Oh shit notice how bala's expression changes in the cutscene when umbra stabs him? He almost laughed and then he puts on the shocked "I created you" face, just like how he acted in front of natah that he was a slave. Boys a fuckign actor.

The voice change of ballas, when he's talking through the transference bolt, could be his original voice or an amalgam of many voices of the bodies he possessed through the ages.

I always thought when the man in the wall said “you owe me” that he was talking about the tenno’s powers

12:17 remember that she's the minic queen, mimics can change their entire body to look like something else. Doesn't sound too far fetched that she can make her voice sound more human

I wonder if we'll get literally any story this year I hope, but I don't expect it. My grandkids are gonna love this game when the story is finished.

"How long have we waited for this moment"- the lotus.

Siege: spits some galaxy brain stuff Me, too tiny brained to fully grasp some of these topics: "Haha yea you go you funky man"

It’s so good to hear “Hey all, Siege here.”

I always threw it up to "now these characters are relevant, throw em in the story" kinda deal. Now that you mention it, I'm noticing a lot of these details going through cutscenes and replaying quests. Well played DE. well played.

Change in the eyes and voice indicate Ballas talking privately through transferrance bolt. And gestures with his "Orokin hand" indicate commands through transferrance. Ballas uses a gesture with both Natah and Umbra. And now that i think about it, could the change of the hand be tied to how much an orokin uses void/transferrance to control others? Edit: It was actually Lotus (not Natah) that Ballas used his hand command on.

It's all the Man in the Wall imo. He's coordinated everything ever since he got stuck in the Void. I think anyone who touched the Void can be touched by him, including or especially Orokin like Ballas. The longer you let him touch you, the stronger his influence, until you can no longer tell where you end and he begins. And I think Ballas has long since passed that point.

You know, The Void, everything is pointing to the Void. Everything and Everyone.

oh man , every time i see one of your videos i learn that there is so much depth to this game and i dont know any thing about it reeeeeally nice video

If I were actually a Tenno,I'd be the blackwargreymon walking amongst them. Me with my Nightmare Chroma destroying the system. "He whose name we DARE not speak"

we already know why ballas has the golden eyes and the distorted voice when he speaks to umbra in the sacrifice. he put a transference bolt in him, which gave him direct control of his whole brain. transference bolts are brain implants the orokin used to communicate/control machines and everything else that served them. he waited because he needed a sign that the sentients are waking up again. he needed natah to make her the all mother and the full sentient force to finish the old war. this means that, to him, this war isn't over. he must know that the orokin aren't dead and only the sentients are able to stand up to them. natah is a mimic. when she was lotus, her voice was the voice of margulis. now that she's natah again, her voice is a little more her own. geoff said on a devstream that she keeps the face of lotus on because she doesn't really know or remember who she was before her reprograming. as you know, she spent the last couple thousand years being a programed mother to her biggest enemies. the orokin deleted her and made her into a false margulis. we also know where the consciousness of a sentient is. it's described in that one simaris entry. a small star shaped mass, a living machine that absorbs matter and adapts. the big ships and the fragments aren't sentients. they're that. fragments of a body. i believe ballas wants to die. he really wanted a perfect death. as in, he wants redemption because he betrayed margulis. he destroyed an empire for her. i think he wants to correct his mistakes and die in peace. in his own psychopathic way.

The only Guy whose content isn't ever "End-game". Thank god i found you when i was playing warframe.

Geez, This is why I like to watch this channel. I never notice these things

Imagine, by the end of this series, DE Warframe's developers saying "there's a certain KZfaqr that uncovered some of our plans, after all, they where all hidden in plain sight; but they missed on something, a minimal detail... kiddo". Now I'm making a fanfic, in my head, of a theory by a KZfaqr I follow about a game that I play and it's far from fully developed. Thank you, Siege! This is gonna get interesting!

The 1 dislike at this point in time is the man in the wall because you're uncovering his plot

2:52 Same for the Entrati and Nihil. The Orokin were supposed to be extinct until Ballas appeared, but apparently DE specializes in making the story inconsistent.

Damn you got me thinking

I was going the other way with this. I was almost certain that Erra, while holding "Ballas" on a "Snare", was in fact Ballas himself. Transference into a Sentient? Unheard of SO far, but with the direct control over Lotus, it could be possible.

This came up on my dash, subbed at the end! Can't wait for part 2, I may not have fun playing Warframe anymore but I love to see the story getting the attention it deserves.

