Hell yes, king 😊

I miss D’Angelo 😢

Love you D'angelo! I hope you're break has you feeling better ❤

Please do a video on The Adam McIntyre Drama!!! 👍

❤

Yes girl, it's digusting. That being the reason why you replayce your female director with a male one is super stupid. Also the Rolling Stones shaming is just... omg, so bad.

Sadly that's usually what happens when you have a female character written by a male.

this is a movie about toxic people from show business, what did you expect fairy tales for children?

@@Asmax120 no but the fact that they had a woman say she likes rapey men after the producers said there was too much of a female perspective in the show is disgusting. Portraying toxic show businesses doesn’t mean u need to write a female character like this. Did u even watch the video?

​@@Asmax120Bro, it wasn't supposed to be a fairy tale, it's 18+ and not for children for sure, it was supposed to portray the toxic side of music industry. You on drugs l0ser? No woman in earth likes rapey men. Doesn't matter how lame that woman is.

I watched the second episode and when the sex scene came in, all I could think about is "too much of a female perspective" while the weeknd was grabbing tits.

I feel like if they wanted this show to work, they needed to get more of a female perspective.

@@crystalnova4897 i'm just laughing at ppl who are acting shooketh that the weeknd is a creepy misogynist. like have yall listened to his ENTIRE DISCOGRAPHY ?? XD

Fr. Not to mention his fetishization of wlw relationships

@@juliahock5549 whose?

💜

THIS

Seriously. It's possibly the loudest red flag EVER to be against something that aims to prevent sexual exploitation.

i wish i could like this twice

Sydney is the type who wants to keep her job, lol. Of course she won’t talk publicly about Sam being a little weirdo, she wants to keep her job

I think Rue’s addiction is pretty good especially episode 5 of s2 probably because SL is drawing from his own experience but pretty much everything else is exploitive and bs

Facts, the only episode I liked was when Zendaya was running through the streets trying to get the money to pay back that drug dealer.

​@@kakacoco5 it was so iconic 💀🤭

Ngl, I thought season 1 was so damn promising. Then season 2 just threw everything away but Rue😑

I liked the characters actually. If it was about college kids of high graduates I would maybe be more into it but still alot better than this since Cassie had her clothes on more in season 2

Definitely. Especially with Sam Levinson’s track record of constantly belittling and sexualising the female stars in his shows. That, and The Weeknd’s blatant use of misogynistic language in his lyrics. What a concoction of absolute BS. It’s just disgusting that they could even green light this disaster💀

!!!!!!!!

well said.

Don't read my name!!

and maybe could be interesting to watch a narrative that depicts a woman discovering consent-non-consent kinks, but it's a complex question very much within women's experience. not having a woman guiding the script is not only wrong, but also just makes it extremely superficial and objectively bad (as we can see in this series lol)

Exactly! I noticed that on episode 2! It almost as if Abel has some sort of body insecurity. Like how do you have sex scenes where you are have a full blown outfit on, where everyone else has boobs out…

i always got the vibe that Abel is insecure about his body, he wears coats and long sleeves even in summer. That wouldn't been a problem if Lily wasn't wearing skimpy outfits all the time in the show, even at leisure!! so unrealistic.

Thanks for pointing that out. I cut out of Game of Thrones earlier than most because I got so sick of full nudity for female actors while their characters were having sex with male characters who somehow had sex through their pants. The double standard was extreme and you could just imagine how those casting sessions exploited the women.

Don't read my name!!

@@Cat_Woods I was thinking the same. I think this is something happening throughout almost all HBO showsin general. Even shows I adore like Big little lies had so much female nudity in it and almost nothing from the men

Intimacy coordinator trying to their job to make sure everyone is comfortable while doing their job. The show: how dare you control how women should show their body

Oh my, god people like you are everything that is wrong about culture. How is it possible that leftists have become more prudish than conservatives?

“Now, Sam; is the intimacy co-ordination in the room with us now?”

literally!! when she was like “so i’m NOT allowed to show my body” it was like… no? not until everyone involved consents to it??

Are there celebrities whose private selves are completely different than their public personas? The Rammstein scandal has kind of taught me a lesson ...

Except Ellen has never gotten the chance to defend herself. You've all just judged her as guilty by default and she hasn't gotten the ball yet. You can't prove she knew about or openly participated in the workplace problems, rather than someone pretending to act on her behalf, like in the MLP episode about Countess Coloratura. Furthermore, Telepictures is an aol boys' network with a history of making workplaces like this: they did so with Rosie O'Donnell's show. The problem lies with executives there, not Ellen herself.

