when i saw reed i swear the first thought was “what will nando think of this”

On the one hand, I totally agree, but on the other hand, this IS the perfect opportunity for Krasinski to play a flawed, arrogant character that is totally different from his usual roles. I think it could go either way.

Personally, liked John as older Reed who’s more settled down and human but Mr Fantastic is actually pretty arrogant and calculated sometimes and as Nando mentioned, serious. Reed is someone I imagine to be the type of person to look at anyone who isn’t his immediate family as statistics and variables in a problem he needs to solve. He is impulsive in his need to solve every one of the universe’s problems and is sort of unhealthily in love with science. Reed will be building or finding something very dangerous, people will tell him not to use it, and then he’s gonna go behind their backs and use it anyway just for science. If John can play a younger main mcu version of Mr Fantastic and they actually find cool ways for him to use his powers (shape shifting, density shifting, disguising) he could definitely work.

The biggest moment for Mr Fantastic for me is when, in Marvel 1601 or whatever, the Niel Gaiman comic that takes place in colonial America, Dr Doom has him locked away. They go to talk to him and he just straight up asks Doom if he thinks light might function both as a particle AND a wave. Dude is imprisoned and is spending his time inventing Einsteins theories a couple of centuries early. Hes infinitely curious, to a fault.

It was the smartest move to cast him here so he can be a one and done. We get our fan casting dream, but now another actor can play him in the regular universe

I am still pulling hard for Glenn Howerton as Reed Richards. His work on IASIP and AP Bio proves he can pull of a sociopath and an academic flawlessly.

This feels like a casting decision you make when you don't want to use that actor for the main universe

Honestly, I’m also hoping Kransinki isn’t the official MCU Reed Richards. In terms of performance, I thought Kransinki was a bit bland and didn’t leave much of impression. More importantly, however, I just thought introducing the new Reed Richard this way was weird. Not only does Kransinki have no interesting/fun action or character beat to endear the audience to him but then he just dies two minutes after we meet him? Why should we care about this character or feel that he’s any kind of threat? To me, they should’ve just brought back Ioan Gruffin to cameo as Reed in this movie. We at least know that Reed a little bit, it’d be yet another nice nod to the Fox Superhero Universe and killing him off would’ve been fine since it’s VERY unlikely that Reed would ever be used again.

Definitely not my first choice but he might grow on me if he comes back for the main MCU F4. Can't say I'm not intrigued by him playing a Veteran Reed Richards in Earth 838. I can only imagine what the rest of the F4 looks like.

I believe John Krasinski would be an effective choice emotionally. You've laid out that he doesn't really play complex characters with flaws, and I think that can be used against us. We would all feel betrayed when he inevitably causes some of the biggest issues in the MCU because he was too curious or too arrogant. Not married to him being brought back for the role, and I instantly felt like this was "Here you go, have the thing you want. Ok we're gonna do something else now", but thinking of it in this new light has opened me up to the possibility and I wouldn't be disappointed in his casting.

That moment when he talked about all those lines on the costumes I finally felt heard lol If the 60s sci fi aesthetic is leotards and spandex, then the 2010s/2020s sci fi aesthetic is Tron and sports bra material for some reason.

I think the main traits youre referring to are more on the writing than Krasinski, with a strong character foundation (like the one established in the first Cap movie for example) I could see Krasinski excelling at the role

I really liked Ioan Gruffudd as Mr. Fantastic (wish he’d been in this). Reed differs from Tony. He’s got a high IQ and a low EQ. (Tony’s just arrogant.) It’s not so much “I’ll do this because I can” as it is “I’ll do this to advance the cause of Science!” He only learns to come out of his bubble because of his family. I thought Ioan captured that perfectly.

I did like John as Mr. Fantastic, but for this cameo, I think they should have gone with Ioan Gruffudd as that would have classed as the FOX MCU so they were all connected. They should have had Tom Cruise as Iron Man and replaced all the actors who were in a different universe - it just would have been more coherent with the question: why do all the Spider-Men look different, but Dr. Strange and Wanda look the same in a different universe?

