very disappointed that loossemble hasn’t also been highlighted as a loona successor project but more of a 'they signed with another company'

if you wanted to make a vid about artms just title it that u did barely any research about what happened to loona outside of artms.. cause loossemble is also def worth mentioning as a “new beginning” to loona + u didn’t even mention yves or research what she’s doing at all??

Hey everyone 5 of the other loona members are touring the US next month as 'Loossemble'! kinda weird how that didn't make it into this video😅

this timeline is kinda messy… chuu was kicked, this is what started the boycott, and in December the other members (-vivi and Hyunjin for some more time) tried to file lawsuits and stuff to leave bbc, and they announced the cb, then oec and Heejin were free, they signed with modhaus, everyone else was stuck at bbc, and eventually the rest of them were freed

"what happened to loona" but no mention of loossemble, yves, or chuu 🙄

i went to KOREA just to find out what happened to jaden jeong

You know you've lost the plot when you have to take a moment in your "What Happened to Loona" video to say "alright let's get back to Loona". Because you spent more time talking about Triple S and Jaden than Yves and Loossemble.

hey don't forget the loossemble girls (hyunjin, vivi, yeojin, gowon, and hyeju) - they are having a US tour soon!!!

Actually, about the whole "budget" thing, Jaden himself admitted in an interview, after he left Trashberry, that they inflated the number for marketing purposes, and that their budget was actually much lower. They started with a lot of money, but as Loona 1/3 wasn't as popular as they expected, and didn't sell as many albums, they reduced the buget for OEC, actually, Eclipse is probably the cheapest MV they made. Plus, Trashberyy had to borrow money from various investors to continue the project, hence the bankruptcy news that were popular a few years ago (like the DONUT case and such).

0:26 what you mean is artms, loosemble, chuu and Ibu.

Just ARTMS huh? Not also Loossemble....?

2 different groups, 4 different agencies (most probably) later but we are still going strong , nothing can stop them and tripleS. fighting girls! also glad you met h1-key . yel is amazing and hwiseo is the new queen of puzzles.

11:04 i saw the girls live in Amsterdam last year, you could just see how drained they were and feel the low energy it was sad to see but this time on oec tour it was incredible you can really tell they actually enjoyed it and seemed so energised too

Titles it LOONA but barely mentions members that make up LOONA and spends more time talking about that man and how his other group operates. Not to mention continually saying LOONA is over when the members themselves have been documented multiple times saying the opposite 🤧 Anyway. LOOSSEMBLE is debuting something on September 15 6PM KST, Chuu mentioned an album drop soon, Yves has been hyping up something she's been working on since May/June, Heejin solo activity in October, possible Haseul solo activity, possible OEC or ARTMS winter album, and ARTMS debut soon!

this is not a video about loona its a video about artms …. dont use their name for clickbait if you’re not even gonna MENTION the other SEVEN members 😭😭😭😭 especially when loossemble has just as many members as artms including the yyxy members that have talked about how badly jaden treated them

I just want to clarify, in Queendom 2, they got covid and could not participate in round 1. They still performed after they all healed, and the performance was absolutely beautiful, but they did not get any points from it. There's a minimum amount of score they could get each round, and if they had gotten even just that (which imo they wouldve gotten at least 3rd), that is enough to surpass WJSN's score. Loona lost on a technicality, no hate to WJSN, but Loona was and ever shall be the real winner of Q2.

No mentions of the other LOONA members whatsoever. Where's the LOONA when there's no LOONA mentioned?

