If you want problems then buy KTM 250TPI or KTM 300TPI

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Before buying this ktm tpi i was really happy with my exc300 carb. First problem with TPI happened when the engine started going in reverse it happens when i ride bike in very low RPM. Another problem appeared after about 5 hours, 2 stroke oil tank cracked. I thought it would all be great when do updating mapping, but i was wrong ! Bike is sometimes bogging in long uphills and its very easy to overheat with cooling fan turned on what is very strange. I do not say it's a bad bike , it can be very nice ridden in fast terrain and in hard enduro also. And its working good, but its too much sensitive with a lot of sensors. If the engine is overheated, it starts to bogging and cutting power...
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@TheDirtbikeRider 5 жыл бұрын

I LOVE KTM I DONT HATE IT ! But TPI has a lot of problems

@ViktarMikalayenka 5 жыл бұрын

True. I own 250 tpi 2018 model and I don't have any of this issues, but I saw a lot of people who has.. It's runs very good but there are so many things to control before starting at least.. I bought KTM TPI to avoid this shit with carb jetting and oil mixing.. But now I'm thinking about - I'll spend less time to jetting the carb instead of checking all systems before I'm going to ride... KTM have to do something with that.. if not - all who loved ktm(like me) will buy Beta or sherco.. and it's will be good choose!

@kantilil3387 5 жыл бұрын

beta 300 RR awesome ))

@mixalis6168 5 жыл бұрын

5 pople i know own TPI, not one issue !!

@Sparky2 5 жыл бұрын

I am happy I made the decision to buy a 2019 TX300.... still has a carb.

@ViktarMikalayenka 5 жыл бұрын

@@mixalis6168 me and 3 my friends with whom I riding happy about new tpi. But I saw a lot of guys who has problems with oil pump or mapping. And I can say that, all who has a problems they bought grey bikes(no documents).. I bought my from official dealer and my folks too

@gustavomurguia643 5 жыл бұрын

Carb and premix is a perfect combination for 2 strokes ever.

@texwalker1662 5 жыл бұрын

I have a 2017 and I’m happy to mix the fuel myself and I run a little bit more oil it’s the best I’ve ridden

@gustavomurguia643 5 жыл бұрын

@@texwalker1662 Exactly, is the best for the engine 2 stroke.

@brendyngreiner3148 5 жыл бұрын

Gustavo Murguia especially with lectrons being as good as they are!

@gustavomurguia643 5 жыл бұрын

@@brendyngreiner3148 130 hours in xcw and zero problems

@elis740 5 жыл бұрын

I ride Snowmobiles and Dirt Bikes. Fuel injection is the way to go, it has revolutionized the snowmobile industry, the dirt bikes are just trying to catch up. If you ride Trials, the Vertigo has it figured out. KTM will get there, it might just take them a couple years to get it there. This is KTM's usual thing, the first couple years you get to be their ginny pig to test their new ideas, then they work out the bugs and it is great again.

@GladiusJon 5 жыл бұрын

Yup this is why Im Keeping my 17 300 Carb model.

@mesbahe 5 жыл бұрын

Then don't start crying when global warming starts acting up.

@GladiusJon 5 жыл бұрын

@@mesbahe your mom just called, your sandwich is ready 🤣

@mesbahe 5 жыл бұрын

@@GladiusJon LAUGH IT OFF U SELFISH PIG

@GladiusJon 5 жыл бұрын

@@mesbahe Speaking of Melt Downs.. 😂😂

@mesbahe 5 жыл бұрын

SPEAKING OF A HOLES

@hebbehoven9295 5 жыл бұрын

75 hours on my exc300 tpi so far. didn't have a single problem

@TheDirtbikeRider 5 жыл бұрын

as i said in my description its good bike unit problems start

@billymcculloch-hardenduro2755 5 жыл бұрын

Hebbe Hoven I agree got a 19te300i haven’t had any problems

@lukasdanler4655 5 жыл бұрын

I have a 2018 model 300 Pressbike and no problems after 50hr with racing erzberg and a lot more

@TheHmspencer 5 жыл бұрын

Also with 95 hours with the stock piston 😊

@sylvaner01 5 жыл бұрын

Guglielmo benvegnù change your piston bro ;) avoid these problems

@The2006200 5 жыл бұрын

I love mine 42 hours on it. Best bike I’ve ever had!

@travisswiger924 5 жыл бұрын

Yep. I'm keeping the yz.

@juliancastano4151 5 жыл бұрын

Yes

@DPJAB 5 жыл бұрын

Me too

@ryanryan6981 5 жыл бұрын

Have fun kicking over aswel as arm pump

@nonoantonio98 3 жыл бұрын

Ryan Ryan yea tru you don’t get arm pump pushing the Ktm back to the car 😂

@johnberry2877 3 жыл бұрын

That one must have been built in the Harley shop!!

@rekluseman666 5 жыл бұрын

Glad I got a 2017 with a Lectron and Vee Force reed block. Perfect, simple, reliable and economical on fuel.

@4iroh03 5 жыл бұрын

I owned a 300 tpi last year, sooooo much problems.... i love ktm too but tpi it’s a rlly bad experience, now i ride sherco and i love it

@itsyourdaddy6646 4 жыл бұрын

which ktm did you have?

@stevelutz8236 4 жыл бұрын

I stuck a sherco in my butt

@rufusgent6688 5 жыл бұрын

I am so glad I have bought last 2017 version with carb.I did upgrate to smart carb so no jetting.Happy days!!Great video

@HEINZUNIMOG 5 жыл бұрын

With TPI casing emission standards becomes a problem. #1 the fuel mapping. Premix your fuel and use a electron Carburetor.

@jackdawson76 4 жыл бұрын

Is the bogging down issue to do with the earth strap for battery coming loose? been looking at upgrading my 17 carb model to one of these now not so sure.

