Thanks man

LY!

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Art imitates life. Poor Weeknd! 🙄

The movie Gone girl is awesome in that.The main charachter uses preconceived ideas about women and uses that in her favor but the movie makes it clear,the main girl is the villain yet a very clever one .

There was a review that said The Idol happened because someone watched Gone Girl on a plane once and completely missed the point.

Gone Girl is my favorite movie of all time and Gillian Flynn is my favorite author. There's a reason why Gone Girl works and that's because Amy is a super duper psychopath that manipulates the reader until the big reveal; before you find out about her, you actually feel kind of bad, but the reason why the reveal works in Gone Girl and not in The Idol is that Amy Dunne is an unreliable narrator and we only see her at first through her diary. In The Idol, we see how abusive Tedros is and there's nothing to indicate at any point that Jocelyn was an unreliable narrator like Amy. It's stupid.

she was never abused on screen, pay closer attention

It also makes you wonder about why Sam and Abel think an article coming out about the past history of abuse is the worst thing that could happen to Tedros.

This I agree with 💯

like when Cosby drugged those women who already. consented to bang him because he's really into dead people. vindicated! that guy is walking because those hoes were trying to squeeze a famous black guy who they now don't want to f. oh well

Andrew Tate mentality. We are headed to Sodom and Gomorrah

​@@bowenarrows7819he didn't even went to jail LIKE

Sexism disguised as feminism, basically.

Never let Sam Levinson cook

It's rare to see misogyny this overt outside of incel forums

is euphoria also like this? what does he do on that show, cause here i think he directed but somehow his two shows have vastly different critical receptions

@@highdefinition450in euphoria maddie falsely accused a man of r word.

i think she may be based on chloe cherry who played faye in euphoria. she was hypersexual from a young age and joined the porn industry just after turning 18 but also has a very childlike vibe :( and sam allegedly cast her because he was a fan of her porn videos. the actresses also kinda look like each other. it all feels like too much to be a coincidence

i completely agree, i thought that whole thing was so unneeded and gross 😭😭😭

Really because that’s happening everywhere. Teen models and “influencers” are getting paid a lot of money to help brainwash young girls. These Disney and pre-teen shows are being filled with storylines of young horny dumb teenage boys, “mature” girls, and absent guardians/adults. The whole rise of girl KPop groups, anime, etc is based on Asian rape culture. Most of the girls in these girl groups look young as hell, and barely have any clothes on the entire time they are on stage. We gotta stop having selective outrage. If we’re gonna take a stand on censorship and morality, let’s atleast be consistent with it. Both of Lily Depps parents are successful entertainers, and people are acting like she’s being victimized. I’m so sick of people crying “victim” on behalf of people who are getting filthy rich to sell lies. It’s gross

​@@OakCliffTX82"based on asian rape culture" friend that is pure, uncut, FDA certified american rape culture. "girls exist to have babies as young as possible therefore should be wantable and treated as wantable as kids" is an idea our most politically entrenched religious groups push, its american religious leaders who lobby against junk like minimum marriage ages

It's also an example of the Lolita effect. How the book Lolita has been misinterpreted in film so badly that it impacted a whole generation and created the Lolita character trope.

I SWEAR. especially the hairbrush scene like if she wasn’t abused all along then why did the other characters confirm that she was

"everyone was a g-g-ghost!"

The murderer was actually…THE DETECTIVE!

Omg I’m dying. Hahah. Like what was the point of this show

Honestly, "and then I woke up" plot would probably be an improvement because then these events would have never happened and just would have been a weird feaver dream

For what?

At the *very* least a professional needs to take a peek at his hard drive….. *and* his basement.

@@dontthinktohard3991 What do you think??

@@tunafish5462they dont think too hard 🤣

@@dontthinktohard3991you really live up to ur username 🙃 it ain’t rocket science

give us the destiny cut we deserve

Omg it would be so goof

Yeah, with some dry humor 👌🏽

@@notebeans3134 #releasethedestinycut

Dude... No joke, I NEED this now!! 💯

men who make a career off sexualizing women who are vulnerable and being preyed on by gross men are not to be trusted ever!!!

