His canonization is way overdue.

When the Church returns to Her true Catholicity.

Bishop Ngo Dihn Thuc helped keep Catholic tradition alive and he's the only 1 who traditionally Consecrated pre-Vatican 2 Ordained Priests.

Santo subito!!!

@@E.C.2 Archbishop Lefebvre condemned Jim for his lack of orthodoxy and heretical beliefs

God bless, & Mary keep you, Father!!!!

When you look for the Truth and don't settle for less

What is this???!!!!??? A Priest demonstrating humility?!? It is such a rare site these days it is tantamount to seeing a unicorn! God bless you Father for showing me what a true servant Priest of our Lord looks like. Ave Maria. ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

I, too, began attending an SSPX chapel a year ago when my parish was closed by Cdl Cupich with his "Renew My Church" plan. There were booming TLM parishes that I could have chosen, but after the publication of Traditiones Custodes, I realized that the priests of the SSPX were battle-hardened and would not bend the knee and abandon the Latin Mass. Sometimes in his homily, our Pastor reminds us to pray for the Pope since he is still the leader of the Church and needs our prayers.

​@@mjp1688 @Joel Wren and I too. You were forgiven Father, as far as I'm concerned, a long time before today and who am I to judge anyone in any case. God bless you

@@mjp1688 A heretic is not a member of the Church, therefore a heretic cannot be the head of the Church. Francis is an anti-Pope.

Resistance-SSPX is doing the pre-1951 Missal in some of their chapels. A true blessing would be the Thuc line,SSPV,and Resistance working together.

@@E.C.2 Have you researched the Thuc line? Fr. Hewko doesn't support it.

Amazing! Praise Jesus Christ!

stop putting your child in a stiutation to be exposed to schism. That's religous abuse.

Hear hear!

Do you mind sharing who wrote that...I would like to read that.

@@JessicaSteeleLive It is a lovely little book by Archbishop Levebvre

😢

How could one reach Bishop Williamson?

I thought he left the Society out of pride. He was constantly disobeying and going against the Society. Years before the official separation someone asked me if I would stay SSPX or “ go with bishop Williamson”...😢

@@granmabern5283he was expelled he didn’t leave “out of pride.” He kept talking about controversial stuff and the higher ups didn’t like him doing that. I met Bishop Williamson in real life and he was one of the kindest most humble men ever.

All FSSP should feel thankful to Archbishop Lefebvre... without him there would be no FSSPX for the FSSP to break off from. The only difference is FSSPX has Catholic bishops and FSSP has novus ordo bishops/ new world order bishops.

@@auniversalwoman that is NOT the only difference. The FSSP are modernists who preach the new religion, submit to modernist bishops, fund modernist seminaries and claim V2 has no errors. Major differences.

@@robertbarnes9005 well... it's a major difference nonetheless... but not all fssp priests are knowingly preaching modernism... they just know they can't speak out against the Vatican II errors.

@@auniversalwoman the FSSP proclaims modernism. As occurred recently when the society proclaimed its acceptance of TC and confirmed all its priests do so, along with all its terms. The FSSP is a tool of the modernist. It was created by JP2 with the mission to destroy the SSPX, and to this day it tries to do so.

@ Robert Barnes The FSSP exist to adore God, feed His sheep, pass on Tradition. And they continue to do so. Yes it is a battlefield, and not every priest is the messiah -- not every priest is perfect, not every one of them manages to solve all the problems in the Church before breakfast. OK, no one on earth manages all this. And yes there is bad blood between some members of the FSSP and the FSSPX. They have their reasons. But no one is joining the Fraternity or the Society to make war on the other. I only know of priests who join either because they have Faith, because they want to serve God and souls through Tradition. It is fine for you to call out particular problems, but after 13 years in the Fraternity, I do not recognise at all the picture you paint of them. Francis is doing terrible evil and is trying to destroy Catholicism. So are many powerful prelates around him. This is difficult to say. It is much easier to criticise people lower down the hierarchy, blame them for it; blame our fathers because we are in pain. This is childish; it is not a sin. It is not the worst thing in the world to be childish. We have evil abusers in positions of power, and so the children -- frightened to face this -- fight among themselves, blame each other, because it is too terrible to face the reality that the one who has taken the place of their father is wicked. The FSSP is not part of the problem; they are much more part of the solution. Being imperfect does not mean you are the problem. Why not save your fire for the enemy instead of your neighbour?

Yes he is already .....

So will Bishop Ngo Dihn Thuc.

Don’t forget the Lion of Campos! :)

That's not going to happen. St. Anathansius was threatened with Excommunciation by the Pope because he was under derress. Would would make it invalid. Plus after the fact the Pope praised Athansius for his Holiness. Marcel on the other hand was warned by the Pope not to do what he did, had already been under disciplinary action for 10 years prior, disregarded that too, before finally being excommunciated for breaking the direct command of the Pope and breaking canon law. These are all grave sins of disobedience contrary to his vows. This man will never be canonized because he died unrepentant in a state of schism which is gravely sinful. The claim to the contary is pure fantasy dellusion.

St. Athanasius of our time.

Abel of our time, a Christ-like man.

That is true, many do not know about the Latin Mass. During the COVID lockdown we moved from a NO parish ran by Dominicans that was as traditional as you could get to a TLM parish. When I talk to those back at the NO parish they think the TLM IS the NO Mass, just said in Latin! And when I invite them to the TLM, many seem afraid to leave behind what they've always known.

he confirmed me too in1986

God bless you! And the SSPX. And God protect NZ (I think it is one of the two most beautiful countries in the world...)

Anyone can attend? Not just seminarians?

@@jakec947 Yes, anyone can.

@@JamesBond-qd5rc I live about two hours from the seminary. I’ll have to make the trip. Thanks.

@@jakec947 You will love it!

What do you make of two popes, JPII and Francis, saying the SSPX is in schism?

🥰🥰🥰

Except that the analogy doesn't hold water. Disobeying his superior is not akin to kneeling under the cross with Mary. It is the exact opposite! And disparaging a valid Mass is an afront to God

What about when the superior wants you to ignore / keep silence about abuse?

@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM How is that relevant? Was his superior asking him to ignore abuse?

