I Fixed the F1 23 Driver Rankings

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F1 23, Driver Ratings, Fixed. You're welcome.
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@TommoOnYoutube Жыл бұрын

Who did it best? Real vs Mine vs Yours. Vote below!

@TommoOnYoutube Жыл бұрын

Real

@TommoOnYoutube Жыл бұрын

Mine

@TommoOnYoutube Жыл бұрын

Yours

@thesenate9455 Жыл бұрын

my personal picks ofc ;)

@ethandavies6691 Жыл бұрын

Other than strolls I say yours were pretty spot on

@hamza-chaudhry Жыл бұрын

Alonso's awareness being 78 is criminal. It should be 90 minimum, especially if Lewis' awareness is 94 after having quite a few incidents last season and this season (Monaco practice and Miami qualifying which was the definition of 0 awareness). I feel like they just put Alonso's awareness so low, so his overall rating wouldn't be so high and higher than Lewis'. But they should increase Max's rating to 96+ and push Alonso to 93/94 in my opinion.

@joshflynn2173 Жыл бұрын

whats max's awareness?

@hamza-chaudhry Жыл бұрын

@@joshflynn2173 85

@TommoOnYoutube Жыл бұрын

I'd love to know what statistics they pulled from to come to that conclusion.

@NeedforMine1 Жыл бұрын

They have always overstatted Lewis. The people who do them are definitely TeamLH and have no idea what these drivers actually drive like.

@RupertNigelson Жыл бұрын

@@TommoOnKZfaqI’m pretty sure they got that rating from how often they get penalties/severity of those penalties

@NeedforMine1 Жыл бұрын

Alonso having 78 awareness whilst Hamilton has 90+ is actually criminal. Ham's had so many incidents last year and in 2021 there is no way anyone with a clear conscience can give him such a high awareness rating. Not to mention Alonso is literally **A W A R E** of how every other driver is doing during the race. His on the fly calculations and clairvoyance of the race situation is just absolutely mad. Those two figures definitely have to be switched.

@doghat1619 Жыл бұрын

Hamilton has always been praised for his consistency but the last few seasons have shown anything but. He's up and down like how the wind changes.

@xamsedalabay6809 Жыл бұрын

This Alonso fangirl crying every ware Lewis is better than Alonso in all aspects of the game.

@chriswilder9719 Жыл бұрын

Wow the Alonso fan girl club is going and growing strong. You see the deltas between him and the person in front of behind when he does that? It's not like he does it while fighting for position so it's not that impressive. He didn't pass the boss's son again not that impressive or far seeing. He isn't some race god that can't make mistakes or is able to see the future. Sucking up to stroll is the smartest and safest way to keep a drive and possibly not get screwed over if by some miracle he finds himself in a title fight

@TommoOnYoutube Жыл бұрын

They must be basing the numbers off of some kind of data. Would love to know what that data is.

@theracingban Жыл бұрын

@@doghat1619 lol maybe you haven't been watching this season but Lewis is literally maximizing that w14 even though it doesn't even suite him

@jkliao6486 Жыл бұрын

We all joke about Alonso's famous quote about leaving space. But over his career, I'd say he is one of the cleanest driver of all time, in terms of avoiding incidents, probably on Kimi level, yet somehow he got a low awareness rating. You tell me how it works.

@glenrobinson10 Жыл бұрын

I think EA mostly got the order correct but the issue they have is that the ratings are made in such a way where they have room to grow throughout a career mode save so they sort of have to be lower than they should. But certain stats like Fernando & Lando's awareness being so low whilst the racecraft on Stroll, Sargeant & NDV being way too high is just baffling.

@TommoOnYoutube Жыл бұрын

That's a fair point.

@kirstiebeau4862 Жыл бұрын

I think Leclerc’s pace must be way higher. IMO Leclerc’s one-lap qualifying pace is up there with Verstappen or even higher. I dont mind giving him a lower grade on RACECRAFT and AWARENESS, but PACE should be 96 or higher. Exp: 77 Rac: 89 Awa: 81 Pac: 97

@KayJblue Жыл бұрын

This sounds great to me

@TommoOnYoutube Жыл бұрын

Yeah that's a fair cop Kirstie

@ale8857 Жыл бұрын

Racecraft: "Masters of overtakes" says EA He should be way higher than 89,bro is so good attacking and defending.

