is not mentally sound enough to hold one (getting her face tatted up every week, the way she twists naratives..all of that). There was also a comment that mentioned that she a st George tattoo, which indiciates that she is far right, which also is a total jobstopper. Personally, I believe that she has a lot of issues going on, and she’s too far gone to really be considered stable, and everytime I see her face, it saddens me as well.

As far as I know, asking someone if they have kids during a job interview is illegal (in Australia) as it can then be used as a reason to not hire someone (the idea that they will be taking extra time off as their child/ren might get sick, or having in-flexible availability due to child rearing requirements like picking them up from school). With this in mind, for most people (though I understand not all) this is a choice. They chose to have children. But they are still protected against discrimination when it comes to job hunting. Maybe tattoos fall under the same type of logic. It's a choice, but people should be able to make choices that make them happy (especially when it only effects them like a tattoo) and not fear unemployment. Also if we make it easier for employers to say no to workers, we leave more people unemployed. Which for an economy and society is not good. I think it's a complicated issue, but I think if they can do the job, they deserve a chance at getting the work. But I think if they have offensive tattoos (eg. Racist imagery) it's a different matter.

The woman named Melissa has, in my opinion, the major problem, that she has a) no properly job-education with weakens her stand on top b) her tattoos look like badly made proson tattoos. I really assume that one with very estheticly oleasing,, well thought out designs has still chances, but her face is so full with designs that are random, not well made and artisticly not very thought out, that the only effect they have is, that ine can hardly see her face expressions through the splotches. Face tattos can be nice to look at amd still prevent you from getting a job, but when your tats look like you've gotten them in prison over like ten years, it gives ppl a insecure feeling. I think a good example are tribal face tattoos. They are thoughtful, aestheticly pleasing and with a distinct meaning thus do not make the wearer look like an ex-convict.

Regarding a bill to protect people with tattoos from hiring discrimination: I don't see how someone with a swastika tattoo in a visible part of their body needs to be a protected class for job hire 😅. Tattoo away. People just need to accept the consequences of their voluntary actions.

I just wanted to respond to all the tattoo artists that say tattoo laser removal is so painful. I’m sure it can be, but my experience was not at all! I went to a place in Phoenix Az. Called Delete. This was at least 10 plus years ago. They numbed the area for a very reasonable fee. I didn’t bleed, or even scab up. I highly recommend this facility!

Completely agree with you about the laws about tattoos thing. If your tattoos are religious or important to your ethnicity, I think they should be protected. That said. If a Christian goes and gets a tattoo of Jesus on the cross- is that now a religious tattoo? Christians have no history of being tattooed in their religion but the man with the tattoo could argue it’s religious. Hard say.

??????1 it is literally like "tattooing " "I'm an idiot" on your face

Please keep it in mind that most companies have a image to uphold and they can't afford to lose business because some people have decided to look a bit scary.

It’s a personal choice, what one person likes another finds repulsive. If you’re a business owner in the service industry having a heavily “prison style” tattooed face as your greeter or wait staff could actually be counterproductive and harm your business. I know it’s not fair, life’s not fair and we all have struggles. Maybe she can find a job that doesn’t have her dealing with the public, she may have to aim lower, telemarketer, call centre, etc. Especially (if I heard correctly), if she’s never had a job before…..how does that work? There are options that won’t put you in the public eye, we all know there’s going to be some crazy out there, flipping out and causing a scene because they don’t feel that a tattoo is art. I know tattoo’s are addictive, I love them, I’m up to 8 tattoos so far and I’ll finish sleeving out my arms this year, but my neck and upwards is off limits, I’m not against face art, but it’s not anything I would want, that’s my personal choice. 🏢

🏢 hope i picked the right emoji, i agree about a law should not protect extreme tattoo's, but definately thankful our society has came a long way in accepting tattoos in everyday life, as far as tribal heritage tattoo it should be protected , and i would hire both of them if i were a business owner and not discriminate because of their personal choice to get face tattoos. thanks for your videos

Gets a horrible tattoo on the entire face, can't find a proper job. Wow I'm so surprised. 🙄 If you decide to do this you know the risks which include limiting yourself only to certain jobs. Seriously, tattoo artists should decline such petitions because no one in their right mind would ask for it.

Passing laws about what you can and can't reject a potential employee for will never work. 99.9% of the time they don't tell you why you weren't hired anyway and it's so that they can discriminate however they want without legal repercussions