@@ajmeier8114 Because the blanket notion that one must always obey a superior is false. There are boundaries. These are given, in part, by the purpose that a superior has the authority in the first place. When those with authority abandon Jesus, we are not supposed to follow them. So when they expect or instruct us to abandon Tradition, we refuse. The novus ordo is an abandonment of Tradition. Tradition and Scripture are sources of Revelation, they are of God, with man's co-operation. They are greater than the papacy. Therefore the pope has no authority to require us to give up on God's Revelation. Archbishop Lefebvre was not disobedient. He was true, faithful, to God. If you look narrowly at a pope saying "Do not consecrate" and him consecrating, you likely will not get it. If you take the 2,000 year view, you might get it.

You can see if there are other Rites in your area.

Agent - Tradition does not stop at 1962. If you want to know more about SSPX, check out what all the Popes say. Inspect the Church documents. All the Popes from Paul VI to Francis (except JPI who died early in his pontificate) tell people not to attend SSPX because it is in schism. Below are quotes from the popes. Check them out. (I have capped some relevant words to make them easier to locate in quotes that appear too texty.) 1. Pope Paul VI's letter to Archbishop Lefebvre on the (schism) withdrawal of canonical recognition from the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) June 29, 1975: " … Our grief is even greater to note that the decision of the competent authority - although formulated very clearly, and fully justified, it may be said, by your refusal to modify your public and persistent opposition to the Second Vatican Council, to the post-conciliar reforms, and to the orientations to which the Pope himself is committed. " Finally, the conclusions which [the Commission of Cardinals] proposed to Us, We made all and each of them Ours, and We personally ordered that they be immediately put into force." Source: PAUL VI, "Lettre de S. S. Le Pape Paul VI a Mgr. Lefebvre," 29 June 1975, La Documentation Catholique, n. 1689, trans. in M. DAVIES, Apologia Pro Marcel Lefebvre, p. 113. 2. Pope St. John Paul II on SSPX schism in his Ecclesia Dei Adflicta, February 7, 1988: " In the present circumstances I wish especially to make an appeal both solemn and heartfelt, paternal and fraternal, to all those who until now have been linked in various ways to the movement of Archbishop Lefebvre, that they may fulfil the grave duty of remaining united to the Vicar of Christ in the unity of the Catholic Church, and of CEASING THEIR SUPPORT IN ANY WAY FOR THAT MOVEMENT. Everyone should be aware that formal ADHERENCE TO THE SCHISM IS A GRAVE OFFENCE AGAINST GOD and carries the penalty of excommunication decreed by the Church's law." www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/motu_proprio/documents/hf_jp-ii_motu-proprio_02071988_ecclesia-dei.html 3. Pope Benedict XVI in his Letter to the Bishops dated March 10, 2009:: "The fact that the Society of Saint Pius X does not possess a canonical status in the Church is not, in the end, based on disciplinary but on doctrinal reasons. As long as the Society does not have a canonical status in the Church, its ministers do not exercise legitimate ministries in the Church. "In order to make this clear once again: UNTIL THE DOCTRINAL QUESTIONS ARE CLARIFIED, THE SOCIETY HAS NO CANONICAL STATUS IN THE CHURCH, and its ministers - even though they have been freed of the ecclesiastical penalty - do not legitimately exercise any ministry in the Church… "This will make it clear that the problems now to be addressed are essentially DOCTRINAL in nature and concern primarily THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE SECOND VATICAN COUNCIL AND THE POST-CONCILIAR MAGISTERIUM OF THE POPES. "The Church’s teaching authority cannot be frozen in the year 1962 - this must be quite clear to the Society. www.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/letters/2009/documents/hf_ben-xvi_let_20090310_remissione-scomunica.html 4. Pope Francis did give SSPX the faculty to hear confessions legally and validly, because it does not contradict Canon Law. There have always been exceptional circumstances or instances of necessity in which the Church recognizes as valid and licit the reception of sacraments from priests who may be immoral, schismatic, irreligious, laicized, or even non-Catholic, provided their denominations have sacramental confessions. Canon 844 §2. Whenever necessity requires it or true spiritual advantage suggests it, and provided that danger of error or of indifferentism is avoided, the Christian faithful for whom it is physically or morally impossible to approach a Catholic minister are permitted to receive the sacraments of penance, Eucharist, and anointing of the sick from non-Catholic ministers in whose Churches these sacraments are valid. Canon 976 Even though a priest lacks the faculty to hear confessions, he absolves validly and licitly any penitents whatsoever in danger of death from any censures and sins, even if an approved priest is present. While Pope Francis' gesture of mercy shows an important precedent -- for the good of souls, the Church has the power to grant faculties even to priests who are not in good standing -- it is nevertheless NOT AN APPROVAL OF THEM - not an approval of SSPX, or their situation. 5. Pope Francis in his letter Misericordia et Misera, November 20, 2916: “For the pastoral benefit of these faithful (who attend churches officiated by the SSPX ) and trusting in the good will of their priests to strive with God’s HELP FOR THE RECOVERY OF FULL COMMUNION IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, I have personally decided to extend this faculty beyond the Jubilee Year, until further provisions are made, lest anyone be deprived of the sacramental sign of reconciliation through the Church’s pardon.” www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/apost_letters/documents/papa-francesco-lettera-ap_20161120_misericordia-et-misera.html Very clearly, Pope Francis' motu proprio shows there is still the need for SSPX “to recover full communion in the Catholic Church.” Therefore, Pope Benedict's statement on SSPX's non-canonical status in the Church still stands. 6. Pope Francis' letter, dated July 16, 2021, that accompanies Traditionis Custodes, specifically mentioning SSPX to be in "schism." Here's the 2nd paragraph, fully quoted: "Most people understand the motives that prompted St. John Paul II and Benedict XVI to allow the use of the Roman Missal, promulgated by St. Pius V and edited by St. John XXIII in 1962, for the Eucharistic Sacrifice. The faculty - granted by the indult of the Congregation for Divine Worship in 1984 and confirmed by St. John Paul II in the Motu Proprio Ecclesia Dei in 1988 - was above all MOTIVATED BY THE DESIRE TO FOSTER THE HEALING OF THE SCHISM WITH THE MOVEMENT OF MONS. LEFEBVRE. With the ecclesial intention of restoring the unity of the Church, the Bishops were thus asked to accept with generosity the “just aspirations” of the faithful who requested the use of that Missal." www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/motu_proprio/documents/20210716-motu-proprio-traditionis-custodes.html 7. About the SSPX faculty to officiate in Catholic weddings (Letter from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith dated March 27, 2017). It states that with the diocese's permission, an SSPX priest may officiate in a Catholic wedding but only if there is no diocesan or religious priest available, and the documents must be forwarded to the diocesan curia. It should be remembered, too, that in the sacrament of matrimony, the ministers are the couple themselves. A priest is only there to witness for the Church and receive the couple's consent. Other than those limited faculties, the sacraments of the SSPX, although valid, are not recognized by the Church because, as Pope Benedict XVI writes, the Society has no canonical status and no legitimate ministry in the Church. 8. Many people, including bishops, who say SSPX is not in schism or has reconciled with the Church, should be able to produce a document similar to Pope John Paul II's letter welcoming the SSPX in Campos, Brazil (now the Union of St. John Mary Vianney) into the fold, otherwise they should not be believed. Here's the link to Pope JPII letter: www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=4141 Thanks. God bless you.

