That's awesome!!

How wonderful ❤! Great job Mom!!!!!❤

Inspiring!

I'm glad I read this because I'm making this choice to unschooling my son. My daughter is 26 and she went to public school it did nothing for her except get bullied and the principal kicked her out of one school because that was easier than dealing with the girls that eer being mean. My daughter graduated despite greensburg indiana high school.

Would you mind sharing what you did or didn’t do? Please and thank you.

The Finnish model is probably the best education system in the world for exactly this reason. The will pick on overarching module to study, the apply the different subjects in the study of that module - so if they were looking at a country for example, they could research the history of it, the geographical make up, make food - use maths to calculate the ingredients. Study the architecture - build a model house, design and make traditional clothes etc. It does exactly what you say - teaches them how to put that knowledge into a practical use.

i have actually seen parents ensure their children dont learn a thing, but ironically their children did go to school

Cool story. How many became well paid professionnal ? How many are having leadership position within there compagny. Yeah, that's what I though so.

@@samuelcorriveau3216 There is lot's of unschooler's go on to big paying jobs, you can find info about unschooler's going on to all kinds of things. If there wasn't, it'd mean absolutely nothing anyway because there is more to life than accumulating money and stress inducing high paid positions in corporations, things like freedom, safety, mental health, relationships and moral character are frequently ruined in schools. They have higher levels of those and those are absolutely priceless, more valuable than a high position in some company, which they can still get anyway.

It's a system embedded with power.

agreed

I know i didnt lol

When were legally held hostage by court mandates and threatened with humiliation and social rejection for not regurgitating the proper textbook paragraph on cue or for not wearing the latest brand of jeans or shoes, then yeah, it is kind of hard to focus on gaining knowledge or skills to benefit our future.

Right! Another myth is how long it takes to learn something.

Don't worry...be happy....my son quit school because of. Bullying at age 15.... He is more intelligent than most adults I know....he is now 43.....he works hard, is his own boss , taught himself. Carpentry so he could remodel his whole house... Rebuilds fancy cars...work and pilots his own speed boats... Has a tow truck he rebuilt and uses for all kinds of projects... Created a huge pond which now has all kind of wild habitat , on & on & on....children's brains are amazing when you give them them freedom to experiment and support thier strengths.... And interests....😊🌄

Do you have any recommendations for trying to shift this approach? We just started this year, but I have the feeling of certain things that we need to accomplish. Or if she shows an interest in chemistry, for example, then I should start teaching her chemistry. Any advice welcome, it sounds like you were a very successful homeschool Mom!

Just to make a point, did any of you have a higher degree education ? If so, it make sense that you can teach your kids. The thing is, most parent dont have an higher education. Most parent shouldnt be allowed to teach there kids because they do a poor job at it ( I can confirm, my sister in law homeschool her kid while she work fulltime . One of her kid is 7 year old and still cant read a word. They do 15 min of learning per day. She always have excuse on why her son cant read simple word like mom or dad )

We do very well because it's very easy for intelligent people, the bar is kept low on purpose. As for the rest, it's a nightmare and frankly I don't have any friends at 35 and I see now not only it's not a fault, bit of it were it would not have been mine. Meglio soli che male accompagnati as we say in Italy: better alone than in bad company. Only problem is stupid bullies get the jobs and make a mess, and NTs are ok eith it. Why? Cause that s the only thing they know, dramatic idiotic social relations which only in the best of cases are shallow. In the worst and very statistically real cases, the relationships are not shallow at all, but resemble the dynamics of abusive partnerships. It's absolutely crazy.