@normankeoghan5298 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for making us all aware of these issues I hope ktm comes to the party and gives you a full refund on your bike

@miika6739 5 жыл бұрын

Fuel injection and oil pumps seem to be working nice! Although I'll keep mixing gas and keeping my carbs in check

@killshotzx14r47 5 жыл бұрын

My tpi is the best bike ive owned. 42hrs not alot yet but she runs perfect from startup to whenever the ride is done. Keep her clean and well maintained.

@gamer2350 3 жыл бұрын

Good luck with that thing shoulda got a carb bike u will see why eventually

@killshotzx14r47 3 жыл бұрын

@@gamer2350 nope. 205hrs still perfect.

@paytonemmons4952 Ай бұрын

@@killshotzx14r47still going strong? How many top ends have you done? Just pistons or cylinder too yet?

@killshotzx14r47 Ай бұрын

@@paytonemmons4952 on that 2018 i traded on 300hrs 2 topends for maintenance purposes and 1 oil pump. No cylinder issues. On my 2021 150hrs one topend and one oil pump and still strong. Also changed one ccps sensor.

@sleepwalkerfromcloudcity572 5 жыл бұрын

i want to buy a ktm 300 exc tpi 2018 six days and make it to a sumo. will there be also problems if i would drive her sumo ? or will she be good ? i got no ideas about the problems i just heard that they are always broke at races

@joshualuukku9653 5 жыл бұрын

How long does it to overheat and in what use?

@tappedout300xc 5 жыл бұрын

If you race MX or SX then it's ok but for hard core off road riding it's a bad idea. I have never been stranded in the desert, mountains or DNF'd a race from a carb in 47 years of riding and racing.

@stevebussard 5 жыл бұрын

I've been stranded with a carb, but it was 100% my fault! Lol

@mxgryan 5 жыл бұрын

I think what you mean is... "if youre on a 4 stroke its a good idea" but not a 2 stroke haha

@johnguilbert1349 4 жыл бұрын

@@mxgryan Only on a 3 stroke

@karlmason6145 4 ай бұрын

I personally think the tpi is very well suited to Enduro, I have had my 2022 coming up to 130 hours, great bike runs better than my 2017 with smart carb and I've had no problems, I also ride in places that you can't drive to and have never been stranded

@deanfloyd8931 5 жыл бұрын

That's the sound of extreme leanness. She needs some fuel!

@TheDirtbikeRider 5 жыл бұрын

yeah, bikes are very easy to overheat because they run so lean

@enduro-parts-aus 5 жыл бұрын

That husky tho 😲😲😲😵

@cadwarrior 4 жыл бұрын

@@TheDirtbikeRider easy to fix with jetting on carb models...glad i bought a 2017 xc carb

@pvclassic 4 жыл бұрын

Not trying to pile on here, but my son's 2020 KTM xcw 250 TPI lost the entire motor at 33 hours. He and I ride together and not once has he overheated that bike. We noticed it not wanting to idle at around 25 hours, we took it in for the new mapping and it only got worse. Had the dealer tear it down only to tell us it looked like a motor with 233 hours not 33 hours on it. Piston looked just like these in the vid. Plug looked as tho it had been running lean to me but that had to be since I last read it. KTM covered parts but not labor. I have a 2020 Husky TE250i with a few less hours, wondering if we made mistakes in buying TPI bikes.

@Jesusiskingamen7 5 жыл бұрын

You are the only person that’s had problems I’ve had mine for awhile and Kyle from dirt bike channel has had one and out slot of miles on it if you leave them stock and don’t mess with them there fine

@user-fz8fy4zl1c 2 ай бұрын

Lots had problems with them!

@rajkirannatarajan9276 4 жыл бұрын

4:56 seems like a great way to start a fire 😂

@dereksheils4424 5 жыл бұрын

Iv had lots of off road bikes including two KTM 450 sx' s and two Husky TPI'S one 250 and a 19 300 at the moment, iv never had an issue with any one of them. Lot of buddy's on TPI'S with big hours without an issue, possibly down to bad oils/maintenance.

@kirknelson3020 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the informative video!

@dascr32 5 жыл бұрын

Exactly the same reason why I bought a 18 XCW 250 carb model

@MrWalkerds 5 жыл бұрын

I own a 2015 300xc and even i knew a 1st model year injected 2 stroke was going to have issues. Running a 2 stroke lean enough to pass emissions is going to lead to issues with lubrication.

@andrewsmith2948 5 жыл бұрын

and heat

@flagovhate 5 жыл бұрын

@Syd Moran an engine properly built can run at any RPM.

@flagovhate 5 жыл бұрын

@@andrewsmith2948 lack of lubrication creates friction, friction creates heat.

@Bryan-Hensley 5 жыл бұрын

@@flagovhate that's why they have an oil pump.

@flagovhate 5 жыл бұрын

@@Bryan-Hensley well you'd think with an oil pump they'd have no issues with lubrication right????

@F4izzle 5 жыл бұрын

I bought a 17 carbureted model to avoid these issues. I’d rather have a bike I can tune with simple hand tools.

@karlmason6145 4 ай бұрын

I brought a 2017 for the same reason great bike I still own it, however I have a 2022 that runs better everywhere and has never needed tuning other than setting the power value to my liking, it's coming up to 130 hours had zero problems , have heard there were some problems with the 18. 19. And 20 models and definitely waited for the problems to be sorted out before I brought one.

@johnnyreb86 5 жыл бұрын

Is this bike a 2018 or 2019? I have a 2019 husky 300tpi with 50 hours and haven’t had any issues yet. They must have changed things for the 2019 year.

@jfritzinger 5 жыл бұрын

My 2018 250 TPI runs fine. Fatten it up with the throttle screw adjustment. 60 hrs. 1100 miles.

@jameswhite007lurchio 5 жыл бұрын

Wow this is enough to put anyone off a tpi lol! I recently purchased one and like it so far but this video has me second guessing if I should sell it!

@desertrider8784 5 жыл бұрын

i would unload it and start over.

