In your life also

@@owlsonik37 pointless response, her statement says she knows that truth!!

@@seannel4996 and yours

you are an expert?

Yup.

@@wordwatch2it’s common sense that you don’t need to be an expert to see. you are blind?

@@BestBibleVersionDotComyes. Matthew 18 which he has yet to do with any of the victims. In this case, if the allegations are true which I’m inclined to believe they are, he is facing serious damage to his reputation which would put him in a place of disqualification from any church leadership and will put him in the hands of the court and law enforcement with possible punishment.

Thank for yourself. Pray for yourself.

Amen 💕💞✨☺️

You need repentance and long period time of changed behavior. Anyone who has the ability to talk can say Words of repentance. But their actions show if they truly are. His actions are not showing repentance. Listen to Dr. Henry cloud about repentance of abusers

That is a serious concern

Obviously your sin does not rate on God's Leader board. God has not needed to bestow any grace nor redemption to you. Show me one Christian who has not fallen short and who has perfectly handle their issues

@@nardinoo1951 that isn’t the point. The fact that we all sin, and need a savior does not negate the responsibility of leaders to repent truthfully and clean up the mess they’ve made (consequences) that have affected people under their influence. You all make me tired 😂 I was just pointing out that he didn’t really say what he did when he asked everyone to forgive him. Just a blanket nonspecific forgiveness.? it’s just not really repentance or an apology when it’s that vague. there have been allegations that he did some pretty serious stuff so if he didn’t do it would be nice to know what he did so we also know what he didn’t do without that information. We can forgive him, but we don’t necessarily have to trust him.

yes to some this would be nothing ..but this is a person under the care of an authority figure...she matters even if it is just one.@@Jobbi-Diaz

And I agree that there is always consequences to our sin. That is a given fact but to say that he did not truely repent makes me tired. The layers to this sisuation are many and not at all clear cut. I absolutely feel for those victims and I feel for Mike because he being drag through the town square and being stone to death. As I've said before I have been in Church close to 60 yrs. Different Churches and I have never seen a Perfect Pastor or leadship handle serious issues 100 percent perfect because they and we are not perfect. No one will get away with anything. He God will being to light what is in hidden. See you on the other side. Take Care

@@BestBibleVersionDotComMike’s own standard on record is that he would never let Bob Jones on stage again after his impropriety, (see Remnant radio interview on topic) and that anyone in IHOP was to be completely above reproach in the area of holiness (hear tapes from 90’s with Bob). He transgressed far beyond what Bob did here and should at the very least apply his own standard to himself.

Did he have a "leadership staff" 20 years ago?

⁠@@BestBibleVersionDotCom 1 Timothy 3:2 Titus 1:6 Mike is not above reproach and a one-woman man. Disqualified, according to Biblical standards. Also, God killed David’s son because of his adultery. Doesn’t sound like God swept it under the rug.

@@janwalters2148 He didn’t start IHOPKC alone.

Fortunately for you, Krista, Mike asked us not to criticize disdainers like you. It sounds like you were a close disciple of his some 20+ years ago, no? Like you are an expert on what he did and did not do 20+ years ago? Please educate us, since you know so much about it and are qualified to judge him in these matters.

Amen!

God waits many years out of His love for us and has great patience. Mike should have confessed these years ago and made amends to all he hurt. THAT is the biblical way. So, God is now exposing many of our sins due to the End Times, and because perhaps, he wants to use Mike in a greater way. Whatever, He is doing this for Mike's benefit. Just because he has even forgotten ALL the violations, does not exonerate him. I actually believe he doesn't even remember because there were 'multiple occasions'. Yes, all of us who love IHOP must pray that the injured will be healed, and way to wholeness be found.

Amen. I love this comment.

IHOP was never built with God in the first place. This is ignorance now, willful ignorance.

@keokio7 that’s not exactly what he’s saying. The fact is it was bad, and he repented daily to God but his big mistake was he DIDN’T EVER REPENT to Jane Doe! Just repenting to God does not include the person sinned against.

​@@westofthemiddle Uh he was literally friends with Jane Doe and her husband this whole time. He donated to their ministry consistently this whole time. It doesn't make sense that Jane Doe would still be in contact with her "abuser" like that. There were things that Mike Bickle did that was wrong, but even Jane Doe voiced that she believed that he repented, but I think some rumor went on that he was doing the same stuff again, not sure how, and then she blew the whistle on it finally. Not saying she wasn't abused, but I'm just saying things were definitely blown out of proportion. And they all pretty much repented and let it in the past until recently.