I have a friend whose wife is into rape fantasy/role play. I have had this discussion with them both more than once. During sex, she asks him to talk about other women he finds sexy. He makes stuff up about women at the gym, to his discomfort, because she gets turned on by it. I’ve been at the gym with him, and have heard her call him multiple times telling him she doesn’t trust him and he’s probably with that “whore from the gym”. It’s to the point where he pretends to take gym selfies, because he doesn’t want me to know he’s really trying to get proof I was at the gym with him. The same woman quit her job, told him she wanted another baby, talked him into taking a truck driving job because it makes more money… and now blames him that she’s home by herself with the kids and they are broke. Y’all can miss me with the notion that some people aren’t manipulative and calculated and play the victim, because I know better. Just like some celebrities get paid millions to sell a fake, unattainable idea of beauty & sex. They are co-conspirators in the system that over sexualizes young girls… then, when they get washed up they write tell-all books about how THEY were the real victim, and people forced them to do it. At some point Brook Shields was posting sexy bikini pics with her teenage daughter… years before Pretty Baby was released. At some point there was a choice, there always is. The show never portrayed him as a “victim”, he just got played at the end. The media & viewers started saying that to discredit the show. Abel has even said that the character is “a sleazy guy” who is getting a small taste of what he deserves, and that Hollywood is full of people like that. Y’all acting like these two guys are glorifying the bad guy when they aren’t. Yet it’s funny that we fail to mention how very credible actors have said Lilly has a whole team making sure the sex scenes are safe, asking her if she’s comfortable, and limit who’s on set during the filming of those scenes. But we victimize those actors too and say “they have to do/say that to keep their jobs”. People are ridiculous. Maybe the directors bias as a female kept her from seeing the artistic angle they were trying to take?

someone needs to check their text history and hard drives 👀

@@Jane-oz7pp”okay, someone check Linda’s hard drive!”

And young girls are watching this content over and over again and internalising the message that rough s*x is the only way

It smells like he's definitely trying to get ahead of something coming his way... Like he's building a narrative so when it inevitably happens to him he can refer to his own shows and say: Look! Women lie all time! Source: trust me bro

I was gonna say, it’s giving I’ve committed SA but I’m tryna make it look normal

FR, it feels like he's telling on himself or possible coworkers or friends. He'd be the type to hang out or be one of those people. And the whole Tedros character becoming the "victim" at the end is just a desperate pity party for these type of people to convince themselves that they're not in the wrong cause their twisted point of view of everything

I find the part in euphoria where 14yo maddy was "in control" when having sex with 40 year old men even more sus

@@sodiumsodiumsodium1109 Exactly spot on what I was thinking as soon as I saw this comment.

+

Im pretty sure that was bogus...thats why he said i went to prison for this shit

@@theguitarfather1837 ahhhh so ALL women are out to get tedros..

That's why this feels the fantasy of an abuser. Let's keep an eye on Levinson.

@@lordfreerealestate8302 Exactly. It's the fantasy of an abuser to believe the woman wanted to be abused for fame or whatever and he's the victim for it. Like wtf

I wrote a comment on another YTer's commentary channel about the show, saying "putting my two cents in because this show is a direct effect of y'all glorifying Euphoria and all of its gross oversexualizatons of the teenage experience, and purposefully choosing to ignore its harms because it has Zendaya and pretty makeup," and people were BUTTHURT lmfaoooo.

as problematic as Euphoria was, it was at least coherent.

@@rachel5399 Probably because it’s not. Like Euphoria being problematic as hell doesn’t make its fans directly responsible for shit like this, especially when media like The Idol and Euphoria have been around FOREVER, and Euphoria is neither the most elevated example (though it’s probably the most currently known) nor the one that kickstarted this trend. Levinson has been pulling crap like this for ages, and people have been glorifying and romanticizing abuse and exploitation for decades, if not *centuries*. Is Euohoria an example of this? For sure. But pinning all, or honestly even *most*, of the blame on Euphoria and it’s fandom is ignorant at best and a gross level of misinformation and generalization at worst. It’s like saying Dexter directly led to hybristophilia, or 13 Reasons Why directly led to the glorification of suicide. Both of those are twisting, winding roads that go far *far* back. Pinning the blame on a singular show and it’s fandom is ludicrous, and given how long Levinsons been pulling this shit, I’m fairly certain The Idol or something similar would have happened even if Euphoria had bombed.

THANK YOU. I for the life of me could not understand why some of my friends were obsessed with this show when it first came out. Then I realized the only friends who really liked it had never experienced the kind of shit I had glimpsed while hanging out with them while watching the show. They weren't raised around violence and sexual abuse so I guess it was just entertaining to them whereas a lot of the scenes gave me a huge pit in my stomach.

@@rachel5399 While the experience of being a teen is a highly sexual one, fetishizing teen's suffering and making it all about sex is not okay

Me too, considering the fact that false accusations are literally super super rare and real abuse victims don't even come out and yet only a few are punished, this is wild

Do you guys really think that those morals are what the show is actively trying to push? Or is just a weird passion project that The Weeknd and Levinson were super into? I feel like people are reading into this soooooo much more than was intended. It just seems like a bit too much.

@@genericsocks7542 Probably not, but does it matter? If a show were weirdly super racist, would it make it better if the creators didn't mean to push that message and it's just what naturally sprung up from their imaginations?