@MrXLR8Clan Жыл бұрын

89 racecraft is a joke

@EF.707 Жыл бұрын

@@MrXLR8Clanhe has better race craft than max imo

@AleksanderBrunsch3 Жыл бұрын

What you seem to miss is that the ratings are low in general to enable driver development within F1 career mode. With Max being 96 or 97, he will top out pretty much instantly, which doesn't make sense from a game perspective. With that in mind, I think the ratings are pretty much correct, I definitely think that Leclerc and Russell should be a touch higher than Norris for example, and while I love a little bit of Bottas, he hasn't really backed up that 87 rating so far, but it should be only minor tweaking. Remember that more dated drivers should get higher ratings based on their experience though - so Hamilton, Alonso, Perez and Bottas will greatly benefit from it in the overall ratings.

@TommoOnYoutube Жыл бұрын

I guess it would make sense for the game to inflate growth potential vs real life. Fair point.

@chriswilder9719 Жыл бұрын

Really good explanation. You see the same with all other sports games and also see people getting upset over the ratings. It's about growth. Franchise or my team are huge aspects of those games

@sweeney7 Жыл бұрын

I don't think your point about topping out matters at all as all the drivers in the big 3 are all 99 rated in myteam due to driver facilities.

@AleksanderBrunsch3 Жыл бұрын

@@sweeney7 whether that's true or not I don't know, but it matters when they leave for another team.

@danbruh33 Жыл бұрын

Well exp isn’t given much weight when calculating the average. It’s mostly pac and rac

@AlexM-mi7kt Жыл бұрын

Hulkenbergs Pace should be very high. One of the best on one lap

@TommoOnYoutube Жыл бұрын

You ain't wrong!

@MaxVerhaag Жыл бұрын

@@TommoOnKZfaq especially after quali today!

@Farigeri Жыл бұрын

Do you know pace is not really about the qualy?

@Agdem_ Жыл бұрын

@@MaxVerhaagBro, he got 2nd in Q3 because of a red flag; Not because he was fast lmao. He was over 2 seconds behind Max’s time. I agree Nico is quick, but this weekend was not the example you’re looking for.

@QWERTY708100 Жыл бұрын

@@Farigeri did you know it's "quali" and not "qualy?"

@marcovitulli3517 Жыл бұрын

8:56 funniest part lmao

@chaosthebaryonyx6344 Жыл бұрын

Yeah everyone was just laughing on the stream. It was hilarious

@TommoOnYoutube Жыл бұрын

😬😬😬

@7BD273 Жыл бұрын

having Perez and Norris ahead of Russell, and having Sainz equal to Russell is just criminal. and Russell at 88 and Bottas at 87 is an absolute joke.

@gameofender4463 Жыл бұрын

The fact Tommo thinks George and Norris are equal is a joke. George would flatten Lando.

@danbruh33 Жыл бұрын

@@gameofender4463george imo should be 1 rating higher than lando

@gameofender4463 Жыл бұрын

@@danbruh33 Exactly. Lost a lot of respect for Tommo since he’s shown he’s a Norris hack.

@sarimsalman2698 Жыл бұрын

@@gameofender4463It's not that deep

@soyabok1 Жыл бұрын

norris > george russeliban

@AndyKazama2 Жыл бұрын

It was fun watching this on the live stream and being able to influence the results.

@TommoOnYoutube Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it Andy, appreciate it!

@AndyKazama2 Жыл бұрын

@@TommoOnKZfaq any plans to do another when EA update the rankings. Maybe get chatgpts input? 😂

@wharris123184 Жыл бұрын

7:23 I did NOT see that coming. 😂 Great live yesterday! 👍🏾

@TommoOnYoutube Жыл бұрын

Cheers for coming!

@Tom-qb1rj Жыл бұрын

You really edited this video and thought it was fine to have that fast forward with the high pitch noise 19 times

@ivarvdk2610 Жыл бұрын

Facts

@Yojeepee Жыл бұрын

Never bothered me

@jjrod2883 Жыл бұрын

It’s fine

@LG_XD Жыл бұрын

@@jjrod2883nah it's horrible

@TommoOnYoutube Жыл бұрын

You don't enjoy the sound of my 1000x voice?