He needs to step down as a spiritual leader and take responsibility. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing and has no place leading any congregation EVER AGAIN. He should actually go to prison for his behavior, like anyone who has sex with a minor. How can you say it wasn't that bad?

Why?

nope. but he hasn’t said at all what he did that he’s asking forgiveness for and that isn’t a real apology.

kind of a snotty thing to say? most leaders involved in this situation as well as the majority of those commenting would agree that the truth needs to be brought to light & the Bickle apology doesn’t really say much. I’m not policing anything, I’m commenting as a believer in the body of Christ, who has felt deeply grieved by these accusations, and I think Mike Bickle owes the people he has affected a little more clarity.. I suppose I could be wrong, I don’t consider myself an authority. I’m just commenting as a person who has been affected and still praying through the aftermath. It’s a simple fact that his “apology” didn’t say what he did.

​@@ginawhite1661 His statement DOES NOT HAVE TO delve into details of what he DID DO. What he DOES admit that he DID DO wasn't of the same nature as what he has been accused of doing. He is being accused of doing serious sexual things he specifically DOES NOT admit to. The ongoing and pernicious inference that people want to immediately make is that the not admitting to language infers that some delicious truth is being denied. There's an underlying gossip column presumption of guilt where guilt has not been established. Look, if I steal $10 and am later accused of Grand Theft, I can make a completely truthful statement that is in the exact form Mike uses: I can truthfully admit to theft, AND I can truthfully not admit to theft of the more serious nature. I'm saying I've been guilty on a certain level, and it isn't the level my accusers say.

Yes, he needs to specify morally speaking. However, I realized that that may not be advisable legally speaking at this time. He needs to follow his lawyer's advice. When all dust settles, we will see if he clarifies on his sin.

Here is the problem with what you're saying. We are commanded in scripture to hold leadership accountable... that deacons and elders are to be above reproach. We are to avoid even the appearance of evil. Mike Bickle has openly confessed that he has participated in ungodly behavior and is accused of much more than what he has now admitted to. Sadly most of the pastors in public ministry lack the humility and grace to feel shame in how they have brought shame on the name of the Lord. Bickle needs to step down and go into hiding never to return to public ministry. He has disqualified himself decades ago.

​@@berns4146can you please give us the scriptures 🙏🏽 thank you🌼✨

Bickle should be arrested

Exposing abuse isn’t bashing. That’s a wrong use. It’s called accountability.

You are absolutely clueless as to what the word of God directs. Do you not understand that the word says that many should not aspire to be teachers for they will be subject to a harsher judgement in this age and the age to come. We are also to even avoid the appearance of evil let alone fall into adulteress relationships...You don't need to be God to know the condition of Bickles heart...Bickle by his wicked actions has shown you the condition of his heart.

If you think about it, why is it such a horrendous thing for you or anyone? Is your and other people’s faith in man? I understand. I’ve been part of a ministry whose leader fell to temptation of sin. A minister who was born again, Spirit filled, baptized in the Holy Spirit, definitely saved, who was bound by sin, sinned, truly repented and sinned again. Caught, defeated and devastated and everyone involved, family, friends, fellow minister, church members, and hundreds of thousands of others. It was like a funeral, but God forgives. God restores. God heals. God uses again and the sun comes up in the morning to a new day. Our faith should be in Jesus Christ and Him crucified. Don’t let another person’s sin or accusations of sin shake your world. God’s plan for your life does not change. His plan does not depend on man.

based on your proposal for fasting here, I will contribute this reply on social media chat in kind... 1) Firstly yes, Pray, but PLEASE don't reveal the personal results of how you interpreted how best to approach this sensational sexual misconduct situation at hand. Such praying is between us and God only... Please don't chat about your praying in the KZfaq social media comment section !!! Amen. Secondly, only God holds the Truth... a follower of Christ cannot know how to judge another , based on knowing the Truth of sinning activities goin on. Thirdly, definitely watch out for deceptive voices and disingenuous voices injecting themselves into the matter - only adding to spiritual warfare and acting as proxy. Amen. Blessed are the Peacemakers in Christ Jesus .

@@wisejojohumphrey3475 -- a very wise and eloquently written piece of advice here for hopefully all to more humbly wrap one's respective head around. Was worth the read. Peace

​@@sheilaboland6285How can you forget Mike and Diane! Lets fast for ALL involved ❤

@@donkoh5738Why not chat about praying?

you really don't know the details do you?