I’m 24 and have speculated that I may be autistic. If so, I feel much like your daughter in the sense that I am incredible at masking. I have been diagnosed with ADHD since 5th grade though. My teacher noticed, among many other qualities, that I was no longer able to keep decent grades. I made all A’s when school was simple, then started failing once school became more of authoritarian nature. I can say that I 100% would have thrived in a “no school” schooling setting. Aside from middle school and high school. I’ve never been stressed in my life, but I was beyond stressed from all the pressure to make good grades. I was depressed, I didn’t understand how everyone else got by so easily, I hated the schedule, having to just “do what you’re told”, listen and take notes while trying to absorb meaningless information. I couldn’t bare to do my homework but I would sit on my phone for six straight hours just researching real life stuff that I was interested in. In the end, I got through school making C’s and D’s mostly, but most people I talk to, especially older people, comment on how “wise beyond my years” I am. I’d say I found my own way of doing no school schooling, while in public school. Haha. It just sucks that because my mom didn’t think “what’s best for my kid” and was too worried about making me do what seemed best to everyone else so her child didn’t look like a failure, that I had to go through the depression, stress and pressure that experience gave me. That being said, I know that some kids don’t get access to education, and I’m grateful for that but our school system in general is incredibly outdated and is meant to make children into good factory workers, so I am not grateful for that whatsoever. And to end on a positive note, I would not be who I am without living the exact life that I have lived so far, and I have learned many things throughout that I’m thankful for. 😌✌🏽💜

I apologize that was quite a lot, I think I need to start a blog because I always have a lot to say😂

ps. he has learned some Russian and Hebrew in language and arts. studies at home. has learn to follow a Gorden Ramsey recipe for math and chemistry.

I unschooled my kids and at the age of 16 my oldest was diagnosed as on the spectrum. They said that unschooling was the best thing we could do for him. Our circumstances changed and he was sent to high school at age 17. He got two performance merits and did great! Today he is 19, has a chef’s apprenticeship, living on his own with his pregnant fiancé.

@@anneliediederiks that's amazing to hear. My son also wants to be a chef but not really, he wants to be a manager at domino's (lol) I totally back him on it. Not a bad job. Pizza being his staple food from the favorite place he will eat pizza from. We grade the pizza after it's delivered and he has made homemade pizza as he has gotten good at it. They are really good kids. I am happy for your son and soon to be grandbaby. Congratulations😁

My cousins from Eastern Europe also had little motivation to learn english until they started playing video games. I know many people from non-english speaking countries who learned english from time spent on the internet.

My youngest kid learned how to read playing Minecraft. He was highly motivated to figure out what other people were saying in the chat.

What a foolish boy.

I like this. We used a lot of Montessori ideas when our kiddo was young and the transition to unschooling was nearly seamless. I think many of the principles are a good foundation for self-directed learning.

Even theoretical contexts gave my students the ability to learn with enthusiasm. They don’t need school outings and classroom props because they are rational beings. They can apply suggested context.😅

My daughter was 11 on her first day of school. She fit in easily and is performing way above expectation.

I'm an unschooled and I wonder if it could connect him to other interests? For example how I learn to draw partly because I want to be able to make fanart of games and such, and I start making my own characters to draw, some of which are from the 18th and 19th centuries, giving me a fascination in history.

Definitely submit to your school board a curriculum a homeschool curriculum like The Good and Beautiful it has alot of ranges for their science units and language arts

We are six people on a public school teachers salary in a very expensive part of the country. I think unschooling is cheaper than traditional homeschooling: no $$$ curriculum to purchase. We qualified for food stamps (but never had them) the first ten years we unschooled. We couldn’t do it if it were $$$. World-schooling is v expensive and for the privileged who can travel for extensive periods. Unschooling does not have to be. The library is free. Park days are free. KZfaq is free. Hiking is free. Get craft supplies from the thrift store. Get legos on Craigslist used. Things we did splurge on: in the early years, an annual membership to the science museum. The last few years, used/scrounged laptops and minecraft and other online collab games.

My children are in their mid to late thirties. They have several friends in the same age range who were homeschooled. My daughter in particular has commented that these adults are easily identifiable as having been homeschooled. They lack many social cues and come across as awkward with a childlike naïveté. A couple of these adults are women, late twenties, still living in their parents homes. I don’t believe many homeschooling parents are looking far enough into the future to see the effects of keeping their children secluded at home. I cannot imagine depriving my child of the school experience. Yes, you have to actively monitor what your child is learning and being exposed to, and sometimes it’s really hard to straighten them out and correct something you don’t approve of. But the answer is not to wrap them in a bubble. It’s no preparation for life.