@louisdnd934 Жыл бұрын

Lando 89 is a bit high, 88 would be fine, 91 is just ridiculous imo

@epicgamerchannel6230 Жыл бұрын

I can kind of see how people give you him those high numbers. He's done things in that mclaren that I honestly see very few drivers being able to replicate, and if he maintained that performance when he moves to a better team then its valid to give him those high scores. However until then it's impossible to know for sure and peoples should just err on the side of caution for the time being.

@adamlipman1930 Жыл бұрын

@@epicgamerchannel6230 We have seen since F1 2021 how he somehow overdrives the car and is a dark horse to any other car other than the top 3.

@teamrainbow7674 Жыл бұрын

I know it was a few seasons ago now, but I feel like it would be a bit too extreme to have Lando 3 ratings higher than Sainz when he overall beat Lando when they were teammates

@louisdnd934 Жыл бұрын

@@teamrainbow7674 exactly

@epicgamerchannel6230 Жыл бұрын

@@teamrainbow7674 the thing is, lando has definitely improved more in those seasons than sainz has. It's a meaningless comparison now, unless you were to stick them in the same car again

@KamGP_ Жыл бұрын

i dont think carlos should be rated lower than lando. carlos has beat lando every single year including when they were teammates i think they should at least be given the same score

@andrewf9423 Жыл бұрын

Lando would have beat him in 2021 but he was very unlucky in the last few races. 2022 was not very impressive from Carlos while Lando beat Ocon by 30 points in worse machinery

@fkyk916 Жыл бұрын

The ratings are not based on his whole career, its most towards this season

@spicywener705 Жыл бұрын

@@andrewf9423 Mr 'would have'

@fakekathi5987 Жыл бұрын

Carlos was definitely better when they were teammates but while Lando has improved a lot I just haven’t seen that improvement from Carlos. Lando has been outperforming that McLaren for two years now and with the new upgrade in silverstone is finally showed just how good he really is

@ethandavies6691 Жыл бұрын

I like these kind of vids where you get highlights or a condensed version of a stream. Don't often have chance to watch one back or catch it live. Maybe you could do a thing where you do a video showing the worldie and stinker drives in a small GP weekend review from the streams? I just want more tommo in my life 😂

@TommoOnYoutube Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it Ethan!

@superxavxii421 Жыл бұрын

Being in chat and fighting over the vote was fun 🤣

@Saiko-Johnny Жыл бұрын

Would be interesting if there was a rating for the cars. For example rated by speed, handling and reliability, and then combine that total with the overal driver rating to get a rating for the complete package.

@pleunivanerp6168 Жыл бұрын

Norris ahead of Sainz is criminal

@quintinwacker7358 Жыл бұрын

put lando in that ferrari and he outscores leclerc and sainz. Lando consistently puts his shitbox mclaren in the points

@bundybir2684 Жыл бұрын

Norris is a way and way better driver than Sainz is man, he has a goddamn tractor on the grid.

@pleunivanerp6168 Жыл бұрын

@@bundybir2684 forgetting about mclaren 2019/2020? Sainz was clear and only improved, just like norris. Sainz still ahead of norris for me.

@bundybir2684 Жыл бұрын

@@pleunivanerp6168 For you yes. Norris is an exceptional driver, pulls 110% out the car. Sainz has a Ferrari. Norris's day will come.

@jkae4795 Жыл бұрын

@@quintinwacker7358 "shitbox" outside of the first couples races has been on par or better than the alpine

@kuriaspaul Жыл бұрын

Tommo Teammate averages: Red Bull - 92 Mercedes - 92.5 Ferrari - 90.5 Aston Martin - 88 Alpine - 86 McLaren - 85.5 Alfa Romeo - 83 Haas - 83 Alpha Tauri - 79.5 Williams - 79.5

@TommoOnYoutube Жыл бұрын

Oooh nice

@rafayasfi Жыл бұрын

The stream chat wars were insane for this 😂

@mellenix Жыл бұрын

Alex Albon gets bumped up to 88 after his Canadian F1 race performance.