@unfunny2258 4 жыл бұрын

one guy having problems with a bike shouldnt completely turn you away, defective things happen

@helavatar 5 жыл бұрын

Hobby riders probably don't have to worry. But I have seen TPI's brake more than once(KTM or Husqvarna) and all of them in race conditions. There are models out there that have problems - fanboys will ofc deny those. I ride a KTM Freeride and like the bike but am honest with the problems I have had - and for some of the problems there was a recall on parts and service was provided free of charge. :D

@TheDirtbikeRider 5 жыл бұрын

Helavatar You are correct, if you push TPI to limits then problems will start, but it’s “race ready bike” that ktm said. Also i don’t know why to buy TPI and then spend 800euro for new ecu and injectors racekit from get data to make TPI work like carburetor

@keirhamilton5397 Жыл бұрын

Good bikes

@KTM-Beta 4 жыл бұрын

I just want to say - Thank you! for postning this video. I had plans for tomorrow to go and visit a KTM dealership in Gothenburg, SWEDEN to take a look at a close to new 2-stroke 250TPI or 300TPI. With all these issues in a close to new bike I won't buy one. I guess I'll go for a japanese bike If I can find one with hydraulik clutch and electrical starter. Til then, I keep my Husaberg FE400 2000.

@stupidmoto 5 жыл бұрын

wow I could watch this all day

@l-Mielie-l 5 жыл бұрын

I have a 2018 300 exc tpi and had absolutely no problems at all with my bike. I do let KTM service it so that's probably why. Show me the service histories of all these bikes and how they where maintained.

@kosteros 5 жыл бұрын

There examples off stock new bikes with some problems... and i cannot renember which service interval refers to "check if engine is turning correct way" ;P

@jmac262610 5 жыл бұрын

And you prob have like 4hrs on yours

@l-Mielie-l 5 жыл бұрын

@@jmac262610 currently at 45 hours :D

@Checkyoursix77 5 жыл бұрын

Seriously are you letting KTM doing all your service on an enduro bike? Are you kidding me? If I did that I wouldn’t do anything else than going to my dealer with my bike.

@catercross7228 5 жыл бұрын

Well after 0.1 Hours of riding a Piston simply shouldn't look like that. :(

@kyles5751 5 жыл бұрын

If there are this many problems already, they should be recalling and at least doing repairs on them. At least Honda has the decency to admit when they mess up, and then fix it.

@TheDirtbikeRider 5 жыл бұрын

i send email to ktm, but they dont care about buyers...

@kyles5751 5 жыл бұрын

@@TheDirtbikeRider What a shame, I hope they fix this for everyone who bought one.

@davidperry970 5 жыл бұрын

Typical European thing.

@kyles5751 5 жыл бұрын

@@davidperry970 Seems that is it becoming a common thing, with their cars, bikes, and whatever else.

@benwright3314 5 жыл бұрын

Honda makes bad gearboxes and reg recs, they keep sending them out though...

@crazyedts7808 5 жыл бұрын

that's why I have a 4 stroke 2016 ttr 125 yeah its small but gets you where ever you want. have about 400 hours on it and never have had a proplem.

@Fmontes 3 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad my first KTM is a 300xc with a Kehin!

@DmenDuroRider 5 жыл бұрын

My brother has 65hrs on his 250 tpi his piston looks nothing like that. I feel like some people are not running motorex low smoke oil. That's what the bike is designed to run with. And my brother got his oil tank replaced by KTM for free they said it was made from an inferior plastic and KTM will replace faulty oil tanks. No issues with the new tank.

@Lewiseyers 5 жыл бұрын

Recommended Motorex oil is critical for the injector and pump....and it's very good quality

@offroadtrailrider77 5 жыл бұрын

I got a carb 2018 250 xc. Gonna stay with carb for a few yrs then pull the trigger on tpi. I love the concept of tpi but I don’t like the single point of failure - oil pump.

@skippenstones7808 5 жыл бұрын

Exactly, kinda need oil to keep 2 strokes from shitting the bed . Stay with carburated few more years till ktm gets the bugs worked out of tpi

@bobelliott9790 5 жыл бұрын

I just bought a 19 xc 300 because its the last year with a carb, weighs 10 pounds less than TPI models and the last year they come with kick starter. Hell, it'll probably be collectable

@offroadtrailrider77 5 жыл бұрын

Bob Elliott my SmartCarb 2 should be arriving next week. Will test it out for Texas and Colorado elevation in a few weeks.

@menovitunparamm4116 5 жыл бұрын

Now the new ktm tpi series!! With a reverse!!!

@Jerry16. 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video im never gona buy tpi version .... i have now ktm 300exc sixdays 09y and i have no problems for now its great bike :D

@7royalseven7 5 жыл бұрын

that is completley anoing . Happy with my Beta RR300 Racing 2017 , some of the issues of the tpi an the Husqvarna should be solved ... read something about some Problems with broken Oiltanks .

@TheDirtbikeRider 5 жыл бұрын

oil tank cracking is first issue, i changed 3 tanks on my bike

@xterrential 5 жыл бұрын

@@TheDirtbikeRider time to get a Beta

@aevan104 5 жыл бұрын

I love my 17 300rr. Best boke ive owned

@kosteros 5 жыл бұрын

Do you think it's specific to region where the bike was bought? I mean ... does this happens only to US models or european too? we have 3 TPI in our group in poland which still working good.

@EdVenture547 5 жыл бұрын

It appears that bikes running at altitude get a richer mixture which certainly helps longevity, are u riding above sea level?

@ViktarMikalayenka 5 жыл бұрын

saw 4-5 cases in Russia.

@flagovhate 5 жыл бұрын

@@EdVenture547 usually it's the opposite. Higher altitude means less air, less air requires less fuel.

@EdVenture547 5 жыл бұрын

Flag Ov Hate correct that is what should happen however the standard mapping profile appears to provides a richer mixture at altitude and very lean at sea level. Sea level bikes need remapping to be rich enough to run correctly, in my opinion......all related to emission compliance requirements.