Council of Trent, at Sess. 23, canon 7, says that those who aren't sent by the ecclesiastical and canonical Authority of the Church aren't legitimate. It is de fide, without exception. But now, only a Pope is an canonical Authority, only him can give bishops a mission. Since neither Abp. Lefebvre, nor the SSPX clerics received a canonical mission to consecrate bishops, and to say Masses, the attendance to SSPX Masses doesn't fulfill the Dominican Duty, so attending their Masses is a sin when one attends as he would attend the Sunday at his legitimate parish. So it is bad that these clerics joined SSPX instead of institutes with canonical power, because without canonical mission, the ministers are sending themselves and leading people astray.

@@fidefidelis4912 What don't you understand about "state of emergency"? Your pope is a fraud, and not even Christian.

Thankyou for the great news out of Poland! Deo Gratias!🎉❤

deo gratias

FSSP and FSSPX are not the same thing. FSSP is legitimate; FSSPX (or SSPX) is not. According to Pope Benedict XVI, SSPX has no legitimate ministry in the Church. From Pope Benedict XVI's Letter to Bishops of the Catholic Church, dated March 2009: "The fact that the Society of Saint Pius X does not possess a canonical status in the Church is not, in the end, based on disciplinary but on doctrinal reasons. As long as the Society does not have a canonical status in the Church, its ministers do not exercise legitimate ministries in the Church. There needs to be a distinction, then, between the disciplinary level, which deals with individuals as such, and the doctrinal level, at which ministry and institution are involved. In order to make this clear once again: Until the doctrinal questions are clarified, the Society has no canonical status in the Church, and its ministers - even though they have been freed of the ecclesiastical penalty - do not legitimately exercise any ministry in the Church". www.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/letters/2009/documents/hf_ben-xvi_let_2009""0"310_remissione-scomunica.htm When you click the above link, you might land on an "error" page. Just click on the lower right hand corner and it will take you to the Benedict section of the Vatican website. The Benedictine official documents has a 2-page subsection on "Letters." Look for the one dated March 2009.