Mostly I think we're going to need a younger Reed than Krasinski, to separate him from the other self-important geniuses like Stark and Strange.

I think it would be very cool if the mcu brought back Ioan Gruffudd as Reed Richards but not as Mr Fantastic, but as The Maker

I honestly would like to have relatively young f4 as well as xmen, cause we have enough old characters and we need “new blood”, but not teenagers (Chavez, Bishop etc) u know We need new cornerstones in my opinion

I think Ioan Gruffudd should have reprised his role as Reed Richards since every other member of the Illuminati had previously played a character in a Marvel film.

I feel like the Krasinski casting here is a nice way to give the fans what they wanted, even if they don't plan on it being the long term choice.

I would argue Johns character in the office is flawed. He flirted with an engaged woman until she left her fiance. He's constantly bullying his coworker. And very rarely does any work until like season 4. But he's funny so we over look a lot of that

Gotta say as soon as I saw him I said "oh man..." and then I saw him die and said "ok but maybe 616 will be a different actor"

To give more specific angle to your point: One of Reed’s classic flaws is that he doesn’t always put his family first, which leads to many conflicts with Sue and his kids. Jim in the office, his character in A Quiet Place for example ALWAYS put their relationship and family first (an offshoot of the “nice American boy trope”).

I had a thought... what if the MCU Reed was someone younger with a bit more "mad scientist" energy, like, say, Nicholas Huolt, and then Krasinski comes back as an older, seemingly sager Reed that turns out to be the Maker, the Ultimate Reed that went crazy and evil? Or maybe THAT'S the Reed they need Glenn Howerton for...

After Wolverine I’d love to see your picks for an Inhumans reboot movie. Here are mine Black Bolt: Henry Cavill Medusa: Rebecca Ferguson Maximus: Adam Driver Crystal: Juno Temple Gorgon: Omar Sy Karnak: Riz Ahmed Triton: Ncuti Gatwa

I think Michael Fassbender would honestly be perfect in this role. I know he already played Magneto, but really who cares? Oscar Isaac played Apocalypse, and now he's a perfect fit as Moon Knight.

He's an actor, so many of the MCU cast have had roles that are so different from their MCU counterparts. Give the guy a chance.

Hold on now, Jack Ryan isn't a "flawed" character? They clearly say in the first episode that he has back problems.

I really don’t get why so many people are disappointed with this movie. Not everything needs to be the next Endgame or No Way Home. I quite like that it focussed on characters a bit more. The superhero multiverse backdrop was exactly where it should be in a movie: in the background. I think people are starting to forget that the reason we liked the marvel movies in the first place was because of the characters in them.

He seemed just a little stiff and wooden to me, but that could be because of that character growth? Maybe he needs another go, as another non-616 Reed, but maybe he’s not right for this one

I don’t feel like you can get an exact read on Krazinskis Reed(pun somewhat intended) from the small amount of time he had on screen and speaking. You can infer a bit from the little glimpses at his backstory but he didn’t get a change to do or say anything really reed Richards-esque. If we get him again we just need a writer and director that understand the character as I’m sure John can play him well enough

When I saw the way they flipped a lot of character relationships with Captain Carter rather than Steve, Mordo as the sorcerer supreme rather than Stephen, and Maria rather than Carol, I thought that Krazinsky as Thing rather than Reed fit way better and is well planted by the idea of these flips. Do I think they'll do that, not really, but it's on my mind.

I kinda wanted a lawful evil version of the Illuminati. I’d have The Maker version of Mr Fantastic, Superior Iron Man, Dr Strange Supreme from What If (kinda wanted him to be possessed by Shuma-Gorath, since he absorbed the powers of some sort of eldritch tentacle monster), Emma Frost from the X-Men movies, House of X version of Xavier, Namor and some sort of evil version of Black Bolt. I’m fine with what we got. They just felt a bit underwhelming.

