Wonder Woman: *is on screen for .2 seconds* Movie:AAAAHAHAAAAAAAAHAAAAAHAAHAAAAAAAA

"Manhunter is Golden age slang for detective" finally answers for me the longstanding question of what his name is supposed to imply. Thank you.

Making a 2 hour version of Zacks version? Don’t tempt me bro.

Perhaps the real League was the Justice we made along the way.

Aquaman: I'm out Villagers: let us sing the songs of our people for several minutes

Barry saving Iris seems like a scene that would be better saved for a Flash movie. Feels like a few scenes should have been shuffled around. Like, that scene of a janitor running into a parademon and getting killed might have been more effective if we didn't see an army of parademons previously. The scene of Aquaman rescuing that guy from the boat could have been his introduction. Minor stuff like that.

"You can call me The Martha Manhunter." "WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?" "Eh, well it was my mother's name. Manhunter. Anna Manhunter."

The one good thing about Joker: Jared Leto's performance reminds me of Tommy Wiseau.

There is a 2 hour and 45 minute cut that flows the best. There would be a two hour cut if we had Cyborg's and Flash's movies before this movie.

Really liked how Cyborg was the heart of the story and had a big part in the finale, same as Flash. However, I definitely would want a more simplified version look for Cyborg with a bit more color. Steppenwolf and Cyborg have a Michael Bay's Transformers vibe to them.

In all honesty, I think the best way to handle Martian Manhunter's introduction here... is for him to give his actual name. Have him introduce himself as J'onn J'onzz, and at some point (not necessarily even in this movie), have someone else start calling him the 'Martian Manhunter' - especially if he gets a movie set in the '40s as suggested (which would, in fact, be awesome).

The best way I’ve seen the Snyder Cut described is, the story of how it came to be is more interesting than the movie itself. Like if we got this movie the first time around, we could take it or leave it, but it feels so much bigger now due to the road to bringing it to life.

I read on twitter that Zack Snyder originally wanted Green Lantern John Stewart but WB didn't allow it. Snyder still wanted to include another POC hero in the movie so he had to go for Martian Manhunter instead.

Wonder Woman - Does anything Soundtrack - Ancient Lamentation plays

I like it when Flash grabbed the glizzy

Watching this movie as its own without EVER having seen the 2017 Justice League was quite the experience

It’s quite literally my favorite DCEU Film right now

Imagine waking up from an apocalyptic nightmare then meeting an alien introduce himself as MARTIAN MAN HUNTER

Re: Act 3 big super hero moment: “If you’ve seen the movie, you know exactly what I’m talking about”... I actually don’t know what he’s talking about... is it Barry?

I could not stop seeing HBO Ozymandias every time Alfred walked into frame.

The Norweigean people are actually Icelandic and are speaking Icelandic, also of the three women in the front at 4:54 the one on the right is Ágústa Eva who competed at eurovision in the early 2000’s Another ester egg, she was also my kidnergarten teacher

Also should Martian Manhunter help out in the world-ending conflict? Seems very cowardly. He shows up at the end, saying: "hey if something like this, but not this, happens again, I may stop by to help out a little."

Part of why you go to a superhero movie is because you like the characters and you want to watch them fight. Wonder Woman was literally blocking bullets with her gauntlets and standing a foot in front of those hostages saving their lives, was amazing. This scene showed how she's inspires others from the little girl asking her if she could be like her when she grows up

i absolutely hated the conversation with flash and batman about “saving just one”, because i feel barry is just so instinctively protective that he would just try to help in anyway

7:14 I've seen the movie 3 times and I have NO IDEA what moment you're talking about here

I love how Nando's "Hot take" about the post apocalyptic ending is exactly how basically everyone feels

I think this may have been the most honest take on the Snyder Cut and I really appreciate it. Thank you Nando V Movies.

As a 4 hour movie, this movie competes with things like Wrestlemania and Wrestle Kingdom.

We've had a lot of superhero movies over the last decade where a character's Superhero Name was never even said out loud, and it was fine. If there was ever a character where that should've applied, it's Martian Manhunter. And they did it so on the nose. I didn't actually know that "manhunter" was a term for private detective, though. And now I want a solo movie of John Jones as P.I. that's a period piece that actually contextualizes that terminology.

It’s SO simple. make Flashpoint. When it’s done, change everything that didn’t work. Keep everything that did, and then just keep the DCEU going forever

This was a great movie experience for me. The only issues i had the film was 1. The dialogue at certain parts of the film. 2. The constant use of the Wonder Woman's theme every time she had an action sequence on camera. 3. The children singing as Aquaman dives into the ocean. 4. The last scene with Martian Manhunter was not necessary.