Jimmy, Stick with the FSSP. They're kosher. But the SSPX is schismatic. Don't go there. All the Popes from Paul VI to Francis (except JPI who died early in his pontificate) tell people not to attend SSPX because it is in schism. Below are quotes from the popes. Check them out. (I have capped some relevant words to make them easier to locate in quotes that appear too texty.) 1. Pope Paul VI's letter to Archbishop Lefebvre on the (schism) withdrawal of canonical recognition from the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) June 29, 1975: " … Our grief is even greater to note that the decision of the competent authority - although formulated very clearly, and fully justified, it may be said, by your refusal to modify your public and persistent opposition to the Second Vatican Council, to the post-conciliar reforms, and to the orientations to which the Pope himself is committed. " Finally, the conclusions which [the Commission of Cardinals] proposed to Us, We made all and each of them Ours, and We personally ordered that they be immediately put into force." Source: PAUL VI, "Lettre de S. S. Le Pape Paul VI a Mgr. Lefebvre," 29 June 1975, La Documentation Catholique, n. 1689, trans. in M. DAVIES, Apologia Pro Marcel Lefebvre, p. 113. 2. Pope St. John Paul II on SSPX schism in his Ecclesia Dei Adflicta, February 7, 1988: " In the present circumstances I wish especially to make an appeal both solemn and heartfelt, paternal and fraternal, to all those who until now have been linked in various ways to the movement of Archbishop Lefebvre, that they may fulfil the grave duty of remaining united to the Vicar of Christ in the unity of the Catholic Church, and of CEASING THEIR SUPPORT IN ANY WAY FOR THAT MOVEMENT. Everyone should be aware that formal ADHERENCE TO THE SCHISM IS A GRAVE OFFENCE AGAINST GOD and carries the penalty of excommunication decreed by the Church's law." www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/motu_proprio/documents/hf_jp-ii_motu-proprio_02071988_ecclesia-dei.html 3. Pope Benedict XVI in his Letter to the Bishops dated March 10, 2009:: "The fact that the Society of Saint Pius X does not possess a canonical status in the Church is not, in the end, based on disciplinary but on doctrinal reasons. As long as the Society does not have a canonical status in the Church, its ministers do not exercise legitimate ministries in the Church. "In order to make this clear once again: UNTIL THE DOCTRINAL QUESTIONS ARE CLARIFIED, THE SOCIETY HAS NO CANONICAL STATUS IN THE CHURCH, and its ministers - even though they have been freed of the ecclesiastical penalty - do not legitimately exercise any ministry in the Church… "This will make it clear that the problems now to be addressed are essentially DOCTRINAL in nature and concern primarily THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE SECOND VATICAN COUNCIL AND THE POST-CONCILIAR MAGISTERIUM OF THE POPES. "The Church’s teaching authority cannot be frozen in the year 1962 - this must be quite clear to the Society. www.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/letters/2009/documents/hf_ben-xvi_let_20090310_remissione-scomunica.html 4. Pope Francis did give SSPX the faculty to hear confessions legally and validly, because it does not contradict Canon Law. There have always been exceptional circumstances or instances of necessity in which the Church recognizes as valid and licit the reception of sacraments from priests who may be immoral, schismatic, irreligious, laicized, or even non-Catholic, provided their denominations have sacramental confessions. Canon 844 §2. Whenever necessity requires it or true spiritual advantage suggests it, and provided that danger of error or of indifferentism is avoided, the Christian faithful for whom it is physically or morally impossible to approach a Catholic minister are permitted to receive the sacraments of penance, Eucharist, and anointing of the sick from non-Catholic ministers in whose Churches these sacraments are valid. Canon 976 Even though a priest lacks the faculty to hear confessions, he absolves validly and licitly any penitents whatsoever in danger of death from any censures and sins, even if an approved priest is present. While Pope Francis' gesture of mercy shows an important precedent -- for the good of souls, the Church has the power to grant faculties even to priests who are not in good standing -- it is nevertheless NOT AN APPROVAL OF THEM - not an approval of SSPX, or their situation. 5. Pope Francis in his letter Misericordia et Misera, November 20, 2916: “For the pastoral benefit of these faithful (who attend churches officiated by the SSPX ) and trusting in the good will of their priests to strive with God’s HELP FOR THE RECOVERY OF FULL COMMUNION IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, I have personally decided to extend this faculty beyond the Jubilee Year, until further provisions are made, lest anyone be deprived of the sacramental sign of reconciliation through the Church’s pardon.” www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/apost_letters/documents/papa-francesco-lettera-ap_20161120_misericordia-et-misera.html Very clearly, Pope Francis' motu proprio shows there is still the need for SSPX “to recover full communion in the Catholic Church.” Therefore, Pope Benedict's statement on SSPX's non-canonical status in the Church still stands. 6. Pope Francis' letter, dated July 16, 2021, that accompanies Traditionis Custodes, specifically mentioning SSPX to be in "schism." Here's the 2nd paragraph, fully quoted: "Most people understand the motives that prompted St. John Paul II and Benedict XVI to allow the use of the Roman Missal, promulgated by St. Pius V and edited by St. John XXIII in 1962, for the Eucharistic Sacrifice. The faculty - granted by the indult of the Congregation for Divine Worship in 1984 and confirmed by St. John Paul II in the Motu Proprio Ecclesia Dei in 1988 - was above all MOTIVATED BY THE DESIRE TO FOSTER THE HEALING OF THE SCHISM WITH THE MOVEMENT OF MONS. LEFEBVRE. With the ecclesial intention of restoring the unity of the Church, the Bishops were thus asked to accept with generosity the “just aspirations” of the faithful who requested the use of that Missal." www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/motu_proprio/documents/20210716-motu-proprio-traditionis-custodes.html 7. About the SSPX faculty to officiate in Catholic weddings (Letter from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith dated March 27, 2017). It states that with the diocese's permission, an SSPX priest may officiate in a Catholic wedding but only if there is no diocesan or religious priest available, and the documents must be forwarded to the diocesan curia. It should be remembered, too, that in the sacrament of matrimony, the ministers are the couple themselves. A priest is only there to witness for the Church and receive the couple's consent. Other than those limited faculties, the sacraments of the SSPX, although valid, are not recognized by the Church because, as Pope Benedict XVI writes, the Society has no canonical status and no legitimate ministry in the Church. 8. Many people, including bishops, who say SSPX is not in schism or has reconciled with the Church, should be able to produce a document similar to Pope John Paul II's letter welcoming the SSPX in Campos, Brazil (now the Union of St. John Mary Vianney) into the fold, otherwise they should not be believed. Here's the link to Pope JPII letter: www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=4141 Thanks. God bless you.

Thank you ! Very encouraging - I am praying. 🙏

The other possibility is that we are in the end times!

@@Mike-pf1ru We are in the end times. At least the beginning of those times. We are living through parts of the book of revelation and Daniel right now

@@TheAmosTree It certainly appears to be the most probable explanation, but I'm not going to plant my flag on that hill just yet. I believe its a doctrine of the Church that prophecy is not completely understood until it is fulfilled. But I am ready and watching, as our Lord commands in Matthew 25.

@@Mike-pf1ru I agree. I think people forget to watch. Many pray but not as many watch. Jesus let us know what to look out for.