@@luv4hutch Ellen literally defended herself on her own show, calm down.

@@FortuitousOwl She didn't get that. She didn't have a forum to express everything point by point, and make things clear, like, say, an interview, either in print or on broadcast media. No one ever bothered to do so, and the clickbait-hungry corporate media and short-attention-span Internet public have judged her guilty. It's as simple as that. You all use the the Maya Angelou quote, "When someone shows you who they are the first time, believe them." Well, Ellen has shown us who she is since she came out in 1997, since she spoke so movingly at the vigil for Matthew Shepard in 1998. I believe her. But you don't apply that saying to Ellen. It's exactly like how Martha Stewart was convicted in that sham trial in a kangaroo court, chosen to be the first scalp for the government over Wall Street's sins, instead of more deserving targets like Ken Lay and Jeff Skilling and Bernie Ebbers. You want to find a fraud and a hypocrite in talk show circles? Go look at Oprah. You wanna find someone who is emblematic of toxicity. Go look at Tyra Banks. Ellen is nothing like them.

@@luv4hutch she defended herself on her show. She didn’t go point by point because she chose not to. ITS HER SHOW. She has put out multiple statements, if she hasn’t gone point by point enough for you, it’s because SHE CHOSE NOT TO. Probably because it would make her look bad to do so. Jesus you’re stupid. Ellen had every opportunity to defend herself on her own talk show she hosts and has control over. She has done dozens of interviews where SHE CHOSE not to go point by point. I don’t know what would satisfy you honestly. “She didn’t have a forum” SHE HAD HER OWN SHOW. FOR TWO YEARS AFTER THE ALLEGATIONS CAME OUT.

With all due respect, can you define what a woman is?

@@liampatrick3110 oh brother, this guy STINKS

@@liampatrick3110 🍅🍅🍅

@@eg4374 😭💀

​@@liampatrick3110 a human adult female

to be fair i dont think they personally fired her, but same vibe seeing she left

@@sora1498 naw they fired her

@@sora1498 they quite literally did fire her

@@BlasianLynn As a white woman, it weirds me out too. BW deserve SO MUCH better.

We don’t know if that’s actually true though.

While it's incredibly similar, I wouldn't say it's entirely based upon it, because, sadly. It's more common than you'd think, just she's one of the few to come out about it/the biggest case (Though, I'm not much of a social media person, so there could be bigger ones, correct me if I'm wrong.)

cringe tf idiotic -_-

Completely agree, learning more and more about the storyline, it's honestly disgusting how they're romanticizing and glorifying what Jenette's been through - glad this flopped and people still have some sort of moral compass

What was it that happened?

Jennette needs to sue ASAP

so then why was Euphoria so popular? Literally has the same lines and dialogue

@@engeltjie_engelbrecht Most the same people who dislike this show didn't like what sam levinson was doing over there either fyi the comment section here is a very different audience from his usual supporters, but even then it seems like the general tone around the idol is it's far more blatantly misogynistic with less excuses for why and less quality to make up for it

​@@engeltjie_engelbrecht because zendaya and cinematography. Everyone agreed the weird scenes like the intro, the carousel scene and the Maddy beach scene were unnecessary

@@KrissyBlues Euphoria depicted teenagers and minors getting sa'd

​@@engeltjie_engelbrecht well fuck euphoria too,it has more substance(not enough,specially not in s2)than this shit but honestly I hope another season of it doesn't happen,its boring and stupid

Oh noo, that's a massive red flag

Hmmmm did know that

fr

i would remove the "fucking" because it makes it seem like the women director had sex with sam levinson

That was proven to be a lie.... stop regurgitating false truths

Right??? I told my partner this show felt like a huge promo for The Weeknd. Instead of putting out music videos, dude put out a whole ass show 😂

Funny you say this, because when I watched episode 1 I literally said out loud, “ This just seems like a really long music video for The Weeknd” 😂 I kept watching waiting for it to get good and it never did.

the show literally has his music too im pretty sure

true. this makes his statement that he played completely against character all the more laughable. he's always presented himself in this DArK tWisTEd way

"bdsm"

omg it's literally dollar store Perfect Blue you're so right

​@@thechumbucket8986 nawwww it doesn't even deserve to be called "dollar store perfect blue"... it's just straight up garbage.

omg did he say that

👏 👏 👏

i mean it doesn’t really touch on the same themes as perfect blue at all… but i get what you’re saying lol

Behind the scenes? It's in the scenes, blatantly and unjustifiably proudly. Just finished ep2 and ugh. The potential to tell the tragic story of a tortured superstar is completely trashed. What even is this show and why should we care?

