I ranked EVERY BOSS so you don't have to [Elden Ring, Dark Souls, Bloodborne, Sekiro, Demon's Souls]

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Jeff

Jeff

Күн бұрын

Watch a nobodies Opinion on Bosses from Elden Ring, Dark Souls, Bloodborne, Sekiro and Demon's Souls. And don't forget to tell me in the comments how wrong you are by disagreeing with me.
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Music:
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Otherwise mostly just the game OSTs
Chapters:
0:00 Tier Lists are a thing that people watch
1:33 FULL TIMESTAMPS FOR EACH BOSS IN COMMENTS
1:57 CHAPTER 1: Demon's Souls Intro
2:50 CHAPTER 1: Demon's Souls
18:46 FULL RANKING: Demon's Souls
19:04 CHAPTER 2: Dark Souls 1 Intro
19:50 CHAPTER 2: Dark Souls 1 Base Game
45:26 CHAPTER 2: Dark Souls 1 DLC: Artorias of the Abyss
51:46 CHAPTER 2: Dark Souls 1 (Gwyn)
53:47 FULL RANKING: Dark Souls 1
54:19 CHAPTER 3: Dark Souls 2 Intro
55:24 CHAPTER 3: Dark Souls 2 Base Game
1:26:46 CHAPTER 3: Dark Souls 2 DLC: Crown of the Sunken King
1:29:51 CHAPTER 3: Dark Souls 2 DLC: Crown of the Old Iron King
1:33:32 CHAPTER 3: Dark Souls 2 DLC: Crown of the Ivory King
1:37:59 FULL RANKING: Dark Souls 2
1:38:22 CHAPTER 4: Bloodborne Intro
1:39:24 CHAPTER 4: Bloodborne Base Game
1:59:38 CHAPTER 4: Bloodborne DLC: The Old Hunters
2:07:56 FULL RANKING: Bloodborne
2:08:34 CHAPTER 5: Dark Souls 3
2:29:10 CHAPTER 5: Dark Souls 3 DLC: Ashes of Ariandel
2:31:51 CHAPTER 5: Dark Souls 3 DLC: The Ringed City
2:36:02 FULL RANKING: Dark Souls 3
2:36:29 CHAPTER 6: Sekiro Intro
2:37:11 CHAPTER 6: Sekiro
2:52:08 FULL RANKING: Sekiro
2:52:26 CHAPTER 7: Elden Ring Intro
2:55:30 CHAPTER 7: Elden Ring
3:54:02 FULL RANKING: Elden Ring
3:55:01 TOTAL FULL RANKING
3:56:33 GAME RANKINGS
#TierList #EldenRing #DarkSouls

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@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
FULL TIMESTAMPS: (KZfaq seemingly has a max of 100 chapters per video, so had to put them here) 0:00 Intro 1:57 CHAPTER 1: Demon's Souls 2:50 Vanguard 3:35 Phalanx 4:57 Tower Knight 5:55 Penetrator 6:43 Armor Spider 7:23 Flamelurker 8:41 Dragon God 9:56 Fool's Idol 11:00 Maneaters 11:55 Old Monk 12:30 Adjudicator 13:18 Old Hero 13:56 Storm King 14:33 Leechmonger 15:16 Dirty Colossus 15:45 Maiden Astraea 17:17 Old King Allant 18:46 FULL RANKING: Demon's Souls 19:04 CHAPTER 2: Dark Souls 1 19:50 Asylum Demon 21:35 Taurus Demon 22:50 Bell Gargoyles 24:58 Moonlight Butterfly 25:46 Great Grey Wolf Sif 27:42 Capra Demon 28:21 Pinwheel 29:25 Gaping Dragon 30:18 Chaos Witch Quelaag 31:17 Iron Golem 32:14 Ornstein & Smough 35:24 Ceaseless Discharge 36:16 Demon Firesage 36:43 Stray Demon 37:05 Centipede Demon 37:56 Bed of Chaos 40:06 Four Kings 41:05 Gravelord Nito 42:02 Seath the Scaleless 43:16 Crossbreed Priscilla 44:22 Dark Sun Gwyndolin 45:26 Sanctuary Guardian 47:12 Knight Artorias 49:23 Manus, Father of the Abyss 50:18 Black Dragon Kalameet 51:46 Gwyn, Lord of Cinder 53:47 FULL RANKING: Dark Souls 1 54:19 CHAPTER 3: Dark Souls 2 55:24 The Last Giant 56:57 The Pursuer 58:23 Ruin Sentinels 1:00:10 Royal Rat Vanguard 1:00:45 Dragonrider 1:01:23 Flexile Sentry 1:02:14 The Rotten 1:03:13 Belfry Gargoyles 1:04:10 The Lost Sinner 1:05:06 Scorpioness Najka 1:05:41 Prowling Magus & Congregation 1:06:00 The Duke's Dear Freja 1:06:40 Old Dragonslayer 1:07:23 Executioner's Chariot 1:08:15 Skeleton Lords 1:09:02 Covetous Demon 1:09:30 Mytha, the Baneful Queen 1:10:22 Smelter Demon (red) 1:11:28 Old Iron King 1:12:40 Royal Rat Authority 1:13:18 Twin Dragonriders 1:13:30 Looking Glass Knight 1:14:26 Demon of Song 1:15:13 Velstadt, the Royal Aegis 1:15:56 Vendrick 1:17:28 Guardian Dragon 1:18:48 Ancient Dragon 1:19:36 Giant Lord 1:20:34 Darklurker 1:23:09 Throne Watcher & Defender 1:24:23 Nashandra 1:25:54 Aldia, Scholar of the First Sin 1:26:46 Gank Squad 1:27:40 Elana, the Squalid Queen 1:28:47 Sinh, the Slumbering Dragon 1:29:51 Smelter Demon (blue) 1:30:28 Fume Knight 1:31:38 Sir Alonne 1:33:32 Aava, the King's Pet 1:34:56 Lud and Zallen 1:35:44 Burnt Ivory King 1:37:59 FULL RANKING: Dark Souls 2 1:38:22 CHAPTER 4: Bloodborne 1:39:24 Cleric Beast 1:40:58 Father Gascoigne 1:42:57 Blood-starved Beast 1:43:44 Darkbeast Paarl 1:45:26 Vicar Amelia 1:46:04 Witches of Hemwick 1:46:42 Shadows of Yharnam 1:47:32 Rom, the Vacuous Spider 1:48:37 Martyr Logarius 1:49:30 The One Reborn 1:50:25 Amygdala 1:51:28 Micolash, Host of the Nightmare 1:52:10 Mergo's Wet Nurse 1:53:34 Celestial Emissary 1:53:59 Ebrietas, Daughter of the Cosmos 1:56:04 Gehrman, the First Hunter 1:57:17 Moon Presence 1:59:38 Ludwig, the Accursed 2:02:02 Living Failures 2:02:52 Lady Maria of the Astral Clocktower 2:04:19 Orphan of Kos 2:05:50 Laurence, the first Vicar 2:07:56 FULL RANKING: Bloodborne 2:08:34 CHAPTER 5: Dark Souls 3 2:09:38 Iudex Gundyr 2:10:54 Vordt of the Boreal Valley 2:11:48 Curse-rotted Greatwood 2:12:28 Crystal Sage 2:13:03 Deacons of the Deep 2:13:45 Abyss Watchers 2:15:00 High Lord Wolnir 2:16:01 Old Demon King 2:17:15 Pontiff Sulyvahn 2:18:09 Yhorm the Giant 2:18:54 Aldrich, Devourer of Gods 2:19:43 Dancer of the Boreal Valley 2:21:19 Oceiros, the Consumed King 2:21:53 Champion Gundyr 2:22:41 Dragonslayer Armour 2:23:42 Twin Princes 2:25:09 Ancient Wyvern 2:25:50 Nameless King 2:27:51 Soul of Cinder 2:29:10 Champion's Gravetender & Greatwolf 2:29:51 Sister Friede 2:31:51 Demon Prince 2:32:56 Darkeater Midir 2:33:57 Halflight, Spear of the Church 2:34:40 Slave Knight Gael 2:36:02 FULL RANKING: Dark Souls 3 2:36:29 CHAPTER 6: Sekiro 2:37:11 Gyoubu Oniwa 2:38:07 Lady Butterfly 2:39:24 Genichiro Ashina 2:40:10 Folding Screen Monkeys 2:40:57 Guardian Ape 2:42:15 Headless Ape 2:42:59 Corrupted Monk 2:43:28 Great Shinobi Owl 2:44:25 True Monk 2:45:27 Owl (Father) 2:46:28 Divine Dragon 2:47:43 Demon of Hatred 2:49:18 Sword Saint Isshin 2:50:48 Isshin Ashina 2:52:08 FULL RANKING: Sekiro 2:52:26 CHAPTER 7: Elden Ring 2:55:30 Tree Sentinel 2:56:58 Flying Dragon Agheel 2:58:25 Margit, the Fell Omen 2:59:34 Godrick the Grafted 3:00:54 Leonine Misbegotten 3:01:48 Red Wolf of Radagon 3:02:50 Rannala, Queen of the Full Moon 3:03:55 Royal Knight Loretta 3:04:30 Dragonkin Soldier 3:05:42 Magma Wyrm Makar 3:06:29 Starscourge Radahn 3:09:20 Mimic Tear 3:10:15 Ancestor Spirit 3:11:16 Regal Ancestor Spirit 3:12:28 Valiant Gargoyles 3:14:34 Fallingstar Beast 3:16:24 Godskin Noble 3:17:35 Rykard, Lord of Blasphemy 3:19:20 Astel, Naturalborn of the Void 3:20:06 Elemer of the Briar 3:20:45 Lichdragon Fortissax 3:23:00 Draconic Tree Sentinel 3:24:40 Mohg the Omen 3:25:43 Godfrey, First Elden Lord 3:26:27 Morgott, the Omen King 3:27:58 Commander Niall 3:30:24 Mohg, Lord of Blood 3:32:12 Loretta, Knight of the Haligtree 3:33:00 Malenia, Blade of Miquella 3:39:26 Fire Giant 3:41:01 Godskin Duo 3:42:32 Dragonlord Placidusax 3:43:29 Maliketh, the Black Blade 3:45:04 Sir Gideon Ofnir, the All-Knowing 3:46:26 Hoarah Loux, Warrior 3:47:56 Radagon of the Golden Order 3:49:30 Elden Beast 3:54:02 FULL RANKING: Elden Ring 3:55:01 TOTAL FULL RANKING 3:56:33 GAME RANKINGS
@imemmag
@imemmag Жыл бұрын
My man thats a lot of awesome work you just did. Great video!