NGL, false accusations are probable (Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard, which may be why Lilly Rose Depp didn't mind much, tho I may be wrong considering I'm not a social dude). But this show DID seem like a n abuser's wet dream abt "playing the victim". Edit: even if what I said was somewhat true, Amy's story would've been more compelling than wtf Sammy boi did to it 😑

@@shadmanhasan4205no, they aren’t probable, they make up less than 3% of reported r*pes and result in women being jailed, not men.

Make it make sense...

I KNOW LMAO

The characterization is so bizarre and inconsistent. I mean I guess he betrayed her. But like... yeah.

10:29 The “DaFAQ?!?” I just screamed is so unreal😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣

I actually think they all lied to manipulate him and Xander was in and lied too, so yeah she manipulated Xander too but at least its not that bad

hahaha exactly!

How did ANYONE approve this sick shot is what baffled me

@@peaceflowerstudios6833people need to stop giving levinson the green light to do what he wants whenever he wants. He doesn’t write women well, doesn’t write relationships well, and that’s an understatement.

Seriously dude! Well said. I cant fucking BELIEVE they put this out lacking this much self awareness. Its baffling to me how the weekend doesnt seem to understand how the show discredits everything he said it was supposed to portray

weeknd is playing that "bout to be exposed" game :P

It's almost as if the thing they fear is an article coming out detailing abuse...🤔

Tortured, artistic female mc - but not like that tho

Correction: Media: “we do not want female perspective…..we want titties. That is all. Watch my show please.”

@@acciousername6776probably wasn’t “sexy” enough

@@sunniwithani right, its so miserable

Right, what kinda excuse even is "too much female perspective" like at this point just say that you wanted h**ny stuff

It's really off-putting to me that Abel thought he needed to _explain_ that Tedros is a villain you're supposed to hate. He and Levinson just have absolutely _zero_ grasp on why people hate this show so much - they think people don't "get" what they're trying to do. We do get it. We just don't _like_ it. It's like what happened with Cuties - you can't criticize the exploitation of performers _by exploiting your performers._

Exactly.

Yeah it contradicts the whole point of this show. What was supposed to be a story about the exploitation women face in the industry by predatory execs/producers, turned into a show about a predatory producer being the “victim”???

Agreed. Its also pretty misogynistic because its always the womans fault, right?

Welcome to "Euphoria Guy writes stuff"

34:44 THANK YOU!!! You covered it. And I hadn’t seen anyone else criticizing this part.

I mean have you ever heard of Chris Delia, Louis CK, R. Kelly, Michael Jackson?? This happens irl all the time

Some fans will never care what their favorites do and will put blinders on Chris Brown is still doing well for himself and still has a large fan base, even though we all know what he's done to Rihanna and his other gfs. Nicki Minaj still has a good career and large fan base even though she married a convicted sex offender Colleen Ballinger, Shane Dawson, James Charles, the list goes ever on

U really think people who PAID to watch you would care that u are marrying a pimp and walk out? That's just idealist. People are still scared to call out Taylor Swift for her racist bigot bf

It tracks with people's attitudes.

1000% yes

Oh yea and women lie about being abused for attention 😬

Yeah Tedros is totally the victim because he shocked and tortured others, verbally abuse, does shit w no consent. And Jocelyn is the bad guy because … she’s slightly mean to him.

It's like Mr Weeknd himself had it in his contract that he needed a redemption arc, and instead they just decided to make everyone around his character worse as if that justifies his whole deal.

@@Thepriestessdeath You implying it doesn't happen?

explains why the weekend is taking it personally that people dont like the show

Weeknd isn't exactly known for his understanding of how females and relationships in general. I'll never forget the time I stumbled across his Lost in the Fire song. He has a segment where he claims a woman told him she's going through a phase of dating women and then suggests that they both have sex with him. At the very least he comes across like a sleazy guy at a bar who thinks he's super funny and interesting.

@@i_Lupercalia_iyikes

​@@i_Lupercalia_idamn ewww

@@i_Lupercalia_i”The weeknd” is actually just a character that Abel tesfaye plays in his music I don’t think you should take the lyrics too serious it’s all in the name of entertainment… if you watch interviews of him he comes across as really shy and timid… but anyway who knows

Or maybe he found a niche that made him money

​@matthewdanko4064 really? He found a niche... a niche he actually sucks at writing about. Most of the shit is weird

@@TheBetterlife101 doesn't matter of its wierd, ppl love Euphoria

@@matthewdanko4064 mostly the first season if I'm correct, I've seen people not really like Season 2 since that's when they didn't have much source material to keep adapting and.. apparently it blows.

They may have loved it at first but then it went downhill.

This isn't weird, it's disturbing and it's a clear example of grape culture. This type of media helps people mentally excuse and justify things that real life men do to real life women and girls. Sam is a predator who literally exploits women for money. So is the Weekend. Let's be clear.