Lefebvre died excommunicated. BTW, if you want to know the official stand of SSPX with the Church, check what the Popes say. All the Popes from Paul VI to Francis (except JPI who died early in his pontificate) tell people not to attend SSPX because it is in schism. Below are quotes from the popes. Check them out. (I have capped some relevant words to make them easier to locate in quotes that appear too texty.) 1. Pope Paul VI's letter to Archbishop Lefebvre on the (schism) withdrawal of canonical recognition from the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) June 29, 1975: " … Our grief is even greater to note that the decision of the competent authority - although formulated very clearly, and fully justified, it may be said, by your refusal to modify your public and persistent opposition to the Second Vatican Council, to the post-conciliar reforms, and to the orientations to which the Pope himself is committed. " Finally, the conclusions which [the Commission of Cardinals] proposed to Us, We made all and each of them Ours, and We personally ordered that they be immediately put into force." Source: PAUL VI, "Lettre de S. S. Le Pape Paul VI a Mgr. Lefebvre," 29 June 1975, La Documentation Catholique, n. 1689, trans. in M. DAVIES, Apologia Pro Marcel Lefebvre, p. 113. 2. Pope St. John Paul II on SSPX schism in his Ecclesia Dei Adflicta, February 7, 1988: " In the present circumstances I wish especially to make an appeal both solemn and heartfelt, paternal and fraternal, to all those who until now have been linked in various ways to the movement of Archbishop Lefebvre, that they may fulfil the grave duty of remaining united to the Vicar of Christ in the unity of the Catholic Church, and of CEASING THEIR SUPPORT IN ANY WAY FOR THAT MOVEMENT. Everyone should be aware that formal ADHERENCE TO THE SCHISM IS A GRAVE OFFENCE AGAINST GOD and carries the penalty of excommunication decreed by the Church's law." www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/motu_proprio/documents/hf_jp-ii_motu-proprio_02071988_ecclesia-dei.html 3. Pope Benedict XVI in his Letter to the Bishops dated March 10, 2009:: "The fact that the Society of Saint Pius X does not possess a canonical status in the Church is not, in the end, based on disciplinary but on doctrinal reasons. As long as the Society does not have a canonical status in the Church, its ministers do not exercise legitimate ministries in the Church. "In order to make this clear once again: UNTIL THE DOCTRINAL QUESTIONS ARE CLARIFIED, THE SOCIETY HAS NO CANONICAL STATUS IN THE CHURCH, and its ministers - even though they have been freed of the ecclesiastical penalty - do not legitimately exercise any ministry in the Church… "This will make it clear that the problems now to be addressed are essentially DOCTRINAL in nature and concern primarily THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE SECOND VATICAN COUNCIL AND THE POST-CONCILIAR MAGISTERIUM OF THE POPES. "The Church’s teaching authority cannot be frozen in the year 1962 - this must be quite clear to the Society. www.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/letters/2009/documents/hf_ben-xvi_let_20090310_remissione-scomunica.html 4. Pope Francis did give SSPX the faculty to hear confessions legally and validly, because it does not contradict Canon Law. There have always been exceptional circumstances or instances of necessity in which the Church recognizes as valid and licit the reception of sacraments from priests who may be immoral, schismatic, irreligious, laicized, or even non-Catholic, provided their denominations have sacramental confessions. Canon 844 §2. Whenever necessity requires it or true spiritual advantage suggests it, and provided that danger of error or of indifferentism is avoided, the Christian faithful for whom it is physically or morally impossible to approach a Catholic minister are permitted to receive the sacraments of penance, Eucharist, and anointing of the sick from non-Catholic ministers in whose Churches these sacraments are valid. Canon 976 Even though a priest lacks the faculty to hear confessions, he absolves validly and licitly any penitents whatsoever in danger of death from any censures and sins, even if an approved priest is present. While Pope Francis' gesture of mercy shows an important precedent -- for the good of souls, the Church has the power to grant faculties even to priests who are not in good standing -- it is nevertheless NOT AN APPROVAL OF THEM - not an approval of SSPX, or their situation. 5. Pope Francis in his letter Misericordia et Misera, November 20, 2916: “For the pastoral benefit of these faithful (who attend churches officiated by the SSPX ) and trusting in the good will of their priests to strive with God’s HELP FOR THE RECOVERY OF FULL COMMUNION IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, I have personally decided to extend this faculty beyond the Jubilee Year, until further provisions are made, lest anyone be deprived of the sacramental sign of reconciliation through the Church’s pardon.” www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/apost_letters/documents/papa-francesco-lettera-ap_20161120_misericordia-et-misera.html Very clearly, Pope Francis' motu proprio shows there is still the need for SSPX “to recover full communion in the Catholic Church.” Therefore, Pope Benedict's statement on SSPX's non-canonical status in the Church still stands. 6. Pope Francis' letter, dated July 16, 2021, that accompanies Traditionis Custodes, specifically mentioning SSPX to be in "schism." Here's the 2nd paragraph, fully quoted: "Most people understand the motives that prompted St. John Paul II and Benedict XVI to allow the use of the Roman Missal, promulgated by St. Pius V and edited by St. John XXIII in 1962, for the Eucharistic Sacrifice. The faculty - granted by the indult of the Congregation for Divine Worship in 1984 and confirmed by St. John Paul II in the Motu Proprio Ecclesia Dei in 1988 - was above all MOTIVATED BY THE DESIRE TO FOSTER THE HEALING OF THE SCHISM WITH THE MOVEMENT OF MONS. LEFEBVRE. With the ecclesial intention of restoring the unity of the Church, the Bishops were thus asked to accept with generosity the “just aspirations” of the faithful who requested the use of that Missal." www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/motu_proprio/documents/20210716-motu-proprio-traditionis-custodes.html 7. About the SSPX faculty to officiate in Catholic weddings (Letter from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith dated March 27, 2017). It states that with the diocese's permission, an SSPX priest may officiate in a Catholic wedding but only if there is no diocesan or religious priest available, and the documents must be forwarded to the diocesan curia. It should be remembered, too, that in the sacrament of matrimony, the ministers are the couple themselves. A priest is only there to witness for the Church and receive the couple's consent. Other than those limited faculties, the sacraments of the SSPX, although valid, are not recognized by the Church because, as Pope Benedict XVI writes, the Society has no canonical status and no legitimate ministry in the Church. 8. Many people, including bishops, who say SSPX is not in schism or has reconciled with the Church, should be able to produce a document similar to Pope John Paul II's letter welcoming the SSPX in Campos, Brazil (now the Union of St. John Mary Vianney) into the fold, otherwise they should not be believed. Here's the link to Pope JPII letter: www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=4141 Thanks. God bless you.

The 1983 code is an abomination which teaches that non-Catholics can be given Holy Communion

very interesting, thank you for sharing. the archbishop’s referring to the “state of emergency” had piqued my interest when first learning about the history of the SSPX, although i am sorry to admit i did not research further at the time. the fact that such action was only sanctioned by canon law following the 1983 code is quite compelling! i pray that God continue to bless those true defenders of his church. there are so many voices out there now that the crisis has become so clear - priests and laypeople who now claim to be working on the same goal of defending the Church through Her tradition, so it is not always obvious to the faithful who is really behind the curtain, so to speak. i have been searching in earnest for some time now, trying to separate wheat from chaff, to find the authentic catholic position and proper stance on the current crisis, who act out of that love for God and the faith rather than the vanity of all the rest, and i must say i do believe that the SSPX is where such men are to be found.

Steve: "If the old 1917 Code of Canon Law was still in effect..Archbishop Lefebvre would have been automatically excommunicated for not having Pope John Paul II's permission." Automatic excommunication for this exact reason is in the 1983 Code of Canon Law: Can. 1382 A bishop who consecrates some one a bishop without a pontifical mandate and the person who receives the consecration from him incur a latae sententiae excommunication reserved to the Apostolic See.