It cost roughly $2.2m for the predebut project. Jaden mentioned it in a comment on his blog - the $9m figure was a marketing ploy.

jaden didn't save loona either (triple s and artms saved HIM) so idfk what you're talking about, literally more members signed with other companies than they did with jaden i think that explains everything x

i guess loossemble and yves just aren't loona anymore 🤣🤣

I hope you make an entirely different video about loossemble and yves and don’t mention artms lol

While I liked the video over all, crowning artms loona 2.0 while ignoring what the other members are doing is bit unfair. I know Loona, the sound and the aesthetics were something but as proven by how much orbits liked everysong and every comeback they did including osts for dramas and other stuff, most orbits are here for the members, the girls. Although I'm extremely happy for Odd Eye Circle and supported all their comeback cycle, ordered their album in all their versions, etc etc, I don't feel it's fair to do a video focusing only on them as if the other members left the loona idea/concept behind when they signed with another agency or decided to go solo. If anything what kept the fandom still united during the boycott (the whole boycott era you ordered a bit weirdly too, I'm sure it makes for a compelling story that way but that's not the order things happened) was Hyunjin being brave and talking to us through it all, she'll always be a cornerstone of Loona even if Monotree never gives her a song or if Digipedi never directs one of her videos. I can't in good conscience like this video bro, it feels weird.

NO MENTION OF LOOSSEMBLE???

it's a nice although flawed little recap story but it's clear that it was made in accordance to what Modhaus wanted you to focus on, even tripleS which has very little to do with Loona as a whole was mentioned, but Loossemble wasn't even named

next time just name the video my love letter to jaden jeong freak

sure a video about loona barely mentioning even half of the members

mention how jADEN LEFT LADIES CODE

Very weird video…. jaden jeong is not a good person regardless. respect the girls. they deserve more respect than him. it’s very weird how you center a video on a man that left them to dust and don’t mention loona themselves and their new achievements

Yikes my dude. LOONA is not only artms and the girls don't owe their success to Monotree or Jaden Jeong, they contributed sure. But how fiercely loyal orbits are to the moon girls are because of the girls, every time we saw their personalities in a loona TV episode, the way they can convey feelings through their music, those weird and charming vlives and their love for our weird humor. That's all them. I'm thankful they're mostly together and will support all of them in what they want to do in the future. Not because they work again with jj I will forget how much weigh Hyeju had to lose in a week, the impossibility of letting Vivi to see her family even in those long hiatus, the way Jinsoul would complain of how much her scalp hurt for the bleach, the way that I the yyxy photoshot the girls were posing with food but not allowed to consume it. Even he admitted his difficult personality and thanked the girls to be willing to work with him again. I can't wait for artms debut as a ot5 group they will do amazing and I excited for loossemble and hope the girls that used to get less lines get to shine now and I can't wait to see Chuu and Yves solos debut.

Dude, the sooner we realized Jaden is not our savior, the better it's...

11:25 how are you gonna get that all wrong, it was the tour first, then Chuu got removed in November, 9/11 remaining members filed to terminate their contracts and then they announced a "comeback".

loona is for all 12 members, so this doesn’t make sense to me. sure we get artms seems to be the most safe option rn with modhaus behind them and good links to producers and stuff but, it really falls flat with orbits if you’re going to focus only on 5/12 members of loona? i clicked on this thinking that everyone would be covered. instead, we barely mentioned the other 5/12 girls, chuu, or yves and her really interesting solo approach

how about you title the video “find out about what artms is doing” because you clearly didn’t mention lossemble yves or chuu

Went into this expecting something actually informative about what happened after only for you to focus on artms and completely disregarding the rest. You talked about jaden more than the group themself? Don’t include loona in the title if youre not gonna actually talk about them

i really hope jaden jeong didnt like commission this and purposefully get him to exclude loossemble and yves lol

the way the title caught my attention immediately

9M to debut LOONA was debunked by Jaden Jeong himself. He said in one of interviews that it was 2-3M USD. The 9M was just for mediaplay.

Making a video about Loona and purposefully ignorning half of the members, how much did JJ pay you?

the hi high instrumental made me feel quite sad. it introduced me to not only kpop outside of my first group i found back in 2018 but girl groups. i was nowhere near an orbit and im still lacking in orbitness but last year i listened to their b sides in a youtube playlist and oh my. it showed me what true orbits saw in those women. it's amazing how they perform and their professionalism and their abilities. i thank them for their efforts and im so happy things are looking up for them. understanding their past, that's not even so long ago, is so interesting and as someone who's drifted and come back to kpop over time (at the moment only really listening to old songs) their stuff is timeless.