Truth be told Nando, I'm not sure that a 2-hour version of this film would even be fully coherent(it would be definitely better than what we got in 2017 though). I think that there's just too much that they need to cover in this one film; establishing 2-3 new characters and a lot of background. However, I do think it could definitely be trimmed down to about 2.5 - 3 hours(a lot of scenes that were just a little too long and some scenes that could easily be removed altogether).

If you play all the SLOMO scenes in this movie at regular speed it would be 45 min long.

5:01 and 7:01 HIGHLY disagree. They shot the arrow to warn Diana and send her to the ruins where the history of what happened in the past, resided. It was crucial to her character to introduce the information necessary for the rest of the movie. Aquaman scene at 7:01 was necessary to show the chip on his shoulder, that would eventually play out in the Aquaman movie. In this Justice League movie, it was to show his acceptance of his Atlantean culture and work with it against a single cause.

Having not seen either cut of this movie: strongly disagree that you can cut the Wonder Woman scene where she stops the terrorists at the bank. How many scenes are there, in either version, depict the heroes actually *saving* people? If we're cutting scenes with superheroes blocking bullets aimed at innocent people and tossing bombs into the sky at the last second, we're cutting what makes them superheroes in the first place. Anyway, keep up the interesting content!

i believe Martian Manhunter didn't fit in, and all this footage that didn't fit, but I just viewed it as Snyder's bonus clips. He put all of the footage on the table, probably knowing he won't get this chance again. That's the perspective I get from this. Still a good to great film!

THANK YOU FOR NOT BEING AFRAID TO SPEAK YOUR MIND....literally every other youtuber who covered this was scared of backlash

My primary takeaway is this: I want a four hour Guardians cut. Release the #NandoCut

I watched it in one sitting and my first thought was “that was really good but it didn’t need to be 4 hours”

7:14 So pretty sure I know what scene Nando is talking about also Spoilers It's the scene where Barry goes faster then the speed of light to save everyone.

Extra long scene like saving iris. Those are for the fans, they were really cool. And since it came out on streaming it is perfect, you can pause it and get food you know.

Can't wait until the flash movie, when he meets Iris for the first time again.

You can easily watch it in 2 sittings, and the movie is very cohesive this way.

I'm not a Snyder fan by any means, but most of the stuff before the dream sequence crap at the end makes for a pretty damn good movie. If it was trimmed down to 3 hours, I'd love it.

It’s an improvement over the theatrical cut (save for a handful of moments), as the characters have more dignified personalities and Cyborg gets his character arc back. However, judged solely on its own merits, I think it’s just fine. It’s watchable enough and has solid acting and cinematography, but the story doesn’t have much to write home about.

How about a video on Lex Luther isn’t Lex Luther in the DCEU?

I think the volko scene is necessary to explain why Arthur goes to Atlantis a place he hates

If there was a sixth not nice thing I’d say, Superman did not need to come back to life in this movie. I get that he’s supposed to be their Godzilla threshold against Steppenwolf, but he never really seemed all that tough and they already had three heavy hitters anyway. So when Superman shows up to clobber Steppenwolf, it feels less like the tables have turned and more just another character to beat the crap out of him. In fact, Supes got some major plot armor in that scene because Steppenwolf’s ax should’ve cut him in half. Superman’s invulnerability has never been that strong before. But even then, it felt like Superman returning to life required its own film. Having him return with like 30 or so minutes left felt like a waste of a good idea.

Flash using the speed force tho 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 fucking legendary

I’d probably make a 3 hour version as the “Theatrical Cut” version of this and then release this 4 hour version as an Extended Cut. The only scenes I’m positive I’d cut are the villagers singing about Aquaman, the Iris West scene(she never appears or is mentioned again so a little pointless), and the whole Knightmare sequence. Just giving someone any ideas if you want to make that kind of version.

I think the first half of the film can be trimmed down. There were a lot of dull spots, the second half of the movie was solid and keeps my attention pretty well.

Idk if anyone else felt this way, but the manhunter scene, especially where he says his name, it feels to me at lot like the scene in Star Trek: Into Darkness where Khan goes "my name... is khan" and then we the audience are supposed to go like oooOOOOooh and the characters just stand there like "ok cool is that supposed to mean something"

Martian Manhunter, the Swiss Army knife of superheroes, was looking at things from afar and then saying thanks afterwards instead of........joining them??? Imagine Captain Marvel at the end of Infinity War being like “Oh I wasn’t far into space, I was getting a latte. Thanks for trying tho. You guys looked great.”

Why does it have to be 2 hours? It can be 3 hours. Endgame was 3 hours and it was great.