@@LisaLee__just finished ep2 and i honestly agree. i wish i could take back my view…

@@hobibruja thought you meant view as in view that the show was bad i was like why??? and then i realized it was the fact that you viewed it that you want to take it back lmfaooooo

Fr

​@@LisaLee__ Fr

Don't read my name!!

Not as rich as his daddy :)

⁠@@ahhh4117 Lmao ain’t that the truth 😂

Agreed. I didn’t like euphoria at all

Yes! On top of all that they hire Nusi Quero for their costume design for this past episode. The same man being accused of sexual assault by MULTIPLE women.

cringe tf idiotic -_-

Im scrolling through comments while watching the video and I’m so glad I saw this because I can brace myself for that discussion when it comes, as it’s a very uncomfortable topic for me. So thank you. I also appreciate this perspective entirely and agree.

Don't worry. Those of us with any sense see this for how repulsive, unacceptable, and vile it truly is.

You would be surprised how many girls like that, they like choking, they like that spectrum of sexual activity... Of course actual rape is something absolutely different especially around CONSENT but yah. That be rough with me, take advantage of me (again with consent) is a major turn on for girls.... Ask any single man having random sex lol

That said. It's possible those girls have had a rough past... But in the end. It's simply exciting... It's like why some like having sex in public or in places they could be caught

Uhm no, The Weeknd is actually a character!! Abel isn't anything like that. Its just like Marilyn Manson...oh wait 😮

@@getschwifty5271 Joke's on you. Manson IS nothing like that. Evan's story is coming apart.

Agreed, it made me so uncomfortable. the fantasies of the men in control of the script & direction was so transparent and honestly quite sad. It’s unfortunate that Sam Levinson got so much attention out of Euphoria; I hope he sees all of this backlash and really looks inward because watching it is uncomfortable enough - thinking of these scenes, writing them, and bringing them life is twisted

Literally 🤦‍♀️

Naked and masturbating. Naked and being used for someone else’s gratification. Its p0rn with a $70million budget

​@@nkc410I totally agree in fact I hope this show tanks so bad that it costs Sam his position at hbo... he's getting too bold & how the characters seem just designed to fulfill is unconscious desires is so gross & abusive as well as makes a mockery of potentially good actors & what they're actually capable of

​@@nkc410 spoiler: he won't.

its odd cause his wife is a brunette loll

Omg Ive never seen his mom before, bro that's 🤢 also in googling his mom learned he's a nepo baby, which makes all the sense

Wut?????😂😂😂😂😂

wtfff that’s so upsetting 😭😭 i honestly just feel bad for his wife at this point

@@munchiekins she’s just a beard

Under-rated

True

Facts!

Literally

yes d’angelo i need to hear you rip things apart

Yeww

yessss you should omg i can’t believe you got a heart 😱😱

Yessss I would love to watch a this

OMG! You got a heart! So happy for u!! (YES)

Not a single woman has ever said that, not even in a cringy p0rn video.

no exactly. that’s how you know a man wrote the script(he did in fact, write it.). women don’t fantasize about r*pe!! gee i wonder why 🙃

@@RandomSwiftie13 “not even that cringy porn video” 😭 no you’re right

@@RandomSwiftie13 1d fanfics would

Fricking THANK YOU. And people comparing this to cnc makes my want to barf.

That got me to look up what happened with Bryan Singer and damn. That's a disappointing milkshake duck.

Exactly

Contempt is the perfect word for this kind of work. And it begs the question, who fucking asked them how they feel about teenage girls and young women being preyed on in Hollywood.

Well, HBO are to blame here. They were happy to sack the woman making a real show about the subject matter, but Weekend and Sam had a mantrum about it “not being about the men” enough. Take a look at the mock-up concepts and fun this show was having with their interpretation before the female creator was sacked. It’s a Britney Spears/Montana dreamboat and Depp looks like she has life in her eyes. It’s HBO enabling misogyny for their viewers and it’s insulting to everyone for various reasons - but I think it’s traumatising at this point to pretend this is “art” or “entertainment” worth watching.