As someone who watches both Nando and Some More News, I never expected a video that would somehow bridge these two fandoms lol

It feels like people are a little too eager to knock what is essentially a cameo when the guy has proven himself a capable actor time and again

6:35 - The correct pronunciation of “Gruffudd” is like “Griffith”, but with a TH like in the word “the”

I'd love to see the past X-Men actors from the fox X-Men movies come back through the multiverse in the classic 90s X-Men costumes

“The biggest threat to the multiverse…is Dr. Strange.” *looks at the camera nonchalantly*

Thank you for giving credit where credit is due and shouting out mah boys Ryan Meinerding and Andy Park (plus all the other guys from the concept art department), they're a crucial part of the movies and should be regarded as fathers of the MCU as much as all the directors and producers who have given life to this universe. Those guys are idols.

I would love Glenn Howerton to pull off that arrogant side of Reed. John's a solid pick visually but his personality is a bit too tame imo

From a casting perspective, this cameo was perfect. MCU gets to dip its feet in the ocean without committing. People love the Kraz man? Great he was always gonna be mr fantastic. People aren’t really feeling him? That’s okay. He was only there as a variant.

The best thing ever would be if Dwight ends up being our Mr. Fantastic

I feel like MoM should be treated as an audition for main universe Reed for John and he did not impress. People can excuse it and say he isn't playing the standard version of Reed we know in the comics but I still think he displayed how he wouldn't be a great fit to be the choice for a main Reed. There are many other actors who can bring that arrogance and the complex apathetic empathy that the character is known for.

It took everything in me to not jump out of my seat when I saw him and thank Kevin Fiege to the heavens

I think John LOOKS like a perfect Reed Richards, but his performance was wooden because he was literally told to recite lines to a camera! If he had actual people to interact with, I have no doubt he'd do an amazing job! We shouldn't judge him based on dumb covid movie filming procedures.

I don't think it's entirely right that he's never played a nerd. Jim from The Office is definitely one of the 'cooler' people in that office full of weirdos but he's 100% a nerd. His dorky qualities are a large part of why Pam likes him, as opposed to her previous more jock-y boyfriend. That said, I totally agree with everything else.

I’ll admit that I didn’t quite get where you were coming from initially, but after seeing the film, I get it. We can do better because I would wanna see Reed grow whereas we see this Reed more or less at the end of his journey Edit: I wouldn’t be surprised if the legit version of Reed and Sue aren’t initially married when they arrive in the MCU. And it’s more like this gradual love story between the two which ends with them finding out Sue is pregnant.

Dad Richards is such an important Reed

While I completely disagree with your thoughts on Krasinski as Reed, I see honestly see Reed. I see a man who loves his family more than anything but he's too reserved, quiet and cold.

Is it confirmed he is going to be The Fantastic Four Reed Richard in the movie? I thought he was a variant, a cameo by a wanted star but not a definitive cast choice.

As someone who loves the Fantastic Four, I definitely see your point and respect your perspective on this. However, I think you're too focused on specific parts of the character. Yes Reed is nerdy and flawed, but he also is the quarterback of a superhero team. And regardless of if they start out early in his career, Reed was always a family man. He was a brother to Ben, a mentor to Johnny and a husband to Sue. Just because he doesn't have kids yet doesn't mean the family man qualities Krasinski has go to waste. I think you're putting too much importance on how Krasinski acts in real life and the roles he's done before. Just because he hasn't played a smart character before doesn't mean he can't. I agree he hasn't played exactly Reed before, but he would excel in the leadership and family roles MCU Reed would require. Because honestly, I think we have to be realistic and make peace with the fact that MCU Reed is not going to be portrayed as unlikable. That's just not how the MCU operates with its leading men, and although I think its something I would want for the character, I would guess they're going to lean into the family angle as quickly as possible. And thats what Krasinski would excel at.

I never saw John Krazinski as Reed Richards and even kinda smiled when Wanda made string cheese

I dunno. I may be misremembering, but I recall that Kraczinski (sic) actually wanted the role. And to me, that goes a long way towards being right for it. If you want the role, you make sure you’re the right actor for the job. And what I saw in Strange is that he’s got the right core material for the character. He didn’t get a lot of time to really get into Reed, but what we saw felt right to me. I’d love to see him get a real shot at the character, and hey, have Attilan be a part of a Fantastic Four movie so we can also continue Inhuman redemption.