This is exactly how I felt about the movie as well. I would only add the pet cemetery bit when Superman attacks. Not the buildup to it but just the one line the Flash says. It's only a couple seconds, it's hilarious and if you someone doesn't get the joke it's done already so they shouldn't care. If that was tossed in there I would be happy too. Great vid.

I feel like people still have hype goggles with this movie. Don't get me wrong, I definently think it's better than the Joshtice League, but it suffers from some of the same problems the Joshtice League does. For example, StepenWolf, while better than in the Joshtice League, is still pretty bad, he went from Malekith do...something better than Malekith. And that's without mentioning the more...personally bad stuff, like Snyder's directorial style, which is being praised in this while hated in Snyder's other movies by the same people. Again, I definently think it's better than Joshtice League, and as Nando said, even though the whole Twitter thing and fans was...weird to say the least, I am happy for Zack. I just believe people aren't seeing it's flaws because of all the hype it had and how it delivered on being better than the Joshtice League. As for the duration thing...I mean, i definently think a Snyder Cut - Cut would be awesome, but as someone who watches every Thursday 3-5 hour DnD show...yeah, I don't mind that much.

Here is my take on the black suit : if you want to make a black and white version, don't make a COLOR CHANGE that important to your movie

There’s so much restraint coming from this man, trying to express that it isnt a great movie, but also trying to avoid upsetting the mega fans of this cut XD

This movie never existed. I recall reading a story saying it was "unwatchable". Whatever this movie would've been it has changed through time, hindsight and changing sensibilities. It's definitely nothing like the movie that would've come out if Zack had made it originally. I think he still indulges some of his worst instincts. Like excessive slo mo and overlong scenes. Given that he made this without the studio because it was going to streaming you can be sure they would've involved themselves much more in a cut that would have gone to theatres.

I loved the whole thing, and I never watched the theatrical release. That said, these are excellent criticisms, and I agree with every single one. I absolutely WOULD love a series set in the post-apocalyptic future, but it's gotta go a different route than, say, Injustice.

My #1 gripe is the warrior scream that they played EVERY SECOND that wonder woman was on screen

huge dc fan, massive martian manhunter fan, and whilst the snyder cut was great id still give it a 6/10, but considering id give the original 2/10 its aa huge improvent

I’m glad they improved the flash and cyborg scenes, but Jesus Christ, the flash suit is gonna kill me

I don't have much of an issue with the black suit because the first thing Superman does with it, is go straight to space to recharge (fulfilling in the main intended purpose for it being in the black color). If that scene was not there and he immediately went for Steppenwolf, then it would be just a color change with no other purpose to suggest in the "show not tell category". I agree that ZSJL can be edited down from 4 hours. Take out the epilogue, some of the indulgent character scenes (like the Aquaman one you mentioned) and the slow mo scenes, I do believe we could have gotten around a coherent 3 hour theatrical cut of this movie even in 2017. I personally enjoyed watching it and at least felt there was a purpose/through-line from MoS, BvS Ultimate and now with ZSJL to how characters were portrayed. It made sense to me.

Well Martian Manhunter was supposed to be Green Lanterns Hal Jordan and John Stewart

I saw this movie in black and white and so I didn't even know that Supes was in the black suit till now. Geeze, they really just thought we'd all fan-swoon at that. Missed the mark by a long shot.

I couldn't have reviewed this video better myself. Perfect amount of harshness on the Martian Manhunter thing, and I love that character!! I'm so hyped I'm avout to go sign up for curiosity stream and then head to patreon lol

"I dont want to spoil this really cool thing happening in the finale" keeps on talking about the last 15 minutes that come after that scene lol

about martian manhunter: do you think he's impersonating a general because of the CW Supergirl version?

This is the first review where I’ve agreed with EVERYTHING said! Specifically I don’t get the love fest for Barry Allen and shoehorning in Martian Manhunter

To be honest, I don't think the "parts" are meant as chapters, but meant as pause time, like interludes at the opera: but instead of one interlude between two sections, we had like 5 interludes between the 6 parts.

Can we talk about how the Martian Martha scene took away Batman agency in bringing Lois to the Superman fight, meaning that Bruce ignored the advice from future self? He never saved Lois and the ending Wastland scene means nothing, because we se the future created by ignoring the advice, like in this one. Also, I want a Wasteland Batman film

I literally forgot that favrou was in dare devil. So stark stole happy from matt. 😂

I swear to christ how we are still acting that a 4hr movie is "too long" and "too big of a committment" I just don't understand given our current day culture's obsession with binging watching.

Still waiting for the WW84 rewrite...

