I Was Wrong: The Weeknd's TV Show Isn't Bad. It's Horrible.

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D'Angelo Wallace

D'Angelo Wallace

Күн бұрын

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I decided to watch episode 2 and episode 3 of The Idol, the new HBO and Max show from Euphoria creator Sam Levinson, starring Abel “The Weeknd” Tesfaye and Lily-Rose Depp. This was not a good decision!
0:00 - intro
2:40 - previously on the idol
4:17 - episode 2
17:06 - episode 3
30:55 - conclusion

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@DAngeloWallace
@DAngeloWallace 11 ай бұрын
oh i forgot to mention that the weeknd said this in an interview: "tedros is that superego that we as men wanna stay away from as much as possible, that's inside of us and we just gotta kill that"... like nah speak for yourself because that self-report is CRAZY 💀
@Dfnkey
@Dfnkey 11 ай бұрын
he should've just stayed with his music career
@melticdaze6584
@melticdaze6584 11 ай бұрын
Holy shit 💀does bro mean the id
@dontstealmycontentplease
@dontstealmycontentplease 11 ай бұрын
Balls
@cheddarpaws4439
@cheddarpaws4439 11 ай бұрын
yikes 😭
@malaksafa4074
@malaksafa4074 11 ай бұрын
2 minute gang!!!!!
@nekopeep
@nekopeep 11 ай бұрын
The fact that they glorified her trauma as "motivation to make her work harder" is insane.
@lucreziamorganti9115
@lucreziamorganti9115 11 ай бұрын
And of course to exploit her situation all in their interest!!
@LunarEleven
@LunarEleven 11 ай бұрын
The icing on the crazy cake was how Tedros basically says she should be grateful for being abused & then she thanks him for putting her through it all over again.
@nonvalid962
@nonvalid962 11 ай бұрын
Art oftentimes shows, without asigning the value 'good' to what it shows - which can be wrong but still interessting to explore. It seems to me, that you just don't get It.
@5050TM
@5050TM 11 ай бұрын
Reminds me of GOT and how being raped always makes women stronger. As if it's good for women to suffer in a round about way. It's weird.
@doe4003
@doe4003 11 ай бұрын
​@@nonvalid962this show is far too stupid to talk about abuse with any good nuance. I'm sorry but this shit is just awful. Other shows can do that but this?? It fails on every level. In basically every category.
@starsgalaxy3113
@starsgalaxy3113 11 ай бұрын
The way my jaw dropped when he told Jocelyn to go get the brush. This is not dark, controversial art, this is not satire, this is disgusting. I am sick and tired of men making disgusting, horrible shows and calling it “art that is supposed to make you think.” There is nothing here to comment on what women go through in the music industry, you are just making torture porn.
@lesbiangoddess290
@lesbiangoddess290 11 ай бұрын
They think we don't know to interpret disturbing and uncomfortable topics/situations. There is no reason why they have to be a) so graphic b) sexual and c) glamourising and minimising mental health struggles which jocelyn clearly has and T*** is not helping AT ALL
@lizzfrmhon
@lizzfrmhon 11 ай бұрын
Leave it to a guy director to think he can interpret mental health problems in women in the entertainment industry.
@tarag2705
@tarag2705 11 ай бұрын
If we could put gifs on KZfaq here is where the Meryl Streep standing ovation would go 👏🏼
@KingOfGaymes
@KingOfGaymes 11 ай бұрын
@@lesbiangoddess290I swear way too many male directors just can’t NOT fetishize women, like if they’re being abused, killed, assaulted, they have to add a sexual element to it. Like they can’t see women outside of being sexual.
@jmcmontanheiro
@jmcmontanheiro 11 ай бұрын
100% agree, using such graphic stuff, especially the deep trauma and super needless and recurring sexual scenes this way just to get views is clearly lazy writing. And the creators are still trying to disguise as super edgy art, but no one is buying it. Lazy and clearly made to satisfy some sick desires by Sam Levinson and The Weekend.
@serenityfreeman5906
@serenityfreeman5906 10 ай бұрын
I think that scene with Jocelyn crying and calling for her mom is what the show would have been, before the worst men ever got involved
@annikala
@annikala 10 ай бұрын
exactly
@tatewaller414
@tatewaller414 9 ай бұрын
To me it feels like fragments of the original were kept and then the mess that was the weekend and sam Levi son is just added in with no cohesion whatsoever to me it felt like two different stories being told
@zoeb3573
@zoeb3573 9 ай бұрын
@@tatewaller414 it feels like they kept the scenes they liked without understanding why those scenes were in the original script in the first place
@morganqorishchi8181
@morganqorishchi8181 11 ай бұрын
I've had someone ask me "why did he do that?" about my abuser s*xually assaulting me from when I was 4 to 10. It sent me into a mental health spiral so bad I had to be hospitalized. NEVER ask someone that.
@neontd
@neontd 10 ай бұрын
That's actually so horrible. I hope you're healing well ❤
@andrewstephens5885
@andrewstephens5885 10 ай бұрын
I hope you’re doing well angel. Stay strong, the road is rough but worth traveling, and you don’t have to do it alone. I hope you’ve found good support systems, you deserve peace and happiness.
@eskevizercetcevicetzercezium
@eskevizercetcevicetzercezium 10 ай бұрын
fOUR?! that abuser deserves a life sentence. hope ur currently well omg.
@smilesxtears
@smilesxtears 10 ай бұрын
Because that is who he is. It is unfortunate what happened to you.
@lukeyaseen5755
@lukeyaseen5755 10 ай бұрын
He did it because he’s a horrible person. It had nothing to do with you. None of it was your fault. I promise
@brett8259
@brett8259 11 ай бұрын
Fun fact. You can make a show or movie meant to make the viewer uncomfortable and disgusted without making it an unbearable watch.
@MissJeriB
@MissJeriB 11 ай бұрын
Whats your top recommendation?
@annamaria__
@annamaria__ 11 ай бұрын
​@@MissJeriB i think Reqiuem for a dream fits the criteria
@LovefortheMoon00
@LovefortheMoon00 11 ай бұрын
​@@MissJeriB I would recommend Perfect Blue. It is a better version of this shitshow.
@tomato.sandwich
@tomato.sandwich 11 ай бұрын
@@LovefortheMoon00fantastic flick
@SynergistN7
@SynergistN7 11 ай бұрын
​@@MissJeriBseason 1 of Jessica Jones
@kodokuna.
@kodokuna. 11 ай бұрын
This show just confirmed that Euphoria was successful DESPITE Sam Levinson, not because of him
@cherrybomb3098
@cherrybomb3098 11 ай бұрын
lmfao
@kuku_rydza
@kuku_rydza 11 ай бұрын
yup, that's what I was thinking as well
@rachel5399
@rachel5399 11 ай бұрын
I'm really glad they wasted literal millions on him, especially after the criticism of season 2 being bland, boring, and having dumb side plots. Zendaya was and still is, the backbone. She brought people into watch, and she is the only reason they stay. I hope HBO realizes how fucking stupid they were at letting this production get trashed, and giving horrible working conditions and expectations to its cast and crew, ultimately allowing for a shit story with terrible acting to grace our screens with their logo plastered on it.
@kodokuna.
@kodokuna. 11 ай бұрын
@@rachel5399 me personally, Euphoria is my favorite show, and I like never get bored and I think season two is better than season 1. But that’s ME. The criticism on season 2 is so valid that I can’t begin to defend it. The only reason it stayed relevant was because of the actors and actresses putting in the WORK to make the show as good as it could be. Also, I feel like it just has a appeal to teens who can heavily relate to one or many of the characters and that itself puts it ahead. Season 3 doesn’t look too good though, just from Sam Levinson’s revealed choices thus far. I mean, he fired Barbie Fierra (Kat) just for having different opinions on how her character should be developed. If that doesn’t say shit idk what does.
@euneiros
@euneiros 11 ай бұрын
​@@rachel5399Zendaya was definitely the reason people tuned in to begin with but i think the rest of the cast is also well loved. Personally i love jules and am watching for Hunter Schaefer and i now Sydney and Alexa demie are well loved!! Point is, most of the actors are great but the plot, the uneccesary nudity and sexualization of teens and romanticising abusive relationships is why the show sucks and all those fall on Sam Levinsons. Sad to think how great Euphoria and even The idol would be if not for Sam. ://
@KitKat-mp8tl
@KitKat-mp8tl 11 ай бұрын
it's unfortunate how Jocelyn's character is coherent (she hasn't known true love, only abuse and exploitation, so of course she seeks it out when she has lost it) and how unfortunately understandable her decisions are in her situation, yet this is all completely crushed by this soulless exploitative borderline tortune porn of a show
@Witchy_Hoo
@Witchy_Hoo 11 ай бұрын
Oh god, yeah. It feels like the few good scenes from this show are remnants of Amy Seimetz’s original version, held back by the current version of the show made by The Weeknd and Sam Levinson that just used this as an outlet for their fetishes. Made the scene with Jocelyn’s breakdown even more crushing…
@emptyhead242
@emptyhead242 11 ай бұрын
Also lots of abuse victim myths about wanting or seeking out abusive situations. She's going in enthusiastically to a bad experience against her support system - which isn't the reality
@KitKat-mp8tl
@KitKat-mp8tl 10 ай бұрын
@@Witchy_Hoo exactly, i feel like if she had been the one directing till the end this could have been an actual interesting look in the effects being a public figure has on this cycle of abuse one can be stuck in, aka an experience that unfortunately happens to people all over the world whether famous or not we could’ve seen how hollywood exploits this for their gain, how you are not allowed to heal properly because you have to move on to the next big thing, how people will seek you out during this vulnerable time to capitalise on it, etc. and instead we have this
@KitKat-mp8tl
@KitKat-mp8tl 10 ай бұрын
@@emptyhead242 they’re mixing this current hollywood obsession with everyone knowing psychology so well and being so deconstrued and aware of themselves with the sad reality that you seek what you know because feeling bad is what’s comfortable to you, so she fully acknowledges that she ‘likes his rapey vibe’ etc. even though that only happens in rare scenarios and most people always end up in abusive relationships because to them that is just what a normal relationship is period
@seretoninman
@seretoninman 10 ай бұрын
@@KitKat-mp8tlI agree with all of your points except the assumption that Amy Seimetz version would be better. I'm aware that Sam Levinsion is a voyeuristic creep but their has been little actual verified reporting about the orignal version of the show led by the female creator. It is inconclusive if that version would've been better or worse.
