I feel like this is a systemic issue within “missionaries” I use the word lightly here. I have known a few people working in another large organization that stay in because they have supporters that pay their bills but I don’t think their heart is truly in it for the right reasons. I also had a relative that wanted to be hired by a church in a paid position for youth when I know his personal life would disqualify him 10 times over. Thankfully he did not get the position because he didn’t want to go through a mandatory psychiatric evaluation before getting hired, I would have contacted the church and let him know who he really is.

When you have an altar with fire but no Lamb, you have strange fire. Prayer was bigger than Jesus, So God divided it. God loves the Son not ministry.

Not feeling grace to get a job doesn't mean you don't have to pay rent, even if it's genuine and not just being lazy.

The answer is that such people are leeches. I'd kicked them out, but I know what it's like being engulfed in such a circle. It's like a spell of blindness cast over you and you don't even realize the craziness and absurdity of it all. I'm almost 10 months out of my old charismatic church and have deconstructed myself, but to build up my personal faith again. It took me 8 months to get rid of the most gnaring false teachings.

Israel spent 33 years non stop in Tabernacle of David. GOING TO CHURCH and ministry is not something that transforms the adamic nature in men. The IHOP place lost focus of Jesus as a Person and His nature becoming your nature to OVERCOME THE SIN NATURE. INSIDE...

Those people are the Lord's superstars boomboom. Make sure he knows how much you appreciate him!

Me too

The Bible says "don't even eat dinner with in flagrant sin " if all his RRPEATED Controllimg immoral anti Christian affairs were well known then WHY was he a popular known leader not "distanced from" I was there during conferences when in hindsight was during the affairs? The Boys Club. I always refused to celebratize fellow Christians. Or anybody. Not about fan club .I believe that last mostly PC prophetic which has gone dark Occult plus cult following and darling celebrities is one Great Bible to be Cautious and Ever Micah 7:5/ Psalm 118:8-9 Just a lost lesson on modern day "seems hip cool" but false mixture celebrity. EVIL temple office OH Woe Eli and his 2 sons. Same I Samuel 1 harmful Eli. Prior to God's Ichabod to usher in God's New prophetic Day. .. Like NOW God bless!😂😊

I’m convinced that it’s reasonably certain that before the end of 2024 that IHOPKC will be subject to a formal investigation by the U.S. Securities Exchange Commission (SEC) for ‘significant financial irregularities’.

Mike hired a RICO lawyer. He knows he’s been shuffling funds and properties…’Racketeering’ is what Mike is bracing for. His wife Diane just closed down her real estate company. She was the agent for the ministries on all these property acquisitions…she wld receive huge fees as the agent and broker. There’s going to be a huge tangle of personal and ministry funds to be unwound. This is THE reason Bickle could not afford to hv a 3rd Party come in and look things over. Once the books r opened, the goose is cooked. Or if the police do their job, since the victim has told the police she was 14 when Mike SA’d her…since there is no statue of limitations in Missouri on SA w a minor, he will be arrested and sent to jail to await trial, if he’s treated like other Preds. I read fr the original 14yro who is now an adult, that she had a lengthy interview w the authorities there and she felt it went pretty well. Naturally, they will now do their investigation…but things are ongoing.

@@marymauldin1 Well said. I also can't get out of my mind how he had heavy outside doors installed in his office with double deadbolts locking from the outside(!) & peepholes. As a former pastor I cannot think of a single reason a pastor would ever do that (aside from those that are nefarious). Along that vein, I am anticipating that one of these days the list of prominent Christian leaders who visited Epstein Island will be released. That'll be a game-changer.

Thank you Troy. The doors are very problematic. Every Pastor I’ve ever know always insisted on his office doors standing open with the exception of when in the office alone doing sermon preparation or in Prayer. To me, this entire faux ministry should be ended, properties sold, actual victims provided for and for Anathema to be spoken over it. Let the Body of Christ know the wretched details…the deception, which is the sin of witchcraft…so The Fear of Our Lord God be known and seen around the globe for the purrgng and thereby purifying of The Church . @@TroyStevens430

Also, the Epstein island comment is interesting. You may most certainly be correct.

And what about the other affair that she was on the rebound from?

@BaIaamsasss I agree completely.

Yes, women also have moral agency and culpability when it comes to adultery etc. Not everyone actually is just a victim.

Certainly was in an environment for it to be easy.

I don’t believe we can give her a pass. There’s no way that a grown woman could have an affair for a number of years and still be considered innocent.

@@user-bn3sj6pm4i@user-bn3sj6pm4i I'm sorry, but it sounds like you do not understand the dynamics of manipulation, grooming, and trauma. Mental health is my field as a Christian therapist, and understanding how people are manipulated is intense and sad. We are not saying she wasn't wrong, but it is obvious that she really needs some help and support to heal and restore her relationship with God. She will never be in ministry again, undoubtedly, but we should not judge her unrighteously or cast stones. Jesus would tell her to repent, go and sin no more (if she is truly repentant), and understand she needs healing. God never wants us to throw away sheep, even when they stray. We must be like Jesus and love her through this with exhortation and righteous discipline, not hurt her more. Hopefully, she will confess and restore her relationship with Jesus. Besides, this is evidence of how satan is attacking the church. We need to pray for everyone there.

Her repentance is what I'm praying for.

I just hate suicide after losing a Christian friend

Indeed. 🙏🏾

@@jodikeehn4581 - yes. ❤️

You all need to shut up!! Gossip is a definite sin and no different. Vain babbling. Not helping a brother or sister at all!!!! Let The. Father deal with it in his way. You seem to sound a little to happy to expose sin. Please stop and get on your knees for those who have been struggling as we all do at times.

Victim blaming. Focused on the wrong thing.

@@sarahkokura6349Sin is sin silly goose.

I hope Alan Hood is not part of IHOP….

I agree about going away to college and following a more normal path. I think that’s why a lot of these victims/perpetrators fall into these scandals. They haven’t developed critical thinking skills you get from having real life experiences. Misty was also homeschooled her entire life. I wonder if that has anything to do with her life choices.

Still just the beginning

@@TheBlogWasWendi She was elevated at a young age. Then probably felt like she could not leave to get educated.

I understand exactly what you mean about mind games. Shalom little sister.

Most young people, even young adults aren't mature enough to make lifetime commitments and devote themselves to someone's vision without 1st getting their own spiritual footing. They are easily manipulated by unscrupulous leaders using spiritual and authoritarian manipulation.