Idk how people can watch a show like Euphoria and pretend it’s not misogynistic or exploitative.

its that freakish logic of abusers, especially pdf files, that their victims are knowingly seducing them and are actually co-conspirators with them to make the "relationship" happen. the "she knows what shes doing" line, directed at literal children. these goddamn mongrel perverts are so self-centered that even their unreciprocated fetishization must actually be part of a grand plot where every living person orbits their ego.

Lolita fantasy is a problem.

Omg, this is awful.

Yep. Sam Levinson maybe has some Me Too ghosts in his closet?

​@@thisismyyoutube1846100% chance Levinson should be investigated.

But remember - they said this show has a feminist message! Raising awareness! (sarcasm)

Right

PLSSSS I LOVE THIS COMMENT

I was thinking he looked like a ken doll too so cute

Tetris! 🤣

@@SecondTake123 It was autocorrect's fault but I'll keep it up.

@@sourrycherry 🤣

And I didn’t even notice the difference lol

Same!!! I saw people online talking about the ending and about how she supposedly flipped the script on him by being the mastermind to victimize him, and I was immediately like, "yeah, not surprised," but then I watched a few commentary videos about it and I was so confused because the hairbrush being new was really the only insinuation that she lied? I thought the same thing, that she bought a new one to symbolize how she is now taking control of her life? You have multiple characters hinting that her mother was indeed, an abusive piece of work, and her brushing her hair violently, for...nothing? Then they basically get back together anyways, so what does he truly lose? Not only is it stupid as hell, but her plot twist/redemption arc was so bland and not even serving the purpose of redemption? So we have 5 hours worth of episodes, with him abusing her friends and staff, practically r*ping her, taking over her decisions, finances, music, and entire life, for her to..embarrass him on stage? She's so smart and badass that she risks her friends and crew getting sexually assaulted, staff being fired, and her reputation going further down the drain, but she suddenly gets a clear head that's set on revenge when she finds out that he knew her friend? Even though her friend took her to his club in the first place? They did not even try. My lord.

Super late to this but I couldn't figure out how he didn't realize it was new when he beat the hell out of her with it earlier in the show??

also… how would he even know that it’s brand new?? did it have a fucking price tag on it? unless it quite literally was so clean that it had obviously not touched hair before - that would have still meant the brush in scenes before was not new. so then it wouldn’t make sense that the audience is supposed to interpret it as jocelyn having lied the whole time, right? but then they don’t make an effort to show it having meant something else, like symbolic of her “moving on” or something, so it’s just… confusing.

It's only a matter of time before a flood of accusations come his way honestly. With his track record, it's quite telling what his opinions are when it comes to sexual abusers and their victims so I wouldn't be surprised if he had a bunch of skeletons in his closet

​@@Asmax120What do you mean by this.. Are you defending the show?

That line in euphoria really stuck with me man it was so gross and weird!!!

THAT WAS IN EUPHORIA???? EWWWW 🍅 🍅 🍅

@@spectre9340 I'll be honest lol I have the gut feeling for some people to be exposed for problematic behavior and both the Sams are on my list (Levinson and Smith) also a couple of weirdos like Brent Rivera. Actually sometimes I worry the entire millenial yt bubble will get called out one by one (Shane to Colleen to James Charles and stuff).

LMAO

EXACTLY THIS

and then everyone stood up and clapped

At least your twist did not completely contradict the previously established events, lmao. At least "actually it was all a dream" isn't literally impossible

Ahahahhaha been there

100% agree. This show was just The Weeknd telling on himself

Have you heard his music? He was always a womanizer.

​@@Hagarisma womanizer? an abuser more like

@@jacksonelh I get this show is bad and all but come on why do you make assumptions like that 💀

@@Daria_Z0S its literally all he sings about im not jumping to anything. being a drug addicted toxic abusive partner is his entire brand image

i completely agree with you, but i'd like to point out that it's really weird and late-capitalism of americans to feel as if Social Justice is an offensive term lol

100% AGREE!

Totally agree!

It’s classic darvo

@@jujuba1450 it’s like woke, the right wing started using it and suddenly it’s somehow a bad thing smfh 🚶🏻‍♀️ tho at least SJW isn’t AAVE, nothing will ever be as obnoxious as a racist calling u woke for pointing out their bs 🤦🏻‍♀️

Right, I wonder, though, is Sam is going to have such a career with little scrutiny about assault because of how much people are calling him out. Ofc I think he’ll still have one because there are so many people in charge who love what (and who) Sam also does, and his mindless aesthetic that he carries out with little regard to the story

Sam Levinson is definitely self-reporting here

@@edeniseating He is still going to have a career sadly. His dad is a director.

​@@Mel-nw2kohis dad is a 'good' director. Huge difference.

@@bees.857 difference in what? i'm saying Sam despite having bad movies and shows is still going to have a career cause he is a nepobaby.

And considering who her father is…🤢

You basically described Mia Farrow!

he IS the Barbie girl.

Like how do you just show us 1/4 of the outfit and not the whole thing?