@ihavenoclueeither
@ihavenoclueeither 11 ай бұрын
You can really feel the potential of a good story when she explains how her mother beat her. It recontextualizes the (already good) scene of her asking for her mother because now we know she wasn’t begging for her mom to help support her, she was asking for her mom to punish her for a bad performance. It’s not spelled out for you (probably because this fucked up version of the story doesn’t realize how horrible this is) so the audience member has to connect the dots leading you to a upsetting revelation. Of course then because this is The Idol it’s turned into a good thing that her mother beat her and made into some weird fantasy. I feel like that’s the biggest plotpoint where you feel the original narrative being warped to fit this weird degenerate male fantasy.
@nox7919
@nox7919 11 ай бұрын
Genuinely one of the worst things is that you can see little glimmers of a good idea/story in here but they're ignored and just steamrolled to cater to the creator's gross fantasy. Almost any redeeming quality is overshadowed by the horrendous torture porn. The scene of Joslyn crying for her mom and then that later context has a lot of like threads that would make for a compelling narrative but nooooooo have this horrific sex scene instead
@ihavenoclueeither
@ihavenoclueeither 11 ай бұрын
@@nox7919 yeah, these are the kinds of shows that frustrate me the most. Like bad shows are just bad but bad shows where you can see the bits of potential for a genuinely good story just make me sad that so many creators aren’t allowed to tell the stories they want because of assholes who think they know better…
@pixiestxNyomouf
@pixiestxNyomouf 10 ай бұрын
The scene of her and Jaime only for her to put ice between her legs.....it's like shards of glass in dirt
@theshire9173
@theshire9173 10 ай бұрын
I'd recommend reading Jeanette McCurdy's memoir "I'm Glad my Mom Died" if you want a good compelling story of a mother abusing her daughter in showbusiness and the daughter growing after her mother's death
@andrewstephens5885
@andrewstephens5885 10 ай бұрын
And correct me if I’m wrong but they even reveal her abuse story was a lie…WHAAAAAT
@kingworm7168
@kingworm7168 11 ай бұрын
It’s almost meta how a show about female exploitation by creepy men in Hollywood became a reality show about female exploitation by creepy men in Hollywood
@mst3kharris
@mst3kharris 11 ай бұрын
It’s almost darkly amusing that the men objected to being made to look like predators and then turned around and wrote a show that makes them look even more like predators.
@abigailrowe5024
@abigailrowe5024 11 ай бұрын
This show is incredible in how terrible it is. It attempts to comment on the exploitation of women in Hollywood, by exploiting women... Incredible.
@randomnerd3402
@randomnerd3402 11 ай бұрын
​@@abigailrowe5024Kinda like how Cuties was about child exploitation while being even worse than child exploitation
@moneyboy503
@moneyboy503 11 ай бұрын
@@randomnerd3402 cause there was ACTUAL child exploitation in it lol. Always agreed with Charlie. the simple change of literally just not using real kids would have changed so much
@nitebreak
@nitebreak 11 ай бұрын
@@randomnerd3402it’s awful but i wouldn’t say even worse knowing how child exploitation is??
@thtzsbun
@thtzsbun 11 ай бұрын
seeing lily-rose depp act her ass off compared to abel barely acting throws me off every time without fail
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 11 ай бұрын
It makes me hopeful for when she gets actually good roles. This won't define her career, it'll just be a rough patch when we look back, like her dad with his earlier projects
@allysoncurtis4732
@allysoncurtis4732 11 ай бұрын
@@nailinthefashion Hopefully under a competent director like Robert Eggers she can shine in Nosferatu
@PM-ik5vu
@PM-ik5vu 11 ай бұрын
She's not a good actor She seems good incomparison to Abel who really can't act. Lily has limited range,
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 11 ай бұрын
@@PM-ik5vu let her evolve in the same way you should learn not to be so overly negative
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 11 ай бұрын
@@allysoncurtis4732 I'm so curious. Damsels can be so bland so easily. As the other person mentioned, range would be important
@ook4698
@ook4698 11 ай бұрын
omg i didnt realize hearing "why didnt you fight back" was a trigger for me until tedros said it. thats 80% of the time the response i get when i talk abt my trauma 😭
@RaindropsOnLichen
@RaindropsOnLichen 11 ай бұрын
💜
@umcharley
@umcharley 11 ай бұрын
The way I actually started sobbing when he said that. If somebody said that to me I'd actually flip the fuck out.
@ook4698
@ook4698 11 ай бұрын
@@umcharley its mostly just astonishing when ppl say it to me i just go :0 like how do u even think of saying that and acting like thats normal 😭😭
@umcharley
@umcharley 11 ай бұрын
@@ook4698 Right like??? (TW: abuse I’m sorry for bringing this up) “Why didn’t you just tell you mom to stop dragging you around the house by your hair?? You could’ve said no.” Like excuse me????😭 I was 7 and you expect me to fight back against a 40 year old woman?????? It’s such an absurd thing to say to someone.
@ook4698
@ook4698 11 ай бұрын
@@umcharley exactly 😭😭
@francinefu2680
@francinefu2680 11 ай бұрын
No TV show does "dysfunctional but compelling female lead" better than Fleabag. Shows you how it's done properly, and with A++ humour.
@malegazeofficial
@malegazeofficial 11 ай бұрын
🤝
@dainsleifmain
@dainsleifmain 11 ай бұрын
fleabag is fucking amazing! I watched it 2 times and this comment is making me wanna rewatch it lol
@johnrivers3813
@johnrivers3813 10 ай бұрын
👏👏👏 even the overtly sexual parts are to the T honest and accurate. God damn... Fleabag is such a good show
@Noise_floorxx
@Noise_floorxx 10 ай бұрын
I couldn't get into it.
@duchuynhvuong1733
@duchuynhvuong1733 10 ай бұрын
ok
@CeCeBookworm07
@CeCeBookworm07 11 ай бұрын
The fact that they announced that it’s being cut from six episodes to five the same day this came out is perfection.
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 11 ай бұрын
"This shit expensive.... YEET"
@MelaineT
@MelaineT 11 ай бұрын
I was so confused when I seen it I was like “thought there was 6…” like if they could just cut it like that makes it clear they could have cut the s3x scenes down by a lot and saved time
@theuncannydag
@theuncannydag 11 ай бұрын
Great googly moogly
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 11 ай бұрын
@@theuncannydag Maggie and the ferocious beast is 100% a better show, I agree
@inotanzen
@inotanzen 11 ай бұрын
Something that totally happens to “best show of the summer” right? 😂
@Buzzabeel
@Buzzabeel 11 ай бұрын
It’s extremely gross that Idol basically took Jeanette McCurdy’s entire situation with her mom (from the “motivation” to her getting cancer) and then thought it was okay to give to Jocelyn for extra drama.
@lovelya4641
@lovelya4641 11 ай бұрын
oh wait you're right
@CARATMom
@CARATMom 11 ай бұрын
I literally was yelling this the other day!!
@vvaveave
@vvaveave 11 ай бұрын
honestly any & all nods to actual stars that sorta had a similar experience (like miley cyrus nod in one of the eps) caused such a viscreal reaction in me like fine have your little rape fantasies to yourself but dont you dare drag real people's trauma into ur 50 shades of gray knockoff
@AriaLouisa
@AriaLouisa 11 ай бұрын
Exactly this. It’s also clear The Weeknd based a lot on Selena. It’s actually sick
@hannahb2306
@hannahb2306 11 ай бұрын
@@vvaveaveright! It felt so awful to me because reading her book, it’s pretty fucking clear how tormented Jeanette McCurdy was/is by the way she was treated, and they’re just like “yes let’s use her very raw and very real pain to make a shitty TV show”
@Naptural85
@Naptural85 11 ай бұрын
Watching D’Angelo CRINGE while editing had me LITERALLY laugh out loud omg! 😂😂😭😭😭 I had to play it twice bc he was all of us in that moment
@sarahsilvestro3350
@sarahsilvestro3350 11 ай бұрын
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@johnrivers3813
@johnrivers3813 10 ай бұрын
He probably had to re watch it at least five times to edit it down. Woof!
@tamthuong4048
@tamthuong4048 10 ай бұрын
ok
@prithvirajsrinivasan1077
@prithvirajsrinivasan1077 10 ай бұрын
@@johnrivers3813 15:02 That right there is hard work
@KaeMaiden
@KaeMaiden 10 ай бұрын
​@@johnrivers3813That's just torture. No wonder he looks like he's in physical pain. Nobody deserves that.
@Ukiyo110
@Ukiyo110 10 ай бұрын
Perfect blue is a much better representation of an idol struggling, dealing with the pressure of being famous. Having identity crisis. It’s also a really good thriller with good plots
@felmargego2534
@felmargego2534 10 ай бұрын
this!!
@Musicanimedork01
@Musicanimedork01 10 ай бұрын
Not to mention that its visually STUNNING
@princeapoopoo5787
@princeapoopoo5787 10 ай бұрын
Based
@61subsandnovideos
@61subsandnovideos 10 ай бұрын
and literally the only cartoon that has actually scared me
@d.o.m.i.
@d.o.m.i. 10 ай бұрын
perfect blue also has scenes of s**** abuse that are treated as horrifying and appalling, this show just makes them look "sexy". gross
@cranburrey
@cranburrey 11 ай бұрын
The fact that Lily Rose Depp has to stay away from The Weekend every time he goes into his “Tedro mode” on set really says a lot about him💀
@bookwrmxoxo5105
@bookwrmxoxo5105 11 ай бұрын
Dummies use “method acting” to justify stupid cringe behavior. Like, the weekday isn’t even an actor to be using such techniques.
@jerseyfanel
@jerseyfanel 11 ай бұрын
"Method acting" is just an excuse to be shitty
@artheaux666
@artheaux666 11 ай бұрын
Bro, that’s so cringe, he’s just taking this way too seriously. but also not serious enough to get an acting coach?