As a person with adhd, I’m advocating for the MCU’s Reed Richards to have adhd. Make him hyper focus on a project and neglect his health and relationships sometimes, only for Sue Storm to lay a hand on his shoulder and bring him back to reality. Have him be impulsive, have him fidget with stuff on his desk, show him masking when he’s spiraling because of his intense fear of rejection and failure but pushing ahead in spite of it because he’s still brave. Have his only friend in college be Ben Grimm because he has trouble maintaining relationships, and Ben’s the only one who’s willing to stick around because he too finds relationships hard at times. Give us some canonical adhd representation in the MCU!

I'm not that deep into the comics lore, so can someone explain how Reed Richards is different than RDJ's Tony Stark? Seems like Nando is just describing Stark without the snarky one-liners.

What in getting from this is that Fitz in Agents of Shield is basically the best version of Reed Richards. He's a nerdy, likable guy that initially comes across as harmless, but secretly knows he's the smartest guy in the room and that gives him an ego. He's willing to do morally grey things sometimes and ignores advice from others in order to get the job done. He's also the most interesting character on the show, and similar to Reed in the comics, he's had mental breakdowns in the past and we've even seen other timelines where he goes evil, just like Reed Richards.

ngl I'm so glad I avoided spoilers and rumors! the 2 biggest moments for me were when reed richards appeared and the first thing I thought was "nando would've gone crazy!" :D and the other one was when professor x referenced a quote from my favourite x-men movie! they could've gone the easy way and have him quote the first installment or the most beloved one (x-2) but they decided to pick a quote from DOFP, the (imo) best x-men movie!

It was Kevin F’s way of saying “Nope, let the experts cast”

i don’t think i’ve ever disagreed with nando, he literally explained exactly how i thought about john playing this character

It's fine if they all skew older, but I really don't want a 20 year age difference between Sue and Johnny. So I'm afraid they're going to all be aged up and not have that same interaction with Parker. Beardless John can definitely still pass for mid 30s though. Telling the bulk of their story during the Snap could help a lot.

Basically Krasinski is like your college friend while Reed is closer to your professor.

I’d love to see your take on the Inhumans being reintroduced to the MCU, who would you keep? Who would you recast? How would you do it?

I'm glad you brought up that it's important that Reed was warm. People always just think of him as a cold and arrogant scientist when that's not really the case at all. His biggest mistakes come about *because* of his emotions and need to protect his family and others around him.

I think something clever to potentially do is adapt Ultimate Reed's multiverse telephone thing. He would use it occasionally to get advice from 616-Reed/someone a lot like 616-Reed, who at the time was a lot like how Krasinski's Reed is presented, a family man renowned as one of his universe's greatest heroes (if I'm remembering Ultimate Fantastic Four correctly). That way, we get a young Reed in the main MCU learning how to be a hero in his own right while potentially also occasionally bouncing ideas off Krasinski's fully-formed "modern" Reed. Might be confusing for general audiences but I think it could work alright.

I wanna see John's 'maker' more than his actual reed

Tom Ellis is my perfect Reed Richards. I’ve never seen him play a nerd for a role (though I’ve not seen all his work), but watching his interviews it seems like something he could easily do. Lucifer in Lucifer reminds me a lot of Reed. Sure, he flirts a lot, but he has a lot of the other characteristics down. He’s focused on one main goal, doing what he thinks he should do, even if it goes entirely against what everyone else says, to complete that goal. He rubs almost everyone the wrong way in the beginning, but has grown more considerate and thoughtful. He’s also incredibly arrogant. Seeing as he is the devil, he believes that he can do whatever he wants, and often isn’t able to. If given the chance and the right script, I really believe Tom Ellis could be the best Reed Richards to date.