@@beaedens285 That's insane. When in life are you segregated by age all day and forced to live by a rigid yet immature social code? If you think that public school properly socializes children then you are the problem. My home-schooled kids started many successful businesses before they were even adults. My son started a years long game he created that all the public school kids flocked to. My daughter was friends with one of your success stories who got pregnant at 13. She started university and immediately landed a job with a fiber optics company where all the other new employees had degrees and were over the moon that they got the job. She is very social and often the proverbial belle of the ball. So what you and I have proved is that some parents fail their children regardless of whether they take an active part in that and home school or are more passive and send their kids off to the groomers. So we've figured out two ways to get it wrong and still I'm the only one here with a way to get it right (judging how your kids see others I would guess you got it very wrong). My kids don't take any prescription or other drugs. They are all extremely entrepreneurial. Each in turn took the reigns of their own education and never put them down. They don't need to be taught. They know how to learn!

Our state also technically requires testing in fifth eighth and 11th grade. But the tests are quite easy and you don’t have to submit the scores to your school district unless they are requested. I’m not saying I suggest this, but a lot of folks don’t even bother having the kids take the tests.

@@ParkrosePermaculture Oh that’s awesome! I’ll look and see if it’s required. I just assumed you had to turn it in!

There were periods where my kids just read manga or watched KZfaq history documentaries or played minecraft most of the day. All of those are valid activities to engage in, and I try to encourage them to have good balance and reach out for other activities. I think it’s parents… Especially parents who have been raised in the public school system, it can be difficult for us to understand how an activity that a child is doing is necessary and meaningful for them if it doesn’t fit in to the normal paradigm of school subjects or physical exercise. My youngest child learn to read playing Minecraft. He also learned multiplication, exponents, and all kinds of other geometry and arithmetic concepts at ages 4 to 5 simply by playing Minecraft, reading graphic novels, gave my two children with dyslexia the ability to access Books, and increase their confidence to branch out to books with more words. I don’t know if that answers your question, but I would encourage you to let your kid read graphic novels if that’s what she needs to do right now. There is something there for her that is meaningful, and she is learning through it.

My third kid has dyspraxia as well as dyslexia and dysgraphia. He had OT weekly for years for “fine motor impairment” but it didn’t really help. He’s found lots of workarounds that wouldn’t have been available to him in public school. He loved to code and draw and listen to podcasts. My second kid has dyslexia and didn’t read her first novel until age 12, when she decided she really wanted to power through a book that wasn’t available on audiobook. She’s read many since then, but at her own pace. She prefers audiobooks. Learned helplessness isn’t so much an issue with unschoolers bc they’re supported and asked, “you want to tackle A, but you need a different route than most folks. How can we help you get there?” It encourages them to find their own path that industrial school Models don’t encourage or support.

@@ParkrosePermaculture thank you so much for your reply, I found it very reassuring and so helpful. My two also have dyspraxia plus other issues. Unbelievably one has turned out to be a teacher, a teacher who, despite being new to the profession is an expert in spotting undiagnosed learning challenges masked by behaviour issues. I have subscribed to your channel.

They can if they want. My eldest did (she’s the only one old enough).

In Texas all you need is a homeschool diploma to get into college. You can take the GED if you want but it isn’t necessary. I know this because my husband was homeschooled and all he had was a printed diploma his parents gave him. He went to college and has a Bachelor’s degree and is also a public school teacher like this dear lady’s husband. We choose to homeschool our 5 children. Our oldest is now a senior and taking dual credit college classes and doing well in them.

That's weird, I would have thought you were more open to these things

What state are you in? I'm in Australia and am part of a wonderful homeschooling community that is increasing rapidly. I wouldn't say people have been against it. I realize I might be lucky due to difference in location and background perhaps. Hope you find some more supportive people x

@@thelunchlady1182 nsw south coast. there are a few here i know of, but in my circle people very quick to automatically respond 'they will be weird' 'no social skills' etc etc and not be supportive but rather try to convince me otherwise 😞

@@sanctuaryplace Im very sorry to hear that. My kids have lots of friends and opportunities to be social and that social is if good quality rather than just a lunch break forced together so I would argue that when done correctly socialisation is not a problem. Might be worth finding some Facebook groups for Australia there are lots. X