@chupelo-7372
@chupelo-7372 Жыл бұрын
I honestly was shocked looking at your followers. You deserve a lot more. I can only imagine how much work you put into this video. Keep going!!
@earthpart3
@earthpart3 Жыл бұрын
Same
@yikes6969
@yikes6969 Жыл бұрын
Bro was shocked 😂😂😂
@darkwraith9548
@darkwraith9548 Жыл бұрын
Dude this video is so well made. You deserve at least 100 000 followers!
@thebuddah1253
@thebuddah1253 Жыл бұрын
I'm at the point where I really don't care about people's opinions on "the good bosses" as they're all the same. "This boss has good attacks that are fun to dodge." These games have never had insanely deep combat so that's basically all you can say about them.
@Lando9807
@Lando9807 2 ай бұрын
Tbf it is super interesting to see people's takes on the mid/up-in-the-air bosses
@ZeikerYT
@ZeikerYT Ай бұрын
From software has the best bosses. Tell me games that have bosses as good as from software games.
@thebuddah1253
@thebuddah1253 Ай бұрын
@@ZeikerYT nioh has better action bosses and combat. Devil may cry too. Ninja gaiden too. Many many games have better bosses and combat. Pressing roll at the right time is getting old.
@ZeikerYT
@ZeikerYT Ай бұрын
@@thebuddah1253 You are talking nonsense. First of all, evasion and block are the only mechanics to not take damage in games. Parry derivates from blocking and evasion can be rolling or running to make space. This are the basics and all games rely on this, ninja gaiden, dmc or nioh are no exception. So in souls games you can roll, sprint, block or parry, same in devil may cry for example, you can roll, dash farther away with trickster, or block and parry with royalguard. Second, I know hack and slash games have more complex combat systems, those games almost exclusively rely on combat and are short and made to play 2 or 3 times to enjoy them fully. I love that genre. However more does not always mean best. You can have very good bossfights with simple mechanics, like souls games, hollow knight, furi or cuphead, to give some examples. the key is to give the bosses a good moveset. Lastly. Dmc games are great, I love them and their bosses are very good but not better than the best souls bosses. Best bosses in the series are cerberus, beowulf, agni and rudra, vergil from dmc 3, credo angelo, cavaliere angelo, king cerberus, urizen, vergil from dmc5 and dante from dmc 5. Some great bosses, but max 4 great bosses per game. On the other hand, in souls games you have such a massive list of great bosses that are as good as dmc and even better. Isshin for me is the best boss of all time, and gael and friede would be second and third. But you also have so many awesome bosses like malenia, godfrey, morgott, mohg, placidusax, maliketh, ludwig, lady maria, orphan of kos, king of the storm, midir, pontiff sulyvahn, abyss watchers, lorian and lothric, guardian ape, genichiro, corrupted monk, owl father and the list goes on and on. I only played half of ninja gaiden sigma, 2 years ago and I don't remeber any great bosses. I also finished sigma 2 like 12 years ago but don't have fond memories of the bosses. As for nioh I only played like 6 hours. So I can't talk a lot about these games. I should play ninja gaiden and nioh series in the future. However I don't tend to see bosses from this games in tops of best bosses in gaming, and there should be a reason.
@thebuddah1253
@thebuddah1253 Ай бұрын
@@ZeikerYT cannot parry mohg or Godfrey or placidusax or ludwig. You can only avoid attacks and then attack during their openings. They don't have that much depth. Like them all you want but they're nothing special. Also don't wall of text me bro it isn't that complicated to talk about it. Niohs bosses are far superior.
@Corrupted
@Corrupted Жыл бұрын
Jesus alter, was für ein Masterpiece Video - absolut genial, well done!
@ivanchaki372
@ivanchaki372 Жыл бұрын
gr8 list m8 Personally my S+ would look like Malenia Maliketh Gael Isshin Godfrey Morgott Mohg Orphan Radagon Inner Owl Ludwig Friede Nameless King Radahn Artorias And yeah this is pretty much ranked. WHile I don't think bosses are the strongest aspect of Elden Ring, it certainly has the highest number of my favorite ones. Malenia atm is my favorite boss and the only ones that come close are Maliketh, Gael, Dante/Vergil and Fatalis.
@StigmataCrucible
@StigmataCrucible Жыл бұрын
This video was sick, loved every second of your analysis and humour. Do you think you'd ever consider talking about areas or questlines?
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed :) I considered making an area one some day, but don't know when I'll get around to doing that.
@starwarsfan729
@starwarsfan729 3 сағат бұрын
Finally some Dancer love lmao. My favourite Soulsborne fight. Loved the video and you gained a subscriber!
@kr0w_grayman833
@kr0w_grayman833 Жыл бұрын
Earned a sub man this video is peak content. But isshin the sword saint at B+ is crazy
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
I definitely seem to be in the minority when it comes to isshin. The thing that surprised me the most was how much people struggled with him. For me, he was in the easier half of sekiro bosses, while for most people he seems to be the hardest (or second-hardest after demon of hatred).
@kr0w_grayman833
@kr0w_grayman833 Жыл бұрын
​@@JeffqedI guess that's valid. Still, I think that you have to show mastery of the combat to beat him. Personally in my top 3
@crackshot3454
@crackshot3454 Жыл бұрын
One of the most in depth review videos I’ve ever seen on anything, deserves way more attention that it’s received, I didn’t watch the full thing, HOWEVER I did watch DS1-3 and sekiro/elden ring, I haven’t play demon souls or blood borne (Xbox) so I didn’t care much to see how you reviewed them, overall ‘amazing’ video
@Jay_daewi
@Jay_daewi Жыл бұрын
W video man. I was watching this while I was on a large drive. You have a nice voice and you’re talking about games I love. Def dropping a sub
@noonyabeezniss4911
@noonyabeezniss4911 Жыл бұрын
Solid A+ editing and layout of the video m8 Jeff got the swaws
@palebloodgamer3456
@palebloodgamer3456 Жыл бұрын
A great video jeff cant wait to see more
@hugomay4238
@hugomay4238 Жыл бұрын
You are the first german that has mastered humour. Love the accent, love the video, loved the interesting takes you had!! More long form from soft content would be a blessing from you!
@whoscooler2756
@whoscooler2756 Жыл бұрын
Great video, you definitely deserve more subs
@RandomPerson-rt8zt
@RandomPerson-rt8zt Жыл бұрын
This was a very well made video, you can certainly tell a lot of effort was put into it. I agree with most of the rankings especially with Melania being a great boss once you have mastered her. However, the one thing I do find strange is that Morgott is placed below Margit, when I personally see Morgott as a direct upgrade in terms of move set and the pace of the fight. He might honestly be my favourite Elden Ring boss when you fight him at the right level. Also, I will be very interested to hear your thoughts on the Elden Ring expansion bosses when the DLC comes out
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed 11 ай бұрын
Thank you :) In a Vacuum, I agree. Morgott is more fun to fight than margit. The reason that margit ranks higher despite that is their role in the game: margit is pretty much the first major boss you'll encounter and he teaches you a lot of the game, from the design centering around delayed attacks to things like "go somewhere else if it's too much". Morgott on the other hand is pretty much the first big central boss of the game, being the first real big mandatory boss (aside from goldfrey before him but I don't really count him) and considering for the first part of the game your goal is the erdtree and he is right there he's basically what you're working towards for the first at least like 30, in my case more than 100, hours of your casual play through. So he has a massive build up. The issue however is that due to that his balancing is really difficult to do and in most cases just way off. On my first playthrough I completely rolled him because I was so strong when I got to him and it was kinda disappointing considering the pivotal position he has. Most people I watched had a similar experience. Only in my lvl1 playthrough I really started to appreciate the fight design of him. So yeah, Margit is higher just based on him fulfilling his role better. It's just an unfortunate placement for morgott in the structure of the game I feel. I think it wouldve been totally fine to make him quite a bit stronger and force some casual players to explore more.
@RandomPerson-rt8zt
@RandomPerson-rt8zt 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I mostly agree with you there. I would personally be fine with Morgott having double the health and 50% more damage to encourage players to explore the rest of the world before they reach the end game difficulty spike. He would probably be more beloved by the community that way. However, I never really had the issue of being over levelled for him since on most play throughs I go straight from Rennala to Morgott, which is probably what the developers intended the progression route to be. Hence why Morgott is one of my favourite bosses.
@friend4596
@friend4596 Жыл бұрын
subbing entirely for that fact that you really made a 4 hour video as someone with 250 subs, jesus.
@lucbusby7545
@lucbusby7545 Жыл бұрын
I guarantee he saw that Artorias and Sif were in S tier together and was like, "Thats really heartwarming". Owner and his loyal companion.
@ClicheDudeStuff
@ClicheDudeStuff Жыл бұрын
less than 400 subs is insane. great job
@maximilianbehrens3471
@maximilianbehrens3471 Жыл бұрын
Wow, only 6 comments so far. With the length and production value, i wouldnt have imagined this to be such a small channel. Im only halfway through, but i wanted to comment for the Algorithm :P
@Kidkinsey
@Kidkinsey Жыл бұрын
Wow I never noticed that the flamelurker got brighter depending on his HP and I played the OG demon souls BRO I had NO idea about that item mechanic thing for the leechmonger. This video is great and I'm 16 minutes in I'd have false king allant higher but I agree with your overall point. Demons souls highlight is the atmosphere and boss runs not necessarily the bosses
@hellisahellofatime
@hellisahellofatime Жыл бұрын
Amazing video
@thegreatbio
@thegreatbio Жыл бұрын
I gotta say the mimic tear gag set up was great
@HeyTarnished
@HeyTarnished Жыл бұрын
I agree with a lot of your list, Malenia might probably be my best boss in all of the Soulsborne series, absolutely amazing boss, chad S+++ for her. For me it's Malenia, Mohg Lord of Blood, Ludwig, Radahn & Gehrman, best 5 bosses in the series.