@SkinnySkinch 5 жыл бұрын

A lot of the bikes in this video looked to be European models you can see the light switches on bars North American bikes don’t come with turn indicator lights and switches.

@garycsfunlife 5 жыл бұрын

It's like a nightmare I had once ! Horror show 🤨 ! Ty

@taffyboy07 5 жыл бұрын

My 2018 300 tpi has never let me down, picking up my new 2019 300 tpi in 2 weeks.

@philipp4109 5 жыл бұрын

Oh shit , they made reverse for them Now?

@user-fz8fy4zl1c 2 ай бұрын

Reverse comes free😂

@majkutisusernameom 5 жыл бұрын

I'd call some of it ''childhood illnesses''...it's a new thing, needs time get better a little

@nestserau 5 жыл бұрын

Lijevi Desni Yes and they want their customers to pay for it.

@majkutisusernameom 5 жыл бұрын

@@nestserau yeah...

@dominickjohnston5881 5 жыл бұрын

A 300 2 stroke with a lectron carb makes it the same as a 300 TPI. Only difference is, you don’t have to worry about the oil pump going out. And there’s no true “rev limiter”

@karlmason6145 4 ай бұрын

I have had mine coming up to 130 hours will do a piston and rings at 150, I love it best bike I've had and I have had a lot.

@bryanroberts 5 жыл бұрын

I am not a die hard ktm fan but you can compile this type of footage with any bike brand? a couple of these in original videos had aftermarket tunes that failed. There has been reports of dealers not priming the oil pump right causing engine failures. Others had bad batteries...Who holds a bike on the rev limiter that is super leaned out? oh almost all of those with a bad piston..i have 3 riders in our group with tpi 300s. One has 30plus hours and the other two have over 50..Not an issue... not one.. ALSO.. it's a brand new deal that needs a couple years to get the kinks out. Just by an xcw and run a lectron.

@keithtravelrn 5 жыл бұрын

so your argument is buy a carburetor.... then why even spend 10k on a bike????

@twincitiesrider8103 5 жыл бұрын

@@keithtravelrn I just cannot understand buying a premium enduro in general. If the bikes were the same price as a dual sport, sure. I could get behind giving up reliability for performance, but pay 4000 dollars additional and give up reliability for power? no thanks

@keithtravelrn 5 жыл бұрын

@@twincitiesrider8103 dual sport won't due in the single track I race.. not even close...but my point was you don't but a10k bike to put on a different way to get air in... and they can't just get a lectron... due to oiling system... you made it seem a simple fix...its not. So imo you stick with non tpi until they get there shit together.

@danno02 5 жыл бұрын

You stole my thunder! I ride 2012 300 xc-w with a Lectron. Not sure I'm buying into this TPI deal yet. Like you said, it's really new and needs time. It may just turn out to be the greatest since sliced bread. But for now, it's Lectron for me. Sea level to 8000 feet, no adjustments.

@pik2490 5 жыл бұрын

Any brand!? Its well known that KTM does little r and d. Its given to the customer to test. Which I think is wrong.

@EdVenture547 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Dirtbike Rider, In my Opinion, All Emission Compliant two-stroke engines can only be compliant at the expense of sufficient lubrication to the engine!! Overheating and premature failures are due to the very lean mixtures of fuel and oil required for Emissions Compliance. Engine remapping fixes the problem however "remapping" makes the engine Non Emission Compliant! Previous to the Compliance requirements these same engines were very well sorted, low maintenance and reliable!! regards Edventure 547

@flagovhate 5 жыл бұрын

Emission requirements will be the death of all internal combustion engines :(

@domenjeram9180 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah they run load adjused oil pump that creates mixture from 80:1-110:1 too low even for oil pump

@EdVenture547 5 жыл бұрын

@@flagovhate yes, we are all being pushed very hard to the Electric Vehicles.

@TheDirtbikeRider 5 жыл бұрын

From my knowledge every TPI needs to run very lean not just for emission, if you insert rich mapping it will flood spark plugs. Some guys tested to make it richer with athena getdata kit ecu but its not working, something is wrong

@domenjeram9180 5 жыл бұрын

@@TheDirtbikeRideryes if its adjusted from factory to run specific ratio that means the injectors are not capable of transferring greater flow of fluids and they get clogged, just like running too rich mixture in carburetor, its also designed to separate fluid drops to evaporate easier and it cant do that with more fuel and even harder with more oil, but vapors arent comparable to fuids in capability of reducing friction so that may be one cause of excessive engine wear and I think the other may be load adjusted fluid delivery because there are so many factors to calculate in

@moronanticriss 5 жыл бұрын

Two lean?!?Dont know if new sensor will change something to that. Is there any way to adjust oil ratio the way they are made???

@mrkattm 4 жыл бұрын

Have you checked the rear tire pressure?

@Tibingi84 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent job compiling all of these together! These are brand new bikes from the best off-road manufacturer in the world, so this is quite disturbing. I actually have a friend that suffered the same issue when revving it high... Happy that I have a 2016 TE300! Carburator 2 stroke for life!

@TheGarnerjustin73 5 жыл бұрын

Not really the best at tpi 2 strokes, apparently lol.

@bigals.ktms.9937 5 жыл бұрын

10 failures trolled on the internet out off prob out of a couple off 1000 sold??

@bigals.ktms.9937 5 жыл бұрын

@NoNoNoNii I know truth hurts hey. Have a good day.

@Alex-us8cs 5 жыл бұрын

Well, no one said the bikes were in Perfect condition. Someone could crash, and fought , normal , but problem could appear later. Ktm do best bikes, sometimes bike can broke, but sometimes it can be owners fault, even if he Had no idea about it.

@eric_pr 5 жыл бұрын

@NoNoNoNii they all make Good offroad bikes but they are nothing compared to KTM

@UhYeahWhateverDude 5 жыл бұрын

I think right about know Ricky Brabec would take one over a CRF450 though...