@@sanctuaryplace also it's not your job to justify homeschool to the world you can just politely not engage and say you're happy with your decision. Especially if it feels more like an attack than discussion x

Oh my, god forbid, eh

Don’t need competition when you are one of the best because you practice your skills more than those spending hours doing other things in school 💁🏽‍♀️

@@Nikki-ks6wi I was normally schooled but from a very well educated family and never did my homework. Also, I am autistic and not being anthropocentrically biased gives the advantage of getting to the core of things in a second. Unfortunately, I, and many like me, would not be able to hold a job in our special interest field as it's all based on social skills. Actually, fortunately so. Better alone than surrounded by automata.

I apologize in advance for any talk to text errors. I am still struggling with a thumb injury and trying to avoid typing: We recognized our second child had dyslexia by the time she was six. (it was actually my father, who also has dyslexia that recognized his own struggles in her ) We sent her to the local public school for formal testing and they denied it for over a year saying kids don’t need to be diagnosed that early. Once they relented and she was tested, they denied services. We were told that under Oregon law, she did not qualify because her IQ was too high, and you could not qualify for services without both a performance deficit and a cognitive deficit. News flash: folks with high IQs can still have dyslexia and other learning disabilities. The reading lab Director suggested we get her colored lenses because she had heard that helped with dyslexia. She had absolutely zero training in dyslexia. She also suggested that my kid be given extra reading drills every day. 😬 I told this story to show that just because your kid is in public school, that doesn’t mean that they will be identified, nor properly tested, nor offered the appropriate services or accommodations in a timely manner. I 100 percent agree with you that kids with learning disabilities need to be diagnosed and offered appropriate accommodations and support so they can learn best. But I have seen many many parents switch to Unschooling because their kid with disabilities was not being served in the public school . You said that unschooled kids are less likely to be assessed and often are until the teenage years but that has not been my experience in the unschooling Community and I haven’t seen any data to support that. I think unschooling parents are more queued in their kids needs and much more flexible at offering them the strategies and accommodations to help them learn best. Our eldest child is autistic, but academically, very gifted. Because she is a girl and because of the atypical presentation of a lot of girls with autism, I don’t think she would’ve been diagnosed in the public school any earlier than she was at home, and because she was unschooled she had the freedom to get her needs met - especially her sensory needs - so that she could learn best. Our two children with dyslexia were supported with Orton Gillingham instruction, because that is what they need at the time to acquire the skills they wanted. They also listen to a lot of audiobooks and use a lot of talk to text and other appropriate accommodations - many of which would not have been available to them in an institutional school. One of my kids also has dyspraxia and fine motor impairment, and the services offered to him by the public school included 15 minutes once a semester to give me a list of exercises for him. 🙄 We opted for pediatrician prescribed occupational therapy which he attended for over two years and was minimally helpful. Again, I think appropriate services are really important and kids need to be supported in the diversity of ways that they learn best and given tools and support they deserve when dealing with with behavioral issues or learning disabilities. I don’t know that the public school is the place that they get those supports and needs met. I have seen too many folks who have the privilege to pull their kid out of public school, because the system is failing them utterly - which, of course, speaks to our need to better funded public education and revamp the way we run schools so that kids have the opportunity to succeed no matter what differences they may have.

@@ParkrosePermaculture Oh this is NOT a piece recommending public schools!!! My experiences are very similar to yours. My son had a severe oral-written language disorder and tested below the .1 percentile in every area. Five years of intensive reading therapy and he's literate, and testing between the 15th and 45th percentile. The school would have just discarded him. But I seen too many families calling themselves "unschoolers" who reject ANY structured learning that isn't child-initiated. My son is deeply grateful now that I dragged him through 5 years of miserable repetitive work, though he was pretty frustrated at the time.

Oh yeah I agree with you some “unschoolers” are actually unparenting (that’s the video I did before this one: unschooling is not failing to support your kid and help them be successful. It’s not neglect and unparenting. Folks who do that aren’t really following unschool philosophy, IMO). I am not opposed to public education, obviously, I am married to a teacher. I know that a lot of people are not interested in, or do not have the privilege or skills to unschooled their children. It is the way that we run public education - to serve our economic system and parents, not kids. I wish we could reimagine public school in a way that serves children. I’m so glad you found something that works for your kiddo. I totally agree with you that unschooling only works if it’s actually practiced, instead of being co-opted by unparenting.