@QDY358-nn1qj
@QDY358-nn1qj 9 ай бұрын
Agree with you 100%. She’s honestly my favorite boss out of any game. Also agree on your top 5 except Id switch Radahn and Ludwig with Gael and Lady Maria.
@happydais5267
@happydais5267 Жыл бұрын
57:07 this is where i left, i'm going out for groceries and i'll be back in an hour maybe
@Wesleysnipes87
@Wesleysnipes87 Жыл бұрын
This video was legit so good
@alexmaques6040
@alexmaques6040 Жыл бұрын
rly good video...!
@yup7380
@yup7380 Жыл бұрын
When it comes to Isshin, I think he is a great boss that is challenging but also possible to beat very quick with minimum death especially if you explore Sekiro (beat almost every mini bosses and conqeuer Ashina Style) which makes him very well designed. Also about the grass, I never had any trouble with that. This is the first time, I heard someone has issue with it. Cool and unique opinion. Isshin movements are telegraphed very clear to me especially since his spear attacks are not that fast, makes sense since it's a heavy weapon especially handled with just one arm. Also I'm not trying to hate ur opinion but I don't see how he is a rehash ? Because he has ashina style attack, spear and lightning ? If so, I find that to be unfair criticism. Just because he has something that a certain boss and spear mini bosses have doesn't make him a rehash. After all he is the sword saint who taught Ashina style. I think it's a nice touch that Genichiro minions has similarities to Isshin. Makes a lot of sense that Genichiro and his boys learned it from him except the lightning which came from Tomoe. Saying Owl is another repeat is also kinda unfair. You literally go back to the past and met him. Ofc, he will be similar except he is stronger with some twist to his moveset. The way you criticise makes it sounds that repeat boss is bad even though it can be good when done right. Genichiro is a good example. Baldur from God of War is a good example as well. You even said Morgott is good. Anyway nice video and it's cool to see a different refreshing take on ER bosses. I don't think they are as bad as some people said. Also about Placidusax, he is a crippled dragon. Him being static and not moving too much, relying on magic instead of physical attacks like Midir makes sense. I think he is a refreshing take on dragon but I can see why you don't really like it.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Rehash is too harsh a word for isshin, he certainly isn't one and I will correct myself if I called him that. I do however stand by the fact that he does nothing new (except for the gun), just slight variations on things I already saw at that point. If he was at a different point of the game I would have rated him higher, I just wanted more from the final boss. That's also just one factor why I rated him lower. His last phase can be done in 2 seconds without much trouble thanks to lightning reversal, like I said I had some issues with the arena, the genichiro phase is underwhelming, phases one and two feel very disconnected... I think he's comparable to the soul of cinder in many ways, as that one's also a chain of variations on stuff you've already seen. That one doesn't have the issues mentioned above but isshin's 1st and 2nd phase are simply more fun, resulting in isshin still having a higher rating. If this was a boss midgame and it was just the first two phases of isshin, it would be somewhere high A+/ low S- (for S+ really would want something new, something that stands out), but context matters and genichiro and his third phase drag him down as well. As for owl, well, it is a repeat. Now, that by itself is not the issue, and he's well integrated in the game. There are other repeats/reiterations on the same/similar boss that I loved, see for example iudex/champion gundyr. However I still see it as an issue here because of two reasons: 1) he's too close to the first fight. Take iudex and champion gundyr, there were like 30+ hours playtime between encountering these 2. While here, I encountered the second owl fight like an hour after the first. That just felt cheap when I played it. It takes me out of the game and disrupts the game flow to see a repeat so soon. 2) Sekiro has so few bosses as is. Only 14. And you have isshin twice, Ape twice, monk twice, owl twice... (Even genichiro thrice in a way) it simply felt too many repeats in such a short game. DS1 had 2 repeats out of 26 bosses and that felt too much. If owl was the only repeat I wouldn't have nearly as much of an issue with him. It's just, when I play and am expecting a cool new boss and see the same guy I just fought again I just go "really?..." and that disappointment takes a while to go as well as that it breaks my immersion as it feels cheap. The boss can be fucking amazing and it will still personally leave a bit of salt in my mouth. It's like when you're watching a show and after 20 episodes the bad guy finally gets struck down in a massive climax only for the next 20 episodes to be about how the guy got struck down in the past already. No matter how good the second story is, it's the wrong place for it and no show does it that way. It just disrupts the flow and makes it feel artificial. Anyway hope you still enjoyed it :)
@yup7380
@yup7380 Жыл бұрын
@@Jeffqed I enjoy it, especially when someone has different opinion. Isshin is the culmination of the games has taught you and I liked him for that. My friend beat him on second try while I died 60 times against him lol. When playing Sekiro, I skipped or use a lot of chese around the bosses while he fully embraced it. That's why I love Isshin, he is the final test to the game. The fact that you best him easily, I think shows how well the game taught you. As for Owl, that's a fair reasoning. I can see that. Also I'm surprised you found Gael to be dragged out a bit.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
@@yup7380 glad to hear it! That point on Gael was really just a very very minor, almost miniscule point, cuz I really couldn't think of much else that was negative. I think it also has to do with the fact that I usually don't want fights to end quick so level up other things than my DPS and for most bosses that feels right but it felt as if he was balanced for you to basically be at the softcaps everywhere and I deliberately wasn't, so you can also just blame that on my builds and ignore it completely, that would be fair too, just felt the balancing was ever so slightly off anyway compared to the bosses around him (like 10% less health would already be enough). I also did him before midir first playthrough so that might also contribute to it.
@yup7380
@yup7380 Жыл бұрын
@@Jeffqed I see, also I want to add about Isshin becoming easier. I always see it that in his 3rd phase, he started to hesitate. His quote is Hesitation is defeat. You beat him on his second phase caused him to be like that. In 3rd phase, he started to use more long ranged attack with his wind slash and lightning. Idk if this is intentional by From but I'd like to see it that way. As for Gencihiro, he is just a reminder or showcase just how far you have progressed. In the second fight on top of the tower, he feels like a formidable opponent. Now he is nothing but a punch bag warm up for Isshin's fight.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
@@yup7380 that's an interesting way to look at isshin's third phase, I like it. And yeah I got that but genichiro isn't that fun to play and gets annoying after a bit. I wouldn't have minded him staying dead, then no complaints. (Lore is kinda iffy/unclear/unwritten around the black mortal blade anyway afaik, would barely need to explain that)
@soulstarved4116
@soulstarved4116 Жыл бұрын
I unironically think Micolash is a solid boss. It's definitely bad, but I love the concept of chasing him through a labyrinth. And then gain the ability to insta-kill you is hilarious, because you have to do that whole game of tag over again. Makes for great content watching other people rage out. Perfect characterization of some annoying troll character like Micolash. I just wish they added a bit more depth to his boss fight. Like maybe during phase two, have him project clones of himself onto the puppets to run away and act as decoys. Maybe change the layout of the map to be more strategic. Definitely give him more attacks.
@trentnope2419
@trentnope2419 Жыл бұрын
I cant believe Owl is ranked E- underneath Champions GraveTender. Awazing video
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Honestly, yeah, fair point. Since doing this video i have played through DS3 two more times and re-fought some bosses in sekiro including Great Shinobi Owl, and Champions Gravetender sucks more ass than i remembered and Owl, while still not a great fight imho, is not quite as bad as i remember. Thats always the problem with these videos, they are a in-the-moment-opinion thats gonna slightly change with time. If i did the video now i would likely move Owl up to E+ and Champions Gravetender down to bottom E-, maybe even F+. But you know what, its close enough as it is^^
@abreu7756
@abreu7756 2 ай бұрын
W list!
@sveintheberserk
@sveintheberserk Жыл бұрын
Dragon = 4 legs 2 wings. Wyvern = 2 legs 2 wings.
@jdizzle8412
@jdizzle8412 Жыл бұрын
the route you did in DS2 is awesome
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
If i didn't have the company of champions active without knowing how it would hurt me I'd agree with you :D
@benaskrensintellect332
@benaskrensintellect332 Жыл бұрын
Broooo such a good quality video. But i gata know who is the guy streaming at 3:23 on the dracon tree sentinel who says the boss a stupid horse man and that he is the real man??!! Lmao that was so funny i want to find out who that is and i cant find him so far
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Thanks :) That's Atrioc
@benaskrensintellect332
@benaskrensintellect332 Жыл бұрын
@@Jeffqed broooo my homiee. U replied and u did it fast. I appreciate u. Ur gana blow up u got the quality 90 percent of bigger channels dont even have. I wuda never found that guy that name is so random lol
@sebs-shenanigans
@sebs-shenanigans Жыл бұрын
A a small-time creator myself, I could not help dropping in to toss you a nice comment of encouragement and a few kind words. I could not care less about souls likes, but I cannot help but be taken aback by the sheer *girth* of the video, almost clocking it at 4 hours! The sheer force of will and labor put into it must be monumental! However, If I am to give you one small advice, it is to definitely add "Fromsoft" or some other indicator in the name that will let others know what exactly you are speaking about. I'd advise not letting people assume your intentions from your thumbnail and just give them blatant info in the title. God speed and good luck bud. May your hard work bear fruit most pleasant.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! It's definitely not something that will pay off in any way, but i wanted to do a big project (for myself mostly, i enjoy working on them a lot) and this seemed like the most doable one. I did consider a bunch of different titles, but decided on using thumbnail+title to provide the context necessary. It's fairly common these days and i feel having the title be a bit more vague works better, though an argument could be made that that doesn't apply as much for longform videos, as only people really interested in the topic will watch it in the first place. It's definitely a good point and i might change it after giving it a nights think, let's see.