@leeannpelletier4117
@leeannpelletier4117 11 ай бұрын
Where did you see this! Can u include a link that is horrendous
@shareetz3154
@shareetz3154 11 ай бұрын
it’s giving jared leto terrorizing his costars on the set of “suicide squad” 🫣🫣🫣
@alittlefruitfairy
@alittlefruitfairy 11 ай бұрын
I wish a room full of men stopped trying to write a woman’s story. Like this is supposed to be a story of a vulnerable woman falling victim to a man’s abuse, and I just don’t understand how the weekend and the euphoria guy thought they were the right people to tell that story
@justhearmeout3959
@justhearmeout3959 11 ай бұрын
They used a "bad boy" trope to write an abusive character. No one with a support system like Jocelyn would fall for a man like Tedrose, it just doesn't work that way. They gain their power over victims by being nice in the beginning, but he was never nice. It's so bizarre, especially as a trauma survivor.
@hotsexyangel
@hotsexyangel 11 ай бұрын
Exactly
@j.bandzzz34
@j.bandzzz34 11 ай бұрын
maybe because he has first hand experience being fucking disgusting
@yoyohayli
@yoyohayli 11 ай бұрын
Especially after the ACTRESSES IN EUPHORIA felt objectified and not heard when they voiced their concerns of always being fucking naked on the show
@vsm6847
@vsm6847 11 ай бұрын
Male audacity, as usual. That’s all. Just basic af male audacity.
@Sailormercury_56
@Sailormercury_56 11 ай бұрын
If this show doesn’t end with her getting rid of all these people and moving on with her life in a positive nature then I truly have no idea what they were thinking making this show
@simsloverchick9270
@simsloverchick9270 10 ай бұрын
I have some bad news
@quasarstarpower2858
@quasarstarpower2858 10 ай бұрын
​@@simsloverchick9270came here to comment the exact same thing.
@amberlisa7365
@amberlisa7365 10 ай бұрын
It’s a show about the pop Star industry…why would you think there’s a happy ending to be had? Brittney Spears says what? Did you happen to notice what happened to her? They clearly draw the parallels in the first episode.
@_taetae
@_taetae 10 ай бұрын
the show’s so meaningless, it sure had potential to be something more but nope
@80s_graffiti
@80s_graffiti 10 ай бұрын
Well LMAO
@fosternova4434
@fosternova4434 10 ай бұрын
God, the abuse scene is genuinely horrifying. My dad did the same shit to me if I struggled to read correctly, did my math wrong, or asked stupid questions. If I got in trouble at school and had a slip sent home, I would beg my mom not to show my dad because I knew what would happen. He beat me to "motivate" me and took all the credit when someone said I was smart or well-behaved. That entire scene left me in tears because all I could see was my experiences. The fact that they put this in the show proves it's nothing more than torture porn and shock value. It's fucking vile
@rachelk.6313
@rachelk.6313 11 ай бұрын
The fact that HBO said “nah, we don’t need that 6th episode” 😂😂
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 11 ай бұрын
Nobody do baby.... like shut up and produce another season of Looking like wtf..
@riana8829
@riana8829 11 ай бұрын
wait fr? I watched till ep 4, it’s actually a dumpster fire level rn. How are they going to salvage it in one episode????
@liv_hann
@liv_hann 11 ай бұрын
wait did they scrap an extra one or something? i’m not caught up
@daranetwork4127
@daranetwork4127 11 ай бұрын
​@@liv_hann the season was originally having 6 episodes, but they decided to merge the 5th and 6th, cutting out some scenes
@RavensEye10
@RavensEye10 11 ай бұрын
@@daranetwork4127is this new? If so when? I’m not on Twitter or anything lol
@miab.5648
@miab.5648 11 ай бұрын
As a euphoria viewer, bringing up an interesting storyline and then literally NEVER bringing it up ever again is a classic Sam Levinson move
@salvobunny
@salvobunny 11 ай бұрын
wait i can’t remember, which storyline from euphoria are you talking about? (if you are talking about euphoria)
@arianagarcia732
@arianagarcia732 11 ай бұрын
@@salvobunny in s1 they show that Kat is being blackmailed during her online camming and they never adress the storyline after that, they just show her getitng blackmailed and next season she suddenly stops doing cam work, also in s1 McKay is SA by a group of men and they literally only use this plot to justify him in turn SA'ing Cassie, it never gets addressed (Mckay or Cassies assault) and they never show his character. In s2 Rue still owes her dealer money, theres no reprecussions in this season or implication that anyone watching/monitoring her after losing a shit ton of money she just gets to have a hopeful monologue at the end. Theres def more but i can't remember them all rn but Levinson literally writes something thrilling then never addresses it or allows the characters to be okay with being hurt even if it doesnt make sense to the plot
@salvobunny
@salvobunny 11 ай бұрын
@@arianagarcia732 holy shit that’s right! i forgot about all of that, thank u!
@minininja8912
@minininja8912 11 ай бұрын
@@arianagarcia732brooo i legit forgot about those like they fully gave up on developing kat as a character
@WarTitan888
@WarTitan888 11 ай бұрын
@@arianagarcia732I almost forgot about the whole McCay situation lol
@kazoo22
@kazoo22 11 ай бұрын
The part where Jocelyn was crying out for her mom was actually good, it made me REALLY emotional when I watched it which is a god damn shame considering the fact that the rest of the show. Is the rest of the show.
@tatewaller414
@tatewaller414 9 ай бұрын
I believe deep down in my soul that that scene was from the Idol before Sam Levinson was involved
@xrrgr
@xrrgr 3 ай бұрын
@@tatewaller414 absolutely
@sooryaraghuraman6235
@sooryaraghuraman6235 10 ай бұрын
Bojack Horseman. Probably the most realistic depiction of mental health in a television show.
@breetune
@breetune 10 ай бұрын
was literally just ab to comment this
@jomol4598
@jomol4598 10 ай бұрын
bojack is one of my favorites
@binxwaxcap7832
@binxwaxcap7832 9 ай бұрын
Bojack is one of my favorite "sad" shows and its oddly a comfort to watch when I'm struggling
@afunnymans
@afunnymans 6 ай бұрын
The “Don’t Stop Dancing” song alone is much a deeper look into the exploitative nature within the entertainment industry than the entirety of The Idol, and it involves dancing popsicles and a cartoon horseman promoting laxatives.
@oracleofdelphiii
@oracleofdelphiii 11 ай бұрын
The scenes with Lily calling for her mom, talking about her past, or pushing herself way past her limits, and Destiny + Chaim protecting her shows me what this series could have been if the crusty ass Weekday and Samuel didn't completely squash it with their grubby hands
@zoeplsno
@zoeplsno 11 ай бұрын
😭not weekday and samuel
@doomnoises
@doomnoises 11 ай бұрын
Weekday is his name now
@angeloalcantar5401
@angeloalcantar5401 11 ай бұрын
She’s an okay actor, I can’t take her seriously as a main lead with her current skills lol same with Jennie’s acting. Just bad acting all around for such a high profile budget
@bunkertons
@bunkertons 11 ай бұрын
Omg! 😂 Best take ever!
@bunkertons
@bunkertons 11 ай бұрын
I think that Samuel and the Weekday just shoehorned a bunch of sex scenes and bs into this series and called it a day. All of the good stuff in this abomination of a show feels like it was written by someone better.
@user-fc4wy6vf8f
@user-fc4wy6vf8f 11 ай бұрын
Hearing the "it was too feminist" allegations and seeing some of the good scenes and the good acting in this show tells me this could have been an absolute masterpiece
@zeddy2284
@zeddy2284 11 ай бұрын
legitt
@vernon137
@vernon137 11 ай бұрын
not with the week-end acting in it
@purgxzur1
@purgxzur1 11 ай бұрын
@@vernon137this is such a massive reason
@snowpoler
@snowpoler 11 ай бұрын
Now I'm upset 'cause we can't live in the alternate timeline in which we actually have that instead of this horseshit.
@Handles_be_dumb
@Handles_be_dumb 11 ай бұрын
'lets explore female exploitation in Hollywood - but we can't focus on the women too much.' Small brains over there in Hollywood.
@gingerkatherina
@gingerkatherina 11 ай бұрын
"show some backbone. You already showed anything else in this show" had me in tears 😂👍
@Neon-lt5jl
@Neon-lt5jl 11 ай бұрын
Yeah.. slut shaming.. hilarious!!
@angelic.process
@angelic.process 11 ай бұрын
@@Neon-lt5jl i don't think it came across that way
@Neon-lt5jl
@Neon-lt5jl 11 ай бұрын
@@angelic.process Didn't ask
@alanajones3275
@alanajones3275 11 ай бұрын
​@@Neon-lt5jlWe didnt ask for your opinion and yet you're here taking up space anyway. Cope.
@Neon-lt5jl
@Neon-lt5jl 11 ай бұрын
@@alanajones3275 You mad hun? You sound mad. 😬
@AMFibers
@AMFibers 11 ай бұрын
As someone who was abused as a child and therefore motivated solely by fear, I cannot fathom putting that scene out into the world. Thank goodness I have a partner who encourages me to get mental health care to learn other forms of motivation, as opposed to just recreating trauma. Gross.
@hylianexpected1171
@hylianexpected1171 9 ай бұрын
The thing about being "therefore solely motivated by fear" struck a chord with me, I'll be thinking about that for a bit.
@richierichrichardson1463
@richierichrichardson1463 11 ай бұрын
The whole scene when she calls out to her mom is genuinely so heart-rending and made me cry. It sucks that there's a good show buried beneath all this fetishization of abuse and misogyny 😞
@Scriptkitty-sd8dp
@Scriptkitty-sd8dp 11 ай бұрын
I feel this way about so many shows and movies these days. There is so much potential there, and you keep watching hoping it's eventually going to be good, and it never is. I usually get to the end and ask, what did I just watch? I don't think that's the question they want people asking when they say they want to make you think.
@robineaken4524
@robineaken4524 11 ай бұрын
I mean, didn’t the show get major rewrites/ reshoots? I think we saw a glimpse into what the show used to be
@girl24689
@girl24689 11 ай бұрын
@@robineaken4524Yes, the script was rewritten because of too much focus on the “female perspective” according to Abel. There was a woman writing and directing the script beforehand but they gave her no time to make a fully realized story before handing it over to Sadist Sam
@danang5
@danang5 11 ай бұрын
@@girl24689 didnt the female director got booted out of the show because of the "too much female perspective"?
@ruliak
@ruliak 11 ай бұрын
@@girl24689 but jocelyn's perspective is the best part! Smh
@lenamariejackson
@lenamariejackson 11 ай бұрын
the frustrating part about this show is that you can see the original vision bleeding through. the parts that are focused on Jocelyn are really good, and her storyline is very interesting. it’s when Tedros is on screen that you can see where Sam Levinson made his alterations.