Stan Artms Stan Loossemble, Stan Chuu Stan Yves

Damn they killing you in the comments

you are not taking abt loossemble or yves in any moment

you forgot to mention that jaden jeong starved the girls and he caught yves eating once so he took her food and then publicly posted about it making fun of her! 😊

Not you leaving info how jj left ladies code and lovelyz after loterally being their main creative director… the amount of misinformation and ingnoring main aspects is astounding. selling out for modhaus and not metioning it in the video… gurl.

you skipped over a LOT of important details but overall this is pretty concise

not one mention of yves loossemble & chuu alright how much did you get paid for this

The other "LOONA" members erasure sure is real cuz why you just bringing up artms or oec when half of the girls decided to be together? Also chuu is having a comeback and yves is also preparing to go solo and that to you isn't worthy of a mention? Next time don't make the shilling to obvious

As someone who hasn’t followed LOONA at all and only got into it bc of Loossemble, this was very helpful to catch up on what happened lol I would have like more mention of the members and their activities though. Seems like you kinda glossed over everyone outside of ARTMS and Chuu.

LOOSSEMBLE COMEBACK SEPTEMBER 15TH!!!

I would sell my left leg to see Loona pull a Taylor Swift and all 12 of them re-record their songs under a new name. Not sure if that’s even possible for them, but a girl can dream.

is this a modhaus sponsored video? lol

poorly researched don't speak on them anymore please loona's story centers around 12 women

'what happened to loona' yet u ignored half of the members..? yeah okay

its pissing me off so much how you centralize loona’s success towards one person as if it was handed on a silver platter to the members themselves. LOONA’S SUCCESS IS BECAUSE OF THE GIRLS THEMSELVES. They saved themselves, they weren’t saved by someone.

Being an orbit has been painful but seeing how hard they’re trying makes it worth it

this is pissing me off badddd

He simply had to investigate for himself; as an orbit I admire the dedication Edit: I do wish that all members were mentioned in detail. While I absolutely love ARTMS, that’s only 5 out of the 12 members.

i wasn’t there when oec debuted as a subunit. i’ve only been an orbit since so what, and i’m not as big of a stan as others are. but, seeing oec debut/redebut/comeback had me feeling all the feels. i miss my moon girlies! i know they won’t be back as ot12 soon, but i have hope that they will be back in the future.

thanks bro, i’m literally just getting into this post-loona lore and this vid was so helpful thanks 🙏🙏🙏🗣️

loved the part where you mentioned the other 7 girls who aren't in ARTMS!

On one hand im jealous that you got to meet them. on the other I just saw them myself a couple of weeks ago right in front of me so lol. They are such great performers, I cant wait for what the future holds for them. Wish them all the best, the ARTMS, loosemble girls aswell as chuu and yves.

This is so annoying why would you make it seem like loona's success is only because of Jaden Jeong... Let's not forget he's a horrible person who treated the girls terribly didn't even want them to popular

there’s seven other members you didnt mention??

Yay! So glad you could interview them in person!

Love the video you created, I personally wonder why you didn't mention CTDenm., LOOSSEMBLE or what Chuu and Yves are up to? ARTMS is only one 1/3 of the new LOONA saga.

What a disappointing video - how much did jj pay you, nathan? Lol

This story is so much more awesome than I expected. Thanks for helping to bring it forward! I need to buy both versions of K and all three of Version Up.

How about Loossemble, Yves, and Chuu 😌

trigger warning: if you are an orbit you cant get through the whole video without crying a few times