Dude you don't know the half of it. There was a scene where Lily's character was supposed to carry an egg in her vagina on the behest of Abel's character and he would like rape her if she were to break it. Shit was fucking out there.

This. I was quite shocked by the entire scenario of this stranger coming into a woman's home for the first time and engaging in potentially dangerous acts with her with zero conversation, not before, not during and not after. Really? Bombastic Side-eye, as the cat says.

so well said!!

@@meacelestin it's almost as if that's the point people 😂 Jocelyn is portrayed as reckless, it's on point with her character.

We don't see much of her own sexuality, it's all the male gaze :/ all we know is she likes pain, we don't see what she even likes in the Weeknd's character, she's the sexual object and he's fully clothed at all times

tf is breath play

these men are actually so unbearable it’s insane

Also, that they chose a white woman for this because if you think Hollywood doesn't care about white women then imagine how little they care about women of color.

They’ll capitalize even on their villainy.

God shut tf up. None of this shit just happens to women. God just don't watch the show. Everyone is so soft nowadays.

I saw a tiktok that said selma hayek did a mivie with a guy from friends and there's a scene selma wanted to artistically look in the distance with the friends guy to symbolize their future and maturing love in the movie. But the guy from friends just said no to her creative idea and they did the scene regular. I would say this is an example of women being not taken seriously

Same, and then I felt bad when she was defending them and made the jab at intimacy coordinators. The question this show and lily give me "is it sexual liberation (of women) or the exploitation of a woman's sexuality?" I've realized the difference and it's the latter

Bars.

Oh wow, thank you for sharing your perspective. I'm glad you are no longer in that space anymore, sounds so terribly abusive.

Interesting

@@SleepingDreamer16 Working toxic gigs is nothing new in film. HBO is kinda known to have productions that are peels. I'm happy too, that show was not fun to work on similar to West World, Also a terrible show to work on, I just hope people just stop giving support or attention to these productions because the more talk the more likely they are to still do work if no one puts them in check.

@@SSM654 I loved Season 1 of Westworld, I think became trash after that.

oh my god that makes me wonder how much film he wasted on euphoria s2

100%

Wait, wasn't the euphoria cast mostly minors at the time of airing? I'm not sure it is still airing, but correct me if I'm wrong.

​@@ShaniaT. The actors were in their college/post-college age. The characters are minors though

​@@ShaniaT.not sure but it's definitely about minors 😬

​@@ShaniaT. No? The characters were though, which is a whole thing within itself

let's be fair. that was 8 to 10 years ago though.

​@@brookendale3611 the sobriety nerfed the sex

@@80s_graffiti isnt he like not fully sober tho?

Hello angel 🥸 hello angel 🥸😊

Like 2023 The Weeknd cant act well enough to portray 2011 The Weeknd. thats pretty funny.

like what was he thinking?! that is such a harmful thing to say! it makes it seem like rape can be enjoyable??????

These type of shows LOVEE romanticizing toxic and creepy behaviors 😍

This was intentional… it’s about girls being brainwashed by the patriarchy into thinking they like this sort of behavious. Everything is intentional here people

honestly i wouldn't have put it past him after hearing his lyrics about queer women.

@@ana7icia It could be, but I think in this case it’s too in ur face and disturbing to not be intentional in order to portray how fucked up the society is. In my opinion at least

one of the many downsides of the insane levels of nepotism Hollywood has going on

How dare you?! She is an esteemed actor. Don’t you realize that her career path was similar to that of a doctor’s??

@@nataliafan14uh oh

@@nataliafan14 lmaoo that wild ass quote what was she thinking

@@clenelynwait is this a real quote? Can someone explain the background to this story?

I mean, with the kind of ego he has shown behind the scenes, I don't know if he has the humility to really dedicate himself to mastering the craft of acting.

Don't read my name!!.

not the debby ryan pfp lmao

Cannot emphasize this enough lol

exactly 💀💀💀😭

It's the song Shameless from an old album too 😅 ngl I realize alot of his music is about exploited women in the world of fame....he put a nice melody over it and we missed all the red flags

And those contractor's are SO IMPORTANT especially when it comes to Hollywood otherwise it would get so dark so fast for many of the young girls who want to be actors.