Prob MB was the first affair

False. Please study hum@n tr@fficking. I do this type of work. I think there is so much more involved here... Firstly, she "confessed" bc Prosch had convinced her, just as MB had convinced the women he'd abused that they'd sinned. Why is it that we can see it with them, but not with Misty? Again, this is a situation of clergy sexual abuse and this one goes a little further bc he'd blackmailed her. Why was she drinking and why did she use drugs (regarding that police stop)? What was she medicating? We have got to start reading between the lines. Misty has been repeatedly psychologically abused. In all of my work with hum@n tr@fficking @bolition, this is the quintessential story of the "boyfriend" who gained the woman's trust in order to take advantage of her convincing her that she was guilty of doing wrong. In hum@n tr@fficking, women are told that her family won't want her bc now, she's dirty and will be rejected, so she stays with the trafficker and this is exactly what she did. We have got to start seeing these things as "more than meets the eye." Misty was repeatedly psychologically abused. Who's the other man? Someone else started this process and I wonder if that man was also a spiritual father. Why was Prosch several years older than her? Why did he have her convinced that he wanted to marry her? He lied to her over and over. He manipulated her and it even says that he does this, that this is something he purposefully does. He cheated on his first wife with the woman who became his second wife, so then, he pursued Misty. Again, he is several years older than her, which tells us that this so-called "relationship" most likely started as her seeing him as a spiritual father. Finally, another extremely important detail that cannot be overlooked is that she lived with him for 2 yrs, not bc she loved him, but bc he had blackmailed her and she did "whatever he wanted." Let that sink in. It's absolutely disgusting and he should be in jail. Let that sink in. She was trying to get access to his devices to delete the blackmail info and as soon as she was able to do that, she got away from him. This is NOT an affair, but he has convinced her that she is guilty. Misty NEEDS intense complex trauma therapy and we have GOT to see this and seek to get her help.

Why didn’t she confess to another trusted leader in IHOP and finally tell them what Prosch is doing. She would be better off confessing all her secrets and the manipulation of Prosch to another leader. Hiding secrets means you are playing Satan’s game and you are also manipulated by demons.

@@PeacefulWarrior000 This does NOT qualify as human trafficking. She was a willfully compliant adult and has been engaging in sinful behavior for years. They ALL have. You're smashing a square peg through a round hole.

@@edentoeden1545 I never said it WAS hum@n tr@fficking, but it's absolutely like it. That's why I encouraged everyone to study it. It's the "boyfriend" scenario. Do you work with it? Her story is NOT a love story and I'm almost positive she's calling it that bc he still has the blackmail against her from the first person who also psychologically and emotionally abused her.

Absolutely.

Amen. This is the Lord’s doing. He is behind this shaking and exposing. We need to pray for everyone involved for a spirit of repentance and fear of the Lord.

@@marcusvisser4085 Amen, I agree with your words. I found myself Praying all through the night for Misty and this very tragic scandalous sin . I pray those who truly love the Lord will totally repent and not make lies their covering. The secret things belong to the Lord, and the things he reveals belongs to us to do that is Righteous before him.

If she wants to come and pray after a time of counseling and healing, fine. She is in no way qualified to lead worship, again.

@@squeeks40 100%. People would want to see her and its not the time. Not to mention Jerusalem Syndrome is legit! She needs to get help at home first. I hope her friends here will tell her so! Its not the same place as when she was here last.

Praying for all in Israel

Wow! Your comment is so spot on. You sound like an amazingly compassionate person. Please, please know millions of Christians in America support Israel!

❤❤❤❤❤

Exactly.

Maybe she chose to stay silent all along to protect her career reputation and MB. She's a grown woman who chose to maintain a v deceptive persona and lifestyle. Running off to Israel next - to try to look and feel super-spiritual? Maybe try staying home, work as a janitor at a local, summer campground, serve the community in a humble, meaningful capacity that provides no recognition, stop 'performing' altogether to heal from this worldly ihop fake church, pathetic mess.

Ummm was she 35?

Agree! And no one has even brought up Paul Cain and his sexual sin! Or what about Bob Jones? He came to WA state for a Vineyard conference at Lee Benetts church in Bothell. During his time there 'ministering' prophetically, to women, alone. He was getting them to undress! I know this because my church leadership was notified privately after the conference about his behavior and counseling was offered to any of our women who had experienced this bizarre sexual behavior by Bob Jones during ' private' ministry!!!! Mike Bickles personal prophet. I can't remember how many times I've listened to Mike re-hashing Bob Jones direct connection to God!!!! This is the biggest mess of sexual sin I've ever seen in the church, and I've been saved 50 years!!!!! Jesus needs to come back - soon

You, nor I, know what was going on in her life behind her behaviour. We don't know what was in her heart when she was on stage leading worship. Was it the one place she felt safe and close to God? Were there times she felt far from God during worship knowing how messed up her life was? ( btw: who led her into "romantic worship?") There is a video clip of her called "Was it Worth it?" In it she shares that she gave up a lot (if not most) of her money along the way, gave up a future of being married and having children all for God with whom she claimed she was his bride. Where did she get such an idea and desire to live like this? To me, it smacks of MB's teachings about the Bridal Paradigm which is false doctrine. Like others have said, Misty should get away from all things IHOPKC (including her desire to go to a prayer room in Israel) and get "deprogrammed." Her healing, imho, depends on this.

Satan, in case some of you didn't know...

Woah

Strange fire offered up and those 2 boys were struck dead. Then Eli as well had a great fall on his neck because he would not deal with his sons. God wants this now dealt with. He will have a spotless Bride!

Good one

@LittleCreek30 I’ve been thinking the same thing. She said this secret person “found his identity in sin” (which could describe Mike, as he has lived in sin for last 40 years) and wrote that this person would “say he was like David,” which is exactly what Mike Bickle has been quoted as saying multiple times. She also described this secret person as being “well-known.”

Yes and why would she go to great lengths to try and delete this info Kevin had on her affair if it wasn’t to protect someone like Mike? If it were just a regular guy she probably wouldn’t be as scared as she claimed.

@@LittleCreek30 Exactly. And the group she set up online that is supposed to be against all of the Jane Doe’s sounds exactly like something Mike would tell one of his victims to do, based on past emails and texts of his that have been made public.

@@janeylynn5934Misty set up a group online against the Jane Does??

Why is she trying so hard to defend him?

Absolutely

Every aspect of Christianity is a grift in this country. Trump headlines the march for life weeks after arming saudi Arabia It's all a dog and pony show it always has been. Jesus would have probably got called out if there was social media as well

Idolatry and clear violation of rightly valuing fellow workers(supposed) of God.

They're not! A Christian by definition is someone who has the Holy Spirit of God indwelling (John 14:16-17, Romans 8:9, 2 Corinthians 13:5) and the Holy Spirit does NOT make one *worse* than the lost world....