@palebloodgamer3456
@palebloodgamer3456 Жыл бұрын
@@Jeffqed you make great content man. I sit and wait for the day you make it big time
@Sangheilitat117
@Sangheilitat117 Жыл бұрын
I can't say I agree with most of your critiques about SS Ishin. In my opinion, he is THE best boss From has ever created, not just in terms of gameplay but in terms of theming, arena, finality, etc. I can't really see how you figure that he's a rehash of a bunch of previous bosses, because the vast majority of his moves are completely unique with unique rhythms, and the arts he performs like Ichimonji, Ashina Cross, and Dragon Flash are almost entirely unique mechanics that the player will never have seen an enemy use before; which is one thing that makes the fight so cool - you finally see the guy that created the moves that you've been using use them against YOU. You also mention that coming back to the same arena you originally fought Genichiro in at the game's start also feels like rehashing, but I think you're missing the point of it - which is the cyclical nature of returning and ending the game where you started it. A lot of Sekiro's overall theming is about cycles of rebirth and overtones of Buddhism, and ending the game in the susuki grass field that you started in is one of the most concrete examples of that. Also, this might just be personal, but I had no issues with the susuki grass obscuring his movements. If they did, it's also quite easy to drag him into the muddy roaded areas of the arena and fight out of the grass. Lastly, I halfway agree with you that Isshin can be an easy-ish fight for some players (I died for about 3 hours to him, more than Demon of Hatred,) but I'd like to point out that his last phase is not his hardest, it's by far his easiest. Lightning moves are basically a free win for the player, as any halfway experienced player at that point can reliably deflect lightning to deal massive health and poise damage to Genichiro/Isshin, in addition to stunlocking them for several seconds. Third phase SS Isshin is literally just the second phase but with more lightning cheese for the player to exploit. Honestly, if I could redesign SS Isshin I would remove the lightning entirely as I feel it makes him too easy, and in fact many mod creators who have overhauled the fight have done exactly that. The one thing I absolutely agree with you about is that his first and second phases feel quite disconnected gameplay-wise. I wish that his second phase included more moves from his first phase, as only a few carry over from phase one to phase two. I'm aware I've typed out an entire essay about this, but I want to close by saying overall, you did a great job with this list and it clearly took a lot of time, effort, and gameplay. Amazing video.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the praise, dont worry about typing out an essay, i wouldnt have made a 4 hour video about it if i didnt enjoy discussing the design choices :) Now as to your points: >I can't really see how you figure that he's a rehash of a bunch of previous bosses, because the vast majority of his moves are completely unique with unique rhythms Im not gonna go through all the minibosses to compare the moves side by side, but when i first fought isshin most attacks felt extremely familiar and i got the timings almost instinctively, which is what you would expect if i've seen those attacks before. On the other hand, Isshin Ashina (Shura Route boss) felt like it used timings that were completely alien to the rest of the game. This is purely going off feeling while fighting him, to be clear. >You also mention that coming back to the same arena you originally fought Genichiro in at the game's start also feels like rehashing I think you misunderstood me here, i never criticized the boss for reusing the arena. Yeah, its the classic trope of going back to where it started, which as you said isnt used just that time throughout the game, thats fine, dont have any issue with it. What i said was "its not a bad way to finish off a game [...] but overall, its actually kind of underwhelming in that it's just a rehash. The arena and atmosphere is great, but like mentioned, they bring their own issues with them." Those issues for the arena are the visibility ones, not the game reusing it. >If they did, it's also quite easy to drag him into the muddy roaded areas of the arena and fight out of the grass. I think its fundamentally bad design if you have to avoid large portions of the arena because of things like that. >but I'd like to point out that his last phase is not his hardest, it's by far his easiest Agreed, thats why i put "fairly easy, especially his last phase" in the endcard for the boss. His third phase is a joke and quite anti-climactic, i first tried it personally.
@Sangheilitat117
@Sangheilitat117 Жыл бұрын
@@JeffqedOh, I somehow misread your last point as “fairly easy, EXCEPT the last phase.”
@vlkafenryka
@vlkafenryka Жыл бұрын
I was overjoyed to see that you chose the correct ending in Elden Ring!!! Same as me xD
@Kidkinsey
@Kidkinsey Жыл бұрын
Everybody gangsta till sister friede gets up
@joanne1gray
@joanne1gray Жыл бұрын
Tower knight sealed my love of Souls games.
@ino7604
@ino7604 Жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity what are you going to school for? Great video also i usually dont like super long videos but i love souls games and you were entertaining to listen to
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Thank you :) I'm currently doing my Master Thesis in math at university.
@ino7604
@ino7604 Жыл бұрын
​@Jeff damn I knew you'd be smart lol. Are you German? I'm from the U.S but a friend of mine is German and his accent sounds like yours.. I hope I didn't get it wrong lol
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
@@ino7604 academic success does not equal intelligence, im reminded of that every day :D and yeah im german.
@ino7604
@ino7604 Жыл бұрын
@@Jeffqed I never said they're equal. But to be doing a masters thesis in mathematics I'd think you'd have to be. Anyway I've subscribed thanks 😊
@Kamilslaw
@Kamilslaw 7 ай бұрын
Gael is S++ can't argue with that, it's the most perfect boss that fromsoftware ever created.
@Biyn_acc2
@Biyn_acc2 Жыл бұрын
Least comitted Souls Enjoyer Seriously mad respect for just putting out a 3 hour video for just feeling like it. 😊
@Marcus-lg4pg
@Marcus-lg4pg Жыл бұрын
I think the problem with sanctuary guardian is that is animations are kinda janky. Maybe that’s because of the increase in speed in the dlc, or maybe it was a boss that had under developed animations.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Yeah that could very well be the cause of my issue with it. Even for the dlc that boss just feels kind of strange to me. The other ones clearly have the same increased speed, so maybe this one was just a late addition to fatten the dlc some more in terms of content.
@WereScrib
@WereScrib Жыл бұрын
my notes: Moonlit Butterfly: When I first played the butterfly killed me more than any other boss in the game and I legitimately mentally think of it as the hardest enemy in the game. I know this isn't the case, but due to using early 60FPS patches for Prepare to Die, his damage ticks were such that he could instantly vaporize you if he hit, so it was like, a tense, deadly hell fight. The only way to survive a hit was with the stone knight shield, so I had to like, two hand it due to my strength before swapping to a short bow to pepper, then to melee. As hilarious as it is, it's my experience. Fight has great atmosphere and music at least. Ornstein and Smough: This is controversial. I didn't get the big deal either. Neither phase was hard and neither end version felt difficult. it took me a couple tries and frankly I was bad at the game. Being that I was playing mostly blind, I was dumbstruck why people later thought they were like a pinnacle of the game. Going back to it, they're fun, but not particularly difficult or notable. Sanctuary Guardian: I think the problem with the sanctuary Guardian is exactly what you listed as positives. He has this fast, relentless attack that'd feel more in place as a lategame dark souls 2 boss, (assuming you have adaptability) due to the general faster movement and reaction. He feels completely out of place in DS1 where very deliberate movements are how the game is designed. ((Also he's annoying because he is almost immune to magic damage and can be a complete stonewall to a magic user but that's an aside)) On top of that, he's just kind of boring. He has no real feel beyond 'jumps at you, attacks a lot. BIG AOE..! Leaps at you across hte map if you try to have spacing, repeat.' Ds1 is fundamentally about spacing, and that's why he's so...not enjoyable? He feels like an average boss from some crap shovelware hack and slash from 2005 except in DS you're not supposed to take his attacks 40 times during the fight and rely on healing/level/whatever. DS2 in general: Honestly the thing about DS2 is the bosses are not the attraction, and a lot get more interesting/more interesting combats/attacks/totally changed gameworld in NG+. It's hard to judge it cos bosses are definitely not the focus of DS2. Often they're just checkpoints between the harder part, the levels. Which is I think why I prefer SOTFS a lot. It makes the world feel more intense and alive. But I'm in the 'it's my favorite' a lot of that is its PVP community was so heads and above over the others with expansive and strange covenants, weird arenas and a huge amount of equipment and magic options. The boss 'runs' are often the boss more than the boss, it's a very different game that I think ran highly contrary to expectations of the community. I mean, it was the only game in which you had pvp regularly seeing just about every weapon class, every magic class, every RANGED weapon class and the majority of infusions all show up regularly in its pvp community and that's why it was so much fun. Playing DS2 without multiplayer is definitely the biggest let down of all of them, as while DS1's pvp/pve was...uh. Sometimes great and sometimes a forest shotgun. And DS3's was 'wow lets just not be invadable during certain periods because of a wall of dark fist ganks', DS2 was 'holy shit it's a guy with a dark-blast crossbow vs. A Sorceror vs. a UGS vs. a Tower shield shortsword??' it was unique and kind of amazing for that.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Moonlight Butterfly truly feels like a wasted opportunity since i pretty much like everything about it except the gameplay^^ Yeah, Sanctuary Guardian is just out of place. Feels like a mod that somehow made it into the dlc. And i dont think the dlc was so lacking in content that it was needed. On DS2, thats interesting, since most people say SOTFS makes it a lot worse. At some point, when ive recovered from my last playthrough, i wanna give the original DS2 a go to see how different it truly is.
@WereScrib
@WereScrib Жыл бұрын
@@Jeffqed I'll never agree with 'scholar made it worse' crowds. Scholar made it harder but brought the focus away from the (frankly garbage bosses) and onto the struggle through the levels with constant invasions and even expanded the weird 'NG+ is a different game' feel. Some changes are unnecessary, (all the extra knights in Iron Keep) but many just feel like properly making the game this slower, more deliberately paced game where you've got to rely on repairs and are encouraged to have more than one tool in your arsenal. But I also like the weird and funky invaders constantly throughout the title and the enemies more properly mixed. The one change that felt completely confused however is definitely Heide knights becoming less of a lone-scattered knighthood. It felt like that change was another 'change for the sake of change.' and was entirely spurred on by how the heide knight sword was such a absurd power spike so early.