Sam told on himself

Unpopular opinion but I took from that scene that the point was to show that no matter how many steps the Industry takes to be legit, the people working there (joss's team) are such grifters and hustler that its never gonna make a difference

Exactly, they are literally filming in the MC’s house. They can bring a photographer back in 2 days. Instead the answer is to assault and traumatise the intimacy coordinator?

​@@bees.857👉🏽👃🏽

Old Hollywood pervs

I saw an ad with Jennie on tiktok and assumed it was about her playing an idol because of the name

the naming really felt lazy. considering the definitions and connotations of "idol", they could have woven it into a commentary about celebrity culture (like the show was apparently supposed to). its impressive how much potential was wasted in this entire fiasco.

He definitely over estimated his acting skills 😬 ...the critics so far are spot on

fr he acts like he’s waiting for someone on tiktok to make a thirst edit of him and honestly it’s excruciating

@@allief3110 LITERALLY 😭😭😭 have u seen the videos of him at the cannes festival 💀💀 he was so obviously trying soooo hard to look hot for the cameras to go viral on tiktok it’s soo funny 😭😭😭😭

@@allief3110lmaoooo bruh this comment is sending me, it’s so accurate 💀

The Weeknd kinda misunderstood what made him attractive to start with. It could be just me but he was never the hot and mysterious type

LMFAOOOOO REALL

NO BUT YOU'RE SO RIGHT, he give me tumblr edgy vibes.

Lmaoooo

@@katet8639 it’s even worse than Tumblr edgy, it’s more like Twitter dark humor 💀💀💀

​@Kate T like he is one of those adult child who cried when Tumblr forbid nudity on their site.

I totally empathize with this, I wanted to take a shower after watching the first ep. It was awful.

Yes, this feels icky. I always thought Euphoria also felt very icky and couldn't get through it.

it's been a long time since my last time being S3xually Harrased and luckyly i could go through the 2nd episode, but that doesn't change the fact that i feel grossed out. I had to detach my mind from what i was watching and intencionally laugh about it. It's a totally exploitative show.

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

THIS even as a satire whats so funny about a guy being a predator like what was that this comment trying to achieve I cannot wrap my head around how was this funny in any universe. The last scene of the first ep was vile, the Weekend seemed WAY too into it for my own comfort, like is this even him acting anymore? Does he want to hurt and degrade women? Do they have any self awareness at all this is the opposite of being edgy or cool or different or anything they think this is

That sounds very accurate.

A user called SHANLIE a few comments under yours said actress Sydney Sweeney had to change her contract on the second season to stop her exposed body being shown so much. You are totally right on the money.

Malcolm & Marie included a random rant about a critic who Sam felt personally slighted by, so I'm convinced he just likes using his characters as mouthpieces for certain industry topics so I wouldn't be surprised

not true. just a plot. if it’s real then he would not film it and show it to people

I'd put a good 50 on it at least

I actually JUST realized that this show is basically the premise of a majority of his music.....like his old music and new is giving the vibe that it's about exploited or "lost" women seeking fame or something like that. Bit shamed I didn't see it sooner but I don't really listen to him anymore since Starboy 😅

"Wanna fuck a skinny model right before her runway show" "Did an album just to do it, droppin' albums like a pill Percocets, Adderall, ecstasy, pussy, money, weed" "Dick made out of magic, my tongue got superpowers I woke up in the mornin', models passed out in the shower" All of these are from the same song lol The Idol is just Drunk in Love the show

god is real fr🙏🏽

Praise God, She heard you 🙏

and god heard 🙏

times like these

your prayers have been answered. now if the powers would just listen to Jenny Nicholson requests life would be sublime

This!! Also smth I hate in horror movies is the ridiculous shock factor. Oh no how horrible the animal died for no reason at all! Let's zoom in on the corpse bc that's totally needed. Let's show a girl getting, almost getting, or implied to be getting SA'd bc that's totally needed! And then it does nothing for the rest of the story?? Learn how to make a good movie goddamn. That shock factor shit just immediately depletes the quality in my opinion

⁠@@Bunny-ft9dys! Too focused on getting the wrong type of reactions. Anyone can shoot a jumpscare, real writing builds the terror and makes the audience uneasy even when the monster isn’t onscreen. The cheap shots and gore are all just overcompensation for shitty, soulless writing. I love a great horror movie but can’t stand the torture porn that some really are. Except for maybe Saw because Jigsaw’s storyline was a bit intriguing

@@Bunny-ft9dy Exactly.