@AlexM-mi7kt Жыл бұрын

Bottas Racecraft should be 60 and Awareness 99

@alexvandun2124 Жыл бұрын

This is the second ratings video I have watched and both instances I (the other was P1 with Matt and Tommy) the ratings were better than in the game. EA need to do some research before giving ratings like this, Perez and Leclerc, or Russel and Bottas having the same amount of points is ridiculous.

@TommoOnYoutube Жыл бұрын

They must be pulling from some kind of data. But sometimes, the data doesn't tell the full story. Or at least, it conflicts with our feelings about it.

@DiegoRYT Жыл бұрын

Lando is not even close to Checo...

@lucasmit5804 Жыл бұрын

I think the way they rate them is based on drivers still being able to grow. In FIFA you had years Messi had like 6 99(nice) rated cards

@SilkyDimi Жыл бұрын

I think it’s reasonable that a lot are “under rated” in the game, because I think there needs to be a proper spread so that the AI performs where they should. What’s more important is having the drivers in the right order I think

@TStizzle19 Жыл бұрын

Its odd to see so many driver ratings increased in this tbh, i expected more drops in points

@Matt-lg6vk Жыл бұрын

Giving Hamilton the same as alonso 😂😂😂

@walter1824 Жыл бұрын

As if they are not equal ? 😂😂😂

@Matt-lg6vk Жыл бұрын

@@walter1824 considering they were level on 2007 and when Hamilton had the faster car from 2010-2013 alonso beat him in the championship all 4 seasons I think it’s fair for alonso to be ranked higher

@thomassf3 Жыл бұрын

I find it hard to believe that a driver winning every single qualy, sprint and race is 5 points off a 99...

@pridderss Жыл бұрын

After Alex's Montreal performance I wouldn't question you giving him a 99

@shoey6123 Жыл бұрын

I genuinely don't think you can have Piastri as an 80 and Lando as a 91. There's just not that bug a difference between then given it's Piastri's rookie season. If Lando is on par with Russel, then how is an 80 that close?

@trifirecracker5697 Жыл бұрын

Latifi should get put in the game as a my team icon with a 99

@bigstevee Жыл бұрын

i think gasly is criminally underrated, i think he’s level with ocon. people are forgetting his 2 incredible seasons in an alpha tauri. he had an average year last year and now apparently he’s on the level of albon and barely better than yuki, who he consistently battered.

@torradasuprema395 Жыл бұрын

Gasly is having a really unlucky season, he is indeed better then Ocon

@ferrarithegoats Жыл бұрын

Gasly wouldn't batter Yuki in 2023. He didn't destroy him last season either.

@Deyuui Жыл бұрын

he battered yuki in 2021, in 2022 they were level in quali and race pace, I think they are very close and both very underrated

@TommoOnYoutube Жыл бұрын

I need to see more from Pierre to have the confidence in his ability that I do of Ocon. Esteban has had these top tier teammates and broadly held his own. Esteban has had the edge this year, will be interesting to see how they're related by the end.

@AlwaysKeepCalm7 Жыл бұрын

@@TommoOnKZfaq Gasly 4 - 3 Ocon in race head to heads this season, on what planet are they not on the same level?

@vatsaldvora Жыл бұрын

Not now Tommo. The Ashes are about to start!

@TommoOnYoutube Жыл бұрын

Cricket is long

@Brossano22 Жыл бұрын

Thought you would also change the stats

@GLGR52 Жыл бұрын

More stream highlights like this please!

@jedplum Жыл бұрын

After Sainz at Canada quali, his awareness should be about 4

@ssigeon Жыл бұрын

tommo i was just about to go to sleep it’s borderline 5am how could you do this to me… i can’t just not watch this video right now

@TommoOnYoutube Жыл бұрын

Goodnight

@maximilianmeier1441 Жыл бұрын

VER: 94 ALO: 92 HAM: 91 NOR: 90 RUS: 90 LEC: 90 SAI: 89 PER: 88 OCO: 88 HUL: 87 GAS: 86 ALB: 86 TSU: 85 MAG: 83 BOT: 82 ZHO: 82 PIA: 82 STR: 81 DEV: 78 SAR: 76

@gameofender4463 Жыл бұрын

Drop Norris to 88 and raise Charles and George to 91 and it’s fine.