False. Please study hum@n tr@fficking. I do this type of work. I think there is so much more involved here... Firstly, she "confessed" bc Prosch had convinced her, just as MB had convinced the women he'd abused that they'd sinned. Why is it that we can see it with them, but not with Misty? Again, this is a situation of clergy sexual abuse and this one goes a little further bc he'd blackmailed her. Why was she drinking and why did she use drugs (regarding that police stop)? What was she medicating? We have got to start reading between the lines. Misty has been repeatedly psychologically abused. In all of my work with hum@n tr@fficking @bolition, this is the quintessential story of the "boyfriend" who gained the woman's trust in order to take advantage of her convincing her that she was guilty of doing wrong. In hum@n tr@fficking, women are told that her family won't want her bc now, she's dirty and will be rejected, so she stays with the trafficker and this is exactly what she did. We have got to start seeing these things as "more than meets the eye." Misty was repeatedly psychologically abused. Who's the other man? Someone else started this process and I wonder if that man was also a spiritual father. Why was Prosch several years older than her? Why did he have her convinced that he wanted to marry her? He lied to her over and over. He manipulated her and it even says that he does this, that this is something he purposefully does. He cheated on his first wife with the woman who became his second wife, so then, he pursued Misty. Again, he is several years older than her, which tells us that this so-called "relationship" most likely started as her seeing him as a spiritual father. Finally, another extremely important detail that cannot be overlooked is that she lived with him for 2 yrs, not bc she loved him, but bc he had blackmailed her and she did "whatever he wanted." Let that sink in. It's absolutely disgusting and he should be in jail. Let that sink in. She was trying to get access to his devices to delete the blackmail info and as soon as she was able to do that, she got away from him. This is NOT an affair, but he has convinced her that she is guilty. Misty NEEDS intense complex trauma therapy and we have GOT to see this and seek to get her help.

Dont judge her. We are commanded to love her. I’m glad none of you have never committed a sin. Cast the 1st stone?????

@@leenieledejo6849 Oh stop. Traumatized people need healing, not your religious spiritual judgment. Goodness! I pray that trauma never ever comes to you. Cannot believe how judgmental this comment is...wow...just wow.

@@PeacefulWarrior000 I think we really don't know either way whether she is truly born again or not. I think it's ok to give her the benefit of the doubt, but also the fruits of her sin, someone could say she's not. I really don't know. I've liked some of her music in the past...it's really a sad situation. It sounds like his soul is in danger though I would say from the little I've read. But God is probably using all this pain and exposure to bring a lot of these people to him...hopefully that is the case and his heart isn't too hardened to repent.

You mean the similar songs to what's in the Bible?

@@JimAndBess1 well if you refer to Song of Solomon which is literally about someone’s lover …. You can say what you want but over and over again these type movements have deeply rooted sexual sin in them .. biblical worship music has been happening for centuries and this modern sensuality is nothing more than that.. modern and sensual … I believe people are sincere but it doesn’t negate the facts

@@thepickinpreacher When the Bible refers to us as the Bride, pure and holy, do you think that God does not want a deep and emotionally intimate relationship with us? Do you hold to one of those intellectual knowledge only doctrines? I'm not by any means putting God on the level of some demonic spirit lover, but the Bible is full of calls to intimacy with God.

Right! And why would she go through such great lengths to delete the proof of her last affair if it wasn’t someone “great,” like M.B. She was trying to protect him too no doubt.

@@LittleCreek30If that’s the case, then she might’ve been groomed by HIM (which laid the foundation for all that followed)

Right. Who was she protecting that hard? 🤔

@user-bn3sj6pm4iwho says she’s not? She’s simply disappeared.

False. Please study hum@n tr@fficking. I do this type of work. I think there is so much more involved here... Firstly, she "confessed" bc Prosch had convinced her, just as MB had convinced the women he'd abused that they'd sinned. Why is it that we can see it with them, but not with Misty? Again, this is a situation of clergy sexual abuse and this one goes a little further bc he'd blackmailed her. Why was she drinking and why did she use drugs (regarding that police stop)? What was she medicating? We have got to start reading between the lines. Misty has been repeatedly psychologically abused. In all of my work with hum@n tr@fficking @bolition, this is the quintessential story of the "boyfriend" who gained the woman's trust in order to take advantage of her convincing her that she was guilty of doing wrong. In hum@n tr@fficking, women are told that her family won't want her bc now, she's dirty and will be rejected, so she stays with the trafficker and this is exactly what she did. We have got to start seeing these things as "more than meets the eye." Misty was repeatedly psychologically abused. Who's the other man? Someone else started this process and I wonder if that man was also a spiritual father. Why was Prosch several years older than her? Why did he have her convinced that he wanted to marry her? He lied to her over and over. He manipulated her and it even says that he does this, that this is something he purposefully does. He cheated on his first wife with the woman who became his second wife, so then, he pursued Misty. Again, he is several years older than her, which tells us that this so-called "relationship" most likely started as her seeing him as a spiritual father. Finally, another extremely important detail that cannot be overlooked is that she lived with him for 2 yrs, not bc she loved him, but bc he had blackmailed her and she did "whatever he wanted." Let that sink in. It's absolutely disgusting and he should be in jail. Let that sink in. She was trying to get access to his devices to delete the blackmail info and as soon as she was able to do that, she got away from him. This is NOT an affair, but he has convinced her that she is guilty. Misty NEEDS intense complex trauma therapy and we have GOT to see this and seek to get her help.😮

And she took to social media to attempt discrediting MB Jane Does.

This kind of mindset is probably why IHOP is caught up in sin. Legalism leads to lawlessness.

Choosing an aberrant lifestyle and yet standing on the platform declaring oneself celebrate for life is conflicted. Choosing to be in affair with a married man is a choice. All of it, gleefully. Then smugly speaking out against the courageous Jane Does….seeing these things and speaking to them is not legalism. It’s broken hearted outrage that our Lord’s Church are under this type of ‘leadership’ which is wrongfully extolled as The Holy Spirit. It’s nauseating that millions have been misled, deceived into thinking these platforms ‘leaders’ are following our Lord Jesus. And now, finally, last night several ministers have signed a letter, saying speaking to these double-life leaders. Blessings and Grace to you. @@DB-ug3nf

Exactly! How many 40+ year old women move in with their blackmailers? Come on! Wake up! She shacked up with him because she wanted to live a sexually immoral lifestyle. Mike Bickle could’ve easily threatened KP with a lawsuit if they were really worried about being exposed. But no, Misty decides to shack up with her 69 year old boyfriend.