@user-se7vt5ow4e 5 ай бұрын

I had a 2017 KTM that was practically bulletproof. My next bike will be a Rieju 300. Premix, carburetor, kick start and KYB suspension.

@abrahamstark2944 5 жыл бұрын

My xr200r model 83 is always a good camarade still working for 36 years...

@johnberry2877 3 жыл бұрын

Well Honda does make the finest engines in the world.. period! From bikes to cars and even jet aircraft they just do shift right the first time! If you ever get a chance to tour a Honda plant and a GM plant the difference will utterly amaze you! Honda plant you can damm near eat off the floor and a GM plant is scary to even breath in.

@abrahamstark2944 3 жыл бұрын

@@johnberry2877 wow nice commentary, I hear befora that Honda built aircraft

@georgemaniat7224 5 жыл бұрын

I was excited when i heard of 2 stroke injection enduro, it meant for me that the 2 stroke is not dead. But still I knew that I would not touch them for the next 5 or 10 years because they would certainly have issues. Let the rich guys play with them first and pay the company to upgrade the technology

@ohwell2790 5 жыл бұрын

How old are you that you can wait 10 years?

@georgemaniat7224 5 жыл бұрын

@@ohwell2790 First i didn't mean that i can wait, i meant that i have to wait cause if the 2t tpi issues are not sorted out, i simply can't afford it. But if you want to know I'm 24 years old

@elis740 5 жыл бұрын

@@ohwell2790 I am 33, and I plan on riding into my 80s at least. Vertigo Trials bikes have Fuel injection figured out. Now the MX bikes have to play catch up. I would love it if someone would put the direct injection that Rotax 850 E-TEC is running in a dirt bike. It is awesome, especially with a turbo.

@deborahchesser7375 5 жыл бұрын

Wow $12000 bike, that’s nuts! 86 IT 200 S no problems 33 years YAMAHA

@johnbergeson8180 5 жыл бұрын

I still have my 1986 Yamaha IT 200S. I never had a problem with it. I rode it for 10 years. Then in October 1996 I bought a 1997 KTM 250 EXC, and kept the IT as a back up bike. My brother has often rode the IT in the last 20 years. I have never had any trouble with my 1997 KTM. I was thinking about getting a new bike, but I don't like the $12,000 price tag and,I don't like the looks of them. I also discovered that these $12,000 bikes are junk and not the quality of my 1997 KTM. So I have decided to keep my old reliable 1997 KTM 250 EXC as my main bike and keep the old reliable 1986 Yamaha IT 200S as a back up bike.

@deborahchesser7375 5 жыл бұрын

John Bergeson newer isn’t always better that’s for sure. I go right on by lots of new bikes on the IT. Hang on to it you can’t replace it they are worth keeping

@NclsVer 5 жыл бұрын

Have the 300 TPI, 105 hrs on it and perfect. Got an issue on the day two of Roof of Africa, 3kms away from the finish line: bike didn t start anymore, battery was drained (forgot to switch off the override for the fan) and unfortunately the TPI can t start if the battery is fully flat (even with the kick). Had to finish by foot and come back the day after before the race with someone to take it out the mountain and push it downhill, bike started and i was able to race the entire track on day 3. Except that: never any single problem, love this bike!!!

@maxmurphya.7549 5 жыл бұрын

I love KTM, and love the idea of fuel injection but I knew it would have problems atleast the first couple years of production. That is exactly I'd choose the Ktm300xc, I hear with the Electron carb it pretty much seems fuel infected anyway.

@mateuszzarzeczny8896 5 жыл бұрын

Buy Japanese it’s true they have a little worse performance but much much better reliability

@antonglonner4687 5 жыл бұрын

What japanese 2 stroke Road legal Enduro should i buy?😂

@TOVi7777 5 жыл бұрын

@@antonglonner4687 WR250

@verttisyrjala2897 5 жыл бұрын

They dont have worse performance, only the stock 4 strokes have worse performance when compared to ktm

@addisonewing5506 5 жыл бұрын

mateusz zarzeczny not necessarily, my friend had a yz125 that went through 10 top ends in a year even with changing the air filter every ride and maintaining it properly. same thing with their yz250, shattered the piston even though nothing was wrong with the bike.

@verttisyrjala2897 5 жыл бұрын

@@addisonewing5506 Not the bikes fault.

@gulag_dt 4 жыл бұрын

For a 2stroke it's so necessary to get the right amount of fuel and oil I wouldn't put that much trust in to computers and pumps to do that

@Prospaero 2 жыл бұрын

Why not, computers are much more precise than humans

@AntiStressKit 4 жыл бұрын

Hi, I am an owner of a 2020 Husqvarna 150i, which shares the same KTM engine of the same size. 26 hours in, and the top engine failed COMPLETELY. As shown in the video, I experienced the same and the piston was completely gone, after only 26 (!) hours of gentle use. My bike returned to the dealership but for the past 4 weeks, no solution was provided and the dealer keeps dragging their feet . I have learned that I am not the first to return their bike on the account of similar issues, which have something to do with the TPI, but no one knows what is the exact root cause. I am utterly frustrated and suggestions will be greatly appreciated

@Endurel 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for posting whis, I love KTM but I wasn't sure if I should go with a TPI. I think I'll get a carburated one to be sure at least, I do not want more mechanical problems in my life xD.

@snowrider4495 4 жыл бұрын

This what I've heard and why I bought a yamaha also!

@cadwarrior 4 жыл бұрын

Mine is a 2017 with carb and run great, simple and easy to adjust with jetting, if i was in the shopping mode for a new 2020 bike, i would buy the Yamaha yz 250x with good old carb.