@JimbobH Жыл бұрын

It's the f1 game so surely they should be on a sliding scale just for F1 drivers, max at 99, Logan at 1

@oliverwilliams3014 Жыл бұрын

That would make a lot more sense tbh

@KayJblue Жыл бұрын

This video is great, although I think the controversial parts were the individual stats.

@killcroop Жыл бұрын

I would watch a video where you rate the drivers based on their prime performance

@Comequat Жыл бұрын

You should have done the poll before you revealed your rating, may have given less biased results :)

@elijahmeinhard4780 Жыл бұрын

The disrespect to stroll is crazy. How is Pierre above ocon. Ocon is like 81 rating

@josephbartleet460 Жыл бұрын

OG’s remember when this video included a card redesign

@agruber630 Жыл бұрын

"I rate Gasly the same as I rate Albon" I think Red Bull agrees with you on that

@krigs64 Жыл бұрын

Leclerc is under rated super hard. Sure he has crashed alot, but as you said, he doesnt have a fast car, and he is maximizing every single bit of it. He would have ended P3 in Bahrain if it wasnt for the DNF, he got pole position against two redbulls. Probably the fastest driver on the grid.

@99GOATClub Жыл бұрын

Hey Tommo, this might be a little bit of a stretch, but can you do a redesign of the Konnersport car in F1 23?

@macan94126 Жыл бұрын

Breaking: Tommo's opinions are actually not washed

@TommoOnYoutube Жыл бұрын

Debatable

@nikita.trukhanov Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I agree with a lot of people here, Charles's Pace should be the best one out of all the drivers. He is not my favourite driver overall, but you have to admit that in qualy he is mega

@MrReese Жыл бұрын

I am not exactly sure how the viewer polling worked since it's somewhat distorted and fast-forwarded. Did you poll the viewers after you showed them your rating? Because if you did I think showing your points rating and bringing arguments for it has most likely heavily influenced the viewers' ratings. I think it would have been better if you polled the viewers first and then show your rating for all of the drivers :).

@antonysnook4932 Жыл бұрын

The Problem with sim games is the talent files are all over the place. A driver who sits at the back of the grid will sit at the front or win. There is a bias as a fan of Lewis Hamillton will over rate him despite the fact he is under performing. I race against fantasy drivers in fantasy cars on my PC because of this.

@Bikerz_rule Жыл бұрын

Sorry Tommo, I just had to fast forward to Alonsos. Alonso's awareness is one of the highest of anyone on the grid. How can he have an awareness rating of 78 and Sir Lewis gets over 90 and yet he rarely makes mistakes?! That doesn't make sense

@rayquetzalcoatl9672 Жыл бұрын

it do be kinda tommo tho 😳

@Kevin_40 Жыл бұрын

please tell me im doing something wrong. ps4 version digital download is crashing like crazy. in tt mode and online racing. crashes all the time.

@sjoerd7512 Жыл бұрын

Hi Tommo, I enjoyed the video! However, it felt sort of like a short summary of you just saying what you think your rating was and what the viewers think. I feel like you could explain a bit more (maybe the individual stats that you do/don’t agree with), and that would make the video even better! If that’s not the way you want to do it, you obviously shouldn’t. Your videos slap anyways ❤ Just thought I’d give my two cents!

@hannahtaylor3457 Жыл бұрын

EA has watched one season of F1

@matiasbiondolillo5217 Жыл бұрын

Let's remember pretty much like FIFA, ratings evolve through the season. An 88 driver might end the season on 92.

@samppi1590 Жыл бұрын

why not changing all of the stats, bc now its weird to have higher overall rating than what the stats are giving

@KayJblue Жыл бұрын

I understand differing opinions, but it genuinely makes sense as to why these are so bad, especially as i’ve seen fans come to a general consensus.

@miggygetright6344 Жыл бұрын

Miggy’s Ratings 1. Ver 95 2. Ham 93 3. ALO 93 4. LEC 91 5. RUS 91 6. OCO 88 7. Nor 88 8. Per 87 9. Sai 87 10. Gas 85 11. TSU 84 12. Alb 83 13. Mag 83 14. Hul 83 15. Bot 82 16. PIA 81 17. Zho 81 18. Str 80 19. Dev 76 20. Sar 72 21. DRU 75 22. Pou 73 23. Msc Ric & lat should be available

@gameofender4463 Жыл бұрын

These are really good. Though I think either bring Charles and George up one. Or bring Lewis and Max and Fernando down one.