Sadly it sounds like her "ministry" (built on sand) became her idol, either due to the fame, power and position (or "security"?) it afforded or the income. But that's just my opinion. It's Biblically true though that if you're born again/born of the Spirit and JESUS is the centre of your life then you FLEE from sexual immorality (1 Corinthians 6:18) and every other sin, even if means losing "everything" i.e everything the world says you "need".

From day one

I wish I could repost this 100000000000000x. Ihopkc is a total mess

if people would stop funding the supposed ministry, it would dry up and shut down

I'm a new Christian..Is this something that Jesus can't heal? Can redemption come from this? I love the prayer room it's where I turned to Jesus..

really? are you JESUS? The Savior & Judge?

I had a similar experience. I even had a dream a few years ago that Misty was in sexual sin but I didn't know what it meant

I agree completely. Had her songs early on and then stopped listening later. I was very unsettled.

I don't know if this has anything to do with what you were discerning, but I have brought up MB's teachings on the Bridal Paradigm (based heavily on the Song of Solomon) a few times. Does anyone else think these teachings could be partially responsible for the sexual sin and SA that have been happening there? If so, should there not be a public retraction of some kind by IHOPKC?

@@cult11absolutely!

@@cult11 keep people up late praying, no food for days, teaching on Song of Solomon.... what could go wrong?

Good point!

Agreed

How blinding sin does work. The whole web of lies, adultery, fornication causes great offence to His precious Name.😢

Man, NO JOKE!

It really does seem that ihop was built in part to supply older men with young girls.

Shut up with your gossiping!!!

We all ought to have been praying more for leaders. We were all focused here on 1st commandment - worship. This was Satan:s job title in heaven, of course he's going to rage, pull out what stops he can and shut it all down. This is his goal. When we get our hearts away from true love of God, of course the enemy has a door in. I repent for not praying more for the leaders. And I'm thankful for all the good things I did learn regarding 1st commandment, which the American churches need to know. Let's all pray for the churches and leaders in the body of Christ. I Tim. 2:1-2 so that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all Godliness and reverence. We are all sinners saved by grace and God has used us. When His judgements fall, it's time for us all to ask, "Lord, examine my heart and see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the path of everlasting life!" Ps. 139:24

I'm not completely sold on the idea it's MB, but I don't see all these figures like Joel R. and Stephen M. spending much time or burning a lot of goodwill to expose ME unless it's somehow tied to MB. I suspect they wanted her to confess so they could build the case against ME. I also don't see TRR bothering much about ME unless it's related directly to MB, because ME is a bit player in the MB story and has already left.

That makes sense to me

Agree!

False. Please study hum@n tr@fficking. I do this type of work. I think there is so much more involved here... Firstly, she "confessed" bc Prosch had convinced her, just as MB had convinced the women he'd abused that they'd sinned. Why is it that we can see it with them, but not with Misty? Again, this is a situation of clergy sexual abuse and this one goes a little further bc he'd blackmailed her. Why was she drinking and why did she use drugs (regarding that police stop)? What was she medicating? We have got to start reading between the lines. Misty has been repeatedly psychologically abused. In all of my work with hum@n tr@fficking @bolition, this is the quintessential story of the "boyfriend" who gained the woman's trust in order to take advantage of her convincing her that she was guilty of doing wrong. In hum@n tr@fficking, women are told that her family won't want her bc now, she's dirty and will be rejected, so she stays with the trafficker and this is exactly what she did. We have got to start seeing these things as "more than meets the eye." Misty was repeatedly psychologically abused. Who's the other man? Someone else started this process and I wonder if that man was also a spiritual father. Why was Prosch several years older than her? Why did he have her convinced that he wanted to marry her? He lied to her over and over. He manipulated her and it even says that he does this, that this is something he purposefully does. He cheated on his first wife with the woman who became his second wife, so then, he pursued Misty. Again, he is several years older than her, which tells us that this so-called "relationship" most likely started as her seeing him as a spiritual father. Finally, another extremely important detail that cannot be overlooked is that she lived with him for 2 yrs, not bc she loved him, but bc he had blackmailed her and she did "whatever he wanted." Let that sink in. It's absolutely disgusting and he should be in jail. Let that sink in. She was trying to get access to his devices to delete the blackmail info and as soon as she was able to do that, she got away from him. This is NOT an affair, but he has convinced her that she is guilty. Misty NEEDS intense complex trauma therapy and we have GOT to see this and seek to get her help.

I'm disgusted and sorely disappointed that she confessed to STEENO but then threw him under the bus because he made the correct move to inform the executive members of ihopkc who circled the wagons and retaliated against STEENO in an effort to discredit and silence him. ME publicly accused STEENO of stealing $10,000 from ihop, which was proven to be an error on the part of ihop which was quickly resolved. But, EDWARDS made no move to retract her accusations against STEENO. In fact, the text screenshots indicate that she considered his reporting to ihop as a betrayal and considered him a traitor. She destroyed his reputation, got him evicted and basically shunned, and more. While she is a victim, she also clearly used her position of power to victimize and manipulate. She needs to repent for this.

She was in Glory of Zion last year for conference with Chuck Pierce ! I was there and I felt that there is something wrong with her and now I know !

She is still our sister. We all are sinners. Stop judging unless you expose your own sins. Just leave her in peace 🕊️

Eww, so gross! 🤮

Honestly we don't need anyone to do 24x7 prayers. Due to time zones, the whole world is praying round the clock.

That sounds peaceable at least ❤

@@elainep8873 Its not mandatory or done publicly. The 24 hr prayer in my little town is spending time before Jesus on certain days .You can pray what ever you want or follow our lords prayers and biblical prayers or just adore him, listen and write in a journal. There is a book there , that people write their prayers in and a book for answered prayers and thanksgiving.We believe that the bread becomes Jesus as he said "This is my body." "If you don't eat my bread you have no life in you" So when the bread is out, its a holy time for adoration of him.Its a sweet time with our Lord.The liturgy of hours is different and are the prayers of Christians for centuries.Bickel bastardized this beautiful framework for christianity. Of course we should pray always. The disciplined prayers and praying always are how society evolved over the centuries. Monasteries that prayed the Liturgy were places of advancement in science, agriculture, education and healing that towns grew around.With out them over the centuries we would not have hospitals,schools, universities and advancement in science and agriculture. Its historical.🌸💕🕊

That's beautiful!

Well the most important thing is that the Catholic Church come to the true saving knowledge of Jesus as found in scriptures and turn from man made traditions and falsehoods.

Yes this is absolutely right. Women are not mentally deficient as is being assumed in this video.

I believe the blackmail was a major consideration for the SA opinion.