He looks so good😤🔥 I love how he mixed the different shades of pink😭🔥

RIGHTT

This isn't a Barbie look! How dare you. It's quite obvious that Barbie has the D'Angelo look

Thing is supposedly, he was trying to manipulate and control Jocelyn the entire time, so it’s not even like “oh she’s actually evil and nefarious.” It’s more like, “she’s a weirdo who deliberately leads on sex offenders for musical inspiration.” Which sure, isn’t the greatest hobby, but Tedros had every intention of treating her like shit, and her actions meant he failed to do so, she still was in control, and the things she did to him are so much more mundane compared to what he would’ve done to her. The only thing he’s a victim of is being lied to, and having it be revealed that she didn’t care about him as much as he had hoped which meant he couldn’t control her entire life.

omg so well said, shout this from the rooftops !!!

🤣🤣

that’s so funny tho 😂😂😂 why couldn’t they have just faked a concert?

They didn’t let the audience know what was going on?

@@tanzilatabassum4165 Nope. There was signs warning us that we were being filmed but we didn’t really know exactly when. When she came out on stage the whole crowd got excited thinking The Weeknd was gonna finally start but it was her saying random lines which made no sense at the time lol The scene with her kissing him on stage didn’t even happen in real life. She just said the lines and left stage, he wasn’t there kissing her.

Wow, this is so weird 😂😂😂 like why do they not explain it, lmfao

Ew ew ew ew ew ew so much ew.

BRO THATS IN EUPHORIA?? WTFF

@@stonks3507 yeah. So fucked up. But Euphoria fans are like next-level defensive lunatics. Say something bad about the show and they will come at you with full force. I did once on Reddit for calling Sam Levison out and I literally got told to go kill myself.

I don't think that was meant to be literal. When rue narrated that she was in control it may have been implying she "felt" in control, even though she was not. Possibly because of her confidence from a young age and possibly as a way to cope after the fact. Not defending sam levinson but euphoria does have an unreliable narrator that says fucked and untrue things

​@darksouls2isthebestgameeve470 I agree. I'm not defending Sam either, but I always took it the same way. And I sadly knew a lot of girls as a teen who would sleep with older guys and say something similar. It's sad, but it isn't entirely unrealistic.

I love his monochromatic cashier fit

It’s serving black barbie hair flip realness

No

I love this funky new style he has!

It's big barbie vibes and I love it

I really like The Weekend’s music, but it’s clear he’s a gross misogynist and is more likely to be MeToo’d than not. Until something abusive about him comes out, I’ll just separate art from the artist.

Whoa… good point…

There probably was, they did it on purpose, just like the Epstein island "joke"

Yep that was one of the most insensitive scenes out of this hot garbage of a show and it was definitely very knowingly put in the show to once again relish in the gay stereotypes that gay people are all machoistics or sadistic and just basically reaffirming harmful mlm fetishes

Oof you have a really good point

Disgusting and terrible.

It feels like it's meant to mock the ME Too movement

it's very very very weird

@@wolfidessdragondol it makes you think what Sam and Abel have done in the past that makes them want to mock the me too movement and make a women who is a victim of abuse look like the villain.

I think one part that emphasizes this is the part about the intimacy coordinator. Esp after Sydney Sweeney spoke out about pushing back on not needing nudity in some scenes and about how great it was to work with the intimacy coordinator. And then we see a scene where the intimacy coordinator is portrayed as the ‘bad guy’

​@@wolfidessdragondolI got that impression, as well.

Extremely gross

WE WERE ROBBED

I think it’s time someone else wrote that story.

Ya I hope that version gets picked up again by another producer :///

Bella in Rehab

That's horrifying!

the parallels to his exs… 💀

his music is literally just talking about how much he loves manipulating and abusing women. took ppl long enough to realize who this dude is

This whole plot really lines up with some of his sleaziest lyrics so I'm convinced now that this is a bunch of his fantasies/how he views women. Some of the common themes in his songs about girls are about how they're obsessed with attention/power/money, love to be in control especially in a sexual temptress role, and how he mistrusts them or thinks their emotional outcries are attempts at appearing like the victim in a manipulative way. Reply to this comment if you're interested in particular examples. All this, combined with Bella Hadid heavily implying in recent years in interviews that she was in an emotionally abusive relationship with him (which his lyrics also all but confirm), I'm pretty confident in concluding Abel is misogynistic at the very least.

Well, she sympathizes with her father, so I guess she just doesn't care.