I think for Reed to work you need to think away from the comics. The character traits youve described have been seen too much in Tony Stark, Dr Strange and Cptn Marvel. The empathy Krasinski brings is a breathe if fresh air. He can still make the tough desicions but Krasinski will bring the weight of it in his performance. Plus he can bring that distant thoughtfulness as he tries to think through every problem to fix everything- because its clear he cares

I like how you mention that there will be spoilers when the biggest spoiler is already in the thumbnail and title.

I know this is a lot of Sams but bare with me. My take on the F4 cast: Reed Richards: Jamie Dornan Sue Storm: Samara Weaving Johnny Storm: Sam Claflin Ben Grimm: Sam Worthington The ensamble looks awesome in my head. I even put their pictures next to each other and they look perfect.

I dunno. my ideal Mr.Fantasic is a 60s style, straight-laced, clean shaven, stick-in-the-mud type of character. Like, he's literally the most flexible man in the world but he's also super uptight.

I have no idea who should play Reed in our main universe but I loved for a while the idea of bringing back Miles Teller as the Maker. Maybe make the movies some version of the Ultimate universe.

I’m waiting so patiently for this wolverine video and NANDO DROPS THIS BANGER!!

I feel like some of the things you talked about with Reed have actually been portrayed before by John Krasinski on the office. Although he's never played the type of dork who would be into science and statistics, there were many times on the office when Jim nerded out about Basketball history and sports and stuff, which can be nerdy. There were many times when one of Jim's pranks backfired and he ended up with egg on his face. Many times as well Jim's coworkers actually hated him or just really didn't like him. In the last few seasons of the show one of the characters, Meredith, actually talks on occasion about what she doesn't like about Jim.

Here's my take: Krasinski is a great actor. The problem he faced is a problem that a lot of Marvel productions are facing these days, and that is the fact that he was facing a blank screen. He had nobody to act with or play off. You can't expect an actor to do their best work if they're just surrounded by nothingness. Actors need sets and coworkers. But for the sake of maintaining secrecy and surprise, Marvel Studios are sacrificing art. I think Krasinski could have been great if he were actually in a room talking to Benedict or Elizabeth.

I don't understand why people are only capable of seeing actors perform a certain kind of role, if they've performed a certain kind of role before. We would be deprived of Ledger's Joker if people could only see actors doing certain kinds of roles that they've done before.

I like this casting because it's a way for Marvel/Feige to have their cake and eat it, too: they can have the fancast of Mr. Fantastic and then go ahead and then cast whomever they *actually* want for the mainline MCU/616 universe. They'll get some backlash for sure but when do they not? They can be like "SEE! We did the thing y'all wanted so be quiet now"

I feel like we did not see enough from him but personally I really liked what we did see and hope he plays him in the future

Loves your videos

Would be fun to see you recast iconic roles in the MCU! Like who except for Kieran Culkin would play a new Loki?

I'm really hoping for Glenn Howerton personally. He could really capture Reed's ego, and his obsession with science and new discoveries.

Bryce Dallas Howard is rumored to be playing Sue Storm and to direct the movie

Captain midnight had a similar take, but he argued that the performance as a whole was wrong, and that we shouldn't see Krasinski again in the MCU. I agree much more with your take on this than I do his. I think he did a lot right, but I also understand how it might be a bit of a risk to put him in the role of a younger Reed.

It'll be like if Chris Evans plays Tony Stark. I know he'll try his best, but it just won't feel right.

Just the fact that you referenced some more news made me happy

Finding out Nando also watches Some More News makes me like you even more!

I took this casting as confirmation John isn't going to play Reed in the MCU. Like they were giving fans what they wanted but it isn't the main plan

2nd opinion: 838 Reed already has everything figured out, im confident were gonna get a 616 Reed origin story that sets all of it up, and hes such an amazing actor that i personally believe he will absolutely crush a younger more naïve reed Richards that has to learn from his mistakes, just like tony had to in age of ultron

The only pitfall I see in a Reed Richards who knows he’s the smartest guy in the room and therefore has a hard time with the interpersonal part of life because he’s a bit arrogant and condescending who then learns to be a better person allowing him to connect to the people closest to him in a more significant way, is that it comes dangerously close to just being another Tony Stark/Stephen Strange. Comic accurate? Yes. Retread ground? Also yes.