Please understand that I’m not victim shaming. If you knew my story you would believe me. I just think that we need to be better at having understanding regarding what traumas and abuses may have contributed to our sinful behaviors, while at the same time not using these things to minimize a person’s behavior…. To the point of not even calling the behavior what it was - an affair. We can have compassion, forgive, investigate the why’s in order to stop the possible repeat of the sin and to bring real healing AND we can call the sin exactly what it was. By redefining and minimizing the deeply sinful behavior, we don’t help the sinner. What if a male predator who manipulates women (and worse) was beaten horribly by his parents, sexually abused as well, abandoned by his mom etc, would we call his abusive horrifying behavior something else? Would we redefine rape? Clergy abuse? I sure hope not!! To fix things and to really help and heal all people, we need to be truthful. We really can do this.

She was easily the number two power playerbin the IHOP world, but until situation number one gets revealed its hard to say what drove her to Prosch. I have an intuition that there is a Ghislaine factor here and am frankly shivering for more facts that possibly could surface about how dhe baited and coerced you g girls into Mikes hands. Thats undoubtedly happened the question is how deliberate she was about it

@@christianwoudenberg3393 would that be an inclination based on knowledge or a hunch? I personally don't know anything about these people, so don't feel comfortable in ascribing blame. This person Misty has given off troubling signals but that could just be her own cult indoctrination.

Exactly

False. Please study hum@n tr@fficking. I do this type of work. I think there is so much more involved here... Firstly, she "confessed" bc Prosch had convinced her, just as MB had convinced the women he'd abused that they'd sinned. Why is it that we can see it with them, but not with Misty? Again, this is a situation of clergy sexual abuse and this one goes a little further bc he'd blackmailed her. Why was she drinking and why did she use drugs (regarding that police stop)? What was she medicating? We have got to start reading between the lines. Misty has been repeatedly psychologically abused. In all of my work with hum@n tr@fficking @bolition, this is the quintessential story of the "boyfriend" who gained the woman's trust in order to take advantage of her convincing her that she was guilty of doing wrong. In hum@n tr@fficking, women are told that her family won't want her bc now, she's dirty and will be rejected, so she stays with the trafficker and this is exactly what she did. We have got to start seeing these things as "more than meets the eye." Misty was repeatedly psychologically abused. Who's the other man? Someone else started this process and I wonder if that man was also a spiritual father. Why was Prosch several years older than her? Why did he have her convinced that he wanted to marry her? He lied to her over and over. He manipulated her and it even says that he does this, that this is something he purposefully does. He cheated on his first wife with the woman who became his second wife, so then, he pursued Misty. Again, he is several years older than her, which tells us that this so-called "relationship" most likely started as her seeing him as a spiritual father. Finally, another extremely important detail that cannot be overlooked is that she lived with him for 2 yrs, not bc she loved him, but bc he had blackmailed her and she did "whatever he wanted." Let that sink in. It's absolutely disgusting and he should be in jail. Let that sink in. She was trying to get access to his devices to delete the blackmail info and as soon as she was able to do that, she got away from him. This is NOT an affair, but he has convinced her that she is guilty. Misty NEEDS intense complex trauma therapy and we have GOT to see this and seek to get her help.

Her career and the financial gain. She was a ⭐️

@@PeacefulWarrior000 more evidence please

Yep. Continuing to call all women "victims" , who were adults who made choices (that lasted for years) does not serve truth. It also is a slap in the face to REAL victims.

I agree - ppl who suppose to live for Christ would never bring shame to His Name -

Do you believe that spiritual abuse or abuse of authority is real?

@@jahbern of course. And she’s part of the problem.

We don't know. She could have been groomed and abused from the begining

I agree, and I hope you are right.

False. Please study hum@n tr@fficking. I do this type of work. I think there is so much more involved here... Firstly, she "confessed" bc Prosch had convinced her, just as MB had convinced the women he'd abused that they'd sinned. Why is it that we can see it with them, but not with Misty? Again, this is a situation of clergy sexual abuse and this one goes a little further bc he'd blackmailed her. Why was she drinking and why did she use drugs (regarding that police stop)? What was she medicating? We have got to start reading between the lines. Misty has been repeatedly psychologically abused. In all of my work with hum@n tr@fficking @bolition, this is the quintessential story of the "boyfriend" who gained the woman's trust in order to take advantage of her convincing her that she was guilty of doing wrong. In hum@n tr@fficking, women are told that her family won't want her bc now, she's dirty and will be rejected, so she stays with the trafficker and this is exactly what she did. We have got to start seeing these things as "more than meets the eye." Misty was repeatedly psychologically abused. Who's the other man? Someone else started this process and I wonder if that man was also a spiritual father. Why was Prosch several years older than her? Why did he have her convinced that he wanted to marry her? He lied to her over and over. He manipulated her and it even says that he does this, that this is something he purposefully does. He cheated on his first wife with the woman who became his second wife, so then, he pursued Misty. Again, he is several years older than her, which tells us that this so-called "relationship" most likely started as her seeing him as a spiritual father. Finally, another extremely important detail that cannot be overlooked is that she lived with him for 2 yrs, not bc she loved him, but bc he had blackmailed her and she did "whatever he wanted." Let that sink in. It's absolutely disgusting and he should be in jail. Let that sink in. She was trying to get access to his devices to delete the blackmail info and as soon as she was able to do that, she got away from him. This is NOT an affair, but he has convinced her that she is guilty. Misty NEEDS intense complex trauma therapy and we have GOT to see this and seek to get her help.

Agreed. Regardless he has admitted to being a big fan.

Financial gain….career. She also had freedom to travel. How common is it for women to report an abusive relationship with a man?

Cheating with a married man would age anyone prematurely...

She’s 45…this is what I read. Born in January of 1979.

I have said the same thing. Maybe, it’s the weight of the affair or the alcohol, but she looks about a decade older than she is.

I’m going back and looking at a KZfaq timeline of Misty, OneThing etc. She looked so fresh and pure and exuberant 9-12 years ago. And then she began to look worn, troubled, tired and pale. You can see where Beelzebub slithered in and knocked her off her feet. In that predatory environment created by Mike Bickle and his good ole boys, she was taken down and is currently held hostage by fear. She’s also deluded. I’m feeling impressed to go back in time and post prayers for that exuberant, worship warrior. What Beelzebub means for evil can be turned around for good….because that’s what God says. Genesis 50:20. 😊 I’m also praying Bickle, Prosch, Hartley, Houston, Swaggert are gonna be taken to that cosmic wood shed. Maybe they’ll find redemption. But this crappola gotta stop. This is the season for God’s justice.