Hi, coming here from the Heejin interview video to give this a watch! I'm long time orbit from just right before xx era and I've been here for this long ride on LOONA island. I wish I could just enjoy this video, but there's just too much I feel compelled to speak up on. 6 minutes into the video and I have to say I'm appalled and disgusted. I am passionate about the LOONAverse as well, don't get me wrong. I can understand JJ is very talented in his own right. But the way this is compiled and explained is not the vibe. This video makes it feel like because of JJ's absence was the reason for LOONA falling apart and not BBC taking advantage of these girls the moment they joined the company and Chuu eventually being the reason the girl's band together and leave BBC. There's such a huge lack of really explaining how we, as fans (and actually LOONA too), were getting radio silence as well from what was going on with LOONA not only after LOONACON(KCON) and Haseul's hiatus, but also with Chuu's "hiatus" which turned into her being kicked from LOONA and being framed by BBC as a monster, but all of the industry comes out to defend her and speak out in favor of her. Like you easily could have added that in and explained it for easily a minute each. I think those were some huge catastrophic events in LOONA's history and it was brushed over and not explained enough... if even at all touched upon... And now I'm here, 13 minutes in. And I just can't help but roll my eyes! Why are you such a ride or die for JJ after knowing what he did to the girls in the past? How can you ignore what the girls have said? Again, I too love the story of the LOONAverse and clearly somethings are put to rest as some of the girls have signed with him, but how can you just speak so highly of him like this? And it's like.. it just feels this video is just here to really speak more so on JJ and his impact in Kpop and LOONA... and again.. this is coming from someone who is interested in his creative process for storytelling in groups as well as his music taste (I also kept up with tripleS). Saying there's no LOONA feels like a slap in the face with how much the girls speak publicly about them still being LOONA, wanting/hoping to do ot12 activities with each other... etc... Also, as everyone else points out in like every comment- where is LOOSEMBLE or Yves in this video? "Belief in Jaden would be there when it looked like everything was going to be over." Can you be honest? Do you actually know about anything? Are you just like a surface level casual fan of LOONA? Because this is actually insane to hear. It'd be nice, if you'd put out some disclaimer/apology of sorts, that explains that you're a casual fan who just was a fan of LOONA for their music and lore, and that's it. Because that's fine! It would make this video more understandable if you genuinely had no idea what LOONA spoke out about and went through. Because that's what this video feels like. Surface level info where JJ is some hero who is swooping in to save LOONA and was always there for them and supported them. I hope you might take the time to look up what LOONA has specifically said about what they've went through in the past, and do some research on what LOONA and orbits went through since their debut with Heejin's solo. It's insane how much you leave out that actually matters when it comes to LOONA disbanding and how much you put into this video that is just praising JJ and other things. Tl;dr I'm sad and disappointed in this video and the crucial information that was left out but should have been included in this video.

The collab group at 0:13 is Def H1key!!!! I love them, can't wait to see what you did with them!!

Honestly, having the overflowing handful of gems that are LOONA and their creative team, and running them til they were literally falling apart, not paying them, basically slandering them....BBC absolutely did not deserve to have any control over this immensely talented group of people.

Did Jaden Jeong fund this video ijbol

Becoming an Orbit and experiencing the rise and fall and rise of these 12 amazing girls will never leave my memory EVER Im still hoping for an Ot12 collab in the near future but in the meantime lets enjoy ARTMS, Loossemble, Yves, and Chuu's individual activities❤️

how much did he pay you

Hurrraaayyyy I was waiting for the new video to drop!!!

this isnt a video about loona, its about jaden and artms. if this was about loona you would've talked about loossemble and yves alongside artms. stop painting that man as a saviour.

I'm going support the girls regardless of what can company they are in. I'm got tickets for the upcoming tour. I wish I could have seen OEC in Paris during their European tour.