@avavavaa
@avavavaa 11 ай бұрын
A show with great potential ruined by sam levinson’s perversion.
@lenamariejackson
@lenamariejackson 11 ай бұрын
@@avavavaa & more to come, i fear
@gokcenakdag8189
@gokcenakdag8189 11 ай бұрын
Nah Joce is also a terrible person.. esp in ep 4 you will see. Clearly tedros is terrible and she can see that, she doesnt care about leia(her supposed best friend ) at all
@benjamindelgado3488
@benjamindelgado3488 11 ай бұрын
You know that it was written by Abel and Sam Levinson tho,
@lenamariejackson
@lenamariejackson 11 ай бұрын
@@gokcenakdag8189 hm, i don’t remember saying Jocelyn was a good person? i actually think she’s interesting because she’s not. she was clearly originally written as a very complex character and i really wanted them to expand on that, but with Sam Levinson’s rewrite of Tedros, i don’t think we’ll ever see much more of Jocelyn’s character. you’ve misunderstood my comment, is what i’m trying to say. i don’t think any of them are good people but i can get behind a problematic character if they are interesting, the issue is that Tedros isn’t, he’s just the former.
@LauraK483
@LauraK483 10 ай бұрын
As a Canadian, the phrase "more red flags than the Canadian gift shop" might be my new favourite line in any of your videos (which is hard to choose in general because of the quality of all your videos).
@trucevideos
@trucevideos 10 ай бұрын
the clip of jocelyn calling out for her mom actually broke my heart... oh what this show could have been
@starlenbrookly1050
@starlenbrookly1050 11 ай бұрын
its crazy to try to make a show about female exploitation, but then say that the show was going "too much into a female perspective" when a woman was directing it. honestly that complete lack of self awareness sums up the whole show. how are yall not embarrassed 💀
@supermaryg
@supermaryg 11 ай бұрын
"Let's make a show exposing how terrible the industry treats young women. Like labeling basically teenagers as "idols", and then turning them into sexdolls that have no agency and treated less than huma---" Levinson and Weeknd: "YES! Let's make a show about idols that are sexdolls, GREAT IDEA! Wait why is there so much girly stuff in here? No one wants that... Also, not enough topless scenes."
@malachorfives
@malachorfives 11 ай бұрын
just here to tell you i love your icon
@lesbiangoddess290
@lesbiangoddess290 11 ай бұрын
​@@supermarygso on the money. Its GROSS
@KaityT97
@KaityT97 11 ай бұрын
Literally my first thought when watching D'Angelo's last vid. Like that's a level of irony you'd see in an episode of The Office
@Dont_Read_My_Picture
@Dont_Read_My_Picture 11 ай бұрын
Don't read my name!...
@KowaiZuzu
@KowaiZuzu 11 ай бұрын
I had an art teacher who would say something along the lines of "I don't care if it's deliberate, it LOOKS like a mistake. If it's a mistake but it looks deliberate, then it's art. But if it looks like a mistake, then it's a mistake." I think that describes this show pretty well.
@soloheroina
@soloheroina 11 ай бұрын
took the words right out of my mouth
@imhotepnixon
@imhotepnixon 11 ай бұрын
@@soloheroinahelllo art teacher
@xhappyponyxwasmyoldname1395
@xhappyponyxwasmyoldname1395 11 ай бұрын
Gonna have to disagree with your art teacher on that one tbh
@_JayRamsey_
@_JayRamsey_ 11 ай бұрын
"If you play the wrong note once, it's a mistake, if you play it twice it's Jazz" Or something like that.
@Dont_Read_My_Picture
@Dont_Read_My_Picture 11 ай бұрын
Don't read my name!...
@gukgukgukgukguk
@gukgukgukgukguk 11 ай бұрын
I didn’t watch Euphoria because I heard that the characters are in high school and there would be a lot of explicit scenes in the show. I didn’t feel comfortable watching minors doing it. But I’ve heard more people criticise the bedroom scenes for this show than Euphoria, which is pretty weird to me. I didn’t and will not watch The Idol either but I do enjoy watching videos criticising the show. 😂
@adoringfan6995
@adoringfan6995 10 ай бұрын
I wasn't even surprised by the direction this show took Knowing Sam Levinson was involved.
@mylettucehead
@mylettucehead 10 ай бұрын
Idk why but when euphoria came out it was THE show, I feel like now the idol is out, it bought more awareness to Sam levinson and the problems with euphoria, and now people are more critical of both
@gregory7567
@gregory7567 9 ай бұрын
That is the whole reason why I didn't want to watch Euphoria too I found it creepy
@mymy6018
@mymy6018 11 ай бұрын
I think this show has the exact same issue as the Netflix show, Cuties. To tackle/address a serious issue like the sexualization of children or the dark side of Hollywood (at this point, I've no clue what The Idol's message is anymore), you have to have good writing and a talented director to guide the narrative. Nothing against actors, but the actors in this show are amazing; we've seen (most of) them act wonderfully before in other properties. But they lack the source material here. And whatever message they were trying to convey originally, is being muddied under bad direction. Like you said D'Angelo, that scene with Jocelyn struggling to perform and crying for her mom was very powerful (I honestly think that's the only scene they kept from the previous female director)! If that same energy would have been felt throughout the entire show, it'd be a great short series to binge; but that's not what we got. To me, this show feels like it's glorifying more than critiquing the issues. Hoping they can somehow turn this around in the last 3 episodes - but my expectations are low. Anyway, I don't know if you're an anime fan, but I recommend Spy x Family! It's an adorable show!
@pixiestxNyomouf
@pixiestxNyomouf 10 ай бұрын
I feel like the WGA strike has something to do with this. Not an excuse cause Sam sucks from a source material point, but lord they didn't have *nobody* to save this.......then again, that person was a woman so 🤷🏿‍♀️ 😅
@LowkeyLuckyLucid
@LowkeyLuckyLucid 10 ай бұрын
Oshi No Ko did a better job in tackling the issues of the entertainment industry than this show.
@cupofcait
@cupofcait 11 ай бұрын
Don't let the terrible dialogue or acting distract you from the fact that those butterfly hairclips on D'Angelo are *iconic*
@estherflecksing6305
@estherflecksing6305 11 ай бұрын
The butterfly clips were distracting me the whole video
@h0t_pock3t
@h0t_pock3t 11 ай бұрын
IKR THEY ARE STUNNING
@mcwjes
@mcwjes 11 ай бұрын
So beautiful 😍
@brunalino
@brunalino 11 ай бұрын
i just wished he would have put these locks by the side of his head so it would open up his face! but they are amazing anyway!
@alim.9801
@alim.9801 10 ай бұрын
They look sparkly shiny and I love them
@TheEmuofEnnui
@TheEmuofEnnui 11 ай бұрын
If you haven't watched 'Arcane', it is all the things this show isn't 😂 The characters are likeable, deeply flawed and complex. Even the villain is sympathetic. There's a lot of nuance to the plot which is strong throughout the show and it's visually stunning. Don't let the tie to League of Legends scare you, it's a masterpiece
@mariannestrgzr9374
@mariannestrgzr9374 10 ай бұрын
Agreed 100%. Rewatched it recently and god damn it's rare to see female characters with so much depth and originality
@ssunki_3478
@ssunki_3478 10 ай бұрын
God I love Arcane so much, I want a season 2 alr so so so so bad
@ILikedGooglePlus
@ILikedGooglePlus 10 ай бұрын
Arcane is so good
@princeapoopoo5787
@princeapoopoo5787 10 ай бұрын
I'm glad to see Arcane get attention like this. I've been a fan of the art direction of League for years, so it's nice to see people seeing that side of the game.
@icya1798
@icya1798 6 ай бұрын
I still can't believe league of legends put out something better than anything Disney has in like 6 years
@juliogomez2534
@juliogomez2534 11 ай бұрын
After punishing myself and actually watching the series I'm now convinced that after the first director left the project they went and changed the plot of the story entirely, there are too many scenes and plot points that seem to indicate that the story focus laid somewhere else to where the series seems to be at.
@WobblesandBean
@WobblesandBean 11 ай бұрын
The ending had me SEETHING. As an abuse victim, I will never forgive anyone involved with this project. Not Lily, not the writers, and ESPECIALLY not The Weekend.
@nzarzecki
@nzarzecki 11 ай бұрын
You'd think that after the Johnny Depp-Amber Heard case and her proximity to them, she'd make a better choice than to join a project with such a DEMENTED take on abuse.
@Dont_Read_My_Picture
@Dont_Read_My_Picture 11 ай бұрын
Don't read my name!...
@Handles_be_dumb
@Handles_be_dumb 11 ай бұрын
​@@nzarzeckiIn her defense, the original writer was fired for actually giving a female perspective. When she signed on, chances are it was a little more progressive.
@fionagallagherapologist5968
@fionagallagherapologist5968 11 ай бұрын
it genuinely made me nauseous :/
@WobblesandBean
@WobblesandBean 11 ай бұрын
@@Handles_be_dumb I mean, you're not wrong, but she could have backed out. It's not like she doesn't have clout behind her. Even with a contract, I feel like she had the power to walk away.
@Oobs212
@Oobs212 11 ай бұрын
Abel (the person) is so omnipresent in the show. He's a co writer, supposedly got his screen time expanded, his music is the soundtrack, they're filmin in his house... All while monopolizing the run time and delivering an embarrassing performance. Like, I've truly had enough of this dude.
@lightyears-xo8qb
@lightyears-xo8qb 11 ай бұрын
it reminded me of what drew gooden said in a lily sign video about the youtube high, basically a youtube getting high on all the attention and praise and thinks "I can do everything" without realizing that you are never as good the best comment and never as bad as the negative comment, so in that high they start to think that they can never fuck up and then fucks up maybe the Weeknd got that point, an Artist high, because he does do good music, I dunno why no one around him like stopped this madness before it hits
@nahaji
@nahaji 11 ай бұрын
The fact he is so omnipresent feels so narcissistic as if he wants to be everywhere people can see because he thinks he is good at everything
@caitlynlandry822
@caitlynlandry822 11 ай бұрын
I had a mostly positive-to-neutral opinion of The Weeknd before this, and now I actively dislike him so…good job?