I really defended her, because having Kate Moss, a supermodel known for the famous line of "nothing tastes as good as being skinny feels," and having a father be a known addict(to multiple substances), and having your childhood be publicized must have been hell growing up. Sure, she'll never worry about finances, she can be whatever the hell she wants to be, she's gorgeous, etc., but I can sympathize with how possible it was that she dealt with a lonely and unrewarding childhood. With that being said, I don't know why she kept this role. I understand it started off as something much more substantial, but the whole production changed, and again, she's very nepotism coded, so she definitely could've gotten out of any binding contracts, especially given how different the end product finished. I really didnt like her defending Levinson, and acting like the criticism was invalid and clout chasing. Really gave me an unsatisfactory taste. I think she is a pretty good actor, but unfortunately, I think she has a big ego.

@@rachel5399 Kate moss isn’t her mother, but yeah i can see what you’re saying

@@sarahvitoria9526 huh

She supports her wife beater dad so it’s really not a surprise imo. She knows what she’s doing. At least at this point in her life, she benefits from the idea that women are calculating abusers.

LMAO fr

Lmaoooo this is so spot on, I can’t 😂

LMFOABDJAF

This is the funniest way to describe it 💀

Not the Episode gems 😂 There was so many times where she could’ve done or said anything but didn’t like she must’ve been low-low

Of course Sam wanted to let us know that the story has a sexualizdd underaged character. Wouldn't be his show if that wasn't the case.

And she didn’t even need to be underage. Putting her as 18 still shows that she met Tedros when she was underage.

and they do NOTHING about it after destiny knows

like im pretty sure in an earlier episode during a party we see her completely topless/naked????? like HELLO?

@@jalnyxIKR WHAT WERE THEY THINKING???? She undressed in front of a stranger and jumped into the pool like that was normal behaviour! I’m so tired by Sam and his disgustingness.

Apparently The Weeknd wrote a terrible song about Jennie (or I guess her “character”) about how she’ll do anything for popularity. It’s mad disrespectful and embarrassing.

I mean Lily supports her dad and Jennie is sort of known for being one of the slimier kpop idols. And the weeknd has been telling us through his lyrics how much of a creep is is this whole time

​@@ohnoitsthenooooI'm not a fan of Jennie, but how has anything ever indicated that she would willingly participate in this? I know she had a fair share of scandal but I don't think I ever saw anything that could correlate to being perceived as "slimy", especially "slimier" as if kpop idols haven't been doing a lot worse than performing badly on a stage.

⁠@@ohnoitsthenooooLily never openly spoke out supporting her dad at least from what I’ve seen. And also Jennie’s friends with Alexander wang, someone who has SA many people.

I don't think the Weekend was ever a good person. He wrote those lyrics in one of his songs about f*cking a queer woman straight. Like is he playing tedros or is he playing himself because that's what it's giving lmao.

"What if the victim was the real abuser 😱😱😱"

I have literally never met someone who lied about child abuse and even of stories of heard of others lying it’s NEVEr been so odd ☠️

@@smileyface8057like actually. What was the point?? Why did they do this?? Who approved this shit??

​@@theMoporterwhaaaaaa? 😳 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

And the way they even used Brittany Spears's name in this garbage show.

This right here!

Either that or The Weeknd will “curb stomp yo ass” 💀💀💀💀💀💀

@@JustWhattaRuLookinAt i am dead 💀💀😂😂

So true. And I mean I get why they did it, like that was a paying gig for them and he/they have all the power there. And if you’re in a show and have to promote the show as part of that, obviously you have to make the show sound good whether it is or not.

I mean yeah, that's their job...

thats such a ridiculously common trope in media. the show goes out of its way to straight up lie to the audience about the motivations of its characters, and then tries to look smart by pulling the rug. which then begs the question: did jocelyn know she was being filmed, since she put on those fake emotions when she was meant to be alone? or are they trying to tell us her character was method acting being the victim the whole time.

I kind of interpreted it as showing that although the abuse was real, it wasn't the same hairbrush, and that she hadn't let him get to her as much as it seemed like she had. maybe i'm just delusional bc I can't stand the idea of a show trying to claim that the abuse victim was actually the mastermind all along.

My dumbass thought the fact it was a new hairbrush meant that she finally moved on from her trauma but the idea her mom never hit her is also cool. That said the show has gaping plot holes and you don’t understand the reasoning of him hitting her apart from the weird fetish of the show runners.

They tried to really say “pain makes you creative” but it didn’t work. I was tired of the gratuitous ass shots and the nonstop singing.

If her lying about the abuse was a plot twist then the show is retconned and it’s dogshit

i think maybe the hairbrush thing was supposed to be something like her mom's abuse was her artistic motivator?? and now that she has tedros as her new disturbing abuse muse she was able to move on from her mom's abuse and so she got rid of the old hairbrush??? I really don't know, i just truly don't understand the "message" that all the people involved claimed was so important and needed to be told through SA and abuse, it's just bad :/

that's literally what i was thinking, like, who would even enforce that???

Also dianne going to a record deal with no lawyer of agent what so ever?? How normal is that??

Fr it sounds like a parody of the little mermaid

I get that like an 18 year old wouldn't entirely realise that the contract isn't valid, but at this point he would have seen enough contract shenanigans to know it isn't.