@@marymauldin1thank you. 😊

Correct. She has demonstrated no such intent whatsoever. She’s all about self preservation.

False. Please study hum@n tr@fficking. I do this type of work. I think there is so much more involved here... Firstly, she "confessed" bc Prosch had convinced her, just as MB had convinced the women he'd abused that they'd sinned. Why is it that we can see it with them, but not with Misty? Again, this is a situation of clergy sexual abuse and this one goes a little further bc he'd blackmailed her. Why was she drinking and why did she use drugs (regarding that police stop)? What was she medicating? We have got to start reading between the lines. Misty has been repeatedly psychologically abused. In all of my work with hum@n tr@fficking @bolition, this is the quintessential story of the "boyfriend" who gained the woman's trust in order to take advantage of her convincing her that she was guilty of doing wrong. In hum@n tr@fficking, women are told that her family won't want her bc now, she's dirty and will be rejected, so she stays with the trafficker and this is exactly what she did. We have got to start seeing these things as "more than meets the eye." Misty was repeatedly psychologically abused. Who's the other man? Someone else started this process and I wonder if that man was also a spiritual father. Why was Prosch several years older than her? Why did he have her convinced that he wanted to marry her? He lied to her over and over. He manipulated her and it even says that he does this, that this is something he purposefully does. He cheated on his first wife with the woman who became his second wife, so then, he pursued Misty. Again, he is several years older than her, which tells us that this so-called "relationship" most likely started as her seeing him as a spiritual father. Finally, another extremely important detail that cannot be overlooked is that she lived with him for 2 yrs, not bc she loved him, but bc he had blackmailed her and she did "whatever he wanted." Let that sink in. It's absolutely disgusting and he should be in jail. Let that sink in. She was trying to get access to his devices to delete the blackmail info and as soon as she was able to do that, she got away from him. This is NOT an affair, but he has convinced her that she is guilty. Misty NEEDS intense complex trauma therapy and we have GOT to see this and seek to get her help.

Agreed.

They were demonic absolutely not working for God!

Absolutely. This whole ministry is under a Jezebel spirit. Christians need to be more discerning about the people they submit themselves to and under.

There. Is. NO. Such thing . As a jezebel spirit. It’s made ip

So gross / cheap entertainment

I said that earlier!

I would say "Christian" or "church-ian" because they're not Christian by definition: Romans 8:9. According to 2 Corinthians 13:5, they're reprobate. [Unless the Holy Spirit of God indwelling makes people behave worse than the world... Nope! It would be blasphemy to suggest so although some do 😢]

False. Please study hum@n tr@fficking. I do this type of work. I think there is so much more involved here... Firstly, she "confessed" bc Prosch had convinced her, just as MB had convinced the women he'd abused that they'd sinned. Why is it that we can see it with them, but not with Misty? Again, this is a situation of clergy sexual abuse and this one goes a little further bc he'd blackmailed her. Why was she drinking and why did she use drugs (regarding that police stop)? What was she medicating? We have got to start reading between the lines. Misty has been repeatedly psychologically abused. In all of my work with hum@n tr@fficking @bolition, this is the quintessential story of the "boyfriend" who gained the woman's trust in order to take advantage of her convincing her that she was guilty of doing wrong. In hum@n tr@fficking, women are told that her family won't want her bc now, she's dirty and will be rejected, so she stays with the trafficker and this is exactly what she did. We have got to start seeing these things as "more than meets the eye." Misty was repeatedly psychologically abused. Who's the other man? Someone else started this process and I wonder if that man was also a spiritual father. Why was Prosch several years older than her? Why did he have her convinced that he wanted to marry her? He lied to her over and over. He manipulated her and it even says that he does this, that this is something he purposefully does. He cheated on his first wife with the woman who became his second wife, so then, he pursued Misty. Again, he is several years older than her, which tells us that this so-called "relationship" most likely started as her seeing him as a spiritual father. Finally, another extremely important detail that cannot be overlooked is that she lived with him for 2 yrs, not bc she loved him, but bc he had blackmailed her and she did "whatever he wanted." Let that sink in. It's absolutely disgusting and he should be in jail. Let that sink in. She was trying to get access to his devices to delete the blackmail info and as soon as she was able to do that, she got away from him. This is NOT an affair, but he has convinced her that she is guilty. Misty NEEDS intense complex trauma therapy and we have GOT to see this and seek to get her help.

And she benefited financially and has her own career. Blackmail? Go to the police…go to a lawyer. According to ROYS, ME was free to travel and lived 2 yrs with a man she planned to marry. What is true and not true about ME? She says she’s not a victim. Is that true? She says Bickle is godly? Is that true? How many young women have been manipulated by a man? Many, I can assure you. We understand trauma and power dynamics Blaise….from education, training and work experience. Edwards wants it both ways. Which parts of her story is true? Many wanna be therapists are making assessments from speculation.

@Gettingold-nb4su she also was “A Star” in Bickle’s show. She has a good voice but this hynotic, soaking music, this prophetic garbage. She led them to them to him and i think it’s safe to say she embraces the “image” she’s developed at IHOPKC. People have been harmed -not just Edwards. Many people have been harmed by the long term psychologically damaging “meditation” Bickle and Edwards taught. There is data [facts] about psychological effects of long meditative altered states if consciousness. Edwards was a part of this and she was in leadership

@Gettingold-nb4su watch the video. Professionals hypnotists say this is intentional hypnotism….not just singing in your car. BDK did a video and Magical Mystery Church posted it. This is evidence that could be used in court because experts have identified the elements of hypnotism in this clip….which went on for hours…leading up to Bickle’s teaching and prophecy teams “prophesying to followers.” #Cult

@Gettingold-nb4su kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fcCUpLSl16u3aIU.htmlsi=YjU5ApGzUiWcfeJY

She was 35 as she was born in 1979.

Honestly, the age difference is not that big of a deal since they're both grown. 🤷🏾‍♂️ Just my opinion. An affair though... that's definitely an issue.

It’s all over “Christian” ( CCM) “Worship” music. I pray that God does a clean up in that world next. It’s absolutely DISGUSTING what is happening.