If those things had happened, it would have been revealed already and he would have most likely mentioned it in his statement. If it had been dealt with then in the proper way, we wouldn’t even be talking about it right now.

Why did Jane Doe and her Husband continue to contribute to his ministry all these years later? This makes no sense at all. Something is wrong. Someone is being paid to lie I think.

Thank you!!! :))

Yes Mike & family ❤

He really hasn’t admitted anything. It’s all smoke and mirrors to me. It’s a real sad situation. Lord have mercy on us all.

Not bringing in a neutral third party. What happens when Jane Doe goes public. She really can if pushed in a corner.

​@@Jobbi-Diaz Slick

Report illegal activities to the authorities so sad church people don't get this

Why is it not independent?

And this is 3rd time you need to stop stressing over other folk business. Go pray

A corporate defense atty advocates for the client not the victims It needs to NOT be a law firm.@@diysolarready

see sunday service, they did

Yup. They are lying.

Yeah the evidence IF it exists.

Yeah the evidence. Is their evidence of sin in your life?

​@@BryanYesilonis Witness testimony is evidence, only when the witness is sworn in, to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, in a sworn affidavit, or in a court of law. A simple statement is not evidence in a court of law.

@@sheilaboland6285 real evidence is impartial it does not care about yours or my argument. To attack me over my statement is between you and God.

POLYGRAPH: get the truth, eliminate fakers/haters

you have no idea what has transpired, so how can you be convinced all is well and has been dealth with? do not let your eagerness for a resolution mislead you.

It has not. He’s just been permanently removed for more recent clergy abuse

I am so confused. His sexual sin was before IHOP so why is the punishment so harsh?

That is a mis use of scripture. And you are wiping peoples pain and trauma away like it’s nothing. That’s why this needs to be addressed in the church. That you think you can just dismiss people’s pain is the most cruel and ungodly thing to do. That’s why it’s not repentance. It’s manipulation. He picked something to admit that happened long time ago because people will say exactly what you just said. And he knows it that’s why he did it. It looks like an repentance. It’s deceitful and it’s what abusers do. How they gaslight. And Christian’s in the church are the best for gaslighting because they can find for every manipulative act a bible verse to give them a read to sweep it under the rug.

And you should stop stressing over other folk business. It’s ok. Go pray.

Ihopkc needs to do this^

@@eseosarain after 20+ years at IHOP I feel ok asking questions about the man I thought I trusted all this time. I am genuinely trying to understand.

And that’s good because it shows by your questions that you are not easily manipulated. So stay that way.

Are you going to share your sins too? Or just Mike's?

KM, like your judgement of me stinks higher??

Bickle sexually assaulted a 14 year old girl and a 15 year old girl and they don't. care.

Jesus said, "If you continue in my word, then you are my disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free. That's the whole quote. Many things are true, but they're not the truth. They don't set you free. They don't give you eternal life. Jesus is the truth, and only He is truth that sets people free.

@@john4226 amen 🙏

The truth that you know!

Did you mean, "Why did the advocacy group object to three different nationally recognized sexual abuse investigation firms?" I'm thinking that's the question to ask. One, I can see, maybe. Two, that's odd, but mayyyyybe. Three? No, there's something fishy going on with three rejections.

@@KenGray If they were involved in the selection process, they wouldn’t be objecting to it.

@@scvillah three objections tells me otherwise.

@@KenGray I’ve witnessed a church coverup before. It goes a little something like this.

@@ReLair88 if you have the evidence, you have the evidence. Again, one I can see, 3 is sus. It really is put up or shut up time.

Good point

did that at the sunday service

IHOP removed my comment showing how pastor predators like to put time/distance between a "moral failure" and the present. Both Bickle and Andy Savage confessed to something that happened 20 years ago.

⁠@@ToddWilhelmme too. More committed now to repost all over where they can’t erase truthful statements.

He needs to repent and he isn’t fully. That letter was damage control. Please stop spiritualizing everything. He needs to repent of all the hurt pain and damage he has caused. Please stop sweeping it under the rug by talking about Jesus dying on the cross. This is a man toxic and evil hidden behavior that he still isn’t fully repenting. Please don’t enable his behavior. That’s toxic

I love how you christians race to defend and love on men who sexually abuse teenage girls.