"No spoilers, but if you've seen the movie, you know what I'm talking about!" I have no idea what you're talking about. 'It's at the end' really doesn't narrow it down.

This is a very fair review, but I feel like everyone is just ignoring how the plot of this cut of the movie makes no gosh dang sense. So Darkseid apparently came down to Earth thousands of years ago, got curbstomped, and then just forgot he left his cubes there until Superman screamed and woke them back up? And by this movie's depiction, he was defeated pretty easily in the past, so why were the Amazons so nervous about him returning? What was with the room with the murals depicting this whole event? Did Diana not know it happened until she read the murals? Why would nobody tell her about it if this was such an important even in Amazon history? It would have generally made MUCH more sense to leave it as Steppenwolf failing in the past and then returning to finish what he started. It would have left Darkseid feeling like a more intimidating threat and would have given the villain more characterization. How did the Motherboxes know the Antilife Equation was on Earth? Did Darkseid know this at one point and forgot that too? Was that why he went to Earth originally? Did he just lose track of where Earth was? Why was Stepp's vision just mirrored footage of Darkseid's arrival on Earth earlier in the movie with Wolfie boy pasted over it? Martian Manhunter impersonating Martha is not only dumb, but it takes what could have been a really great character scene for those two characters and completely undermines it for no reason at all. There are definitely scenes that are better in this movie, but I can't say it's better than the original release when there's so much nonsense and pointless scenes weighing it down.

Alright. Time for me to make that edit. See you all in a couple months

my family watched this straight with no breaks at all. guess we got used to it from binge watching kdramas, which are usually 1hr per ep 😂

I hate the pose Ezra Miller makes when flash is about to run so much

Personally I’m not the biggest DC fan, some of the movies left a bad taste in my mouth, and I want to like DC. But I was surprised at how much I liked this movie

Ill be honest, when I saw the post apocalypse scene, I thought Snyder was trying to set up an Injustice-esque universe.

Would you mind listing all the scenes you would cut? I’m just curious (I may post them to a subreddit and see if someone can cut them up if I don’t)

One thing I really liked is how animalistic stephenwolf is. He looks like a shark/bull when fighting and that was amazing

Martian man hunter at the end was supposed to be Green Lantern, it Warner Brothers begged Zack Snyder to not use green lantern so instead he just used Martian Manhunter

“Bruce, the closest thing this movie has to a main character” Cyborg: Am I a joke to you?

I think calling it not a movie because it’s 4 hours long is a bit of an odd statement. Throughout the history of film, there have been movies of all lengths released, and the precedent that “a movie should be between 1hr30 and 2hrs30” was only really set in the 1980s. I do get that a shorter version could be useful for casual audiences, and I’ll say with complete confidence that if Zack Snyder has been able to complete the vision in 2017, that would have been the version, it would not have been this 4 hour epic we got this time around. But, the pacing does work, and you do get the impression that this is the raw version that Snyder wanted to release, if anything I think this might be a precedent for studios to be a little less apprehensive towards longer films going forward

15:35 is some continuities martian manhunter is a martian title/job kind of thing right?

Absolutely right! Superman, Batman, even WW....they just don’t feel like themselves to me.

This film had more endings then Return of the King. Also, the CGI is OK, I like the over the top cartoony design, they look good.

That WW stunt lady is amazing.... It wouldn't bother me if she completely replaced Gal.

17:50 can’t believe you’re doing a director’s cut (the Nando Cut, if you will) of this video!

I don't understand how some people can bear more than six hours of school dayly during so many years, but can't watch four hours of a nice movie.

I hope with streaming these days, more movies become longer. The 2hr movie is for theatres, now that theatres are phasing out we should make 4hr movies a new norm

Hey, what’s the name of the song at the beginning and ending of the video? I love watching deleted scenes. 9:08 The irony. Whatever happened to that guy, man? How did he forget?

What is the thing in the third act he refers to in this video?

I completely agree about Jared Leto. I've never liked him. I didn't take to his Dallas Buyers Club character (I was very conscious of his performance which meant he didn't successfully disappear into that character for me), so I wasn't surprised his first Joker in SS was terrible. He was very much more subdued in the Snyder cut but I also believe it's probably because he took a lot of cues from the Oscar-winning Jokers that came before. In that regard, my opinion of Leto is that he's not so much an artiste as he is a mimic.

When I was watching this movie, I was like “Nando’s gonna complain about Steppenwolf being a big grey villain- oh wait, he’s not grey! He has color!” And then he still did it anyway

Nando, what’s the big superhero moment at 7:20?

Think about it this way, my friend....Snyder was done! He wanted to do as much as he could with what he had, and people were pleased with it. It's basically a Watchmen version of the Justice League