When Misty made her original statement on her Instagram, days after the scandal broke, there was a young guy who made a comment that basically confirms all of this, and eluded to her having an affair. I took a screenshot of it! Went back to look to see if it was still there, ( his comment) and it was gone. I have the screenshot.. I have been waiting for all of this to come out. I fear this young man is directly involved.. of course I don’t know for sure.. his comments were so painful I knew he wasn’t lying… 🙏🏻😓

I am assuming that she might have been innocent & naive in the beginning.I am also assuming that there came a time when she was convicted to take responsibility for herself & her own ongoing choices & actions & to repent.As we all must do.❤

Are any of them truely born again? I know we're all sinners saved by grace and in process of being sanctified, ( changed) renewed in our minds ,as well as the devil wants to take you out from preaching ,worshipping and proclaiming Jesus Christ in worship and prayer ,but without the true Holy Spirit working in you ,its impossible to live Holy before God ,and be genuine in it. The Bible says we will know each other by our fruit ,a goid tree cannot produce bad fruit and a bad tree cannot produce good fruit, those who are truely born again of God , Jesus Christ can and do commit sin ,occasionally and need to repent. God convicts them and leads them to repentance, but if we practice sin daily a life style ,all the while confessing Christ ,singing about Jesus , praying with others, they couldn't have been reading there Bible in context ,and continue in on going sin ,affairs with married people ,male or female, I don't know what Spirit they were operating in ,but it could not have been the Holy Spirit of the living God ,His presence , Jesus will say ,when you say Lord Lord I never knew you ,workers of iniquity, I pray for this whole movement, for them all to be saved ,given the true Holy Spirit, the produce the true fruit of the Holy Spirit. It is The absolute Grace,mercy,of God ,they are being exposed in order to save them for real . The true fear of taking God's name in vain in living such hypocrisy, and confessing to the world Jesus is your lord and Savior, not one of them should be leading spiritually, publically any one, JESUS CHRIST CAME AND DIED TO SAVE SINNERS, FROM WHAT? SIN, TO EMPOWER THEM TO WALK IN THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH OF GOD ALMIGHTY, THERE NEEDS TO BE EVIDENCE OF IT. LOVE, GODS LOVE, DOING UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE DONE TO YOU, JESUS SAID IF YOU LOVE ME ,YOU WILL KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS, NO WERE ALL GROWING IN GRACE ,FAITH, HOPE, AND LOVE, BUT FRUIT NEEDS TO BE GROWING ,OR IT ISNOT FROM GOD ,THE REAL GOD ,EXAMUNE YOURSELVES THE BIBLE SAYS IF YOUR REALLY IN THE FAITH OR NOT.GODS WORD IS TRUE.

I thought the same--possibly with another woman. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was with Mike Buckle's WIFE, Diane. That would bring everything full circle and explain Diane's strange silence. Time will tell. 😮

Sharing my thoughts…to become “famous” you have to choose to do something awful and usually there’s video proof that is kept for blackmailing purposes if needed. We just wouldn’t ever think that would apply in the christian world. Or someone can be put in a situation where bad things are done and are unknowingly video’d for blackmailing in order to control. I don’t know in this case but sounds a lot like the same kind of thing that goes on in the rich and famous world. A lot of times the wives are the handlers/controllers. I just think all of this is so much deeper than we all think. God will expose it all though. My heart is grieving. Evil hiding behind God/Jesus/Church is the absolute worst.

@@sharminholtzclaw7690 This is an excellent point and true. I think you are right! And what many people don't realize is how completely infiltrated the church is by those who oppose God. This is done by design and with intention. Jesus Himself warned us about this, but I think we grossly underestimate the extent to which it has happened.

She probably allowed herself to be blackmailed believing she would discredit God and the ministry if it came out ...that's messed up. She likely has no formal job qualifications since she arrived at IHOP as a teenager , where does she go from here. I can understand her being coerced in such a way but she needs to come clean.

Good call. Like many others I served time in Amway. Ihop does feel similar. The way they use language and keep people broke and busy. The way they edify leadership. The control they seek to employ. Thats a legit comp.

@user-hp1pk6zk3x The other Jane Does were teens when they got involved with MB! So no! AND Misty said it herself, she is not a victim. You go with YOUR idolatry somewhere else.

Reprobate, and shipwrecked.

Prophetic words directing my former church to pursue exactly this (i.e. the goal being to start producing CDs etc.) led the church to start investing money into worship music production and throw good money after bad and they then had to slash salaries, lost their building and shut down.

Very sad!

Her loyalty to this mystery man is so misguided and religious.

​​@@bobchevallier8456 Could be loyalty to a woman. Maybe Diane Bickle??

She probably subconsciously still “loves” him in some demented way. This is why sex outside of marriage is so detrimental because it’s not just a physical acts, it’s spiritual as well.

@@rebeccanewell3449 Or she's afraid that he'll reveal who the other guy is that she was having an affair with.

@rebeccanewell3449 sadly, you are correct.

Being in love w someone who isn't a godly man, who wanted to keep their affair top-secret and continuing to choose to live with them outside of marriage (bc they're not actually a godly man... ) What ??? Did it not ever occur to her that - that's not what any Christian, let alone Christian 'leader' would ever do, much less choose to do for years on end...May God have mercy on us all.

Absolutely right! I know for a fact that child abusers teach one another how to infiltrate a church, so they can gain access to children! They teach one another how to feign being born again, or even being delivered from a demon, so they can get sympathy and compassion from the church people. This is well known to Police presonnel who deal with these creeps and yet hardly anyone in churches is willing to hear this! They rely on background checks, which any Police Officer involved in child protection will tell you is of no real value in preventing the activities of Ped’s, because the vast majority of assaults are never reported and those that are, are not reported for many years, which means that most offences are not on any lists. The amount of manipulation I have seen by church leaders, in all sorts of situations, in my half century of being in churches, is beyond dangerous, it’s wicked! Power and control are the currency of most churches and it’s so subtle that most people don’t see it, even those who are guilty of practicing it, in ways that they are unaware is actually manipulation. This kind of environment is absolutely perfect for abusers and that goes for spiritual; abusers, sexual abusers, and the list goes on.

That’s what I was thinking

​@@jonathanrocha2275 Possible I was thinking it is probably Bickle but I think it said in the report Steeno said he told ME to report the first affair to Bickle and Greaves. If it's not Bickle it has to be either someone like Bob H. who was around IHOP and abusing women, or a famous person, possibly a famous person at IHOP, or a minor. I suspect she was worried about somebody else's ministry getting ruined if the secret came out, not just her own. Probably she was worried it would bring IHOP down. That could make her "deathly scared." She didn't seem deathly scared about people discovering she had a relationship with KP. Somebody said ME was told by Bickle she'd ride his chariot with him, and he broke up with Jane Doe 1 around the time IHOP started, which I think was about when ME arrived. Maybe it fits the timeline for it to be MB. He certainly had more opportunity than anyone else. We know that she was one of his targets. (The chariot line was used with multiple women along with the Diane death prophecy.)

@@user-bk3wo9ib4hOr did MB send her to do his dirty work for him?