@@Bunny-ft9dyliterally stephen king books in a nutshell ☠️☠️☠️

This fr. Like you cant have corny and serious. Not without making each abundantly clear in those moments. And they could have uneasy, but they go about it so horribly. Theres a way to make the viewers uneasy and tackle serious issues without making it seem like the weekend is just playing out some kind of fantasy of his which is what this feels like. Is just him and sam playing out some kind of fantasy. Maybe if they played it like his character was good at manipulating people, i could believe that and understand that and the message, but instead they just brought DOWN depp’s character. I dont know a single woman in my life that would like “rapey” vibes or even say “yeah i kinda like that about him” and then proceed to invite said person over when their friend explicitly said they thought that about that person and clearly are uncomfortable with said person. It all just feels so fucking gross.

FR I LOVE THIS GUY 😂😂😂😂

i have a feeling sam levinson always introduces himself with "i'm sam levinson have s3x with me now the countries with the lowest age of c0ns3nt are......"

Euphoria showed this side too 🤢

bro be proving frued right by sexualizing women who bear a good resemblance to his mom 💀💀

sam is going through his wattpad phase that he missed by making this crap

Lmao

That is... quite a leap you make there, but whatever. Especially considering these actresses also gushed about how collaborative he was and how safe/protected they felt on set. But hey, narratives can't push themselves.

I don't know, this show sucks but this is like a crazy reach lol

@@grasstoucher2564 looks like we found levinson on his burner account

​@@grasstoucher2564 I don't have background info on the euphoria case specifically, but I do know that sometimes people will defend the predatory people when they're locked into a contract (like some of the GoT cast). So publicly, they might say "yeah it's fine, I feel great!" but keep in mind, they're trying to pay their bills with these shows

such a good point

I’m gonna follow Sam levinson path.

@Hkamerica273 um??

@@onemillionpercent I want to make something like euphoria and the idol in the future. my dream project

@@onemillionpercent issa really bad troll, don’t worry

For him, intimacy coordinators are in the way, so he projects that onto others as well

THANK YOU!!!! I got in an argument with my friends when I said the same thing.

🙄 exactly

AT-LEAST show me a cock! Granted, no-one should be objectified, but if you're going to do it, just go whole-hog with it and objectify everybody.

Omg THIS

UP!!

Saying "she's not Johnny's daughter, she's Vanessa's daughter" is quite narrowminded and despicable. She's just as much Johnny's daughter, and of course most people in France have supported Johnny, as they rightfully should. And you know that.

@@luv4hutch ???

@@luv4hutch idk if I'm misreading this but I think op was trying to say that everyone in the US sees Lily-Rose Depp as Johnny Depp's daughter, but in France Lily is Vanessa Paradis' daughter and they think it's funny. no one was saying anything about Lily not being Johnny's kid, just that in France she's recognised as Vanessa's child instead 😋👍

@@saltedfishoyeah I’ve seen someone else say this too

@@luv4hutch aw sorry my english is not very good I did not mean it in that way, I meant when I think about Lily-Rose I think about her as Vanessa Paradis' daughter. Because I've always known Vanessa Paradis, even before knowing who Johnny Depp was. So it's king of weird to think about Lily-Rose as Johnny Depp's daughter, but of course she is I'm not saying otherwise. It's just a cultural thing I suppose 😅

This show had potential to make a really strong commentary and dignify the irl victims ... things went south with the production I guess

Beep bop... I'm the Philosophy Bot. Here, have a quote: "We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light" ~ Plato

as a sa child survivor I agree, but does every show have to be a meaningful portrayal or strength? Surely the main character is allowed to have a voice and we don't have a reason to believe she had her consent violated do we? I understand that misogyny in media is terrible but isn't one bad or problematic sexually charged show just that? maybe I am missing something.

​@Puerto Rican VEGAN Musician Socialist thank u some people just want entertainment, not everything needs a message behind it.

@@angelg8445 interesting perspective but I was just staying mine and i understand where your coming from

absolutely, i never watched euphoria or any sam levinson works for this reason. realistically im only one viewer, but i sleep better knowing i dont (at least directly) contribute to encouraging genuinely bad media production

Yeah hate watchers are definitely pushing this show forward. The same thing happened with that Thelma show that got a second season due to all of the press attention and hate watching. Hopefully this show doesn’t get the same treatment but only time will tell.

absolutely this is why i hate hate watchers. the producers don't care its hated as long as its making them money. one of the best ways to Make it these days is to make people mad.