@@littlerock5256 Can. 1323 The following are not subject to a penalty when they have violated a law or precept: 4/ a person who acted coerced by grave fear, even if only relatively grave, or due to necessity or grave inconvenience unless the act is intrinsically evil or tends to the harm of souls; Can. 1324 §1. The perpetrator of a violation is not exempt from a penalty, but the penalty established by law or precept must be tempered or a penance employed in its place if the delict was committed: 1/ by a person who had only the imperfect use of reason; 5/ by a person who was coerced by grave fear, even if only relatively grave, or due to necessity or grave inconvenience if the delict is intrinsically evil or tends to the harm of souls;

@@SteveSwags The pope is the custodian of and final arbitrator of canon law. JPII did not apply the canons you cite to Lefebvre, he applied Can. 1382 , which automatically excommunicated Lefebvre and which JPII affirmed. JPII had also communicated twice with Lefebvre beforehand, once the day prior to the consecrations, warning him that if he went ahead it would be a schismatic act. Lefebve's determination of canon law does not trump that of the pope. JPII declared Lefebvre both excommunicated and in schism, and that is completely in the power of a pope to do and no one can override it. "Rome has spoken, the case is closed." --St.Augustine of Hippo

All the Popes from Paul VI to Francis (except JPI who died early in his pontificate) tell people not to attend SSPX because it is in schism. Below are quotes from the popes. Check them out. (I have capped some relevant words to make them easier to locate in quotes that appear too texty.) 1. Pope Paul VI's letter to Archbishop Lefebvre on the (schism) withdrawal of canonical recognition from the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) June 29, 1975: " … Our grief is even greater to note that the decision of the competent authority - although formulated very clearly, and fully justified, it may be said, by your refusal to modify your public and persistent opposition to the Second Vatican Council, to the post-conciliar reforms, and to the orientations to which the Pope himself is committed. " Finally, the conclusions which [the Commission of Cardinals] proposed to Us, We made all and each of them Ours, and We personally ordered that they be immediately put into force." Source: PAUL VI, "Lettre de S. S. Le Pape Paul VI a Mgr. Lefebvre," 29 June 1975, La Documentation Catholique, n. 1689, trans. in M. DAVIES, Apologia Pro Marcel Lefebvre, p. 113. 2. Pope St. John Paul II on SSPX schism in his Ecclesia Dei Adflicta, February 7, 1988: " In the present circumstances I wish especially to make an appeal both solemn and heartfelt, paternal and fraternal, to all those who until now have been linked in various ways to the movement of Archbishop Lefebvre, that they may fulfil the grave duty of remaining united to the Vicar of Christ in the unity of the Catholic Church, and of CEASING THEIR SUPPORT IN ANY WAY FOR THAT MOVEMENT. Everyone should be aware that formal ADHERENCE TO THE SCHISM IS A GRAVE OFFENCE AGAINST GOD and carries the penalty of excommunication decreed by the Church's law." www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/motu_proprio/documents/hf_jp-ii_motu-proprio_02071988_ecclesia-dei.html 3. Pope Benedict XVI in his Letter to the Bishops dated March 10, 2009:: "The fact that the Society of Saint Pius X does not possess a canonical status in the Church is not, in the end, based on disciplinary but on doctrinal reasons. As long as the Society does not have a canonical status in the Church, its ministers do not exercise legitimate ministries in the Church. "In order to make this clear once again: UNTIL THE DOCTRINAL QUESTIONS ARE CLARIFIED, THE SOCIETY HAS NO CANONICAL STATUS IN THE CHURCH, and its ministers - even though they have been freed of the ecclesiastical penalty - do not legitimately exercise any ministry in the Church… "This will make it clear that the problems now to be addressed are essentially DOCTRINAL in nature and concern primarily THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE SECOND VATICAN COUNCIL AND THE POST-CONCILIAR MAGISTERIUM OF THE POPES. "The Church’s teaching authority cannot be frozen in the year 1962 - this must be quite clear to the Society. www.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/letters/2009/documents/hf_ben-xvi_let_20090310_remissione-scomunica.html 4. Pope Francis did give SSPX the faculty to hear confessions legally and validly, because it does not contradict Canon Law. There have always been exceptional circumstances or instances of necessity in which the Church recognizes as valid and licit the reception of sacraments from priests who may be immoral, schismatic, irreligious, laicized, or even non-Catholic, provided their denominations have sacramental confessions. Canon 844 §2. Whenever necessity requires it or true spiritual advantage suggests it, and provided that danger of error or of indifferentism is avoided, the Christian faithful for whom it is physically or morally impossible to approach a Catholic minister are permitted to receive the sacraments of penance, Eucharist, and anointing of the sick from non-Catholic ministers in whose Churches these sacraments are valid. Canon 976 Even though a priest lacks the faculty to hear confessions, he absolves validly and licitly any penitents whatsoever in danger of death from any censures and sins, even if an approved priest is present. While Pope Francis' gesture of mercy shows an important precedent -- for the good of souls, the Church has the power to grant faculties even to priests who are not in good standing -- it is nevertheless NOT AN APPROVAL OF THEM - not an approval of SSPX, or their situation. 5. Pope Francis in his letter Misericordia et Misera, November 20, 2916: “For the pastoral benefit of these faithful (who attend churches officiated by the SSPX ) and trusting in the good will of their priests to strive with God’s HELP FOR THE RECOVERY OF FULL COMMUNION IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, I have personally decided to extend this faculty beyond the Jubilee Year, until further provisions are made, lest anyone be deprived of the sacramental sign of reconciliation through the Church’s pardon.” www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/apost_letters/documents/papa-francesco-lettera-ap_20161120_misericordia-et-misera.html Very clearly, Pope Francis' motu proprio shows there is still the need for SSPX “to recover full communion in the Catholic Church.” Therefore, Pope Benedict's statement on SSPX's non-canonical status in the Church still stands. 6. Pope Francis' letter, dated July 16, 2021, that accompanies Traditionis Custodes, specifically mentioning SSPX to be in "schism." Here's the 2nd paragraph, fully quoted: "Most people understand the motives that prompted St. John Paul II and Benedict XVI to allow the use of the Roman Missal, promulgated by St. Pius V and edited by St. John XXIII in 1962, for the Eucharistic Sacrifice. The faculty - granted by the indult of the Congregation for Divine Worship in 1984 and confirmed by St. John Paul II in the Motu Proprio Ecclesia Dei in 1988 - was above all MOTIVATED BY THE DESIRE TO FOSTER THE HEALING OF THE SCHISM WITH THE MOVEMENT OF MONS. LEFEBVRE. With the ecclesial intention of restoring the unity of the Church, the Bishops were thus asked to accept with generosity the “just aspirations” of the faithful who requested the use of that Missal." www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/motu_proprio/documents/20210716-motu-proprio-traditionis-custodes.html 7. About the SSPX faculty to officiate in Catholic weddings (Letter from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith dated March 27, 2017). It states that with the diocese's permission, an SSPX priest may officiate in a Catholic wedding but only if there is no diocesan or religious priest available, and the documents must be forwarded to the diocesan curia. It should be remembered, too, that in the sacrament of matrimony, the ministers are the couple themselves. A priest is only there to witness for the Church and receive the couple's consent. Other than those limited faculties, the sacraments of the SSPX, although valid, are not recognized by the Church because, as Pope Benedict XVI writes, the Society has no canonical status and no legitimate ministry in the Church. 8. Many people, including bishops, who say SSPX is not in schism or has reconciled with the Church, should be able to produce a document similar to Pope John Paul II's letter welcoming the SSPX in Campos, Brazil (now the Union of St. John Mary Vianney) into the fold, otherwise they should not be believed. Here's the link to Pope JPII letter: www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=4141 Thanks. God bless you.