@ashleighspencer1348 5 жыл бұрын

Get a YZ250X problem solved

@xterrential 5 жыл бұрын

Beta 300rr or GasGas ec300 or anything but orange or blue/yellow/white

@benwright3314 5 жыл бұрын

Yamaha, honda, beta or gas gas didn't win the Dakar did they? No. Ktm did with husqvarna close behind(sister company) you go to any event and there's a sea of orange, why? Coz there the best

@blipco5 5 жыл бұрын

+Ben wright ...So you think the Dakar bikes are fresh off the showroom floor?

@H8er-Maker 5 жыл бұрын

@@benwright3314 Aside from the plastics & cases there isn't a KTM part on those bikes. Not 1 you can buy anyways.

@benwright3314 5 жыл бұрын

@@H8er-Maker there are plenty! Whilst I'm not saying they arnt modified, they use the same engines, gearboxs, forks and so on. Adam rieman inthink it was did something on it with Toby price with a full look at the bike. It's product development at the end of the day and they iron out issues to make it better. They transfer the tech and upgrades to the newer bikes...

@ryana3298 4 жыл бұрын

I have a 300 tpi never had a problem with it it’s the best bike I have ever rode idk why people are having problems it’s probably because they run 87 pump gas in it or they don’t read the owners manual

@reztxsoldier5841 5 жыл бұрын

I love My 98 model, i mix oil and gas... never had a problem with it :)

@A.Garland 5 жыл бұрын

In Germany we say: Kick Tausend Mal; Kinder Tret Mobil; Keine Tausend Meilen; So we drive the better Bike BETA!

@2wheelsoffroad730 5 жыл бұрын

I haven’t had any issues with my bike yet. I wish there was more info with the problems in this video so we could get some understanding of the potential failure points and how it happened. I know the first run of TPIs had bad oil tanks but that’s fixed for any bike that wasn’t bought when it was first released. For the piston scuffing vids I wonder what hours and it that was with the oil pump changed every 80hours or not. Looks like some of the bikes are modified? I wonder what mods and if it was a negative reaction to a mod. Some of the overheating maybe a bad thermostat? That can happen on any bike. I ride my tpi (with aux fan) on 115+ degree days sometimes and I haven’t had anymore overheating issues than I would on any other bike. I wish they would make a better oil filler cap. That leaks a few drops of oil every time you drop the bike. It’s more of a nuisance than anything.

@RhinoStar0 5 жыл бұрын

45 hours on mine, not ONE SINGLE issue. Purrs like a kitten.

@calvinouellette505 4 жыл бұрын

My '17 300 6day had zero issues last of the carbs and all I did was adjust jetting slightly with stock carb.

@Sertao2013 4 жыл бұрын

Rules when riding a KTM 1. You should always carry a tent and extra food . 2 You should never ride alone . 3 Always ride with a person that has a Honda , Kawasaki or Suzuki and a rope to pull you home . 4 Always have at least 2,000 in the bank for repairs . 5 Allow 1 week of riding to 3 weeks or more of repairs time .

@johnberry2877 3 жыл бұрын

My god that is so true!!! My buddy had a seca 750 Yamaha with loads of miles on it and it never made him walk. However, when he decided to ride his “PRETTY” Harley we always bitched because it never made it more than 90 miles without a breakdown and leaking shit everywhere. Always keep a rope under your seat if you ride with ANYONE who rides a Harley. My Honda has pulled his Harley home many times until we refused to ride with him unless he rode his Yamaha!

@milehighktm7872 5 жыл бұрын

Most of the up close pistons look like cold start damage. Which is rider failure and ignorance by over revving a cold engine. I have owned 5 KTM's from 2007-2017 and have never had a single mechanical failure.

@thedaredevil1907 4 жыл бұрын

How many where tpi

@ivancnh8667 4 жыл бұрын

@@thedaredevil1907 well he said 2007-2017 which are years where they produced carb only models yet he comments on the tpi bikes

@MrWalkerds 5 жыл бұрын

First thing we would do on the old oil injected yamaha blaster was get rid of the pump and run premix

@EdVenture547 5 жыл бұрын

Yes BUT you can't do that on the KTM!

@mikesimon9529 5 жыл бұрын

That's what I did to my Rd 400 I pulled the pump gear and change the carbs out of gas out of oil

@UncleStashu 5 жыл бұрын

^^^ what @Dirt Rider said. I also wonder if you've disabled the oil pump in your car and run premix there too?? ;o)

@jay3242 5 жыл бұрын

Just going to keep riding my 2012 250xcw.. never had a problem.

@donaldolin4616 5 жыл бұрын

At least there were no commercials.

@squirtsomedirt3161 5 жыл бұрын

The new TPI comes with reverse!?!? Sweet!

@superg8018 5 жыл бұрын

Lol

@mccranahan747 5 жыл бұрын

SOOOO GLAD I bought a YAMAHA yz250x instead of a ktm

@teepee4296 5 жыл бұрын

I know what that guy was thinking......”should never have sold my Honda!” 16 years & my XR has never let me down & has had minimal maintenance, just the important stuff to keep it sweet & it still runs like new !

@deborahchesser7375 5 жыл бұрын

Hard to believe they let quality control go out the window, especially KTM, until now I’ve never seen a Mikuni oil pump fail, ever!