@@ParkrosePermaculture That's really good language to describe an important distinction. I will use it in the future!

I would say about half of my fellow unschooler moms are divorced, actually.

@@ParkrosePermaculture ok I just don't know what to do for work or maybe I can stay doing what I do just hopefully I can find someone to go with us but that's doubtful

None of the claims you’re making disqualify any of the points I made in this video. Do you know any unschoolers or are you making up these “truths” about us whole cloth? We qualified for food stamps the first 10 years we unschooled. So no, it’s not only for middle class. And it’s not only for married parents. In fact, many of the families we know who unschool are not wealthy. Many are single parents on Medicaid and other assistance. And yes, not all educational models are accessible for everyone or work for every learner. This is why we need a diversity of models.

Here’s the thing though.. he isn’t doing the schooling.. he teaches at a public school. He has his students to educate- while she’s at home doing this. His qualifications have nothing to do with her ability to teach. My husband is a software Dev- that doesn’t mean I can code. She is a college educated woman who is doing the teaching. Let’s give her the credit she deserves.

A few things: 1. Unschooling is nothing like fundamentalist homeschooling. I think it's really important we don't conflate folks who homeschool because they're afraid of the secular and want to cloister their kids and teach them religion at home with secular unschoolers. I don't want to limit what my kids learn. I don't want to control them and indoctrinate them. I want to empower them to become their own people. Equating unschooling with fundamentalist homeschooling is like saying pastured backyard chickens live the same life as CAFO chickens. 2. My husband's education and career has no impact on unschooling. You don't have to be a teacher to unschool. In fact, unschooling looks so little like industrial school, I don't see how being a teacher prepares one to unschool. If anything, parents who are teachers not only have to deschool from their own public education, but also from training as as teachers before they unschool.

Teachers just want to feel special. The majority of homeschool parents have books to open that tell them exactly what to do, you have no idea what you are talking about. Anyone that can read can open up a book and read it out loud and give instructions.

You are talking nonsensically.

Unschoolers spend far more time in the real world than kids in institutional schools. In school, children are partitioned into artificial age stratified groups with surprisingly little guidance from adults, and no interaction with the diversity of ages that exist in the real world. Unschooled kids interact with people in the real world on a regular basis: the elderly, children, much younger and much older than them, a diversity of adults in real life settings. The argument that homeschooled kids are “poorly socialized” is a really inaccurate one, unless you are referring to a very small segment of cloistered religious homeschoolers. I also don’t think the way to prepare kids for people being jerks in the real world is to treat them badly and traumatize them in childhood. (edited bc of several talk to text errors)

What a broad and biased brush you paint with. God forbid parents are the ones to educate and instill godly values in their OWN children, such monsters. They should send them to public school so they can get a "real" education based on gender delusions, and be exposed sexually explicit content (this book is gay).Taught to believe a man is a woman just because he says so. Now boys can watch girls change in the Locker room and if the girls complain they are banned from using the girls locker room!! Where Jesus isn't real, where all our of great grandparents are primates and all black and brown people are oppressed and, white people including the children are oppressors. Maybe you don't know or even understand everything you speak about...?

Homeschool kids are more exposed to the real world a d real life experiences by having more time to them . We unschooled today went for a nature walk to identify the trees flora and fauna. Looking for what could be there natural habitat identified birds that were around us at the time . I know adults that can't do that

I am thankful every day that my kids are in a secure environment (with their family) so that we can go out into the world on a regular basis and interact with all ages/all types of people. It's not a huge stretch of the imagination to see how that is superior to subjecting my kids to the same bullies, problematic children (yes, I said it....get over it) who are acting out at school because they unfortunately have an unstable home life, and "teachers" who feel it's their right to share intimate details of their private bedroom lives as well as indoctrinate them with their own woke version of religion. But, you do you.

Why are people engaging with this person?? Where in the real world do people sit and are directed minute by minute?? School prepares you for school, it has nothing to do with any other thing in life.