Did you catch the part in Mike’s statement where he said “I followed the advice of my lawyers….?”The victims have lawyers too. No attorney is going to instruct a victim to go to the press or go online and tell everything. Neither IHOPKC nor Mr Bickle are going to control this process. I know that must be uncomfortable for many of you.

​@howyabendoin there are a few others that are 24/7. One started by a prompt of God at the same time as IHOP, which I think is awesome! My own church has a real heart for it, but the best we can do is a few hours a week, right now.

They outed themselves as on the list without their consent

Wonderful is very misplaced. He just doing damage control because the truth is coming out that is not repentance nor anything wonderful. Very inappropriate comment for such heavy situations what caused so much destruction. Christians res need to stop to make things wonderful when there is trauma, evilness, destruction and tremendous pain. It’s important to address that and it’s important to give that a place in the process. This is ugly. Sin and evil and deceit is Ugg’s. So please stop trying to to make it lesser than it is. To be able to do this for such a long period of time is not something you sweep under the rug of everything is wonderful.

the lesson is that IHOP is a sham, ridiculously bad theology, delusional madman who makes things up as he goes, uses, deceives everyone and everything that is dumb enough to get in his sights.

He should be arrested!!!!

Christians are opposed to the criminal prosecution of sexual predators.@@jayhawk2689

I agree. This whole video was awkward. I didn't believe for a second the speaker and IHOP are happy that Mike released a statement. IHOP wants to control the narrative, manage the perceptions. It did end like one of those personal injury ambulance-chaser attorney commercials.

EPIC. Media relentlessly accusing

People need to know the truth and the body of Christ to decide if they Want to be involved with Mike Bickles ministry as he is invited to speak or minister other places. Is it longstanding continual issues? Involvement with other ministries greatly affects the body of Christ.

Amen!!!❤️❤️❤️

Amen !

Amen

Seeking for justice is not casting stones. The bible advises that teachers will give an account based on higher standards. If all of this is true, of course he'll be forgiven (if he's actually repentant). But not restored to ministry.

@@daviromano603 you’ll noticed I didn’t mentioned those who seeking justice. As for castling stones, I’m speaking of those who are slandering, and actually contributing to the division with their words. And I have read the words of alleged victims who are casting stones not just seeking for justice. At that point, it’s bitterness, and might I add - Hatred- which Jesus said is the same as murder. And as someone who once operated in a bitterness mindset, (I’ve been healed and restored by the grace of God) I know bitterness when I read/hear it. IHOPKC has established an independent 3rd party and making some changes. At what point will the complaint community feel satisfied that justice has been served? When Mike is crucified at the stake? for lack of better analogy. And/or when IHOPKC- Prayer Room and Forerunner Church burns to the ground? These are comments I’ve read. The avenue for justice has been implemented for those who feel they need it. And why would you think he shouldn’t be restored to ministry? Like Mike mentioned in his letter, let God decide that and confirm it from Holy Spirit filled brothers and sisters in the body of Christ. Let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water. What’s also most important is for the alleged victims to come forward and began a journey of healing and reconciliation. If they don’t, then why start the fire? Other then to cause strife, division and get there egos pampered. That’s Bible.

did not say victim is a liar, said many other allegation were not truthful.

@@wordwatch2 exactly. What does “not being truthful” mean?

@@wordwatch2 you guys have to believe Mr. “I, I, I,… me, mine, me.” I get it. An increasing number within the body can see the summary. It’s in black and white.

@@Jobbi-Diaz that’s absolutely the implication. The entire rest of the world read this ridiculous “sorry, I’m a victim” sheet.

@@Jobbi-Diaz “He didn’t say the victim is a liar. He said the other accusations are lies.” Huh? So he said she wasn’t a liar, and he said she is a liar. We know about her because of the nature of the accusations.