It's become something of a trend that when a woman says "It was Bickle!" another woman who promised to never reveal that she and Bickle had a thing steps up, maybe a bit jealous and ticked off to learn she wasn't Bickle's only side-chick, to say, "It was Bickle with ME, when I was only 14!" And then, "But WAIT! I swore to protect him to the day of my death but now that I know there are OTHER chicks, I just gotta say ME TOO!" Perhaps Misty recoiled when she also learned of the other young women in Bickle's stable and lashed out at their 'accusations'? She may end up being the last Big Name to finally reveal the Big Secret that is probably just the Same Big Secret all the others swore not to tell.

@@katymckenna2550Great point. Despicable Bickle is the perfect descriptor for that guy. He has the motivation to calculate ways to take advantage of young women and orchestrate ways to keep them silent. But is too weak and cowardly to own up to his crimes. In the meantime, many lives are put on hold and held in limbo because of his sick narcissism. At least we get to see who some of those good ol’ boys are, while we wait. Separating the sheep from the ol’ goats is tedious. But maybe it’s necessary. 🐑 ? 🐐

Both the men and Misty messed up here.

I think that the harm she will cause is even greater than that of MB, because of her visibility on stage, and what she said and sang. She has a chance now to model public repentance....hopefully, that will happen. As for those who looked up to her: "Put not your trust in princes." Ps. 146@@user-bn3sj6pm4i

​@@user-bn3sj6pm4i False. Please study hum@n tr@fficking. I do this type of work. I think there is so much more involved here... Firstly, she "confessed" bc Prosch had convinced her, just as MB had convinced the women he'd abused that they'd sinned. Why is it that we can see it with them, but not with Misty? Again, this is a situation of clergy sexual abuse and this one goes a little further bc he'd blackmailed her. Why was she drinking and why did she use drugs (regarding that police stop)? What was she medicating? We have got to start reading between the lines. Misty has been repeatedly psychologically abused. In all of my work with hum@n tr@fficking @bolition, this is the quintessential story of the "boyfriend" who gained the woman's trust in order to take advantage of her convincing her that she was guilty of doing wrong. In hum@n tr@fficking, women are told that her family won't want her bc now, she's dirty and will be rejected, so she stays with the trafficker and this is exactly what she did. We have got to start seeing these things as "more than meets the eye." Misty was repeatedly psychologically abused. Who's the other man? Someone else started this process and I wonder if that man was also a spiritual father. Why was Prosch several years older than her? Why did he have her convinced that he wanted to marry her? He lied to her over and over. He manipulated her and it even says that he does this, that this is something he purposefully does. He cheated on his first wife with the woman who became his second wife, so then, he pursued Misty. Again, he is several years older than her, which tells us that this so-called "relationship" most likely started as her seeing him as a spiritual father. Finally, another extremely important detail that cannot be overlooked is that she lived with him for 2 yrs, not bc she loved him, but bc he had blackmailed her and she did "whatever he wanted." Let that sink in. It's absolutely disgusting and he should be in jail. Let that sink in. She was trying to get access to his devices to delete the blackmail info and as soon as she was able to do that, she got away from him. This is NOT an affair, but he has convinced her that she is guilty. Misty NEEDS intense complex trauma therapy and we have GOT to see this and seek to get her help.

Why did it take her over a year to find the recording? And how come no one knew she was living with KP for so long? Others must have known. Something not adding up.😢

Maybe it's idolatry. If the other man is MB. If she had invested so much of her life in him. He set her apart for himself by calling her the holy virgin.... making her untouchable by a man her own age. Being in the limelight is a very dangerous place to be. We've lost so many people, good people, to the treachery of the limelight. Daystar is Satan he is a bright light always competing

Think it said she lived with him 2 years and I thought the same thing. How could it have taken her that long to get the recording? I just wonder if this is really the true story. It really does seem like there are some missing pieces here.

What could they do if that someone was their boss Mr. MB himself😮

No. She isn't a victim. She was a willing participant of sins many Christians would keep themselves out of at all cost. The issue with IHOPKC is at least two folds: idolatry and sexual immorality. Those who are caught in it should repent.

I just said that to someone else! Someday the antichrist is going to be pretending to have gifts!

Jesus said that a house divided against itself cannot stand, so anyone who casts out a demon, logically must be doing it by the power of God. He also said many will come to him at the end saying 'Lord, lord, didn't we cast out demons in your name?'. Put the two together, it means God uses people for his agenda regardless of truly saved or not. Just like he can make rocks sing his praises or donkeys give a prophetic word (Balaam's donkey). It's a reason to be sober and not thing that just because someone has a gift means they're holy. This whole "so and so's a "man of God" and "he has the anointing" type of talk makes no sense in the New Testament era. Spirit has been poured out widely, it's not the Old Testament where only a very few are magically anointed above everyone else. But leaders would like for us to think we're in the OT so they have massive power over people.

THANK YOU!!!!!

Prosch is EXTREMELY gifted in worship for Jesus....but I learned as a young Christian, gifts and character are NOT the same. David was "a man after God's own heart"....yet he had Uriah killed to hide Bathsheba 's pregnancy......SO CALL DAVID DEMONIC. We PRAY for our brothers and sisters in Christ, that they repent and let Jesus work righteousness back in their lives.💕

@@aimeerichard5219 David as a youth was a man after God's own heart, but his lust ruined most of his service for God. David repented (but only after Nathan brought a direct message from God) and sought the forgiveness of God. David lost his family, his son, and even his crown for a season. Read the book of Psalms and you'll see the remorse that David felt. Don't compare Prosch to King David. God can forgive any sin, but someone who can continue in sin without true remorse and repentance should be at least treated as someone who does not know Christ.

Before Misty, Prosch manipulated and abused women for decades. He's a self admitted master manipulator.

I still struggle with calling JD1 a victim. Legally, she was an adult. If she's not an adult, where's the line? 20? 21? 22? 25? 30?

@@RCGWhofair point. I don’t think we know enough on that, which is ok. God surely does.

Should be called "Friends with benefits"

Friends of the bride groomers

@@ourmission1 Now that's funny. (Wish it wasn't, but man, if you want to be "famous" you had better be willing to to take the flogging in the town square when your character can't sustain your fame.)

Yeah it's actually so heartbreaking that I have to laugh to keep from despair. I am currently vacillating between laughter and tears. Oh God we are a sinful generation. Have mercy on us all.

No, doesn’t excuse his behavior AND it doesn’t excuse the leaders for not overseeing him and their sheep. He didn’t get help and neither did the people. 😢

🤣🤣🤣Not the Mexican Novella! My word! 😰😭🙏🏽