@erdemeebilgee3584 Жыл бұрын

Fernando is on the same level as Max. Let's be real. the dude is driving a wallmart red bull and has been beating Merc and ferrari.

@Pat2437. Жыл бұрын

Idk how to feel about the drivers being equal to the level of cars they drive 🤷‍♂️

@adamparker6540 Жыл бұрын

1. Gasly and Ocon should either be both 86 or both 87. they cannot be separated at all imo 2. given the gap between Lando and Carlos when both were at McLaren i’d say they should only be 1 apart, probably 89 Carlos 90 Lando. Checo could easily be 89 too.

@raphaelovicstrassovic9440 Жыл бұрын

Lando has progressed since then and Icon is miles clear of Gasly

@kartikkaushik9811 Жыл бұрын

Putting carlos below lando is so crazy tbh.

@dislexyc Жыл бұрын

Showing your results before asking chat probably causes bias

@parkerwalsh3340 11 ай бұрын

I think your ratings are spot on. Norris and Russell and pretty much equal.

@justvibe4205 Жыл бұрын

Sargeant - 76 Albon - 84 De Vries - 73 Tsunoda - 84 Guanyu - 82 Bottas - 82 Hulkenberg - 83 Magnussen - 81 Piastri - 80 Norris - 90 Gasly - 86 Ocon - 88 Sainz - 89 Leclerc - 91 Stroll - 83 Alonso - 93 Russell - 91 Hamilton - 93 Perez - 89 Verstappen - 97

@Oblivion9873 Жыл бұрын

ah but you've missed the most heinous mis-rating of all: Villeneuve being superior in every stat to Hakkinen+Mansell

@LPChipi Жыл бұрын

I genuinely think that Alonso's 78 Awareness rating is a mistake that slipped by. There is just no way. There was that gridbox positioning issue, but if that takes such a toll, Lance stroll should have 3 awareness.

@iEpiccXI Жыл бұрын

in my opinion, this year rating lewis anything higher than 90, should be a crime

@ollydavis2495 Жыл бұрын

Next time you should get chats rating first because your rating probably influences chats

@fin-ed6oj Жыл бұрын

Max 96-97 is fair enough, as long as Perez is 86-87. There's no way he's within 10 overall of Max

@04dabow2k8 Жыл бұрын

Criminal Tommo criminal!

@trautsj Жыл бұрын

Man these have already fluctuated WILDLY IMHO lol

@cyvose Жыл бұрын

What’s with the blocks cards music lmao

@TacticalBunnyCA Жыл бұрын

I think it has to be said that the unequal cars are still a huge factor in all this. I suspect that if they were all plunked down in identical cars this list wouldn't be anything like it is now.

@crushx Жыл бұрын

my ratings Max 95 Alonso 92 Lewis 92 Charles 90 George 90 Lando 90 Checo 89 Carlos 89 Ocon 86 Gasly 85 Stroll 84 Bottas 84 Albon 84 Tsunoda 84 Zhou 83 Hulkenburg 83 Piastri 82 Magnussen 80 Nyck 76 Sargeant 76

@SpeculativeConjecture Жыл бұрын

100 just for the thumbnail

@GigaK Жыл бұрын

What do you mean give Charles a car he had one last year and they didn’t do anything.

@maximilianmeier1441 Жыл бұрын

Yeah Leclerc has a mistake in him. That issue makes 89 fair for him imo. But probably 90.

@TommoOnYoutube Жыл бұрын

Naaah that's harsh imo, considering how he's literally the pace god

@connorversieck4841 Жыл бұрын

I made my own ratings and apart from 1 or 2 points here and there, it's exactly the same as yours, altough some are a little a bit high imo. For exemple Norris shouldn't be higher than a 90 and both Haas drivers and Nyck De Vries should be a little lower imo. I'm a Perez fan myself and I completely agree with the 88 and leveled with Sainz. He has had a few bad weekends lately but people seem to forget how good he actually is. Not many drivers would've pulled off what he did in the Sakhir GP a few years ago. F1 fans just love hating on everyone as soon as they can. Sainz, Perez, Hamilton, Russel and Verstappen only have to make 1 mistake to be called washed nowadays

@kartikkaushik9811 Жыл бұрын

It’s clear that people were basing their ratings on yours. Shouldve polled the audience before revealing yours

@abcjelly Жыл бұрын

interesting vid 👍

@JackoVX Жыл бұрын

Is Max, Lewis, Nando and Charles the most stacked top 4 since mid 80s?