@perkinsperkins785 5 жыл бұрын

Carburator ❤️❤️

@ViktarMikalayenka 5 жыл бұрын

Ktm become a bike for a rich guys or a professionals only. If you don't have official dealer in your country - you in crap because you have to read errors... and also update software(mapping) at least twice a year. Before you going to ride you can check next: 1. Oil pump works well: - check connectors(all connected, no bubbles in there); - just kick a kickstart few times lightly with your hand(you will grab some oil to the top so you will no get damage piston and cylinder, also you will hear the noise of pump working); 2. Update TPI software(,maps) at least twice a year(ktm will give a fuck on you if you come to them with broken cylinder... First what they ask you - do you updated maps with a last update #####?); 3. Maybe I'm doing something bad, but fuel injection run bike too lean.. so I still mixing some oil to the gas.. something about 40 grams for one tank of fuel.. 100 hours - like a new, no any bugs, lags and so on. No issues with starting, no problems on high and low rpms.. 4. Look carefully on oil which you use in oil tank (motul 800 2stroke oil will kill your bike - it usable only for premix in the gas). If you have no motorex in your country, use other oil motul 700 for example, oils for snow bikes works well also. 5. Clean and reoil your air filter more often(carb can manage with some sand, injector - not); 6. Replace mini filters in the fuel connector often, I'm doing it every 10 hours(cross guys doing that every oil change ( every 7-8 hours)); 7. Replace fuel filters in the fuel pump, at least every 80 hours(I'm doing it every 60 hours) don't buy ktm shit kits which cost 100$ - just get Mahle KL97 for 5$ and replace it.; 8. Also will be good to buy some sock for the fuel tank, you can bring some trash in to the tank whn you refuiling.

@romanharencak8068 5 жыл бұрын

Roger that.

@flagovhate 5 жыл бұрын

More maintenance than a 4 stroke >:(

@Bryan-Hensley 5 жыл бұрын

If you run oil in the gas, it will lean the mixture, not richen it. You are supplying less gas. Of course the computer might increase the gas amount

@flagovhate 5 жыл бұрын

@@Bryan-Hensley it will lean out the air/fuel ratio slightly but increase lubrication. It seems the engines are running lean on oil and lean on fuel, so a compromise must be made.

@Bryan-Hensley 5 жыл бұрын

@@flagovhate but it's port injection. The oil will only go to the top of the piston. It won't reach the crank and bottom of the piston. You might get a little extra oil on the top ring

@garrettstivers8209 5 жыл бұрын

47 hours on my husky TE300i and not one hiccup. 2 other guys I ride with have TPI’s and no issues. Had a Honda Accord that lost a motor at 20,000 miles....there’s always some bad ones in the bunch.

@Hutch_moto 5 жыл бұрын

Wow this is crazy , is ktm saying anything about this on a large scale. Guess I better hang on to my 2005 200 exc

@kantilil3387 5 жыл бұрын

beta 300 RR awesome ))

@enduroboi6780 5 жыл бұрын

Love my 250rr. Currently @ 95hrs with no problems at all. I did remove the oil injection though, didn't trust it

@TheDirtbikeRider 5 жыл бұрын

Best engine for sure !

@enduroboi6780 5 жыл бұрын

@@TheDirtbikeRider what issues are you having with your tpi ?

@bluedolphin5792 5 жыл бұрын

A ton of race miles on my 300 beta, not a single issue. Most reliable bike I've owned.

@xterrential 5 жыл бұрын

@@bluedolphin5792 fit and finish is a bit "buzzed after lunch wine" Italian tho. My '18 390 has a few quirks but other wise a great engine and frame/suspension

@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 5 жыл бұрын

I wish Japanese would catch up and start producing real Enduro and 2 strokes. I would have more confidence in quality.

@flagovhate 5 жыл бұрын

Get a yz250x

@Checkyoursix77 5 жыл бұрын

My 25 year old Suzuki RMX250 is as good as my new GasGas but much more reliable so I sold the GasGas ASAP. Only miss thee magic button sometimes.

@Lewiseyers 5 жыл бұрын

My Te300i been service correctly, sincenew never missed a beat, ever.. Awesome enduro... There's good reason most of these failures are here, most monkeys don't know about changing the oil pump for every piston ( 80hours) and they run the wrong plugs and heads... Mines never had so much as a blemish on the bore...pistons never failed ever...

@flagovhate 5 жыл бұрын

@@Lewiseyers just because you haven't had issues with yours doesn't mean there aren't actual design flaws related to poor design/implementation on these bikes. So you're saying the cracked oil tanks are cause the owners (monkeys) as you say, don't know how to service their bikes? Poor design is a poor design. "I only have to replace my oil pump at 80 hours" the fact that the oil pump needs to be replaced at 80 hours is a joke. How do you explain the engines running in reverse? Or hardly running at all when the throttle is held WOT. Also you said cause they're running different heads? Please explain. I don't own a TPI or even a KTM for that matter but i must call out a stupid comment when i see one, i bet you pay someone to work on your bike.

@desertrider8784 5 жыл бұрын

cool! i miss my 1985 rm 250 big time!!

@anguspinkerton8637 5 жыл бұрын

2016 300 exc 👍 can’t go wrong

@mirovaisanen3665 5 жыл бұрын

My Suzuki TS-R 125 2stroke 1990 or something like that haven't had any problems.... Have not changed the piston once...

@ZimmyF250 5 жыл бұрын

i hope they give you a new bike those bikes are so crappy for the price that is what you expect from a cheep Chinese bike very disappointing.

@ianjohnson5365 5 жыл бұрын

Hell even the cheap Chinese knockoff is more reliable lol

@aevan104 5 жыл бұрын

My chinese bike has been more reliareliable

@user-hx4ly6cr6x 5 жыл бұрын

Привет англоязычным братьям!!!

@JoshuaCussins 4 жыл бұрын

I have 19 tx300 carbureted. The manual say to mix fuel oil mixture at 60:1. That is way to lean. I always run like 30-40:1. From what I hear. With TPI you can't adjust your ratio. It is set at 60:1. In my opinion that is close to twice as lean as it should be. If I had tpi I would still premix the fuel to compensate for lean oil delivery. So if I had tpi and premixed 60:1 before I filled the tank. The bike would mix my 60:1 ratio at its preset 60:1 ratio, resulting in a 30:1 mixture on intake stroke. You can see I dont trust 60:1 Thank you for sharing this.

@tlt907 5 жыл бұрын

I like KTM bikes in general and they've come a LONG WAY in the past 10-15 years but I just don't think durability/reliability is one of their main concerns when making bikes for the public.