This was entirely stupid af. So he signed a contract that was just a piece of paper when he was a child. That whole thing reads as such a stupid justification for him neglecting his own career. This show is very juvenile in that way, it lacks any maturity at all.

Hahaha yes! It totally has ' this painting I started months ago and forgot about then finished off 20 mins before the deadline is a comment on gender roles under late capitalism'

@@bmet102 ngl I feel like gender roles under late capitalism is totally worth speaking about because of all the incel red pill bs going on

@@ann6878 yeah i think that's why they used it as an example of something that sounds worth making a piece about. But the joke is that they actually put no effort into the piece and tacked on a meaning at the end. I used to do this too lol

LMAO YES "we really see her true colours" dude don't act like you knew, i have flashbacks of my final exam watching you

As an ex art student LMAOOOO I see it

THANK YOU! It absolutely was a last minute scramble to try and save what little this show had to save. And the little was literally air.

agreed, that's a great way of putting it!

The fact your instructor said this about Middle Schoolers and Levinson is a grown ass man doing this Hollywood says a lot of things

thats honestly an interesting reflection on why some people write that way though it’s interesting definitely. ik u meant this in a demeaning way (understandable LMAO) but its genuinely insightful to me as an explanation for this show and a lot of other works of fiction

i always took it as little kids love drama

I was like that at that age too, it’s like… at least they’re kids who don’t know better and haven’t had time to get their skills up. Sam Levinson is fully grown and still thinks “let me throw a bunch of gross/sleazy/controversial stuff at the wall and see what sticks” is good writing

This is spot on. You’re completely right.

You hit it right on the nail. And the fact that Sam Levinson and the Weeknd wrote and worked together to make the story this way makes it concerning as to who they might be irl

Frrrr that is completely it. Abel really was out here self reporting when he said that Tedros represents the character traits every man is fighting. He has an abuse fantasy and thinks that everyone else does too. Nope buddy, that is just you and Sam I guess.

yep 😥

@@starsgalaxy3113 Damn, I completely forgot he said that. It’s so fucking gross

So it's been confirmed that he based elements of the story on his ex? If so, that's as predictable as it is disgusting.

im really sorry you went through all this :( and i feel even worse because of what a joke they're making this into

That's so terrible but I'm glad you're okay now and out of that situation.. I hope you get to have more peace and safety from now on.. But man this is why shows like this are so incredibly dangerous. stupid rich guys who hate women sit in their fancy houses and create abuse scenarios because it's all just hypothetical situations and entertainment for them. But there are REAL people who have been through abuse and trauma... for them to do everything they did in this show is an absolute insult to victims everywhere. You do not deserve to hear or see shit like this when you've literally lived it. If I could delete this show off the face of the earth I would :(

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That's extremely scary, I hope you're doing okay nowadays ❤ these writers are literally so sick in the head for this horrific bastard show. I'm just glad most people are shitting on it to hell and back at least? 🥲

Same, held hostage for 3 days and violently raped by my ex.... Really in awe at how tasteless the "male perspective" ended up being with this show.

also i’m pretty sure gone girl was written by a woman 🤷‍♂️

​@@be_couragousit was!

What great points i didn’t even think of this, thank you for pointing it out:)

You know what they say, a show can cover dark/heavy/or even controversial topics and can still be good and convincing if written well enough. But if you wrote it so badly like Sam or Abel did 💀, people won’t be able to brush off the negative aspects of the show and call it out.

​@@JustWhattaRuLookinAtAmy is also a Lana del Rey vinyl hello kitty core misandrist femcel sigma girlboss mother (Jocelyn is not)

Exactly! What’s even more upsetting is seeing what the show could’ve been with Amy’s vision

Also “we’re going to sexually exploit our lead actress to show why it’s bad that the industry exploits women’s sexuality.”

I initially thought _(and I know I'm being way too generous here)_ that it wasn't really supposed to be a twist. My first thought was that they were trying to turn the tables on Tedros, and end the series with _her_ in a position of power over _him_ instead. But that _still_ would be a stupid ending, because he's _still_ getting exactly what he wanted from her. So it'd makes _no goddamn sense_ to portray it as a victory for her. I don't know. This show just gives me _nothing_ to work with.

@@TrackpadProductions That's exactly what I was thinking. It's like the writers have no idea how to write a well-rounded good story. As a writer myself, it feels like someone wrote up a first draft and then put it into production without any editing or anything.

idk why they even entertained the idea that tedros is sympathetic either. it’s like they were trying to be gone girl but forgot that 1. sam and abel are no gillian flynn 2. the book and movie were both from a feminist perspective 3. nick is just an asshole, not a creepy criminal who belongs behind bars 💀

I can only hope that Sam Levinson gets blacklisted…

Especially when she didn’t do anything to him exactly. She was a little mean before she kicked him out of her house after she got tired of him. Wow, a real villain.