I think Marvel should take some elements from Matt Reeves’ Batman movie where we get an entirely different version of the character, only this time we apply it to Mr. Fantastic. Not tortured or anything, but different

Ok, so my problem with this take is it sounds like you want Reed Richards as another "great flawed white man" character. These sorts of characters are fine, but the MCU was built around one (Tony Stark) who basically passed that mantle over to Dr. Strange. The last thing I want is yet another one of those characters. And let's not even mention that Charles Xavier is the same character! So basically, what I'm saying it, if Marvel is going to bring these characters to the MCU I think they are going to have to bring them in with a different spin or else things are going to get monotonous.

But what if Rainn Wilson, aka Dwight Schrute, ends up playing Reed in our universe? I can see it working. No! Better yet, he's Dr Doom in the Krasinski universe!

I really like John’s portrayal in this film because I feel like his warmth made his arrogance more palatable. He thought he knew better than Stephen and even though our strange was scared of Wanda, Reed had the arrogance to say, no, you are a bigger threat, and he didn’t listen. He also had the arrogance to think that when he told Wanda that Blackbolt could destroy her, that she wouldn’t destroy them first, which is exactly what she did. So, I think John actually could do a great job, but I also thought that as you were describing everything, all I could picture was BJ Novak‘s character, Ryan from The Office, so maybe John could channel a little bit of that or we just get BJ Novak in the role! 😂

The first thing I thought when I saw it was "I wonder what nando thinks about this?"

I read at most two comics of the fantastic four, I clarify that before starting. I saw dr strange, and I saw this version of mr fantastic. and as a character I absolutely bought him, I think the actor proved to be a bit of a nerd in the oficce, but I never saw him as a don juan, his personality doesn't let him, and in this movie, I saw the face of a character that doesn't tremble when it comes to making tough decisions but at the same time feeling the emotional pain, Krasinski gave all that intensity in just two scenes. I think that in a movie where there are four main characters, plus the villain, he would shine as an actor too. but only with that face would he be a pillar as a leader. It's all in the eyes I think.

Saying ‘I’ve never seen this actor play this type of role before therefore bad’ isn’t a valid reason btw

I gotta say Nando, normally you are pretty spot on with your character analysis, but you have Reed Richards all wrong. He isn't the nerd, but rather the archetypical handsome, strong and capable science adventure man (TM,C,R) from the B-movies of the 50's and 60's. An idealized image of the wealthy, well educated and brave western man. I think the better conflict for Reed in the MCU would be that anachronistic worldview projected on to the modern world of the current MCU. This is also the reason why I think the FF origin has to be firmly rooted in the 50's, with some clever writing to displace them into the present day. Black holes warp space-time, so make that part of their origin, so that they can jump 70 years into the present without really aging. and while they orbited the black hole, they got hit with cosmic rays or something like that.

Loved the Some More News shoutout!

I beleive later on in the office specifically around the later seasons when the relationship with Pam became more strained we were able to see an almost flawed character with how he was balancing his work life and family balance but I do agree we need to see him play a role like this to a higher degree

There are few things I love more than channels that I absolutely love, like this one, shouting out other channels that I absolutely love, like Some More News. Collab? lol

My biggest worry about Krasinski being Reed long-term is that he doesn't feel very dynamic. I mean dang, MoM had horror elements and was always moving. Yet he didn't bring nearly enough of that weight we got in A Quiet Place. The performances in the MCU you can describe in a lot of ways, but definitely never static. They have energy to them. Even the non-quipsters like Evans, Chadwick and Karen Gillan. I'm not watching an F4 where the guy called "Mr. Fantastic" is doing potentially world-changing research with the energy of an HR director reading employee complaints.

I just don’t get having a spoiler warning when the thumbnail has John Krasinski as Mr. Fantastic