St.Benedict Lacey Springs,Alabama Holy Mass every Sunday

Right! I think that is what God expects of the faithful. An instinct for Him rather than a canon law degree and expertise in ecclesiology. It is important that priests have an idea of these, and laity so far as they are talented for it. But it cannot be the criterion of salvation. I look up to medieval peasants who I am sure would cut quickly through our knots and arguments, having an eye for the good, the true and the beautiful. The true Mass is meant to be recognisable: by the rites and regularity and the company and the demeanour of the priest and his homilies. I have not thought about this reply. Maybe it has a fatal flaw. But imagine how normal people of centuries ago would deal with the woke agenda. They would cut right through it. So also some of the complications which endless laws create. OK, I might be multiplying fatal flaws... but thanks for your refreshing comment.

@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM you're very welcome Father, I remembered after I commented, it's the 1962 missile, I was born in Belfast in the north of Ireland in 1963, I remember when my family and I were forced to leave our home and become refugees during the war because of our faith in the 1970's, I remember thinking to myself when I attended "mass" in the south of Ireland, "this must be how they do The Holy Sacrifice Of The Mass down here, (I didn't know any different) about what was going on in The Vatican, I just thought to myself, this must be how the collaborate Holy Mass down here.... I know different now, from not feeling at home for years until I found myself back home at, The Holy Sacrifice Of The Mass in Dublin. I pray to God' and His Blessed Mother, everyone finds their way back to The Mass Of The Ages, The Traditional Latin Mass. May God' continue to Bless, Guide and Protect you Father, Amen 🙏 PAX🕊️✝️⛪🇻🇦☘️🇮🇪

@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM now that's an entertaining thought ...how would the medieval folks deal with the woke crowd and their " logic " 😜

Lefebvre is a saint compared to evil Bergoglio

Me too!

Amen

But Pope Benedict XVI says it is not. And Pope Benedict's is the last word. from Pope Benedict XVI's Letter to Bishops of the Catholic Church, dated March 2009: "The fact that the Society of Saint Pius X does not possess a canonical status in the Church is not, in the end, based on disciplinary but on doctrinal reasons. As long as the Society does not have a canonical status in the Church, its ministers do not exercise legitimate ministries in the Church. There needs to be a distinction, then, between the disciplinary level, which deals with individuals as such, and the doctrinal level, at which ministry and institution are involved. In order to make this clear once again: Until the doctrinal questions are clarified, the Society has no canonical status in the Church, and its ministers - even though they have been freed of the ecclesiastical penalty - do not legitimately exercise any ministry in the Church". www.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/letters/2009/documents/hf_ben-xvi_let_2009""0"310_remissione-scomunica.htm When you click the above link, you might land on an "error" page. Just click on the lower right hand corner and it will take you to the Benedict section of the Vatican website. The Benedictine official documents has a 2-page subsection on "Letters." Look for the one dated March 2009.