@lil_sxrrxw
@lil_sxrrxw Жыл бұрын
bro i came to this channel by going through like 4 previous channels lmao
@OnionKnight12
@OnionKnight12 Жыл бұрын
I feel called out for already having a block of cheese when I clicked on this video
@austinniren6527
@austinniren6527 Жыл бұрын
Honestly this list slaps! You had such a weird encounter with ebrietas i dont think i could ever hope to replicate that lol. I do think though malenia is a unique and super cool designed boss but you really cant dismiss the fact of artificial difficulty. Realistically I and everyone else here probably died to the waterfell 80% of the time on that boss, not to mention the healing. Which heavily reduces the boss from what could be an easy s to a high B for me. The boss has so many cool other moves and traits but in the back of your mind fighting her your always waiting for that one move. Sadly reduces the rest of her and i wish you mentioned it more after putting in 18 hrs lol. It always begs the question how much better or actually hard would this boss be if she didn’t have those artificial difficulty implants lol. I might be able to have fun and notice more of the other moves. Also you made me start another bloodborne run youre so right that theres a lot going on behind the scenes other than the bosses.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Thank you :) I wouldnt categorize waterfowl as artificial difficulty tho. It still follows the same rules (mostly, the only thing where id say it doesnt is that theres very little punishment window after it for such a huge attack), its damage isnt absurd for that stage of the game, its just that its very hard to dodge, but its still pure mechanics. And to be honest, it feels so fucking good when you do a proper dodge of it, that makes it worth it for me. But as said in other comments, it certainly stretches the limits of what is acceptable and theres a discussion to be had about slight adjustments, but i dont think it needs to be fundamentally redesigned/scrapped at all. I cut out large parts of the malenia section, originally it was like 18 minutes but then i didnt want one section about one boss to be 18 minutes when theres more than 180+ total, so i had to remove large sections of it^^
@QDY358-nn1qj
@QDY358-nn1qj 9 ай бұрын
Waterfowl is not the only thing that makes it hard. The whole fight is hard, Waterfowl is only like 5-10% of that difficulty imo.
@lord23_80
@lord23_80 9 ай бұрын
this guy Actually called Isshin's fight "easy". yeah, surely didn't take me an entire day to finally get through his second phase.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed 9 ай бұрын
I think the fact that different fights are difficult for different people is a sign of a well designed game :)
@deadhelix
@deadhelix Жыл бұрын
wait im so confused is the original name not mirror knight? Ive heard mirror knight so much seeing the boss name as looking glass knight just looks wrong
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
You are actually correct, i just looked it up and the wiki says "Looking Glass Knight is a boss in Dark Souls 2. Formerly known as the Mirror Knight, this knight is clad in steel polished to a mirror finish." Apparently he was called Mirror Knight in the beta and people kept calling him that because no one past the 18th century ever said 'Looking Glass' to a mirror. Did not know that.
@YDwelve
@YDwelve Жыл бұрын
Amazing how similar our journeys are. I also prefer Mouse and Keyboard, also melee without summons and shield and also emulated Demon Souls old version.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
It's the PC Gamer's Way :)
@poopybaby9794
@poopybaby9794 Жыл бұрын
Until watching I had no idea you could defeat the bell witches in The One Reborn fight. Even with them around and shooting shit at you it's still piss easy.
@Kidkinsey
@Kidkinsey Жыл бұрын
I understand why gwyn was able to be parried for lore reasons but mannnnn was I hope he was some super OP boss. Atleast he isn't a pushover like king allant
@Lodestone8
@Lodestone8 Жыл бұрын
Wow y man grades hard, I disagree with many, but this is a good video.
@martinhenry7284
@martinhenry7284 Жыл бұрын
100% agreed with the dancer. My fav out of all Souls bosses.
@LilBbyBooBop
@LilBbyBooBop Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the time and effort you took to make this video but you're clearly a mechanics guy and im a lore guy. So when you break down the bosses to what they are bare bones its kinda rough. At times, it seems like you bring some lore into the bosses and im like, "hey, maybe he doesnt hate these games." I also think its unfortunate that you weren't able to play these games in order. The demon souls section hurt me lmao that was the first game i played in the series. I just want to say im not bashing the vid. Its your opinion and this is mine, no shade
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
No worries man, different people have different preferences, would be boring otherwise. Gameplay will always be the top priority for me. Lore can add a bit here and there but its like if you go to a restaurant and they have cool paintings on the wall, which is nice and all and it does add something, but 95+% of the experience will still come down to if the food tastes good. I can certainly say that theres a chance that i would have enjoyed Demon's Souls more if it was my first game, but honestly theres also a chance i would have enjoyed it less considering for a new player the half-hp mechanic and a lot of the jank seems extremely frustrating. So hard to say if it would rank higher then.
@josetomascamposrobledano4618
@josetomascamposrobledano4618 Жыл бұрын
Congrats on finishing a project like this. I like the personal commentary although it can come off as “superiority” at times. And obviously like all big ranking videos it shows when knowledge of a certain boss is lacking. What I mean to say is that I appreciate this video. And Elden Beast is one hell of an interesting boss. ER has to be the game that has changed the most with patches. Like broken hitbox Radahn turning into T-Rex hands Radahn. And Elden Beast WAS a contender for worst/most evil boss in the entire for me… until he got patched. At release it was a literal homing missile that I only avoided a few times 0 damage do to sheer luck and weird strats (aside from obvious tactics like preparing a stagger-cancel). Now back in June I believe he got patched. You need to stand in front of him and run to his back once he finished casting. Because the Stars got nerfed, they are forced to go bellow and will now chase you slower than your player character. However if you’re a coward and run away the missile will go full speed towards you… but since it also got nerfed in that regard too you should be able to avoid extra damage once it reaches the ground. So while old Elden Beast was a literal “fair design” destroyer. New Beast is very fun and consistent to no damage. Even when he does 3 proyectiles at the same time. So I’m very happy to see someone giving him some love. Crazy how this series is full of bosses that the community considers very hard. Yet on inspection they are also the most fair. While it is the “mid-bosses” that have super fast attacks which force a “positioning game” when aiming for consistent perfection.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Thank you :) The thing with the 'superiority' is a bit tricky. I totally get what you mean, but if I phrase things so it doesnt come across as that, constantly saying things like (as a very simple example) "in my opinion its good" instead of "its good", not only does that make things take longer, it actually gets super tiring to listen to after a while. Which is why i started prefering just saying once or twice at the start that this whole video is obviously just my opinion, purely subjective and every opinion is valid. Also i feel very strongly that even if the direct wording is a bit off-putting at times, it still evokes more responses than the indirect one, which is debatably a good thing. Also i mean yeah, some bosses i freely admit that ive never fully learned, but i beat each boss at least twice which i felt was enough to form an opinion. With 180+ Bosses theres always gonna be some gaps in my knowledge, its unavoidable and i think that goes for everyone.
@gunnihd6190
@gunnihd6190 Жыл бұрын
Elden Beast at A+ is a HOT take
@raijinoflimgrave8708
@raijinoflimgrave8708 Жыл бұрын
Awesome job, very impressed, your work on the video was excellent and i admire it. Highly disagree with a lot of it though. So much so i cant even begin to start talking about it because ill leave a really long comment. Mainly i think you have sekrio all wrong
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Hey, thats what i wanted, would be boring otherwise, right? You're free to have your, obviously wrong, opinion :p Jokes aside though, yeah, its the part i thought people would disagree with the most. I just didnt love sekiro all that much, simple as that. Though its also the game thats clearly the farthest remove, which makes it the hardest to compare. All in all though, still a very good game, i just enjoyed some of the others more :)
@bigjim7039
@bigjim7039 Жыл бұрын
hidden gem channel
@LionheartBeatz
@LionheartBeatz Жыл бұрын
Keep working on your audio & video quality in general, and you'll get A LOT more subscribers Take care :)
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Thank you, yeah a better mic has already been aquired, just didnt have any time to work on anything due to university, but maybe soon™ :)
@MrFool-cv5hf
@MrFool-cv5hf Жыл бұрын
I don't think I have seen a boss ranking with which I've disagreed more.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
see, this is the kind of comment i expected more of, im surprised theres been as much agreement as there is. So what do you disagree with the most? and why?
@MrFool-cv5hf
@MrFool-cv5hf Жыл бұрын
@@Jeffqed Nothing against you, I just think you underrated Sekiro bosses and overrated DS 1 bosses. If I compare them almost no boss from DS 1 is better then like the most basic ones from Sekiro.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
@@MrFool-cv5hf I guess that just comes down to me not loving sekiro's fighting system as much. While the deflect/attack focused fighting can feel great at times, i just feel it lacks the depth. It ends up being JUST timing. Positioning hardly matters, theres no second dimension to deflecting like there is with the direction you choose when rolling... I see a lot of people prefering the sekiro combat but im just not one of those people^^ Funnily enough i thought i rated DS1 bosses pretty harsh compared to what i see other people rate them at.
@MrFool-cv5hf
@MrFool-cv5hf Жыл бұрын
@@Jeffqed I just think that older bosses don't hold up at all compared to newer ones.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
@@MrFool-cv5hf I mean my 2 top rated bosses from DS1, Sif and Gwyn, arent at the top because of the gameplay but because of other factors, so I don't fully see how that applies with those. None of Sekiro's bosses come close to the emotional impact those 2 bosses had on me. Aside that, as an example i also thought that artorias wouldnt hold up compared to later iterations on the same idea (gael & co.), but i found myself enjoying him a ton still. He might be simpler and slower than later ones, but so is your player character, so i found it worked pretty much just as well. Bosses don't exist in a vacuum and even taking out all enemies, even DS1 and DS3 are quite different, so I dont think we can say "this boss is a faster and flashier version and therefore better" because everything around the boss changed too (I know you haven't said that, this is just more me rambling and a general response than directly responding to you)
@billythenarwhal1579
@billythenarwhal1579 4 ай бұрын
Makes a sin graph joke, with tangent
@dafulegend5905
@dafulegend5905 Жыл бұрын
Sinh is so underrated istg.
@pedronalesso1464
@pedronalesso1464 Жыл бұрын
3:03:37 It's lore! There's no stakes of Marika in the Academy because Renalla was dumped, gentlemen (Radagon) prefers blondes!
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Yeah i realized that too I'm still in the camp that lore should never be an excuse to make the gameplay worse tho. Couldve just placed a site of grace there then tbh..