I only recently found your channel and I'm so glad I did, such good content. :)

Yeah this seems a bit too big brain for Ballas, then again its ballas so I wouldn't be surprised he is a very interesting character, and I would like to know more about him dope video, can't wait for part 2

What caught my attention on this one was that one cephalon in particular didn’t react as he would had done if this really was Ballas. Ordis never once had that anger bursting out... if that one makes sense. He never forgot Ballas at all.

I would like them to either end the new war or continue with the story plssss

Your theories are the reason i keep returning to WF! Great job!

I've been waiting so long to find a good speculation channel for Warframe omg, instant sub

missed your vids, man. always good to see your content.

Amazing video! For real, didn't expect warframe lore to get so deep. Nice theory!

the man in the wall has this nice name for a reason, the walls have eyes, if he’s in the wall he will see you if you’re in the room... the man in the wall being an entity or embodiment of the void might be correct but how terrifying must it be to know how he has been pulling the strings and crawling his way into th e reality of the origin system, void surges, the void clouds in space, and then think of this... at the start you use a void bomb to destroy the infestation from a great spaceship “void energy only destroys organic forms” so the infestation get’s destroyed, but why? and when the sentients were created why did the void become poison to them? was that just something from their creation, or was that done on purpose?

Always love this kind of theory making that totally changes the way you look at what's happening in the story. The man in the wall is the biggest mystery that I'd love to see solved someday. Great job as always!

Love it! It's been too long, but well worth the wait! You too take care, Siege. Until the next time, stay well!

I personally think that Natah displaying parts of Margulis in her true form is supposed to be symbolic of how the Lotus is not gone completely yet.

This has to be my favorite channel when it comes to lore and theories for Warframe. Siege is the best at it. Reminds me of the old days when theories for popping left and right for Black Ops 1 & 2 Zombies.

I appreciate all the effort and thought put into this video! It may not have as many views as you wanted it to, but I love it :)

Having just recently come back to WF after a 2 year hiatus, I love that the Man in the Wall is getting more attention. While some of this is spoilers for me, mostly the latter part with Lotus attacking us with the Tenno, MitW is my favorite part of the story i had experienced so far. Keep up the work man.

If I'm going to be really honest, your vids and lore speculation are some of the last things tying me to this game I used to love so much. Thank you for keeping that little ember of hope burning. Give me my damn war DE!

Definitely looking forward to watching part 2

And here was i thinking all lead down a rabbit hole but when you put it all together it makes sense. That teaches me not to dump silly warframe theories down the drain.

This is some really interesting stuff, can’t wait for the rest coming down the line

4:27 that's Albrecht's eye, looking at the Man in the Wall, perhaps? Wallie always has his head tilted, as we see him in the orbiter.

“But as I opened my eyes, it wasn’t her. It was me.” “It’s me, Pamela Anderson, with 8 Millions trees. Here with and urgent message....” lol perfectly timed ads strike again!

this actually makes so much sense, can't wait for part 2

You know the sad part I've noticed these small changes and had these exact same speculations I just never said anything cause I wanted to see if anyone at all out of the KZfaq Creators from Warframe noticed. My good sir you I believe are the first Creator to Notice and say something I applaud you.

Yeah this has been my theory for years but if my other theory on " Hey Kiddo" is also correct, then what comes next will be far worse then what came before.

To me, you are the only person that thinks really hard when theorizing about the Warframe universe, your theories blow my mind so I 100% trust you. Thank you so much for creating this channel.

I always found a connection in the man in the wall and all of this, you know when he comes at you as your reflection in your orbiter saying "hey kiddo" notice to color of his eyes, in the new cinematic where ballas is chained by the sentients , he has one eye exactly of the same color as your "demon", in my opinion, the man in the walls was and still is trying to help us, and is using Ballas to help us, giving us Paracesis, and some informations, like a drone looking out for us, and in your railjackl, there is a pod if you press X on it, the man in the walls (or who i assume to be) speaks out, he is still there, by our side, doing whatever he can being not really physical what he can do is limited

Once again, the lore master has blessed us with his great theory videos.

To this I can only quote a BNP video he did years ago. "Who is the man in the wall?" "It's... *INAROS!* " (egyptian music plays)

So hyped for the next video.

Good shit man, new sub right here, I would dig a Warframe movie.

The MITW appears to each of us as ourselves, yet speaks to us as a (derogatory?) parent. Specifically digging deep within our memories and finding a phrase or pet name that is deeply connected to us. The parent/child theme. It’s seeded ALL throughout Warframe. I truly hope this is the year DE advances the lore at least as far as they did with Dream/War quests. We’re long overdue.