All the Popes from Paul VI to Francis (except JPI who died early in his pontificate) tell people not to attend SSPX because it is in schism. Below are quotes from the popes. Check them out. (I have capped some relevant words to make them easier to locate in quotes that appear too texty.) 1. Pope Paul VI's letter to Archbishop Lefebvre on the (schism) withdrawal of canonical recognition from the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) June 29, 1975: " … Our grief is even greater to note that the decision of the competent authority - although formulated very clearly, and fully justified, it may be said, by your refusal to modify your public and persistent opposition to the Second Vatican Council, to the post-conciliar reforms, and to the orientations to which the Pope himself is committed. " Finally, the conclusions which [the Commission of Cardinals] proposed to Us, We made all and each of them Ours, and We personally ordered that they be immediately put into force." Source: PAUL VI, "Lettre de S. S. Le Pape Paul VI a Mgr. Lefebvre," 29 June 1975, La Documentation Catholique, n. 1689, trans. in M. DAVIES, Apologia Pro Marcel Lefebvre, p. 113. 2. Pope St. John Paul II on SSPX schism in his Ecclesia Dei Adflicta, February 7, 1988: " In the present circumstances I wish especially to make an appeal both solemn and heartfelt, paternal and fraternal, to all those who until now have been linked in various ways to the movement of Archbishop Lefebvre, that they may fulfil the grave duty of remaining united to the Vicar of Christ in the unity of the Catholic Church, and of CEASING THEIR SUPPORT IN ANY WAY FOR THAT MOVEMENT. Everyone should be aware that formal ADHERENCE TO THE SCHISM IS A GRAVE OFFENCE AGAINST GOD and carries the penalty of excommunication decreed by the Church's law." www.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/motu_proprio/documents/hf_jp-ii_motu-proprio_02071988_ecclesia-dei.html 3. Pope Benedict XVI in his Letter to the Bishops dated March 10, 2009:: "The fact that the Society of Saint Pius X does not possess a canonical status in the Church is not, in the end, based on disciplinary but on doctrinal reasons. As long as the Society does not have a canonical status in the Church, its ministers do not exercise legitimate ministries in the Church. "In order to make this clear once again: UNTIL THE DOCTRINAL QUESTIONS ARE CLARIFIED, THE SOCIETY HAS NO CANONICAL STATUS IN THE CHURCH, and its ministers - even though they have been freed of the ecclesiastical penalty - do not legitimately exercise any ministry in the Church… "This will make it clear that the problems now to be addressed are essentially DOCTRINAL in nature and concern primarily THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE SECOND VATICAN COUNCIL AND THE POST-CONCILIAR MAGISTERIUM OF THE POPES. "The Church’s teaching authority cannot be frozen in the year 1962 - this must be quite clear to the Society. www.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/letters/2009/documents/hf_ben-xvi_let_20090310_remissione-scomunica.html 4. Pope Francis did give SSPX the faculty to hear confessions legally and validly, because it does not contradict Canon Law. There have always been exceptional circumstances or instances of necessity in which the Church recognizes as valid and licit the reception of sacraments from priests who may be immoral, schismatic, irreligious, laicized, or even non-Catholic, provided their denominations have sacramental confessions. Canon 844 §2. Whenever necessity requires it or true spiritual advantage suggests it, and provided that danger of error or of indifferentism is avoided, the Christian faithful for whom it is physically or morally impossible to approach a Catholic minister are permitted to receive the sacraments of penance, Eucharist, and anointing of the sick from non-Catholic ministers in whose Churches these sacraments are valid. Canon 976 Even though a priest lacks the faculty to hear confessions, he absolves validly and licitly any penitents whatsoever in danger of death from any censures and sins, even if an approved priest is present. While Pope Francis' gesture of mercy shows an important precedent -- for the good of souls, the Church has the power to grant faculties even to priests who are not in good standing -- it is nevertheless NOT AN APPROVAL OF THEM - not an approval of SSPX, or their situation. 5. Pope Francis in his letter Misericordia et Misera, November 20, 2916: “For the pastoral benefit of these faithful (who attend churches officiated by the SSPX ) and trusting in the good will of their priests to strive with God’s HELP FOR THE RECOVERY OF FULL COMMUNION IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, I have personally decided to extend this faculty beyond the Jubilee Year, until further provisions are made, lest anyone be deprived of the sacramental sign of reconciliation through the Church’s pardon.” www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/apost_letters/documents/papa-francesco-lettera-ap_20161120_misericordia-et-misera.html Very clearly, Pope Francis' motu proprio shows there is still the need for SSPX “to recover full communion in the Catholic Church.” Therefore, Pope Benedict's statement on SSPX's non-canonical status in the Church still stands. 6. Pope Francis' letter, dated July 16, 2021, that accompanies Traditionis Custodes, specifically mentioning SSPX to be in "schism." Here's the 2nd paragraph, fully quoted: "Most people understand the motives that prompted St. John Paul II and Benedict XVI to allow the use of the Roman Missal, promulgated by St. Pius V and edited by St. John XXIII in 1962, for the Eucharistic Sacrifice. The faculty - granted by the indult of the Congregation for Divine Worship in 1984 and confirmed by St. John Paul II in the Motu Proprio Ecclesia Dei in 1988 - was above all MOTIVATED BY THE DESIRE TO FOSTER THE HEALING OF THE SCHISM WITH THE MOVEMENT OF MONS. LEFEBVRE. With the ecclesial intention of restoring the unity of the Church, the Bishops were thus asked to accept with generosity the “just aspirations” of the faithful who requested the use of that Missal." www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/motu_proprio/documents/20210716-motu-proprio-traditionis-custodes.html 7. About the SSPX faculty to officiate in Catholic weddings (Letter from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith dated March 27, 2017). It states that with the diocese's permission, an SSPX priest may officiate in a Catholic wedding but only if there is no diocesan or religious priest available, and the documents must be forwarded to the diocesan curia. It should be remembered, too, that in the sacrament of matrimony, the ministers are the couple themselves. A priest is only there to witness for the Church and receive the couple's consent. Other than those limited faculties, the sacraments of the SSPX, although valid, are not recognized by the Church because, as Pope Benedict XVI writes, the Society has no canonical status and no legitimate ministry in the Church. 8. Many people, including bishops, who say SSPX is not in schism or has reconciled with the Church, should be able to produce a document similar to Pope John Paul II's letter welcoming the SSPX in Campos, Brazil (now the Union of St. John Mary Vianney) into the fold, otherwise they should not be believed. Here's the link to Pope JPII letter: www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=4141 Thanks. God bless you.

@@marietta1335 he's no different than Francis.

The ‘62 Missal was mandated in 1983 to keep the Sedes out. Since many diocesan-approved TLMs have been using the pre-‘55 Holy Week in recent years, I wouldn’t be surprised if the SSPX goes back to it.

@@CatholicTraditional would be nice. Would be nice to keep with Quo Primum

Amen! That’s comes up in tomorrow’s video.

@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM cool. Thx For. God bless you and yours 🙏📿🛐🐂

I’m not sure the Archbishop would have gone with the older missal. I think he very much cared about recognizing any legitimate changes to the missal, even if he would personally prefer the older one.

Massive problem is the 3 Society Bishops are not trad Rite conditionally Ordaining Novus Ordo clerics. Tragic!

@@E.C.2 I don't understand what you are trying to say...

@@kristinafinley2394 The 3 Sspx Bishops no longer conditionally Ordain novus ordo "Priests."

Actually, as an sspx attendee, I think it is incredibly important that Father keeps doing his work within the fssp. I think both camps need more of this kind of conversation and I’m not sure just switching camps is going to necessarily help resolve the impasse between the two. We’re in desperate need of more unity and need to see each other as teammates, not enemies. We simply cannot continue attacking each other, or advising our parishioners to avoid the other group. We’re both fighting tooth and nail to save souls, and if we can start to recognize the incredible work both are doing, we will start to admire and respect each other. God bless you Father and please pray for me.

The words of the NO Offertory were personally crafted by Pope Paul VI. He was Pope, not you.

God bless Fr M.R.

I am not well placed to organise that, but if anyone wanted to volunteer to take care of it, then perhaps we could make it work.