@bubisolgud1299
@bubisolgud1299 Жыл бұрын
The reason for No stakes of Marika in rennala boss is beacause she hated marika.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Yeah I get that, however I feel gameplay should always come first and that lore is almost never an excuse for a worse experience
@bubisolgud1299
@bubisolgud1299 Жыл бұрын
@@Jeffqed i agree just thought i would point it out.
@OceansFloorSystem
@OceansFloorSystem Жыл бұрын
The mouth It opens AND THEN IT OPENS AGAIN
@fallen2624
@fallen2624 4 ай бұрын
Calling ISSHIN of all bosses easy is certainly a take
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed 4 ай бұрын
Less of a take and more of just the reality of him taking me way less attempts than most other bosses in sekiro despite having 4 phases. If he took me like 30 minutes while a bunch of other bosses took me hours, i feel its fair to say hes easy from my perspective, no?
@FinalMessenger13
@FinalMessenger13 Жыл бұрын
Cleric Beast -> Easy. I died to that shit like 25 times x_x during first playthrough. My gripes with Waterfowl Dance is not that it is hard to handle. I don't like that the margin for error is near zero, but okay, optional superboss is a superboss. My biggest issue is that it actually doesn't give you any hints in how to handle it. It doesn't teach you shit. My only ways dealing with it was trying different stuff till I found something that promised success if I'd be able to get the right timings into muscle memory. Many, many tries and I still was confused because I saw nothing, no hint, no clue on what the game was expecting me to do (better). Of course, phase 1 Waterfoul could mostly be counterd by getting into a small distance. But that doesn't help anymore when you are point blank sometimes in phase 2. Yeah, you can redirect her first volley if going around her feet correctly. I've never done it, only watched some videos of better players doing it. And every time it looks like that works coincidentally, not because the devs intended to. Okay, I have to admit, I only fought this boss two times. And after beating her the first time, she kinda grew on me so that I worship the experience in fighting her (for three days straight). But I really don't like the intent behind Waterfoul Dance and hope that future content or titles strafe away from trial and error movesets once more. So, yes, I was triggered :D. But nontheless: Really great video! I love your humour!
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Thank you :) Theres certainly a discussion to be made about waterfowl. I personally like it (mostly), but it certainly stretches the boundaries of what is acceptable and fair. I think theres a variety of small adjustments you could make to it that would barely change it but bring it way more in line with the general design philosophy, but personally as the ultimate challenge i felt it was fine. Now, if malenia was placed anywhere else in the game, we'd have an issue. Also, considering the redirect, you can actually get surprisingly consistent at it, at least in my experience. Idk if it's fundamentally intended by design, but i wouldnt be surprised if the devs figured that out by testing and were like 'wait thats kinda cool lets keep that' instead of making her tracking stronger, so my guess would be that its semi-intended. Lastly considering that it doesnt teach you how to deal with waterfowl, im gonna be completely honest, i wouldnt want it to. I enjoyed slowly figuring out ways to do it myself without any hints, and it comes down again to the fact that its an extremely hidden away boss thats required for almost nothing whatsoever, perfect place for something that defies rules and you have to figure out yourself.
@FinalMessenger13
@FinalMessenger13 Жыл бұрын
@@Jeffqed In the end, all comes down to tastes and that is totally fine. Waterfowl was/is just the epitome of a new philosophy, FromSoftware included in their new game. That, in my opinion, is like treating each major boss as its own microcosmos. Timings or lessons you learn can hardly be applied to the next major boss (especially delayed attacks where the windups take ages but reaction to the actual attack window is hardly possible). I just went into ER with a mindset of the earlier games' philosophy, where very many instances of the difficult stuff could be mitigated by observing the environment or just by smart and quick reaction timings. What I wanna say: We both are right and wrong. And maybe I am a bad gamer or my reaction times are rusty as I am 41 of now :D. Thank you very much for your awesome and detailled post and of course for all the hard work that went into your video. I will leave a sub for that is the least I can do to honour your work.
@jimmyrustles358
@jimmyrustles358 Жыл бұрын
Finally, someone who recognizes Sister Friede is the best boss in DS3
@abortedlord
@abortedlord Жыл бұрын
Honestly my only gripe with Malenia is that the heal is too big. I'm fine with how it works.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Im not sure its necessarily too big at that stage of the game, maybe a little, but its kinda stupid that it still heals even if you block 100% of the damage, thats just kinda weird and nonsensical.
@timothykoontz2381
@timothykoontz2381 Жыл бұрын
No chalice bosses for Bloodborne?
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
I considered it, but left it as one of those "if the rest of the video is done and I feel like doing more" and then when I finished everything else it was 4 hours long and I was a bit burned out on editing so it fell by the wayside. Ill say that discounting the ones that feel like a joke (a fucking boar) and the terrible constant one hit balancing in some of them, I don't think the chalice bosses are as bad as people make them out to be, some are pretty neat (the bosses, not the dungeons themselves).
@BackdoorSurprise
@BackdoorSurprise Жыл бұрын
People tend to attribute high difficulty to bad game design
@shawnmarcum8078
@shawnmarcum8078 Жыл бұрын
Every single good boss is a dual, no gimmick bosses. Because it's reactions, not actually having to put some thought into them. I appreciate both, but when every boss has a second phase and is based around rolling, it can become boring. Elden Ring gets it done in it's boss roster, but I disagree with most people in Dark Souls 1 and 2 as well as Demon's Souls. For example, Phalanx is easy af, but if you don't use a fire spell, fire bombs, a fire buffed sword, or even fire arrows he can be quite tricky. That is good design, especialky if it's optional. But that one isn't. Everyone thinks that there has to be some "core" to Souls games, and that is rolling. Do you see what happens when everyone play the game the same way with rolling? It can get boring. An example of a good boss who is not exclusive to all builds and has the gimmick nature of previous Souls bosses is Malenia with Waterfowl, you can use a frost/bleed weapon and hit her out, there's like 12 other ways, but I have ranted for too long. But I am tired of the majority of bosses revolve around one specific playstyle based around reaction timing and no thought put into stuff like the arena or specific weaknesses of the bosses that you have to think about. Vicar Amelia another good example because of the healing mechanic.The bosses people also praise are based on lore and the soundtrack as well. But if the gimmick was part of the lore, it's all the better. It's so frustrating because it keeps you guessing, even if something is bad. It's creative and the player must think about what they want to do. So now we have bullcrap delays and lack of openings in much of Elden Ring's bosses because people want every boss to be specifically designed around rolling.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
which boss do you mean when you say "that one"? I disagree that phalanx can be quite tricky without firebombs, he's an absolute joke even without firebombs, just becomes a quick one with them. The boss is a bunch of normal enemies in a room with a bigger variant that barely does anything. He's not an enjoyable fight, as either hes super quick (firebombs) or long but easy (without firebombs), meaning tedious, and tedious bosses are some of my least favorite. I beat him first try in my first playthrough when i didn't even know what i was doing, i eventually tried using firebombs but only after getting rid of the majority of blobs by hand and being really tired of the busy work that is and looking for other options. Whenever a Boss has a specific weakness that directly counters it and makes the fight 10% as hard, i (most of the time) hate it. If i use it to win, it feels cheap. If I don't, it doesn't feel as satisfying because there was an easier way. There are exceptions to this where its done and integrated well and doesn't affect the fight too much. An example of this is margit, where the shackle isn't anywhere near the boss fight. You have to go way out of your way to find it and its effect is limited, only working twice and only the first phase. I still didn't use it because i enjoy the fight and wanna beat him without it. Agreed on Malenia. You haven't touched on parrying, which is something that has progressively become more and more integrated (for ex. in DS1 only gwyn could be parried, in DS3 its like half the bosses, in ER they made it widespread but toned down its strength). Shields (even without parrying) are almost always usefull, though they were WAY OVERPOWERED in DS1 so im glad they turned it down. And obviously theres magic which makes almost any boss 1/3 as hard. So theres definitely way more than just 1 playstyle for most bosses in any game. Heck, you mentioned DS1, i didnt really know how rolling properly worked after beating DS1, and i beat it fairly easily. Vicar Amelia has a healing mechanic? :D she goes down waaaaaay too quick for me to notice that. Elden Ring gives you more options than ever, with an absurdly wide variety of weapons which makes focusing on blocking, parrying, dodging or ranged all very viable and usefull in most bossfights. Add to that your horse on which you CANT roll (making rolling even less of a focus) and spirit summons and you have a very wide variety of playstyles. In fact one of the complaints from hardcore fans ive seen with ER is that builds that dont just rely on dodge-and-melee are too good. So i don't quite see what you're saying. Also as it seems, rolling just is the most fun playstyle for the majority of the dedicated playerbase, so theyre obviously gonna cater to that a bit more than the rest (i would also argue its the most versatile and interesting but thats a different discussion) And tbh. i think focusing rolling is a very fun, varied and quick-paced way of playing which gets boring very slowly, and if most things around it are done well, it doesn't get boring at all. In the end it becomes somewhat of a rhythm game, however with a second and third layer of depth in terms of the direction of rolling and positioning attached. So following this, heres an interesting related question, do you like rhythm games? I agree that gimmicks when integrated well with the lore can be good. CAN. Gameplay goes first and foremost and if the gimmick brings that down, im never gonna view it in a positive light. There is a point to be made that theres an over-reliance on multiple phases these days, so thats a discussion im definitely willing to have, but tbh as long as the quality of the phases is up there and they make sense ramping up gameplay wise, i wont complain about that.
@shawnmarcum8078
@shawnmarcum8078 Жыл бұрын
@@Jeffqed Well he's also the first boss of the game.