@cranburrey
@cranburrey 11 ай бұрын
@@nahaji Did you see that video of him winking and pointing at the camera? He thought he looked hot 😭😭
@squidthing
@squidthing 11 ай бұрын
Its honestly hilarious thinking back to how he was seen as mysterious and quiet when he first started putting out music but has turned into a human fart who lingers in the room too long
@spacegay6030
@spacegay6030 10 ай бұрын
How did I know, the moment Jocelyn started getting interrogated about her mother abusing her with a hairbrush, it was going to end with Tedros wanting to reimplement the use of the hairbrush...in the bedroom. Like, not only is it torture porn, but it's predictable too.
@CynicalLight
@CynicalLight 10 ай бұрын
I'm just happy to know the likelihood of Robert Plant and his family seeing this episode is rarer than a shark attack. The writers are evil for mocking a real man's loss just for tv content that isn't even profound or deep.
@jayshmay
@jayshmay 11 ай бұрын
I so badly want a show that shows the truth of hypersexuality- that it is a trauma response. It isn’t sexy, it is so painful. It is a form of self harm. They could have shown her side so much better- how mentally exhausting it is. I know how it feels deeply and it could make for a very real snapshot into what it’s like. But instead they made it so it was hot for her to act that way. When in reality, she would be full of doubt and pain over what she’s doing. Idk I’m rambling now but it just sucks to see this happen again.
@abigailw4599
@abigailw4599 11 ай бұрын
Yes!!! Been waiting for this for almost 10 years, been let down by euphoria s2 w Cassie's (of course) & Fiona in shameless' arcs. It'd also allow for us to understand Tedros' ability to weasel into her life since they didn't pull off the cult leader charisma. It can feel impossible to say no when you're struggling with that, you're sexually abusing & manipulating yourself it's like you go on autopilot
@yuraeh1254
@yuraeh1254 11 ай бұрын
theres a ukrainian show that showcases hypersexuality really good but im not sure they have any translations😭
@moonie3866
@moonie3866 11 ай бұрын
Crazy Ex Girlfriend definitely touches on it, but I'm not sure that's everyone's cup of tea
@1000huzzahs
@1000huzzahs 11 ай бұрын
I've found this to be consistently true. Everyone I've known who experiences hypersexuality finds it both very unfulfilling and very often regretful.
@mglarson5936
@mglarson5936 11 ай бұрын
@@moonie3866second Crazy Ex-Girlfriend! One of my favorite shows:)
@ForeignManinaForeignLand
@ForeignManinaForeignLand 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, D'Angelo for watching this for me so that I don't have to die from second hand cringe
@psi9899
@psi9899 11 ай бұрын
I'm dying here from third hand cringe 😔
@saeedrazavi4428
@saeedrazavi4428 11 ай бұрын
Ey, good to see you here, foreign!
@nerdwisdomyo9563
@nerdwisdomyo9563 11 ай бұрын
Seriously… also why am i seeing you like everywhere?
@Deemo202
@Deemo202 11 ай бұрын
Lmao this is like watching Pitch Meetings to see him make fun of a movie you don’t want to watch 😂
@Marlodrama
@Marlodrama 11 ай бұрын
Its third hand embarrassment for me, thats how bad this show is 😭
@absolutelynot.3739
@absolutelynot.3739 11 ай бұрын
The Good Place is a very great TV show about being a good person and fighting a flawed system and it's really clever and fun to watch. Highly recommend
@indiamarie2952
@indiamarie2952 10 ай бұрын
It’s so funny too I love that show
@Otsena
@Otsena 10 ай бұрын
And the ending / near ending is just .... Truly phenomenal. I have goosebumps just thinking back to that really heart wrenching but beautiful line about the ocean and them sitting and watching sunset and the morning after ... :( (don't wish to spoil it bc it's so so so worth watching).
@jomol4598
@jomol4598 10 ай бұрын
extremely great show
@aggressivepianonoises813
@aggressivepianonoises813 11 ай бұрын
28:00 As a victim of abuse myself, I can genuinely say that this sequence of events made me drop my jaw so low that I may as well have torn my temporomandibular joint. Like, NEVER in my ENTIRE LIFE have I seen a line in media that made me think "this can't get any worse" before being followed with an amalgamation of vowels and consonants strewn together that could only manifest from within the ghastly pits of hell. FOUR TIMES. CONSECUTIVELY. I have to say--that was genuinely impressive in such a warped way. So impressive that I never want to hear it again. And no, Tedros, I will not be creating art out of this. Edit: SCRATCH THAT--7 TIMES. BECAUSE I HADN'T EVEN FINISHED THE FULL SEQUENCE. I think this scene is so deeply aggravating mostly because of how it takes itself seriously and outright refuses to call itself out in any manner. Then, when you pair that with the entire context and the very nature of the entire show and the way it tries to imbue Tedros's fucked up word vomits with a paltry layer of false realism, it just becomes so much more sickening... Edit 2: 8 times now. Purely because they decided to include this scene IN THE SHOW and ADD A FUCKING WEEKND SONG IN THE BACK. You can't make this up. I've known the Tedros character for bits and pieces of 3 episodes and he's managed to become one of my least favorite characters in all media--only stymied by Onision's downright ridiculous self-inserts that he wrote into the putrid books I sat through in a few relatively comedic book review videos.
@is_o8053
@is_o8053 11 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear about your story of abuse, you deserved way better and i hope you’re well!
@Coookiiiiiiee
@Coookiiiiiiee 10 ай бұрын
Being on the same level as onision is actually the most horrible thing anyone could become
@psychott6
@psychott6 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this beautifully worded response to this horror
@tharakir1328
@tharakir1328 10 ай бұрын
Well you should watch more movies then, you sound no cultivated enough in cinema to think this is the worse u can do 😂 And I’m sorry to hear about your trauma but it’s not a valid point to criticize a movie or a show, no one cares about personal trauma 🤷🏻‍♀️ the show is not good because it lacks quality not because tedros is abusive
@aurea.
@aurea. 10 ай бұрын
​@@tharakir1328What is your problem?
@iboreasie
@iboreasie 11 ай бұрын
Her crying for her mom was actually heartbreaking
@leflairon
@leflairon 11 ай бұрын
Probably the only or one of the only good scene in that whole show
@aubreysong
@aubreysong 11 ай бұрын
The scene has so much potential, but the actress didn't deliver, just cringe.
@funkunko
@funkunko 11 ай бұрын
@@aubreysongi think she did fine
@ampelidiousannihilation
@ampelidiousannihilation 11 ай бұрын
as an abuse victim (not physical, but verbal & mental) the way they depicted jocelyn's experience is SO telling to how these guys view abuse like. jesus christ
@gameboyhotline3712
@gameboyhotline3712 11 ай бұрын
The female main character is doing a good job in my opinion, like she portrays herself well, and I think with the right script her character could have been great and portraying the realities of mental abuse and eventually growth but the bad acting of The Weeknd and the back script is just killing her :((
@MartianCandies
@MartianCandies 11 ай бұрын
As an abuse victim of all types if abuse, it was truly, truly sickening to watch. Like im full on sick.
@megalodon_meg
@megalodon_meg 11 ай бұрын
You're a bad bitch and I'm proud of you. That might be the only mild accuracy they depict in this cesspool.
@TrackpadProductions
@TrackpadProductions 11 ай бұрын
I haven't read any of the creators' reactions to the backlash for this yet but I'd _bet_ they're gonna do the whole _"he's the bad guy, you're supposed to think what's he doing is wrong"_ shtick, and _completely_ miss the point of the criticism they're getting.
@xx_b33_xx
@xx_b33_xx 11 ай бұрын
@@TrackpadProductions thats basically what the weeknd said about it lmao
@FoxerBoxerNaaniwa
@FoxerBoxerNaaniwa 11 ай бұрын
So… does anyone see the parallels with the main characters backstory with their abusive mom and Jennette McCurdy’s issues? Someone pointed it out to me and I can’t unsee it. And considering the scriptwriting for this show probably happened around the same time her book was released makes it feel less and less like a coincidence.
@Musicanimedork01
@Musicanimedork01 10 ай бұрын
Oh its absolutely not a coincidence Sam Levinson probably read it and thought "mommy issues... kinda hot?"
@maeve2222
@maeve2222 5 ай бұрын
It's impossible to write any kind of piece and not let that stuff filter in, makes me sad they exploited her vulnerability
@david-ug8nk
@david-ug8nk 11 ай бұрын
A show that actually handles grief really well is The Bear! The second season just came out and it’s phenomenal, great acting, music, cinematography, plot, etc. Highly recommend as a segway into exploring grief in TV!
@emeralddrea
@emeralddrea 11 ай бұрын
agreed!
@johnrivers3813
@johnrivers3813 10 ай бұрын
Ooooh yeah, I just rewatched the Christmas Dinner episode and it's so funny and tragic at the same time. Honestly my favorite bit is when the Fak brothers walk into the kitchen asking where their gifted skateboards are and if they could spend the night 😝
@screwyourhandle
@screwyourhandle 10 ай бұрын
I've said it before and I'll say it again: The Segway Human Transporter's greatest impact on society has been not in changing how people travel, but in changing how people spell "segue"
@Almondmilkmother
@Almondmilkmother 11 ай бұрын
As an child abuse victim this is the most triggering thing I’ve seen in a while, wtf if wrong with them why would they make this 💀
@JoeMama-ob2yd
@JoeMama-ob2yd 11 ай бұрын
I am genuinely sorry you had to go through that. I had a very similar situation and can relate to how you may feel but I do have to disagree. This show does a really good job at highlighting certain types of abuse victims. Especially, Jocelyn's dialogue at the end of episode 3 is definitely accurate for some abuse victims. It reminded me of how even though my father hit and insulted things about me I cannot change, I still held on to some stupid reasons that he still loved me because he "made up" to me by buying me nice things to wear or eat. My mum got the brunt of the abuse. Because of that she was in a very vulnerable state for nearly two decades. She placed her trust in literally every person who wouldn't hurt her or call her demeaning names to her character. Like Jocelyn, she was manipulated by many men acting out of bad faith into giving out personal details of her abuse so that they could gain something from her. My mum's inheritance and a good chunk of her valuables were taken away forever because of that. I really have to disagree with D'Angelo on the realism part because this type of shit is realistic and is happening in many places, especially, misogynistic countries where marital abuse is running rampant.The "thank you" part is definitely an accurate thing that happens in places like India where the wife is expected to be grateful that her husband doesn't leave her.