It's worth noting that we already have an in fiction explanation for the corpus voices. Corpus have voice modulators in their helmets to make them all sound the same because the Corpus treat their human and robotic tools the same way. Like cogs in a greater machine

That part u said about umbra finding out about ballas’s plans to exterminate the orokin, I did not know about that, and I’m guessing that forcing him to kill his son was some sort of sick punishment for trying to expose him? That’s a pretty damn cool backstory if I’ve ever heard one. Honestly a lot better to find out from you than to read the lore myself.

wow your theories make perfect sence to me.. An interesting detail I just noticed.. Albrecht Duviri says somthing about severed fingers he studied and how his advances put the stars in reach and in the background the reliquieriy drive with 'the finger' is shown... that is most certainly not a coincidence

This is a really good theory! I never actually thought about any of this

If theres anyone who isnt who they say they are in this story it's the Tenno. I dont think Ballas refers to us as, "devils" simply because he doesnt like us. Our helminth also refers to us as, "the demon". Our sworn enemies, The sentients, are parraled with Angel's in many ways. From Erra's, "dont be afraid" / "be not afraid" lines. To their multitudes of borderline eldritch forms and purposes, and their hierarchies. Even their concept is nigh angelic. A race of powerfull non human, sentient beings, created by "gods" that guide and pioneer humans to a new home. I think the tenno have a much more nefarious purpose. Another observation, and kinda a reach. Natah has three forms; Margulis, the mother of the tenno. Natah, the daughter of the sentients. And the Lotus, the ethereal entity who directs the Tennos missions. She's like some genderbent version of Chistianities father/son/holy spirit.

The Tenno's eyes when they attack Erra took me by surprise! I can't wait to see the follow-up!!

"Oh, this. I had them fit you with a transference bolt." The yellow eyes and telepathic-seeming communication is an odd form of transference.

Great theories as usual! I I definately agree that someone is playing both sides. Trying to get us to go to war. Someone is pulling the strings, and I think it's The Man in The Wall. I'm very interested in Call of The Tempestarii too. The cover art shows pluto. The tenno were going to the Outer Terminus when the void jump accident happened, coincidentally there is also a node called outer terminus on pluto. Tempestarii is a word from midlevel lore meaning someone who can summon or stop storms at will. In this case, Void Storms. I think it is going go be the setup for Duviri Paradox. Edit: it says "Outer Gates" not Outer Terminus, but they could very well be the same thing.

I love all your theories, even if there’s the possibility you’re giving DE more credit than they maybe deserve lol

I want to side with The Man In The Wall, my Neutral Evil mercenary Tenno wouldnt think twice about siding with void satan for power and it would be awesome if choosing to dide with him was an option. It would be even cooler if he replaced the Lotus as your mission narrator from then on if you did.

And this looks to be the point of warframe multiverse in Planes of Duviri.

If Lotus was purely Sentient, she wouldn't be in that suit thing. Even the way Erra talks when she tries to remember makes me think they are hinting that she is being controlled through the suit. I think Ballas betrayed her; maybe even was instrumental in allowing Natah and Margulis to meet before her death and resulted in some kind of amalgamation, and then things didn't play out the way he planned. Now, perhaps the Man in the Wall was instrumental in what happened to Ballas, pointing the player in the right direction. Still, I think you are on the right track. :)

Wow this is fantastic!

also ballas' change in stature at the end of the latest cutscene where erra throws natah onto the throne is very strange for someone there against his will as if he was putting on an act up until that moment, perhaps working with erra the entire time to manipulate us and the lotus into the new war

I said it many times and everyone just laughed and said hahah cool but no way... I always looked at void man as some kind of "god" just having a fun game with everything, like "hmm wonder what if I move this pawn here, what will happen... oooo fun fun lets try it out" kind of thing. But something could have gone wrong with us or someone along the way could be he got to coky and gave to much and is trying to make everyone clean up his mess so we don't become a treat for him or something. Regardless, great video and theory man its always a pleasure to watch your take on things, I have similar ideas and because the lore is one of my favorite if not the one thing that I love the most about this game, and because I thing DE doesn't push the lore as much as they should (btw almost dropped the game and a friend pushed me to play war within, and you can guess the rest) having your videos really helps fill that "void" hahah get it ...no, ok you get the point :) keep it up and have a good one!