since you want to suck up to jaden jeong so much, nathan, here's a list of terrible things he did to loona whilst he was a part of bbc: ! pretty big tw for st@rving and diet1ng ! - he refused to allow jinsoul to dye her hair due to the 'concept' despite her saying her scalp hurt from the constant bleaching - he wouldn't let the girls eat as to not gain weight, yves was quoted saying she 'wanted to d1e back then' because of how strict things were - just to reiterate the last point, he had them eating A SINGLE APPLE AND TWO EGG WHITES A DAY!!! NOTHING MORE!!! they had to beg managers to let them eat a sandwich because they were so desperate. mind you most of the girls were young and still growing so this would have seriously affected their development - hyeju (formerly olivia hye) was forced to do a 7 day fast which eventually turned into an 8 day fast after she had a phone call from jaden saying she couldn't eat he didn't want her to be 'bloated' for a shoot the next day - hyeju was forced into a diet and stayed home alone whilst the other girls went out so she could keep up with their he diet, she said she cried alone in her bed because of this - he wouldn't release content the girls worked hard on, often to the frustration of the other staff that worked on the projects - choerry said that when she looks back on the love cherry motion mv, she thinks she was too young for the concept and the styling, lyrics etc were too sexual for a 16 year old (she was 15 when filming) - jaden stated he wanted to create "the most unknown female group", literally admitting to keeping loona from succeeding. he was pretty obsessed with this idea and would stop the girls from posting on social media to go along with the idea of an underground group in conclusion the real credit to loonas success are the orbits who have supported them through everything, not one terrible man who ab^sed all of loona when they were mostly teenagers. this video was incredibly uncomfortable to watch knowing how much the actions of jaden jeong negatively impacted the girls mentality and physically. do better.

Just finding it very interesting that you were able to mention tripleS but not Loossemble and Yves, and how you're implying that Jaden Jeong was the biggest factor in Loona's success when they've actually had a huge rise in popularity after XX. You claim to be an orbit, but completely brush over how the girls have talked about how Jaden would starve them and force them to keep their hair blonde even though they had headaches from the constant bleaching. It's also a little outdated to contribute's a girl group's success to a man, right?

I saw the girls live in berlin last week and this is making me miss them so much 🥲 love the video!!!

Love the set and welcome back!

i am looking forward to everything… even those who signed under that different company, that has 12 dots as logo with the 4 who signed filling 4 into color, their individual representative colors from loona. its so nice to see all holding onto loona and wanting to continue the story

You spent more time talking about Jaden than any of the LOONA members. Might as well change the title of the video. Absolutely no mentions about Yves (her production crew, solo shoots) or Loossemble (Run Orbit event, upcoming US tour). Horrible research.

I just saw OEC literally yesterday, and this reminded me Girl Front was the 1st LOONA song I listened that hooked me. OEC

So yeah, I know I went for milk and didn't comeback but now We are SO BACK! Making a lot of new videos and fresh takes on videos you already like from me! LETS GET IT! Oh, and Odd Eye Circle was pretty chill 😅

0:00 Jinsoul reference

Thought your channel stopped. Missed your contents. Glad you’re back

I love watching you! Your dreams will come true! Thanks for the content!

I AM SO PROUD OF LOONA AND MY FELLOW ORBITS❤❤

what an informative video! i love how you didnt bring up loossemble and yves and seemingly forgot to mention how shit jaden jeong is and how he has a history of treating groups terribly, that he also abused loona! i love to see uneducated people praise abusers. 😊 also i loved how you used official mvs in your video with heejin, despite knowing about the boycott and such.

I loved them from the beginning!!!! And excitied for their future

welcome back! I loved the video, can you do what happened to Rain and Taemin next?

still no loossemble, chuu or yves video. 😂😂

Perfect day to release this video since we found out Chuu won her lawsuit!! I hope you will make a video discussing Loossemble's side of things once they release music.

You forgot to mention how JJ treated the girls terribly yet somehow people still suck up to him and discredit the girls' hard work ❤️

yeah, i'll be real, i don't trust any orbit who doesn't give the time of day to loossemble. loona is the 12 girls, they are still loona because of overcoming THEIR own hardships, jj has nothing to do with it, and in fact caused some of it! loona does not only exist under jaden.

I went to the Loona concert in Reading, PA and I felt sooo bad for the girls especially with what happened before the concert. When Haseul came out in a sling, I felt so bad for her and wished that they could just go home and rest. It was cool to see all the different colors of the members light up in the venue but it didn't feel like Loona without all 12. A part of me wished that I had not bought my ticket because it was very hard to see a group I really love be treated so horribly by a company.

My university actually does have a Kpop class... but a 300 level not 101. I'm taking it this term and I'm excited

Welcome back! i remember one of the first videos I watched of yours was where you had 'STAN LOONA' on your forehead--a true die-hard fan, lol! Glad you got to meet them! I assume that meeting's going to be an upcoming post??