@brieoshiro
@brieoshiro 11 ай бұрын
Seriously. I def don’t want my partner to hit me and scream. It doesn’t motivate me at all. Trauma coping is weird tho but I don’t think this show is doing it correctly
@DanielGarcia-qk1sz
@DanielGarcia-qk1sz 11 ай бұрын
@@JoeMama-ob2ydTHANK YOU. as a fellow survivor, i agree. and i would NOT watch this show keeping in mind my own triggers, because it IS realistic. its almost textbook, like my own experience word for word (fame/music industry aside). whats missing from this commentary and so many of the audience is that education or experience with abuse. i wish more people knew about survivor-centered culture, where survivors and their experiences take center stage when its comes to discussions / representations of abuse. thats whats missing here in this video and these comments.
@NatTy1999_
@NatTy1999_ 11 ай бұрын
I think that was their point, or they just are super oblivious ..
@yasumi1414
@yasumi1414 11 ай бұрын
@@JoeMama-ob2yd just because it did " a really good job at highlighting certain types of abuse victims ", it does NOT mean it's right for them to include such a thing. let alone have a supposed POS of a character act on it and have the victim thanking them for a recreation of their abuse and trauma. its sickening and it should not be ' romanticized ' as it's basically currently being.
@jeniusjames
@jeniusjames 10 ай бұрын
I recently watched a show on Netflix called, "1899". Unfortunately, they only have one season and left it off of a huge cliffhanger but sooo worth the watch! Honestly the only way to describe it is, "all these strangers from Europe are going to America on a ship and weird things start happening that question their reality" Highly recommend and has a female lead done well..the story...cinematography...storyline... everything is amazing! Will leave you on the edge of your seat and questioning everything! 20/10!!
@bluemai8776
@bluemai8776 10 ай бұрын
ugh i loved that show, same creators as 'dark'. I'll never forgive netflix for cancelling it
@gretafaith5237
@gretafaith5237 10 ай бұрын
BRO I LOVE 1899 who do i have to fight at netflix to bring it back
@maddieb.4282
@maddieb.4282 10 ай бұрын
I’m really enjoying it too! I pretty much knew it would end on a cliff hanger, hopefully they’ll find a way to resolve the story at some point!
@heckinwes6080
@heckinwes6080 10 ай бұрын
I was legitimately depressed after they made the announcement canceling it. I had been waiting for 1899 for YEARS but Netflix doomed it from the start. Releasing it the same weekend as a large sport event (I don’t remember what) and a week or two before Wednesday, not to mention the plagiarism allegations that had no factual basis. I was seething and I really hope more people watch it because it is truly incredible and Bo and Jantje deserve the world ❤❤
@ErinGoBraghx
@ErinGoBraghx 11 ай бұрын
It sucks that you can see the bones of what could have been a really good show if the original director had been able to finish it, and instead Sam Levinson got his hands on it and turned it into this.
@raccoonsandys3038
@raccoonsandys3038 11 ай бұрын
This show is weirdly inspirational, it shows that anyone can make better content than what Sam Levinson puts out
@gut853
@gut853 11 ай бұрын
This comment is honestly so funny😂😂😂😂
@thatchick1205
@thatchick1205 11 ай бұрын
Yes!! The only thing he ever does, is show off women’s naked bodies, not for the plot but just because he wants to. There’s so many nude scenes that are literally pointless. It feels so exploitative because it really is. It feels like he hired people that he wants to see naked.
@tlunceford77
@tlunceford77 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@BeautyToTheMax99
@BeautyToTheMax99 11 ай бұрын
Euphoria is a great show though
@chisomo8088
@chisomo8088 11 ай бұрын
​@@BeautyToTheMax99no, it's not. It's a mediocre show only helped by the attractiveness of it's characters. It was even more mid after Sam Levinson finished copying the original idea for Euphoria s1, & the fuel ran out cause it was never his idea to begin with.
@seanraefae
@seanraefae 11 ай бұрын
The disgusting comment about Epstein’s Island was the most offensive and vile thing I’ve ever heard. What a mockery and slap in the face to all those child victims, and victims of SA everywhere.
@JoCalderone1
@JoCalderone1 11 ай бұрын
Far worse slap in the face of the victims from Epsteins island is the fact that it's all covered up from the beginning, a joke from a show really isn't that bad and it's giving very much performative activism
@baintreachas
@baintreachas 11 ай бұрын
@@JoCalderone1??? SA survivors can say “that was a horrible thing to say,” you know, they’re not saying “that was worse than Epstein himself”???
@raneemfathy2581
@raneemfathy2581 11 ай бұрын
Truly the most disgusting thing I’ve ever heard. I couldn’t even believe what I heard. Disgusting
@rachaelfitzpatrick8574
@rachaelfitzpatrick8574 11 ай бұрын
@@JoCalderone1 You can be appalled by a disgusting joke at the expense of victims of real life abuse without undermining the horrors of that abuse itself, as well as the way it’s been handled. It’s not performative activism to feel that that joke was wrong and uncalled for considering the way it pokes fun at and makes light of the reality that you’ve pointed out yourself. Plus, a comment on a KZfaq video would hardly be considered activism to begin with.
@RAC00NFANGIRL
@RAC00NFANGIRL 11 ай бұрын
@@JoCalderone1Y’know the weekend isn’t going let you suck his d right? Also love how defending this show.. Because show mocking actual victims soo fun for whole family! Dear god you cannot be this dense
@Montesama314
@Montesama314 10 ай бұрын
Oh, shit, Jocelyn is calling for her mom not for emotional support, but to PUNISH HERSELF because she thought she wasn't good enough after the music video failure! That is really tragic.
@rhys1775
@rhys1775 11 ай бұрын
can we talk about how they based jocelyn's background story off jeannette mccurdy's actual life? 😭
@nia5667
@nia5667 10 ай бұрын
I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING!!!! This felt way too similar like it was targeted towards her. disgusting.
@beatrice4628
@beatrice4628 11 ай бұрын
This series could have honestly been a great commentary on the industry, I think the part where Jocelyn strived for a perfect take until her feet bled was the best part of the whole show cause it showed her human side and her inability to accept anything less than what she thinks is extraordinary. Sadly it was sandwiched between random sex scenes and batshit insane dialogue
@megalodon_meg
@megalodon_meg 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! Don't give her depth (Deppth?) and sympathy then continue to show her as a thoughtless object.
@nickalem5692
@nickalem5692 11 ай бұрын
with how the show is progressing, that whole scene where she has a breakdown was actually just an act. Jocelyn is a master manipulator and a sociopath at that. She seems naive and weak but she has been in control all this time. The show is setting her up as some kind of sociopathic femme fatale. Everyone's confused as to how the Weeknd's uncharismatic character pulled her and got her infatuated with him when in reality she's not actually infatuated with him at all. She's just using him for her own personal gain. The opening shot of the series where Jocelyn instantly displays different ranges of emotion on cue is a hint that she can easily manipulate. It's almost clear that she abused and killed her mother at this point. It'll all be clear once the final episode airs. I think this show should've been released in its entirety at once before people wrote it off
@Alltherestofus
@Alltherestofus 11 ай бұрын
I have to agree. I thought that scene was very well done.
@montymon6944
@montymon6944 11 ай бұрын
​@nickalem5692 making her a femme fatal isn't exactly better. That's a known misogynistic trope, and would actually be one of the worst routes they could take it.
@treaveannyretro92
@treaveannyretro92 11 ай бұрын
​@@nickalem5692ngl this story isn't much better given the topic they're exploring
@sid0610
@sid0610 11 ай бұрын
“We went from a really touching scene, to another touching scene”-that had me dying 😂
@Dont_Read_My_Picture
@Dont_Read_My_Picture 11 ай бұрын
Don't read my name!...
@kamiiu
@kamiiu 11 ай бұрын
same 🤣
@townsongs
@townsongs 11 ай бұрын
what is his problem 😭😭
@Nathi98
@Nathi98 11 ай бұрын
D'Angelo accidentally being a poetic genius is more entertaining than Abel's shitty acting
@caitlynmo
@caitlynmo 10 ай бұрын
A completely unrelated but enjoyable, turn-off-your-brain show that I like to watch is Crime Scene Kitchen. It's a baking competition show where the contestants have to figure out what was previously baked in a kitchen by looking at clues (like checking the garbage???) and then they have to bake it themselves. It's highly entertaining but also you can definitely zone out for a good chunk and still enjoy it. Anyways, thanks for your service of watching and recapping The Idol because I certainly wasn't going to watch it.
@mori9226
@mori9226 10 ай бұрын
It’s such a great show and very creative I liked it a lot
@SpagettiSpeltWrong
@SpagettiSpeltWrong 10 ай бұрын
We should honestly congratulate the writers for writing this show with one hand.
@asaherrera8478
@asaherrera8478 11 ай бұрын
hearing about joceylns abuse with her mother kind of gave me Jennette McCurdy vibes on how she used to describe her pain and the experiences her mother forced her through in her book, i wouldnt be shocked if the weekend saw that and went "okay but what if i made it worse and misconstrued that story and put it in the show"
@margarete5920
@margarete5920 11 ай бұрын
It's just terrible like, here we have a problematic man use her trauma and experience for his shit show. Like dude 💀
@seekittycat
@seekittycat 11 ай бұрын
Can puke from the though that they saw the popularity of the book and thought they can shove some CA in this garbage fire. Like does this sort of manipulation happen in RL? Sure. Should they have wrote it and shot it this way? Hell no. The framing is so messed up
@sirsmokeefortwence25
@sirsmokeefortwence25 11 ай бұрын
Jocelyn is definitely supposed to be loosely based off of Brittney Spears.
@vanessaultimo1926
@vanessaultimo1926 11 ай бұрын
I really would like to hear Jennette's opinion on this. To me it seemed very disrespectful and borderline glorifying abuse.
@notnotapipe496
@notnotapipe496 11 ай бұрын
This could be story about Jocelyn and her struggles with abusive mom, mental health and music career, but Weekend was like nah, how do I insert myself and my fantasies here 🤦🏻‍♀️
@mollyhanson7828
@mollyhanson7828 11 ай бұрын
"more red flags than a Canadian gift shop" Is both one of the best lines I have ever heard and really shows how bad the situation is. Canadian gift stores are basically just flags.