Hey - don't forget that Vanity Fair article!

he gives me bad vibes tbh, just my opinion.

​@@AudraAuclairsame!

It’s one show with 5 hours worth of content. He’ll bounce back after his next album or something.

If Chris brown can bounce back then he can as well. Luckily I never was a fan of his music so I’ll continue to ignore his music per usual LOL

​@@markigirl2757I would've never thought to compare this guy to Chris Brown. Now, that you've mentioned it. He's looking more Chris Brownish by thr minute. 🤣

@@amandadunn7678you have to be joking. Chris Brown literally beat up Rihanna. You’re really downplaying a very serious thing here. Did you not see what she looked like after what Chris Brown did?? How is that remotely comparable to The Weeknd co-producing a show you think is bad??

​@@amandadunn7678Dumbest shit I've read in a while...

I enjoyed Euphoria but if you have a similar teenage experience it’s a different perspective when you watch. Zendaya has such incredible acting skills, her portrayal of a drug spiral and withdrawal was the only storyline worth watching for - don’t get me wrong there. I hated seeing all the sexual violence, Levinson has a weird obsession with teenagers

I have semi mixed feelings about euphoria, because the only subplot I actually find profound is Rue's, but the way the other female characters are treated is cheap in comparison to the predicaments women face irl

@@waxtopiahat's true, the hyper sexualization is so unnecessary unless there's an actual plot and reason

It's to much and way over the line, but Zendayas acting and her story as Rue is beautiful and incredible. There's a scene where she has a huge fight with her Mother and sister and that's one of the hardest scenes I've ever seen, in the best way possible

The first season handles drug abuse and trauma pretty well. You won't get much from the 2nd season besides memes and an incoherent plot. Though, the depiction of sexually active teens is still quite gratuitous and explicit tbh.

ong moment say it louder

Those outfits are straight fire & I may just subscribe because of those outfits!

But was he a pimp though? Pretty sure the shit against him was bogus just like they did to Joclyns Ex at the end.... he a pimp in the sense of having a stable of artists but I garuantee the line he says "he to prison for this shit" means it was bullshit...they took him down on his come up when he was the artist...as a rapper or whatever....the nuances in the show are almost too complicated for the average layman. People keep asking who is this show made for ...and I'll tell you ...its made for other artists.

​@@theguitarfather1837///😮🤔 PRESTIGE PROJECT got a GREENLIGHT for Abel & Levinson???

Thank you D'Angelo for being just as biting and snarky as I would be at ...what was it called again? Whatever... so I will never have to watch this or even bother to remember it happened at all.

​@nickalem5692 obviously? i dont understand why you felt the need to make that comment. he puts effort into his scripts and videos, why wouldn't he be proud of how well they do? how about you transfer the same amount of effort from writing pointless snarky comments into doing something positive for once?

Couldn’t of said it better

​@@nickalem5692 DUh? Do you think us naïve and you the enlightened one? We know _that._ And we'll happily give it. If wanting likes and views automatically makes you a villain then I got news for you: _You're_ the naïve one.

I can’t tell if that’s a pun or not.

I’m so sorry you went through that, I hope you and your mom are healing 🫶🏾

This is so true. Abuse and trauma is all kinky fun and games until it happens to you... the human condition is to be physically repulsed from it. Even if people's -philia's developed from it, they are realistically acted out on a pre-existing nest of trust and respect that is *reinforced with consistency,* before even being able to explore such things without issues in the long run. You can just tell who's a low-empathy moron when sexualisation is their takeaway from this plot outline.

But it's ok women are actually in charge when they get abused!!! Obvious /s it's just horrible, they glorify the abuse and make fun of victims I want to know what goes on behind closed doors in their relationships.

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​@@KhsjsjThey were being sarcastic you nimrod.

As an artist, idk why he is lying

​@@SailorMaplePrismPoweryes definitely

It's because the writer has never watched a drama anime before. It's like...the best anime trope imo.

​!!! Audra hi never expected to see you here. But very true

Because that wouldn’t have put enough focus on the Weeknd and how mean to him Jocelyn was. I’m not kidding.

⁠@@mst3kharrisit would focus on the woman’s pov in the industry, aka, too accurate. exactly what the weeknd didn’t want 🙄

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he never abused her

Yep. Tedros was only doing what she really wanted him to do and then she was so mean to him for it!

​@@theguitarfather1837you are delusional lmao

@@AliceBunny05 That horrible 'plot twist' is what allows for anyone to even consider that the abuse highlighted in most of this horrible show was some sort of 'ploy' by Joycelyn. This is exactly what the producer(s) of this show wanted; it can't be victim blaming, if they try to make the victim look like a scheming, heartless manipulator even if it's nonsensical within the story the producer(s) themselves created.