​@@hattarapilviI want to watch this show so I can have my own opinion. I don't think that's bad

Except this was made by a black man. Nice try being racist though

A marvelous idea ❤

Don't read my name!!..

I was on the bus and literally laughed audibly when he showed the clip 💀

​@@oDM0othat happens to me all the time. Bursting out in laughter at something I'm watching or listening to on the bus. Often the bus is packed. I watched this one in bed but guaranteed if I'd been on a bus I'd have burst out laughing.

I thought that too. It gave me the biggest ick. Like he didnt even defend it besides saying it was meant to be provocative. He could've said "it is provocative, but it's also about the self destructive of egos and the importance of very needed conversation of the exploitation of artists, musicians, models, actors, etc., especially the young ones, who need to be used for their contribution to the arts, and not just used for their attractiveness." But, honestly, he would just be lying because he knows damn well the steaming pile of poop they made, and that it's just shock value with no substance, boring and overexaggerted characters that exist within a gross fantasy landscape.

ikr!? remember Olivia Wilde?

i think its provocative and boundary pushing in the worst interpretation of the phrase. like, zero consent.

Ikr it’s like the equivalent of teachers bragging about how their class average has never been more than 50%

Oh yes!!!

They just managed to kludge together all of their ideas during a cocaine-fueled Weeknd lol

only had a week left? more like they only had a Weekend

😂😂

​@@pvic6959kkkkk

ikr like just leave the film and writing to the ACTUAL writers pleeeeeaaassee 😭😭

he really thought just because he directed his music videos it would translate into a whole show or film 💀

so true riddlussy

As they said the “college educated internet people” are kinda their rivals sooo 💀💀

Lmao true

Agreed

Why would a flagship HBO show be brushed aside?

​@@ImpaktNY they're referring to criticism of the show, not the show itself

​@@ImpaktNY mainly due to the general adoration for The Weekend. I thought the love for certain celebs may overshadow the issues with this show!

@@daalimbe Why would criticism of a flagship HBO show be brushed aside. All of them are criticized.

No you’re definitely right, however it’s funny seeing some of the kpoppies talking about the show being bad for sexualizing women and treating them like shit (WHICH IT IS) but these are the same ones I see slutshame women on a daily. It’s just a little bit hypocritical and ironic. This show is absolute ass though and creepy like who tf keeps letting this nasty ass man make shit?

Your right but most people were not such intellectuals, they weren't really criticizing they were legit talking jabs at jennie under the guise of criticism

Unfortunately, some of the fandom might see it as "This is one of Jennie's chances to shine as an actress, and you're attacking that chance by calling it bad," which will get them defensive. The rate at which mob opinion spreads and narratives become "truths" only weakens any chance of combating that.

It's not even Hollywood... It's a HBO show🤦🏻‍♀ There's a massive difference. HBO shows are supposed to be top tear stuff. Not this garbage.

jennie got casted after sam levinson became the director she said herself that she loves his works she's not innocent lol 💀

all for the sake of some fucked up male power fantasy....

Completely agree

​@SaltyAndGreasy Hollywood doing Hollywood things

@SaltyAndGreasybecause it could have been a good way to showcase how misogynistic Hollywood is. Instead it’s turned into whatever this is

Before all the issues with the show I heard that it would be kinda inspired by Keith raniere and the nxivm cult. I thought it would be interesting to see a show explore how a charismatic leader pursues vulnerable people to create their cult and how it could even happen to celebrities in the public eye. It’s a shame that the show’s production became an environment for the abuse of power when that’s what the show’s narrative could have discussed.

truth!

Don't read my name!!

and his singing voice apparently? wasn't expecting that ending lmaooooo

@@LunaMoon70 Why are we not talking about this?! Lmaooo!

yesss, i was admiring his fit the whole video!!

He also maybe wanted to fuck Joselyne... And this gave hime the leeway to do it

Glad he’s revealing what a terrible messed up person he is I guess

The original director had the far better idea, in my opinion. In order for you to care about characters like this (vapid, filthy rich, dubiously talented), there needs to be some exposition on character background. Ok, we know her mom died and she likes to wear skimpy clothes. But that's it. We know nothing else about her. There's no character development. The original director sounded like she wanted to tell more of the story from Joslyn's point of view and really dig into the motivations of the character, rather than focus on long, lingering shots of Jos's naked/near naked body.