@ghostsoffishandcrows7341
@ghostsoffishandcrows7341 11 ай бұрын
No,,, it's also Roots merch
@Aaron-ln3ht
@Aaron-ln3ht 10 ай бұрын
Hey D'angelo! I just wanna say that I'm really proud of you. Even though I don't personally know you. You are such a treasure to the KZfaq community, you overcame so much struggle and you were so strong in your battle with mental health issues. It's extremely brave and inspirational of you to talk in depth about your struggles in 'things got pretty bad' which was one of the first times I realized that other people go through the same things I do. And you are so strong in your battle with mental health issues through how much being a YT personality affected you, yet you were able to get better and start to make videos for us, which we greatly cherish. This is really random but still, thank you so much for what you do. I wish you the best. 🖤
@ginahyena
@ginahyena 11 ай бұрын
Love these reviews, your timing is great and youre hilarious. Movie recs to bleach your eyes: After yang - shot so beautifully and feels like a meditation After sun- (weird they both start with “after”) this feels like watching a memory and is the directors love letter to her late father Decision to leave- every shot feels like a painting, actors are amazing, a noir that explores darkness of humans in a beautiful way/ probably what the creators of this show wish they could do Marscapone - just a cute Italian love story about gay men that isn’t tacky and feels like you’re traveling
@tigerlily515
@tigerlily515 11 ай бұрын
this outfit today is EVERYTHING ugh between the butterfly clips, the hair, the pocket bear, the pins, the earrings, it's just *chef's kiss*
@rosalienmander9357
@rosalienmander9357 11 ай бұрын
IKR
@maxn666
@maxn666 11 ай бұрын
YES
@peacefulchaos333
@peacefulchaos333 11 ай бұрын
RIGHT
@gut853
@gut853 11 ай бұрын
He really woke up and said I feel like slaying
@likaminah
@likaminah 11 ай бұрын
Fr❤
@kpopical
@kpopical 11 ай бұрын
Extraordinary Attorney Woo is a Korean drama about an autistic woman who becomes a lawyer. It’s touching, funny, emotional and extremely well-written and acted. I had tears in my eyes more than once, but they were cathartic. This is the kind of show that gives you faith in the goodness of humanity and I think would work well to bleach your poor poor eyes
@iristravis483
@iristravis483 11 ай бұрын
I literally came to the comment section to recommend this show! It was such a drama and touched the basis on so many relevant topics.
@heatherlee2967
@heatherlee2967 11 ай бұрын
+++
@heatherlee2967
@heatherlee2967 11 ай бұрын
I love that show!
@oddlem
@oddlem 11 ай бұрын
I second this!!! and it's also super super accurate too, even tho the main actress isn't actually autistic and just did a ton of research to make sure she presented it correctly. Super super wholesome series
@PurpleMilkkz
@PurpleMilkkz 11 ай бұрын
I love this show so much!! It had me crying 😭💜
@thatdeadmeme
@thatdeadmeme 11 ай бұрын
Bruh, I can’t express just how much I love your style??? You’ve always had amazing style, but these past few outfits have been such bangers. I’m genuinely always so excited every upload to see how we can possibly raise the fashion bar any higher. Thanks for enduring more of this garbage for us!!
@teletubbiestunetwister9570
@teletubbiestunetwister9570 11 ай бұрын
Hey, D'Angelo.... the best eye bleach in the world is the 1960s TV show The Addams Family. Wait... I'm serious. There is so much sweetness and love amongst the family, and their obliviousness to how they are seen by outsiders is something that I long to achieve. The love and respect between Gomez and Morticia is inspiring. Just give yourself a half-hour of tenderness and try S1E1. Best of luck. And thanks for this vid. I think.
@alexf0723
@alexf0723 11 ай бұрын
The funniest thing is Tetris acting like the most intimidating person in the room when every other actor looks like they can snap him in half instantly
@GothicSandra
@GothicSandra 11 ай бұрын
I know the show is bad entirely but something tells me that his character IS supposed to be perceived like that. Like, that was the purpose, the leaders of a cult are so appealing and attractive to some people, specifically vulnerable people, since the audience is not like that I think we are easily grossed out by Tedros, but Jocelyn, who is in a weak and vulnerable place is easily convinced by the "I care about you" "Im going to protect you" act. I repeat, not defending the show but I thing there is a lot more to analyze.
@ivonne8068
@ivonne8068 11 ай бұрын
@@booperdooper2631 man literally doesn't allow his team to say no and he thinks he has a say about boundaries 💀
@blackdiamond9662
@blackdiamond9662 11 ай бұрын
Tedros reaction to being called gay is probably the best acting we will get out of the weekend. He was actually able to make me a little scared about what he would do next.
@saturnia_
@saturnia_ 11 ай бұрын
probably bc that’s how he would actually react in real life if someone said that to him
@blackdiamond9662
@blackdiamond9662 11 ай бұрын
@@saturnia_ definitely
@Misa.misato
@Misa.misato 11 ай бұрын
That was the only time when his character felt genuinely intimidating. Every other time he just seemed so goofy while trying act tough I couldn't take him seriously.
@RAC00NFANGIRL
@RAC00NFANGIRL 11 ай бұрын
@@Misa.misatodude probably could get beat up easily! The weekend isn’t tough guy just wannabe tough guy.
@toomuchinformation
@toomuchinformation 11 ай бұрын
Also when he threatened the clothing assistant.
@trailersparks
@trailersparks 11 ай бұрын
Eye bleach suggestion: watch Barry. That show understands exactly what its characters do wrong and doesn’t let them off the hook for any of it. Great writing and acting, no rat tails.
@sushibunsxo
@sushibunsxo 11 ай бұрын
20:10 WHY WOULD THEY EVEN WRITE THAT!?
@UnIVCubed
@UnIVCubed 11 ай бұрын
fun fact: The Idol is not actually named after idols, but rather, is a portmanteau of the phrase "i don't like this", which is what you'll be saying when you watch the show
@Wait..WHAT24
@Wait..WHAT24 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@SN-vn6wb
@SN-vn6wb 11 ай бұрын
best comment 😂
@trudelulu
@trudelulu 11 ай бұрын
there's a way to write problematic characters without it feeling like the show itself is terrible but that would require the creators to have self-awareness
@sierra1390
@sierra1390 10 ай бұрын
i really hate to do this to u but ima need that episode 4+5 video
@theaverageone4415
@theaverageone4415 11 ай бұрын
For animation bliss eye bleach Across the Spider Verse is aesthetically 100% pure art inspiration straight to the veins. Phenomenal viewing experience, especially in how well it translates comic to movie. Mushishi, xxxHolic, and the work of director Satoshi Kon are some wonderous palette-cleansing favorites for standing out each in their own unique ways.
@HydraSpectre1138
@HydraSpectre1138 10 ай бұрын
Perfect Blue is everything this show wishes it was. If it actually wanted to be an insightful look at exploitation in the music industry.
@dina442
@dina442 11 ай бұрын
"this is the kind of found family where you might just want to lose them again" had me DYING 😭
@ddjsoyenby
@ddjsoyenby 11 ай бұрын
who among us hasn't been a star for the guy tedros ripped off sordet :D
@romelia.
@romelia. 11 ай бұрын
The part where Jocelyn says “this is something no one is doing” & Nikki replies “ya there’s a reason no one is doing this” is actually so good & I wish Mr. Weekend & that Sam guy had someone around to shoot them down like that.
@swebb1
@swebb1 11 ай бұрын
They did have someone like that but they got rid of her. The original director.
@romelia.
@romelia. 11 ай бұрын
@@swebb1 tru tru… moment of silence for what could have been 😔
@auliamate
@auliamate 11 ай бұрын
@@romelia.we need the Siemetz cut with the original story!
@cutekitten4395
@cutekitten4395 10 ай бұрын
I recommend HeartStopper, especially as season 2 is being released around the corner. It's a lovely show about a young friend-group navigating queerness, social expectations, mental health and trauma. It's really good already and since I've read the Webcomic it's based on I know it'll only keep getting better
@Tacomuncher_25
@Tacomuncher_25 10 ай бұрын
28:55 As someone whos mother has emotionally, verbally (and sometimes led to being physical) abused me for most of my life, holy shit if someone asked me these questions i think i would start screaming ☠️
@aficklefangirl2566
@aficklefangirl2566 11 ай бұрын
That scene of Jocelyn at the music video shoot makes me so sad for what this show could have been because I bet that that is taken nearly unchanged from Amy Seimetz's script. It fits really well into the sort of show that she, and the rest of the original writers, cast, and crew were trying to tell - a story about the exploitation and dehumanisation of stars and the dark side of fame.
@Rainbow-jb4xg
@Rainbow-jb4xg 11 ай бұрын
Lily is a good actress, this show could have been great.
@MoxieRocker
@MoxieRocker 11 ай бұрын
It felt like a real Black Swan moment
@asunbeam5479
@asunbeam5479 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely agreed. I am so disappointed because this show genuinely could have been great. The Weekend's character and that whole plotline is just unnecessary and self gratifying. I keep wishing the plot focused on exactly what you described--the exploitation and dehumanization of stars.
@noone-gf5op
@noone-gf5op 11 ай бұрын
I saw a comment that actually DID say this scene is from the original writing of the show. I don't know how much you could trust a youtube comment, but to be honest, it sounds so logical to me. I do not believe sam and abel - the most unapologetically misogynistic writers in a long moment - managed to write something human about a female character. they really don't make me believe they have the capacity to see a purpose to female characters besides their sexuality and "corrupted innocence"
@nickman2345
@nickman2345 11 ай бұрын
Not only has his performances in this show confirmed it, but the way Abel has been handling the crticism in interviews and on Twitter shows that he's simply not made to be a high-profile actor
@autoestimasm3408
@autoestimasm3408 11 ай бұрын
What did he said? I don't have twitter :o
@Hello_Marbles_
@Hello_Marbles_ 11 ай бұрын
@@autoestimasm3408 He’s been responding to almost everyone who’s been talking about him. From what I heard he’s responding to send his fans to attack them.
@auliamate
@auliamate 11 ай бұрын
I miss when Abel Tesfaye didnt speak to news outlets much, because couldn’t have ever known this is what he’d be saying. Like bro self reported himself BIG TIME
@cupidream9702
@cupidream9702 11 ай бұрын
It’s so embarrassing. I’m a huge fan of him but even I can’t deny how immature and unprofessional he’s being lmao.
@melvram
@melvram 11 ай бұрын
@@cupidream9702agreed
10 ай бұрын
I recommend the kdrama Little Women! I haven't seen past episode 6 yet but so far this kdrama has me in its grips when it comes to tone, cinematography and use of background music/soundtrack. Every episode feels almost movielike and the main characters feel so human, to the point of frustration sometimes haha. Every shot, every line feels so intentional and so carefully planned.