Guilty, but only distrust and contempt for how IHOP leadership shabbily treated Mike. Mike and the IHOP ministry were a tremendous blessing to me for years and I look back fondly and with great gratitude.

duh...that was my point ..someone caught in sexual misconduct..should say it...not pretend it is nothing...like a burp at a dinner.. a leader exercises authority over others and a public figure..in God's name..I expect more from The Body of Christ..some care for the individules invovled..not just himself.@@Jobbi-Diaz

im thinking it isnt going to be private anyway...not anymore and public ministries are called to a higher standard....besides that if he has repented and it is no big deal bc it was so long ago ..why is he making light of it..someone got hurt and he is suppose to be a servant and rep of Christ...so it is love to have a standard... for his sake..for his head and heart..no standard equals no love@@BestBibleVersionDotCom

​@@BestBibleVersionDotComIf you are without sin, cast the stone(s). Accurate word ❤

Personally I think he did apologize for sexual misconduct - for actions 20 + years ago. More will come out, and I think he was wise not to disclose more ( yet) for the same reasons he waited this long to say what he did. From my legal background ( I’m not a lawyer, but worked in the legal environment for 40 years) that was good counsel….. It will all come out eventually. For example, if he had used the words” sexual misconduct”, wouldn’t you then also want to know more details than that? I do think it is significant, and unfortunate that the allegation group will not cooperate with a 3rd party investigation, if that is true, as they have stated. This is what is needed and the IHOPKC leadership team did well to follow Dr Brown’s advise, and been planning to do this before he suggested it.

​@@BestBibleVersionDotCom Karen here was it illegal?

It is not the victims-victims story keeps changing .The advocacy Group Lawyer Boz Tchividjian Is The one not speaking . Boz said my client will not Be speaking to This Law Firm He Founded a Group called Grace He would Like to Use Grace He Founded, That is The Conflict of Interest . From reading His Post i do not think He is going to let anyone talk to anyone He dosent Pick . No one Likes an Ultimatum i Do not , so This will Drag out for who knows ?Not The victims not speaking it is Their Lawyer ?

False. Boz never indicated they should use GRACE (but they should agree upon a third party). He knows that GRACE would be a conflict on interest and unlike IHOPKC, he plays fair. Have you heard of Boz before this scandal? I’ve spoken to him personally this past year about my own case…..he is THE attorney and is nationally known for standing up for victims abused, silenced and steamrolled in the church.

Just read what He said ,There is so many Armchair investigators on this platform you can Hear anything , IThe only Person that i see They Got it is Right Is Julie Roy's She is who i would use if needed , also Jimmy swagger Jim Baker this is not a new Thing i went through The swagger one , If i Misspoke i apologise But I can copy & Paste They will not be talking to this Lawfirm. I would never use Guide Post ,Yes i know about The Petetion I live Far away & not Dewayne or Allen , Brian or Wes But another section leader was Quoted , and I was a Founding Member of IHOP Macon Georgia , and I would take Stewards word over His anyway, he hasent been there long But you would Think sense 1999 .He tried to contact me yesterday , i do not know but one reason he would Foe sponsorship i guess? He admitted He broke a vow or trust with Stewart , which did not change anything .@@Jendoyle

IF the allegations are true. We will know if they are true or not after knowing correctly the facts. It was the same with Johnny Depp, people firstly were agains him and after the trial they were supporting him. Its not because there are claims that those accusations are true. May be or may be not. Do not condem before knowing it.

@user-xe9dt5kc5l May the Lord reveal the truth to me and to you. May the Lord forbid me to be gossip.

@user-xe9dt5kc5l By the way, I myself was sexually abused when I was 13, that's exactly what I did, I tell all my friends I was raped but actually it was a much lesser serious sexual assault

Really? Then why is Mike Bickle silent? You know by there fruits. They see the bad fruit in him. Clergy abuse from a pastor is really bad. He needs to repent.

Yeah that will work. Things you say when you have nothing to work with.

@@mattboyles3590 The Lord has been working with me for decades to release me from a satanic “0.1% truth plus 99.9% lie” so I will not live in the narrative the Enemy want me to live in. The Lord also put my life back on right track after I told everyone that I was raped when I was 13 while actually it was a less serious sexual assault. On the matter of Mike, the Lord has a word for me and I think it's for all of us “Just drop it and move on”!

And seeing the people im the advocacy group and their long standing involvement its evident they were unaware of it. Allen Hood was there from the beginning, he never knew.

His wife should have known. He didn't repent to her because he would have included that. You are correct. She must be broken

@@Jobbi-Diazyou completely missed the point

@@BestBibleVersionDotComthe accusers are not anonymous. They are not public, but they are not anonymous. And it’s pretty obvious this is downplaying the issue to a vague “lack of judgment” and even clarifies that he is not confessing to the current accusations. Waving around the judgment seat of Christ in peoples faces because you don’t like what they say is a bit much

Karen here has he met with the accusers and their representatives to repent?? Why not?

And you should stop stressing over other folk business. It’s ok. Go pray.