@shawnmarcum8078
@shawnmarcum8078 Жыл бұрын
@@Jeffqed My point was there is too much of an emphasis on rolling in a boss design or use a specific strategy for a boss fight. Burnt Ivory King is perfect for this as you can alter how much you want the difficulty to be. It's ridiculous how I see people complain about ganks when you can legit have an army be fighting for you. Fume Knight was also interesting with the healing and the second phase actually had a shock factor to it. As those fireballs allowed you to move your feet rather than rolling. Some of the "cheap" tactics that people complain about is intended. Ceaseless Discharge is rated low because of low attacks and high damage, but if you flee back toward the pillar and he gets his hand stuck, he dies in one shot. That's not cheap, that is funny, intended, and adds to your characters personal journey through being clever than by having some exclusive core mechanic. Sometimes I like rhythm games, but Souls isn't a rhythm game, it's a role-playing game. Every action you decide to take is personal.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
@@shawnmarcum8078 Second one if you count Vanguard, but yes. Thats why hes not a complete failure. But if we look at him as a first boss, heres what i think a first boss should do: 1) Set up something for the future. The first one is the most memorable, so its the perfect opportunity to set up something. That doesn't mean a repeat, it can be as simple as a type of boss (ex.: Cleric Beast. First Beast-Type boss, lots of them in the rest of the game) 2) Teach you basic game mechanics. Phalanx kinda does that because it very obviously shows you that bosses have weaknesses that can be exploited. However thats it. Compared to other first bosses, thats a very small amount of teaching. It doesn't even really teach you how to deal with hordes of enemies, as they never really did that past Phalanx. Its a one-time thing thats unrepeated. 3) Draw you into the game, show you what the game has to offer or show its potential. Phalanx doesn't do that at all for me. He's a tedious fight that when its over im glad its over. Thats not gonna convince me that i should continue playing the game. Quite the opposite. 4) Be kind of a Standard-setter. When i played DS1, initially i compared a lot of things to the asylum demon. That guy was basic and as hes the first my experience with him stuck in my mind. So any other boss i instictively compared and contrasted to him. Then when something was completely different and hard to compare like Moonlight Butterfly was a cool experience (although that boss ended up sucking ass anyways). Having something like Phalanx makes it hard to contrast anything else to it, and so your first experience is the one that feels out of place. That's something thats way better saved for a later boss as a way to switch it up.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
@@shawnmarcum8078 Oh you can have an army fight for you with the burnt ivory king? Would love to see that! When i played him, my 4 knights just stood there attacking nothing while i got ganked by 4 enemies. Do they eventually attack? In theory the Burnt Ivory King is awesome. Some weird technical mistakes and shitty AI make the fight unenjoyable for me. You can just remove the healing with the fume knight and beating him with it is extremely difficult as his healing is pretty quick, so it feels kind of mandatory and adds very little. Like i said in the Video, i actually like the gimmick insta-death that ceaseless discharge has. My problem with him was that even though his moveset has like 4 attacks, he sometimes only uses 1 on repeat. Again, shitty AI is the issue, not the theory behind him. Im not saying souls is a rhythm game but at times it feels like one when you play it rolling focused. I love that. You don't have to do that. Like i said, i beat DS1 barely using rolling. And ER offers more viable options than ever. So I disagree. The only game where i can see that theres maybe too heavy of an emphasis on rolling is DS3. DS3 is clearly a game made for that, and if you don't like playing like that, its understandable not to like that game. On the rest of the games i disagree.
@crow1460
@crow1460 Жыл бұрын
In terms of average boss quality, imo: 1| Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice Best boss: Isshin, the Sword Saint Worst boss: Guardian Ape Duo 2| Dark Souls 3 Best boss: Slave Knight Gael Worst boss: Ancient Wyvern 3| Elden Ring Best boss: Mohg, Lord of Blood Worst boss: Godskin Duo 4| Bloodborne Best boss: Ludwig, the Accursed/Holy Blade Worst boss: Rom, the Vacuous Spider 5| Dark Souls Best boss: Dragonslayer Ornstein & Executioner Smough Worst boss: Bed of Chaos 6| Demon's Souls Best boss: Old King Allant Worst boss: Dragon God 7| Dark Souls 2 Best boss: Fume Knight Worst boss: Ancient Dragon
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
I'm curious: most of these I get, I know that I rate sekiro bosses lower than most other people, so having it high here isn't surprising. However why do you rate old king allant so high? He just doesn't feel that special to me and his animations feel janky. Flamelurker feels miles ahead of him. I'm just curious as to why some people feel this way.
@crow1460
@crow1460 Жыл бұрын
@@Jeffqed I like Old King Allant so much because it was a revolutionary type of design, not only for Demon's Souls but for Souls games in general. I always see the evolution of humanoid bosses in the Souls games like this: Old King Allant -> Artorias -> Most of the Hunter fights in Bloodborne and onward. And Demon's Souls doesn't have so many memorable bosses in the first place, so a boss like Old King Allant really stands out for me. I was never the biggest fan of Flamelurker, i mean it's a good boss but in the original game it was difficult to tell what he was doing due to how messy his design was, and from my experience, the fight started getting a little repetitive because he spammed 2-3 attacks, so when i realized the pattern it became a cakewalk (At least, for me.) Outside of Old King Allant, i also like the Tower Knight a lot because of the arena and strategies involved in the fight. Flamelurker is probably my number 3 for DeS. A good boss, but not my favourite.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
@@crow1460 That's interesting, to me Artorias felt a lot more similar to flamelurker than to old king allant. Old king allant relies on one quick combo, a dash and a ranged "wind throw". I dont quite see the similarities to Artorias. Meanwhile flamelurker is similar in the sense that theyre both very suffocating and you can make similarities for example between his explosion combos and artorias signature overhead slam. The only similarities between artorias and allant that i see is the AoEs (but even there one is just an AoE and the other is a power-up, also thats a very basic similarity) and that they both use a sword. One is a quick enemy where you can easily just power through and be the aggressor, but good luck being that with artorias. I just dont quite see how hes revolutionary. Also i feel Demon's Souls' healing system really hurt old king allant because by that point you'll have 10000 moon grass to just power through that fight, making him one of the easiest bosses in the entire game. But at Flamelurker you might be in deep shit if you don't learn quickly, so its actually a challenge. Sure you don't have to do the bosses in this order but i feel like most people will, and the game kind of pushes you in that direction. I do agree that at the end of flamelurker its hard to tell what hes doing, that was one of my negatives.
@crow1460
@crow1460 Жыл бұрын
@@Jeffqed When i say evolution, i don't mean that Allant and Artorias are similar. They're pretty different, but Old King Allant is, in my opinion, the most fleshed out humanoid boss in Demon's Souls, sure you have stuff like the Penetrator or the Old Hero but I don't think they have the same amount of depth as Allant. While Artorias is THE humanoid boss in Dark Souls, so it's easy to make a connection between the two. I do think that Artorias is the boss that definitely brought FromSoft in the direction of future boss design in games like Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3 and Elden Ring, but before him, you have Old King Allant. I think that, as limited as Demon's Souls boss design was, OKA needs more appreciation for what he did for the series.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
@@crow1460 Alright, i see where you're coming from, although i don't agree, but thats fine, just wanted to understand how you came to that conclusion :) I don't really think OKA's Design is reflected in any future bosses, I think bosses like Penetrator, Maneaters, Vanguard, etc. have much more direct evolutions. But I can say that OKA has the most varied moveset and bosses in future games also have varied movesets so I guess that is what you mean. The crux of my issue is that i just don't think OKA plays well, but i get where you're coming from.
@DevilzWatchmen
@DevilzWatchmen Жыл бұрын
S+ gargs? thats some good shit you are smoking
@3mangaming185
@3mangaming185 Жыл бұрын
with full respect this has to be one of the worst lists I have ever seen in my life I disagree with most of it but it is still ur opinion and I respect that.
@collinhalverson4681
@collinhalverson4681 Жыл бұрын
I know this is your list and I respect that, but how could you actually not know who Nashandra is when you literally had to speak with her at Drangleic Castle and she was mentioned throughout the narrative? I'm not even trying to defend her fight, but since you mentioned you felt DS2's story didn't compare to DS1's for you, it makes the viewer wonder if you really paid any attention at all when Nashandra is literally presented as the main villain, especially throughout the entire second half of the game. Just a critique. It felt questionable when it became a source of criticism for you toward her endgame fight.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Maybe im remembering this wrong, but throughout the game i dont remember a time she was referred to as "nashandra" that i came across before the boss fight. It was always "Queen" or "Vendrick's Queen" afaik. I was well aware the Queen was of significance but piecing together that that was Nashandra i didnt manage before beating her on my first playthrough. There are some neat references and hints towards this, such as her paintings giving off curse, but all this makes her feel more integrated as an optional side boss than the final boss, which was my point. Feel free to prove me wrong though, maybe i completely missed something obvious, but unless its REALLY obvious i dont think im gonna change my opinion. Im usually fairly thorough in these games so if I didnt piece it together, i feel like most people wont, but again, could be wrong here (i definitely did see some other people be "who?" when seeing the boss tho) DS2 is the game i was the least thorough, as a lot of the item descriptions felt empty and non-consequential, especially compared to DS1 or DS3, so i read less than in those games, but I feel that just underlines that issue more. [Edit before sending] After writing this i just looked through some stuff and found it mentioned when she has that short talk with you and introduces herself as Nashandra. Admittedly i forgot about that. Vendrick doesnt mention her name, The emerald herald apparently mentions her name at the Throne of Want, but i dont remember meeting her there at all, either i completely missed her or she is hidden? idk, ill look into that. Anyway, point taken, definitely weakens that argument, although i do think its still too weak of a setup for a final boss. I honestly think that whole thing could be mostly solved if the name above her healthbar would be "Nashandra, Queen of Drangleic" instead of simply "Nashandra"^^ This doesn't save the boss for me by any means, but yeah, you absolutely have a point there, my bad. EDIT: the emerald herald stands just behind the door. Yeah, I'm blind. Like i said, i still think its a very weak setup, but i do concede that its not nothing.
@Sirnitro12
@Sirnitro12 Жыл бұрын
Under 1k subs how the hell is this allowed after a video like this
@alies-
@alies- Жыл бұрын
ceasless discheese higher than mytha 😂
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
STDs win again, what else is new
@benjaminaschlimanjr4939
@benjaminaschlimanjr4939 Жыл бұрын
bro loves pain
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Dont act like you dont, you clicked on a 4 hour video about souls bosses. We're in this together.
@BarrieBen
@BarrieBen Жыл бұрын
add music like mejula or somthing but good video with opinions i disagree overall
@knockknockneo4816
@knockknockneo4816 Жыл бұрын
can't believe you didn't talk about the hardest boss in sekiro🤷🏼‍♂️
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Truly, Mist Noble was a battle for the ages. It was a bold decision to throw such a bulldozer at people, but somehow I managed it after 4 days of nonstop attempts without sleep. Easy SSS+.