@jekyle4074
@jekyle4074 10 ай бұрын
The idea of a vulnerable young woman become entangled with a cult could make for such compelling tv, but instead we get... this. Also, I feel dense for just now getting that the "idol" in the title is referring to Tedros, not the blonde (I can't remember her name)
@aratoho
@aratoho 11 ай бұрын
I think what's really disappointing is that there are moments where you can see that this genuinely was going to be a really good show. If Jocelyn had remained the focus like originally intended I think we would all be having a very different conversation.
@Dont_Read_My_Picture
@Dont_Read_My_Picture 11 ай бұрын
Don't read my name!...
@fionagallagherapologist5968
@fionagallagherapologist5968 11 ай бұрын
exactly :(
@turkeyhamanddeath
@turkeyhamanddeath 11 ай бұрын
But noooooo you just have to had Teddy here
@corneliastreets
@corneliastreets 11 ай бұрын
Jocelyn’s life and career were more than enough to carry The Idol. You can see potential in different elements they’ve shown, from Jocelyn’s complex relationship with her mother, the weight of having to make a career-saving comeback, and even the phenomenon of current stars being “replaced” by the next big thing (Dyanne). The show was doomed by The Weeknd’s unnecessary presence and influence on the storyline.
@rdfjfgjyfdhfghy67456
@rdfjfgjyfdhfghy67456 11 ай бұрын
At the part she called out for her mum, I actually saw so much potential in this storyline.😢😢😢 and this show really has a problem of its side characters being so much more interesting than the main character
@ashiri8445
@ashiri8445 11 ай бұрын
Yes omg, calling her mom had me think "hm, maybe it won't be as bad" and here we are with the next episodes 🫣
@rachaelfitzpatrick8574
@rachaelfitzpatrick8574 11 ай бұрын
Honestly same, and that scene made me especially sad seeing that LRD actually might have some real acting potential if she’s given material that’s actually in any way good 😢 I can’t see this show helping her career in any way, from the terrible dialogue to the abhorrent plot and character development, it feels like it will just stop her from ever being taken seriously as an individual and paint her as just another nepo baby seeking the limelight, and as someone who will take any role that brings attention to her name, even if it’s controversial for controversy’s sake. If the original script was really more female centred and empowering as we’ve heard it was, it feels like she may have actually intended to create a meaningful project as her big acting debut, and yet this is the reality we’ve ended up with.
@rinwhittney5039
@rinwhittney5039 11 ай бұрын
it could've been good if it explored her grief and trauma. Tedros was unnecessary
@caseyreyes8683
@caseyreyes8683 11 ай бұрын
@@rachaelfitzpatrick8574this is not her acting debut she’s done a few indie films and some French movies as well as The King on Netflix with Timothee chalamet
@AnnieDHarpie
@AnnieDHarpie 11 ай бұрын
I have a feeling the original showrunner’s vision would have been so good.
@maluassis127
@maluassis127 11 ай бұрын
29:05 WHAT 😭 I’m so done and haven’t even watched it
@MillyBillyVanilly
@MillyBillyVanilly 11 ай бұрын
19:27 not the Will Smith slap 😂😂😂
@shardstar35
@shardstar35 11 ай бұрын
her crying out for her mom was so devastatingly real and heartbreaking. and the plot point of Dyanne replacing her!! like probably the only things remotely within the realm of actually interesting and worth pursuing. but no. we gotta sit through garbage instead
@Falxifer95
@Falxifer95 11 ай бұрын
I'm almost certain that entire scene is probably the sole survivor from the Nepo Baby overhaul, because they probably didn't have time to reshot it. Also, the show was supposed to be 6 episodes but the 5th episode will be the last which really puts into perspective how much of a mess this whole production was.
@nexialiist
@nexialiist 11 ай бұрын
the weeknd is so mad audiences want to see an interesting story rather than his creepy power tripping fantasies
@purrgundy
@purrgundy 11 ай бұрын
Especially since he wanted to talk about the rotten music industry. Diane could've been a poster child for the ambitious but overseen background dancer who doesn't have famous parents in the industry, therefore who has to resort to every means to make a name for herself, whether by creating scandal/drama or by backstabbing Jocelyn not because she's brainwashed, but because it's a cutthroat industry. It's kill or be killed. Kinda like Andrew from the movie Whiplash: ready to sell his soul to make it to the big stage.
@vampirechick1159
@vampirechick1159 11 ай бұрын
I think the big failure of the writing in this show is that no one falls into toxic situations knowingly. Tedros fails as a controlling abuser bc abusers are really charming when you first meet them. He's not supposed to be creepy from the jump 🙄
@reeverecor5096
@reeverecor5096 11 ай бұрын
idk. i get what ur saying but from what we learn later about jocelyn past abuse at the hands of her mom it kind of makes sense that subconsciously she would be attracted to that for stability
@bronzeecho
@bronzeecho 11 ай бұрын
@@reeverecor5096 the subconscious part here fails a little bit bc she’s perfectly consciously aware that he’s creepy and rapey and controlling
@annieothername
@annieothername 11 ай бұрын
@bronzeecho hm, i hear ya. sometimes you can be aware of patterns and still hope it’s real love this time, that you can really change the person from what you “learned” in the first abusive relationship. Or because one was familial, you may not exactly recognize what it looks like in romantic relationships, especially when they cross professional lines. It gets messy and confusing fast. PTSD isn’t as simple as knowing and stopping repeated traumas, unfortunately.
@ren5397
@ren5397 11 ай бұрын
@@reeverecor5096in the context of a tv show you have to be portraying your character in a way that elicits the desired response from your audience. It doesn’t really matter if we can justify Jocelyn’s attraction to him, we the audience have to be able to see him as both attractive and creepy for the show to work, and between the terrible writing and Abel’s acting (huge fan of his music btw), we just see him as repulsive, so the plot doesn’t make sense.
@DanielGarcia-qk1sz
@DanielGarcia-qk1sz 11 ай бұрын
ur definitely wrong and shouldn’t speak from that perspective if you havent actually experienced intimate partner abuse yourself.
@biancaflowers173
@biancaflowers173 10 ай бұрын
Patiently waiting for your next videos on this!
@oliviaaalien
@oliviaaalien 11 ай бұрын
highly recommend gilmore girls, i'm currently rewatching it but savouring it slower and noticing smaller details that are so clever! it's cosy and wholesome (for the most part) and has comfort food-qualities. also you grow alongside the characters and see them as true people making mistakes as they make their way thru life. v v good for early 2000s nostalgia :)
@kbt1771
@kbt1771 11 ай бұрын
10:30 was kinda heartbreaking. It really shows that if there was an actually good, functional script, Lily Rose would have killed it. I really want to see the original script that was written, because there is NO WAY Sam and Abel wrote that in. Thats a genuinely crushing scene if it was part of a good series
@invu_lynn
@invu_lynn 11 ай бұрын
It actually physically hurt me that such a good scene is trapped in such a bad show (that and the scene where the older man snaps his fingers for a gun thinking Jocelyn was in danger, such a good part)
@loverboyclement6767
@loverboyclement6767 11 ай бұрын
kinda fully disagree with this. i’m pretty sure levinson wrote it, as much as he sucks he can be a very good character writer when he wants to be. also, i was just very unimpressed with lily rose-depp throughout the whole series including this scene. obviously she’s not as bad as the weeknd but she just completely fails to make me suspend my disbelief, the whole time i feel like i’m watching an actress and not a separate human being.
@kbt1771
@kbt1771 11 ай бұрын
@loverboyclement6767 fair enough, being completely honest, I've never watched Euphoria or any other popular Levinson shows, so I probably don't have the most reliable take on what he has written and what he hasn't, its just such a stark difference to the rest of the scenes, it feels like it's from a different show. I can see your point about Lily Rose, however, with such a cringe awkward oversexualised script, it must be very difficult to express a realistic version, whereas in her scene where she was desperate, vulnerable, needing her mother, I feel like she really connected with the character and therefore she was spectacular in pulling it off(especially in comparison with other scenes).
@thtzsbun
@thtzsbun 11 ай бұрын
you can tell they blew the budget reshooting and casting all these celebrities. paired with the switch of director, i honestly have no clue why they thought this was a good idea to follow through on at all 😭
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 11 ай бұрын
And the fact that it was a female director, like, an ounce of self awareness is free. Put another woman in the chair so you can respectfully tell a story about a woman, easy maths innit
@thtzsbun
@thtzsbun 11 ай бұрын
@@nailinthefashion LITERALLY! it’s so ridiculous lord.
@Ash-dj5ph
@Ash-dj5ph 11 ай бұрын
I don't understand why in the whole world lily said yes to this??? She's literally Depp's daughter and she chose this for her launch? ☠
@whoismedicate8083
@whoismedicate8083 11 ай бұрын
Honestly this show isn’t as bad, I’ve been enjoying it🍃
@trippyjun
@trippyjun 11 ай бұрын
@@Make_AWishbecause when you throw in 75 million dollars, it’s way too late to nope outta there. Might as well turn it into cringy click bait so people can talk smack about it
@user-rz3nu3lm5r
@user-rz3nu3lm5r 10 ай бұрын
The best example I can think of when it comes to a portrayal of abuse that doesn’t glorify it, and centers the victim’s perspective is “twin peaks: fire walk with me.” It’s one of the most disturbing movies I’ve ever watched like it literally haunts me, but it’s extremely sensitive to Laura’s (the main character) plight, and it portrays her in sexual situations without turning her into an object for the camera. It’s from a completely different genre and time, but Sam Levinsen and The Weeknd could seriously take some notes from David Lynch on how to write disturbing stories about women who are abused without becoming the very thing they claim to critique. It will probably be a very confusing watch if you haven’t seen the first two seasons of twin peaks as it’s meant to be a prequel, and it’s also very strange and surreal, but I highly recommended fire walk with me if you want to watch some actual engaging and thoughtful art about abuse and exploitation.
@Shishuuu47
@Shishuuu47 10 ай бұрын
I actually enjoy your reactions lmao I'm really looking forward to a last part talking about the last 2 episodes please do it !! ❤
@paasinka
@paasinka 11 ай бұрын
I feel physically ill from the hairbrush thing. Like my stomach permanently rolled around. That scene made it from "just another bad show made by famous people" to "absolutely disgusting garbage"
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