@@eseosarainno one is stressing. Are you stressing? 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

The problem is that you are assuming Mike's NOT "right with Jesus." That's presumption. Don't do that. It isn't right. I'm not defending him here; I'm calling out the bad form of your argument. You're like Job's "friends" assuming that all the disaster that befell him is prima facie evidence of hidden sin in Job's life that he needed to repent of. At the end of it all, God finds Job's three friends guilty of sin saying “I am angry with you ...., because you have not spoken the truth about me, as my servant Job has." And He demands sacrifices from them to atone for their sin. God took issue with Job, but it didn't have to do with sin, as He doesn't demand an atoning sacrifice from Job over it. After more than 40 chapters, it's the "guilty" one who -- while he does need to humble himself -- is found not guilty by God. And it is Job's "Intervention Team" God calls out as guilty of sin.

@vo_Hriste the task of the church is to tell the world about Jesus. Jesus is not going to let sin damage his church. Therefore He brings it to light.

Satan is crafty. Christians can be

Probably go to court

Can you believe he sinned 20 years ago? Who does that? Shame on him

There’s not much to confess 😂

​@user-xe9dt5kc5l I'm pretty sure the prior comment you're responding to was sarcasm and meant to be understood as you said.

Mike Bickle's repented and sorrowful for behaviour before ihopkc even existed.... Are any of Us to cast stones over 20 plus years later ?

Of course we all sin, but confession of sin is paramount. What he has done is wait until he got caught before he acknowledged anything. As a leader, this is unacceptable according to Biblical standards.

naah! there is a lot of current shadiness going on. it just hasn’t been exposed yet.

Amen, William. I keep think of the Kavanaugh SCOTUS hearings where that lady came out with ancient allegations she couldn't back up. She had an agenda and tried to "MeToo" a good man. Same thing happening here. What's the agenda of "Jane Doe" tossing an accusation grenade decades later? Who put her up to it? (And drop the anonymity of "Jane Doe"--if Mike's name is out there being smeared, why not hers? )

Either that or sorry I got caught!

Sincerity is there Mike is not obligated to speak to us at all, only investigators. He is facing media, which is predominantly accusing/judgemental. Thank you Mike ** Innocent till proven guilty

Innocent till proven guilty…hmmm. Are you talking about the victims (real ones) or the alleged victim (Bickle)? Sad that in this woke culture,even in the church, so many people just watch crimes being committed publicly and do nothing to protect the victim…usually just finding an angle to justify the perpetrator…why? We are officially at the time where good is called evil and evil is good. Sounds about the way Israel is being portrayed as evil daily as Hamas has been proven to do nothing but extremely vile evil acts against women and children…the real victims,but the woke media calls them good. Time to wrap this up the right way with actual apologies to the real victims AND financial damages, trying to keep it in the church, OR turn it over to the authorities and really drag the Lord’s name in the mud where justice will not be optional like Mike thinks it is apparently, but it will be demanded. This can’t go on any longer. Half of us in this thread have grieved spirits standing with the victims while the other half want to support the party that actually does have a legal obligation to make this right…not to even bring up spiritual. I’m a man, but I know that if I were the one wronged here and it were swept under the rug for so long, I would demand this be made right. Let me move on or lawyer up to do so. I don’t have a dog in this fight. What I DO have is an intense desire for truth to come out and a just conclusion. Ugh! Woke has NO place in the church

This is not the enemy, this is Jesus pulling back the veil and revealing sin , corruption and hypocrisy in His people. He will get yours too.

EPIC ❤ Thank you Mike !

His will is outlined with regard to church discipline and restoration clearly and unambiguously in the Bible. Mike is disqualified by his own statement alone, as is anyone who knew back then or came to know and did nothing. Really is that simple. Repentance requires accountability.

Ralph.. yeah.. but if you read the replies here and on Twitter the crowds seem to want to tear him apart limb by limb. I think they are projecting all the hurts and open wounds from other ppl onto MB. I could take all my bad experiences from the churches I have been in and project them onto MB!! But I took them to Jesus. Not right away but eventually. And I basically had stopped attending churches. In my 20’s a Catholic priest, a Monsignor, said a disgusting sexual phrase to me via the telephone that was way before all the sex scandals in the Catholic Church. And I said nothing to warrant what he said. But that didn’t stop me at the time in attending Catholic churches. Eventually we need to take all our hurts to Jesus and let him heal us.