@JKyall yes that's what it sounds like. That's probably why Jennie signed on. I heard it was basically a story of one of these kpop stars(or any new female stars) up and coming struggles without doing a reality show. It just sounds like The Weekend wanted a show for a character he probably has always wanted to play, maybe a inner dark person of himself, and didn't want anyone to get in the way of that priority

@@kstar1489listen to his music, he’s been telling you for years

This irony is quite delicious

Don't read my name!!

Well I'm not watching this trash so I'll take your word for it

The original showrunner, Amy Seimetz, was gonna make something very similar to what you just talked about. Thing is, Mr. The Weeknd thought the show had too much "female perspective", so he pulled the plug on the whole production just as it was about to finish. They had to reshoot the whole damn show, only this time under the perverted watch of Levinson Jr. If you can, go and read the Rolling Stone article on the show's production, shit was wild.

This is also just a trend I’ve noticed in shows specifically like Euphoria too. Just, it’s a choice to create art like this,,,

Look, i like the weekends songs, but, as a woman, the lyrics make me happy that im never meeting the weekend irl. He sounds like a pretty bad person, especially to women, but yea, his music is fun

Same, ever since the rumors about this series started to come out I just got the ick every time I heard one of his songs from my playlist 😭

I've been listening to his music since forever and honestly he's always been like this. His music even tho good it's extremely misogynistic :///

There was also that one song that said he can change bisexual women with his "prowess."

if anything the show glorifies everything it claims to critique, not surprised, it's Hollywood.

Right in my face..

Don't read my name!!

@@Dont_Read_My_Picture Holy shit, I've never gotten a spam bot on one of my comments before. Somehow, I feel honored.

@@undyingUmbrage413 Congrats, dude!

@@undyingUmbrage413 You should get a cake to commemorate it or something

unhinged is a soft way to put absolutely misogynistic. thats just disgusting

I'm sorry but what the fuck ain't no way!

Wtf what’s wrong with them!! And lily for complying with it🤦🏽‍♀️

This is literally just corn misogynistic gross nasty corn for dudes who like seeing women get hurt and lily is so gross for still wanting to act in it

yeah, I think it was scripted but like you said, they realized it would be wayyyyy too unethical to actually shoot, so it was cut

The LAUGH this got out of me.

I had to play that part back because he was so smooth with the delivery

Don't read my name!!.

I ran it back to hear it again it was that good hahah

I died at this line aghaghaghagh 😂😂😂😂

Also - teenagers aren't (generally speaking) sex monsters in real life. Why can't any of these kids be shown finding self-actualization by collecting squishmallows or torturing Sims characters (like teens do in real life)?

​@@cussedcat28 Sadly they overdramatize the "teen" life, it doesn't even feel like the characters are in high school anymore. Most teens don't do this type of stuff, yes they can have sex, yes they can do drugs but it's mostly college and frat party shit and it's DEFINITELY not to the extent that happens in the show most of the time(minus rues addiction that is very very real and common). How in the world are they getting the money for the drugs? It's never stated they have jobs and I definitely don't see any scenes of rue doing a 9-5 to pay for them. On top of that, majority of the main women of the cast are wearing clothes that would be completely against regular dress code and are high sexualized, this is a especially apparent in Cassie as she mostly wears clothes that show her cleavage (again this is supposed to be a high schooler) Sam wants to sexualize them as much as possible and it's honestly to the point where it's perverted imo... Again it is true that there are women out there who are in Cassie predicament but that won't justify him putting a high schooler in this situation. And then there's nothing said about school work or any school life for that matter. The show doesn't even try to balance it even though it would've been interesting to see rue to start failing her classes due to her depression its very real and can be super repeatable to people like myself who feel like there isn't a point anymore and just give up. it's just sex, drugs and drama theres no teachers in sight, no people regulating anything in the school everyone else is just there. Obviously the show doesn't have to be realistic but if you're going to be putting your characters in a high school setting at least have them act like they're in high school. If anything they'd be trying to hide everything from their parents even more if they truly wanted to be realistic but the show puts almost every parent on the back burner and completely forgets abt them.

Thank you! Sam Levinson needs to be stopped

Thank you another euphoria disliker lmao

The difference with Euphoria is that, especially in season 1 the show is really good and season 2 also has very good acting sequences.