@palebloodgamer3456
@palebloodgamer3456 Жыл бұрын
Comments for the algorithm god to get jeff yo trending like he deserves.
@palebloodgamer3456
@palebloodgamer3456 Жыл бұрын
Comments for the algorithm god to get jeff yo trending like he deserves.
@schpleeb
@schpleeb Жыл бұрын
2:11:50 Opeth! ❤
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Best band :)
@schpleeb
@schpleeb Жыл бұрын
@@Jeffqed Still Life, Blackwater Park and Ghost Reveries are probably in my top ten albums of all time
@dogecaster
@dogecaster Жыл бұрын
The only good part about the Godskin duo is the ost
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Yeah I can get behind that. Anyone can disagree with me on any point in this video, that's fine. But if someone likes godskin duo as a fight I refuse to acknowledge their existence.
@dogecaster
@dogecaster Жыл бұрын
@@Jeffqed the Godskin duo is the worst fight in the game it just feels lazy and something better could have been done it’s the only main boss in the game I dislike.
@Lodestone8
@Lodestone8 Жыл бұрын
Now rank all Hollow Knight bosses.
@Cuzkas1
@Cuzkas1 Жыл бұрын
bro rated the ghost version or RKL d-
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
In which direction do you feel different? And why? I've seen her rated lower and higher elsewhere, i thought that was a very mid opinion tbh, surprising to me that thats the one rating that stands out to you.
@deacubogdan2263
@deacubogdan2263 Жыл бұрын
Can't take this guy seriously when he unironically claims souls games are easier played on freakin mouse and keyboard. Also, of course you can't appreciate a boss if you are overleveled. For example Vicar Amelia is very difficult if you are within the level range for that particular fight. They way you melt its health bar is just an indication that you were simply overleveled for that fight.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
The footage from vicar Amelia is not from me, as indicated by the text in the corner. First time I very well might have been slightly overleveled, but when I fought her for the second time I was RL10 afaik. I don't think that counts as overleveled, still beat her very easily. In addition on my playthroughs for this video I specifically limited my leveling severely or put other restrictions on things to make them harder (CoC in DS2). The only game I didn't really do that for is DS1, but I did a bunch of playthroughs of that game in the past. When I finished Bloodbornes dlc the first time with lvl ~80 I got told by people who played the game that I was underleveled. In my second playthrough I finished it with lvl ~60 and apparently that's still not enough? I did a lvl1 playthrough of elden ring, is that overleveled? These games are easier with mouse and keyboard for me. Look, most people I see play with controller rely to 99% on the lock on, because especially with fast bosses you can't turn your camera fast enough. But the lock on isn't perfect and can fuck you a lot. With mouse, I can turn as fast as I want, enabling me to play without lock on if the situation calls for it. The trade-off is that I don't have as precise control of the direction of my rolls, as there's only the 8 directions available through wasd. It's preference. I've tried controller, trust me. I've played through demons souls and Bloodborne with one and tried it on both DS1 and DS3. It also comes down to me rarely playing 3D games with controller before. I don't have the muscle memory, while I certainly have it with m+kb. If my preference disqualifies my opinion for you, there's not much I can do about it.
@SuperWiseman90
@SuperWiseman90 Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t disagree more with many of these picks.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more with most of these picks.
@TheloniousDrake7
@TheloniousDrake7 Жыл бұрын
Great video and yes dancers extremely underrated. Best boss in the base game of dark souls 3 easily.
@namelessbeethoven3264
@namelessbeethoven3264 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see Gwen Lord of Cinder get the respect he rightly deserves! Gwen is the best ending to a Fromsoft game IMO thanks to the overall experience of DS1 and the message that he represents. The eventual decay of the dying world. That is more impactful than any epic ending boss fight.
@tengr0057
@tengr0057 Жыл бұрын
Gwyn* +2
@the_bee_is_me
@the_bee_is_me Жыл бұрын
You'd describe Sword Saint as one of the easiest bosses in the late game???
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I would. Isshin Ashina, Demon of Hatred, Owl (father) are all clearly harder than him for me. I would say he's about on par with true monk, while divine dragon is easier, and that's all the bosses post-shinobi-owl. Genichiro is a joke at that stage of the game and isshins 3rd phase is made trivial by lightnin reversal, while his first phase is an easier version of isshin ashinas first phase. That only leaves his second phase, that one I struggled a bit with but it's quite similar to some minibosses you've fought before, which obviously lore wise makes sense, but lowers the difficulty quite a bit if you haven't skipped those.
@the_bee_is_me
@the_bee_is_me Жыл бұрын
@Jeff Good points, fair enough. I guess that goes to show that everyone has different experiences with these games. For me, I struggled against Sword Saint for days, but beat Isshin (Ashina) first try on my Shura run.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
@@the_bee_is_me Yup. Isshin Ashina was by far the hardest boss for me, if i had to guess he took me twice as long as any other boss^^ some of his delays are insane and it took me way too long to figure out how to deal with his grab, as well as Emma's.
@AgentYellowWang
@AgentYellowWang Жыл бұрын
For me variant gargoyles is pretty well duo boss design. Both of them actually being a threat and their gank is pretty well though out, everytime the second gargoyle gank you he make lot of sound and make the ground crumbling like an earthquake, for me the second gargoyle attack is pretty much the first gargoyle combo like a fighting game where you change turn between character and the second gargoyle only gank when the first gargoyle does a certain attack that also have indication of second gargoyle will be ganking you by the fact that the second gargoyle will make lot of sound like spinning his weapon or changing his weapon. The poison also being a real threat this time, last time demon prince poison attack i don't even know what it does bc i can't be hit by it unless i try to.
@mic01851165
@mic01851165 Жыл бұрын
Ah btw you do know Elden Ring actually has... 165 boss encounters right? The list should be quite a bit bigger than this. If people going to include the trash mob squad boss fight in other series, they need to do the same with Elden Ring too. I'm a bit tired people exclude all the bad boss encounter in Elden Ring so often and includes every optional bad encounters in other series to compete in the ranking. It just seems unfair to me.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
165 is just way too many for such a video, also a lot of them are more like minibosses so I feel if I include them I should also include the minibosses from the other games and then we have a 12 hour video on our hands. Elden ring doesn't make it clear which are the "main" bosses, so as I explain at the beginning of the elden ring section (see 2:52:28 ) I picked criteria that matched up well with what I consider to be the main bosses of the game and then handpicked a couple extra. Elden ring does have some fodder bosses, sure, but it's also structurally a very different game to the other ones, so just saying "this game has a lot of throwaway bosses" while disregarding the completely different world flow and it being 3x the size is also unfair towards elden ring. A trash boss like lud and zallen from DS2 who you pay extra for the dlc for, has its own area which makes up 1/3 of the dlc which cost more than 15€ I think at launch, is a reskin of a boss from the same dlc that I fought an hour before should be treated differently to seeing the third variation of the erdtree burial watchdog in a hidden cave that takes 5 minutes to complete, makes up 0.1% of the game and the last two times I saw this boss was 15 and 30 hours before. In such a huge game I do not mind repeats, sometimes I was actually happy to see them, though that doesn't obviously apply to every single one (why the fuck does godefroy exist). Fuck ups in a linear game are always going to be a lot more egregious than the same ones in a huge free open world. That doesn't mean elden ring doesn't fuck up, every time I fight godskin duo I want to put them even lower in my list lol
@clunkye8053
@clunkye8053 Жыл бұрын
How are you "normal" when most people play on controller?
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Did i say i was "normal" anywhere? I always acknowledged that playing with m+kb puts me into the minority
@clunkye8053
@clunkye8053 Жыл бұрын
@@Jeffqed 1:44:01
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
​@@clunkye8053 for context, this was me saying it on stream, not in post (which i thought was made clear by the different mic mixing) it was meant as a joke as its basically not possible to play bloodborne with kb+m, so "why cant i play this thing [Bloodborne] with mouse and keyboard like a normal person" when nobody does do that i thought was obvious enough that it was a joke
@clunkye8053
@clunkye8053 Жыл бұрын
The joke didn't land. And yes i knew it was on stream.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
@@clunkye8053 oh no! anyways...
@KokkoroKai
@KokkoroKai Жыл бұрын
Honestly this list seems entirely random to me. It’s a long video so maybe you said screw it and just threw em in but if I feel like your goofing with us here lol
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
Which list? What elden ring bosses I included? I explained my reasoning there, I did throw a couple in there because I wanted to talk about them and I felt like they were significant (tree sentinel cuz it's the first enemy people encounter, draconic tree sentinel cuz it's a variation of it, Gideon ofnir cuz he's part of the final stretch, full-grown falling star beast cuz it's in a major location that even stands out on the map, dragonkin soldier cuz he's the only boss of an entire underground area that can take you an hour to traverse and they specifically gave that one a different name so he stood out) but that's only 5 of them, the rest are by achievements.
@Ploutvonozec
@Ploutvonozec Жыл бұрын
Haha. Finally someone, who uses German pronunciacion of Ornstein. Not the usual orns-teen.
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
How are you actually supposed to pronounce it? I'm genuinely not sure :D
@Ploutvonozec
@Ploutvonozec Жыл бұрын
@@Jeffqed I am not either. No one is. But I am Czech and I know how to read German. Ornstein has some Stein in it. Einstein also had one. :D
@diclefahrlaender7996
@diclefahrlaender7996 Жыл бұрын
Blöb
@fishnutz5196
@fishnutz5196 Жыл бұрын
Its kinda staggered how many horrible bosses are in Fromsoft games hahaha
@Jeffqed
@Jeffqed Жыл бұрын
They do have a bunch of impressive fuck-ups, but imo thats partially because they actually try things. Too many games have just bland, boring bosses all the way through that you won't remember. I might hate some of from softs bosses more than those, but overall i much prefer the fromsoft resumee compared to a lot of other games. I take 1 good and 1 bad boss over 2 bland bosses any day personally, at least ill remember the good AND bad ones :)
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