@usernamenotwrittenoutoflaz9865 Жыл бұрын

Prime Vettel, Prime Nando, Young Lewis and Prime Kimi was a really strong top 4 in the early 2010s. Add Button, Rosberg and Webber to that list and you have a pretty stacked list. I will though say that the early 2000s and the mid 2010s was pretty weak compared to the 2020s and the early 2010s. In my opinion the strongest era of drivers was probably the 1960s(Clark, Stewart, Hill, Hill, Guerney, Brabham, McLaren, Surtees, Rindt, Hulme and a little bit of Moss) It is though a shame that we have so many great drivers yet none of them can fight for wins and add to that the fact that so many young drivers won’t get a seat in F1(Theo, Vesti, Drugovich, Iwasa, Bearman and Lawson are all drivers who deserves a shot at F1)

@JackoVX Жыл бұрын

@@usernamenotwrittenoutoflaz9865 yeah that 60s stretch was crazy. My mind went to Prost, Senna, Piquet, Mansell as the 4, but 2010 v8 era is a good contender

@usernamenotwrittenoutoflaz9865 Жыл бұрын

@@JackoVX the best top 4 is 100% between 1980s and the early 2010s. We still need a few years to see how the top 4 we have now pan out to truly rank them. The 60s top 4 isn’t as strong(the top 4 is probably Clark, Stewart, Brabham and Graham Hill), but they did have a very top heavy field with multiple drivers that could win WDC(i am pretty certain the 60s was the decade where the WDC was won by the most amount of drivers ever, to be fair this was mostly due to Jim Clark having horrible reliability problems). I will though say that we are currently in the era with the deepest driver roster. Just think of how many drivers deserves a F1 seat.

@JackoVX Жыл бұрын

@@usernamenotwrittenoutoflaz9865 and even the drivers that "fail" F1 do. like Marcus Ericsson won and was runner up in Indy 500 last 2 years in a row

@viniciusvieiracruz Жыл бұрын

78 awareness for Alonso, in monaco he was racing in p2 while watching stroll on the big screen, come on now, codemasters pull these numbers out of their asses

@Joshw93 Жыл бұрын

George is much closer to lewis if not level, so one is too low or one is too high. (Or both 92)

@sanda8656 Жыл бұрын

How's George close to lewis ?🙆🏾‍♂️😂😂😂

@Joshw93 Жыл бұрын

Fair point, George 93, Lewis 92

@sanda8656 Жыл бұрын

@@Joshw93 can't answer the question can ya😂😂😂😂

@Joshw93 Жыл бұрын

Oh, sorry, George higher position last full season, better one lap speed. Better wheel to wheel (but not great). Etc

@Joshw93 Жыл бұрын

I'm not saying Lewis is terrible before you play the victim card 😂

@Luis33371 Жыл бұрын

If Alonso’s was real he’d been 99 haha

@kesh_r Жыл бұрын

Honestly hard to justify having max below a 99. He’s pretty much as perfect as you can get. I get why he’s a 97, but it’s really hard to point out an area where he’s not basically perfect

@calvinchesler7604 Жыл бұрын

I love tommo, and I think he’s very fair, but I genuinely don’t believe that lando is better than Carlos. Carlos beat him every time he was at mclaren, and when he moved to Ferrari, he beat leclerc in his first season, was equal to him in the second half of 22, and is beating him now. I think he has the measure of lando.

@dontjuulnotcool4673 Жыл бұрын

I think they have inaccurate ratings to have people talk about them and get free advertising

@Theomann_ Жыл бұрын

You should have done community rating first, then shown your own imo. Might have biased the score

@argg963 Жыл бұрын

Lecrlerc not 92/93.. probably 90/91 in my opinion. It's also about consistently getting the points. Sainz is not as good as Leclerc but is consistent.