Heavy darkest dungeon vibes from that in-game dialogue

its dope how you make good fashion using only 3 colors (and their shades)

your voice at the end when u said "take care everyone" really got me trippin

This is my theory as well. Glad to see I'm not the only one who noticed.

the man in the wall its like hes trying to tell us something but the peapol around us get him out of us

Oh, and one more thing. I think that the Entrati (mother and the rest) will be the ones to introduce us to the Duviri Paradox. When completing the Isolation Vault missions, there's a mirror in the vault in which when you look through it, you can see the void worm. The same void worm you saw in the Duviri trailer. In fact on Xbox, there's a bug in which when you use Transference with Excalibur Umbra within the Entrati ruins, just near the Isolation vault, you sink into empty space in which you will find a 3D void model and near the void, you will see the Void worm. Very interesting.

Nice theory. Makes me wonder if the older version of ourselves we saw in the duveri paradox trailer has anything to do with it. A part of us removed to make room for the void powers and by extension the man in the wall and whether anyone else is similarly affected like lotus/natah

"My, my, Lotus, you make a fine villain." Alad V knew before all of us lol

If this is like a poem there is a literal and deeper meaning we only focus on the deeper meaning literally there is a man in the wall we just need to find out where the wall is or what the wall is.

Every time he post a theory I can't wait to see this in the game since its so logical

Could grandpa be a puppet master?I like the way your theory goes.I always thought there is someone/something pulling the strings in the background but couldn't pinpoint .Orokin as immortal race on one side,void and man in the wall on another or is it entangled?Can't wait for part 2 :)

hey so i watched a bunch of your videos today and I noticed something. you didn't mention that when we had the Vitruvian of Ballas explain things during the Umbra quest he mentioned a belief that the Orokin held and it was the belief of Duality. that all things MUST come in pairs and seeing as how you suggested that it could be both Ballas and The Man In The Wall well...

I think the voice in the wall is us from the future.

I'm starting to think that Margulis/Natah/Lotus have always been the same person.

The voice lines next to the finger in the rail jack. Also, wally was sitting right on top of it.

such a good video

I thought it the voice and eye change in ballas during the sacrifice were due to the transference bolt, and to symbolize when he had used it to communicate. As when our operator is possessed by the man in the wall our eyes turn reddish not yellow.

that is a nice looking zaw you got there.

You know, this is a good way to look at it, and this is a little off topic, but I got to thinking the other day. We haven’t seen any orokin, up until the war within, i.e. the Elder grineer queen. After that, we didn’t see anything until ballas showed up, then we got the entrati family, and then even the glassmaker. We all thought the orokin were all long gone but we’re starting to see more and more. I’m wondering if (say we succeed in the new war and kill all the sentient forces) that the sentients go back to minuscule appearances such as the vomvolysts, and the eidolons searching through the night. What if all the orokin were in hiding this whole time. Similar to the glass maker and are just waiting for the Tenno to finish the job so they can make their grand return?

The man in the wall "Zariman ten zero" The Day the Tenno where found... cursed by the void when we lost a part of are self to the void to "gain power you must give something up"

I think on the Lotus being okay with Ballas contacting the Tenno like that in the new war, it's worth noting the message she sent out during Operation Orphix Venom of "I'm dying". It's likely that whatever Erra's doing to her is killing her, so that would make her more likely to be willing to work with the Tenno to save herself.

Ballas' eye and voice change are implicitly when he decides to speak privately with Umbra through the transference bolt he's implanted into Umbra

We owe him(it?) for helping us during the Zariman Ten-Zero incident. I'm guessing he(it?) gave us the void connection/power that we used to fight off the parents that had all gone insane(only the children avoided that because the childish innocence didn't lead us to see/hear/experience what the adults did) during the void jump.

God I love your lore, sadly I dont think DE think that far. I must admit, I logged back in the game because of your lore. I did redo some quest to validate what you said and agree. Guilty pleasure I guess. Stay safe and thanks for upload...

If we assume that the man in the wall is what gave the Tenno their powers, does that explain why only the kids were spared from the effects that the void had on the minds of the adults? Like how one would strike a deal with the devil? What would the price be? Did "he" choose the kids because it would make it easier to influence them to go down a specific path? Could this entity be the void itself? Maybe its agenda is to spread the void? These videos raises so many questions! They are very stimulating. Thank you

We started with the lack of space then moved to lack of sense and we will end with the lack of time, the void.

When the MITW got in game i used to think he was our tenno character from a pararel dimention

11:16 yeah, if Natah watches through his spooky glowing eye

When’s part 2? I really enjoyed this

Love your videos. Never moss one. When can we expect netx one?

The man in the wall shows himself to us in our own body.