@rolha666 5 жыл бұрын

Keep The Money

@soundslikeaplan841 5 жыл бұрын

KTM Sunday ATM Monday

@petergray5491 5 жыл бұрын

@@soundslikeaplan841 Keep taking the money !

@Yz250fx 5 жыл бұрын

Things have not changed since I started enduro in the 80's back then if someone showed up on some eurotrash you would think of a reason to call off the ride rather than tow them home. 2018 and it was erased from my memory and I got a ser 300 sherco 40 hours and it started going to shit, an expensive way to remember something I've known forever, 2019 yz250x problem solved come on yamaha release a 300 2t and put Europe back in its place please

@burstcasino 5 жыл бұрын

Don't hold your breath, but I'm with ya!

@JoshuaCussins 5 жыл бұрын

Japan vs Europe, either way the bikes aren't American. Alta was are best bet, give it a few more year and it'll be all electric,

@aevan104 5 жыл бұрын

@@burstcasino buy a beta. 80 hours no problems at all so far. Brilliant bike. I do wish yamaha would make a 300 2t though, i like yamahas.

@burstcasino 5 жыл бұрын

@@aevan104 Yup! Loving my '17 300 rr re.

@jonaswimmer2763 5 жыл бұрын

The fucking problem with any yz is that is not street legal compared to the exc from ktm and thats a big thing in europe i guess especially if you want to ride dualsport for example ... yamaha should bring out an 250 yz with lights, kickstart, electric start ... that would be the perfekt bike for hard enduro but also would be very good for some light adventure enduro riding

@josephmayer8880 3 жыл бұрын

Was this a 2018 TPI? I feel that the new models might have this worked out

@rogersiples3335 5 жыл бұрын

Read the manual - how to check if the oil pump is working and cold start cautions. Also when to replace the oil pump. Personally I'm sticking with a Lectron XC 300 (best all around bike).

@ck2503 5 жыл бұрын

If you think that's fun, I just purchased a 390 Duke last year as well as a 690 Enduro both of which have had the top end of the motor is completely replaced. The Duke also had the bottom end replaced and then KTM decided they were just going to buy it back from me. Hopefully these are the last of my issues but somehow I doubt it.

@TheDirtbikeRider 5 жыл бұрын

that sounds very bad !

@DirtBikeChannel 5 жыл бұрын

A few people asked me to watch this video and chime in, so I'm doing it. For the record, I an not looking to start anything, and I will likely not look back onto this thread, so if I don't respond to you, it's likely that it's just that I will never see your comment. I have now owned/bought 4 of these bikes (3 KTMs and 1 Husky) and tested a 5th from Husky that was on loan. They have run better than any other 2 stroke I've ridden and I haven't had a single problem (other than when I tried to use a different spark plug at someone's recommendation). In full disclosure, I haven't yet put more than 20 hours on any of them, but I have put nearly 100 hours on them cumulatively. Time will tell how far that goes, but I'm not any more worried about these bikes than any other bike. Last weekend, I just had my Honda motor lock up on me and was dragged back to the truck with what??? The KTM 300 TPI dragged my honda back to the truck :) Does that mean Honda sucks? No it doesn't. Things happen. The 2019 300 XC-W TPI is the best 300 I've even been around. Just adding my 2 cents. Yes, weird things happen, and nothing is perfect. I've seen bikes that don't run right and often times there is a simple solution to it that has little to do with the actual engine or fuel system. Sometimes fuel filters can be plugged, other times air filters are plugged. Other times silences are partially plugged. Sometimes things happen. All motors are ticking time bombs IMO. I still prefer the 250 or 300 XC for the suspension and gearing than these TPI bikes.

@mesbahe 5 жыл бұрын

No one cares about your opinion and I HATE YOUR CHANNEL

@taylorbeams2929 5 жыл бұрын

You can’t comment on bikes you have only kept for 20 hours.

@bikerdude6119 5 жыл бұрын

Who is this guy??

@krewcallegari2449 5 жыл бұрын

@@mesbahe yeah I paid attention to a couple of them but it didn't take long to realize he hasn't been riding 20 + years and didn't ever have a bike before the four-stroke era and he's only ridden late model stuff. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. I just assumed I was gaining knowledge from someone who has been in the game but man I'll tell you what now I can't even listen to his voice and there's no way he'd place top 5 and C-Class in our local hare scramble series. Again that doesn't matter but he's just a dirt bike nerd and I don't mean that in a bad way but that's not where I'm looking to get my info. I do like those cross training Enduro blokes and everything they stand for from what I can tell

@tareksaba1ify 5 жыл бұрын

You have a cool channel and you seem like a great guy Kyle who means well. I know you have owned a lot of bikes, tested them but you really dont have enough real experience. "Real experience " some one who grew up riding , racing, working on bikes , tuning from a young age. I have heard you say many things that were not right and made no sense . What you do have is enthusiasm , great gift of gab and willing to keep at it to grow your channel for your passion. I have been a motorcyclist singe age 8 and worked in the motorcycle industry for 35 years started with pushing a broom to owning a dealership and I raced 20 years, MX, Desert , Road racing. My advice is keep at it , join some races and hang out at a shop with a real tuner and start asking questions .

@ElisPalace 5 жыл бұрын

2 stroke bikes that dont need pre mixing have been around forever. obviously this fuel/oil injection system is new but my QR 50 had a separate oil tank and that thing is still going.

@user-fz8fy4zl1c 2 ай бұрын

My 1975 yamaha autolube still working fine, still on original piston everything! These new bikes really are tat,expensive tat that is!

@jamesgeorgevellavella1961 2 жыл бұрын

I’ll change ecu from the start for more oil going to motor but unfortunately relying on an oil pump which seems to be inferior or not up to the job. I’m about to buy new but I might wait for the 2022

@Dat_Sun 2 жыл бұрын

My new 22 te150i is at the Yamaha Dealer at this moment. After just 17 hours, the bike started acting up with all the typical issues at once, for no apartment reason. Many failed attempts to repair, trading it in on a new reliable Yamaha.