Will Ilia Malinin go for 4A in the next season to make history?! -- I really hope Hanyu land first but Malinin's 4A is legit! Ahh.. My heart is torn!! 😫

Yuzuru has been saying he wanted to land this jump for years and everyone said he was insane for attempting. Now people are trying to hop on and also attempt the jump after seeing him try to land it at Olympics and seeing how close he was, and while it’s fine and dandy if they can do it, it still leaves a sort of sour taste in my mouth. I’m hoping that Yuzuru lands it first and it’s ratified. Before he got his last 2(?) injuries he was insanely close to landing it(and sent ghislain a video of him landing it but it wasn’t perfect I think?) so I believe in him but even if he can’t land it I will support him forever, he is the only reason I still watch figure skating.

So happy for this young man. I hope he lands it in an official game but I really feel for Yuzu. My heart longs for him before he steps out of the ring and takes his bow~ may he be the first to land the 4A. Nevertheless, Yuzu has changed figure skating in many ways than one. It's thrilling.

I like Ilia and I'm really glad to see such a great result in studying 4a, but at the same time I want Yuzuru to be the first to perform 4a in competitions

Will he be the first one to land it in competition? I don't know, it really depends. Yuzu and Ghislain have mention before that Yuzu have landed the 4A in practice too! but for competititons he doesn't want to "just" land it, he wants to make it part of the whole choreography. And we all know that Yuzu will never be satisfied with an easy entry for the jump Something that I'm sure of is that NOW Isu will increase the value of the jump lol

I don’t think Yuzuru Hanyu needs to complete a 4A to still be the greatest skater of all time. He is so much more than one jump!

Yuzuru has opened the door to 4A. And this young man is about to enter the world of 4A. Good luck to the 17 and 27 year old geniuses!

I’m so torn😭😭😭 I’m happy that Ilia landed it but I really want Yuzu to achieve and land it first in a competition and to have his dream of the first 4A with it being ratified.

Yuzuru suffered a lot at the Olimpics, he even sacrificed his gold medal for the 4a. So i am praying for him to be the first man to land it, cuz after all these years, after all pain he has gone through he deserves all the best, especially his last dream to come true.

YUZU is truly a legend, he gave the youngest courage. I believe that in OG 2026 the 4A will be a reality and Yuzuru was absolutely certain to risk his A4 in 2022. Happy for the brave ones who are trying but I still get scared it's too dangerous so much care and health to all skaters.

Respect all skaters. Honestly, I am interested in 4A only because Yuzuru wants to do it.

I don’t think figure skating is that major compared to other sports. Therefore, I think it is very important for the athletes to do their best. One thing I can say is that just having excellent technique is not enough to become a popular sport. The charisma of the athletes themselves is necessary ‼️ I think Yuzuru played that role.✨🌸✨🌸✨🌸✨😊😊😊

Stop spreading misinformation you're counting the first rotation before it's rotated, it's underotated or q and you can't determine which one unless you see from the right angle but it's definitely not fully rotated and a step out, people who don't know much about figure skating will think it's fully rotated because of you

There are many skaters who have posted videos of landing lots of jumps in practice but they still dared not include in their program in competition for many years. Probably because out of about 50 jumps they tried, only got one that looked good enough to post on social media. Its risk is very high. Unless you have a high percentage of success, like Yuzu, he dares to add 4A to the competition. As for Ilia, he hasn't achieved much either, if he included 4A in his competition now, it would reduce his chances of getting a medal. So I think even though he has landed 4A in practice right now, it's still going to be a long time before we see Ilia's 4A in competition.

He actually landed a clean one in practice after this. Huge, perfect, beautiful.

Yuzuru a inspirado a distintas generaciones para avanzar. Ilia sigue los pasos de grandes patinadores como Yuzuru que hacen con pasión adelantar este deporte más allá de los límites posibles. Hubiera querido que Yuzuru lo haya hecho pero se que nuestro Yuzu estaría feliz por el logro de Ilia

Happy for Illia. yuzu will forever be my skating idol

May the bestest one lands the formidable Quad Axel in the competition. And yes my heart is still screaming for Yuzuru Hanyu, the bravest one to attempt it on an Olympic Ice.

I want that Hanyu lands it first and then can everybody else like Ilia😅

Yuzu has already made the history of figure skating. He is the pioneer of the 4A jump and has made it known to the world. His coach posted a video right after the Beijing Olympics showing he had already landed it successfully in 2019 with a safety harness during his practice in Canada. It's for sure many skaters and coaches would study this video in detail after that. Therefore, it's not surprising that other skater(s) will try to land the 4A since they now have a blueprint to study it. Ilia is an American and if he can land it, ISU may significantly increase its BV to make him win at 2026 Olympics. But who will be the first skater to have a 4A ratified by ISU in the competition? Only God knows… but even if Yuzu is not the first skater to land the ratified 4A, his hard work, dedication and sacrifices to this jump will always be remembered. He is still a living legend.

I think this isn’t fully rotated. It’s something about 45 degrees to 90 degrees less than full rotations.

Just so the whole world knows: ==>> that is what a quad Axel looks like!!!! QuadG0d!!!!!

I hope one other idea proposed by Yuzuru can be push thru too - in Yuzuru's graduation thesis, it mentioned incorporate AI into the figure skating scoring system. As far as I understand, AI assisted scoring system may catch the pre-rotation issues - may be it can catch under rotation issues as well? Pre-rotation is a serious issue now since almost every skater just pretty much focus on jumps, especially quads to boots the scores. I heard ISU is testing the AI scoring system now. But I am not sure if AI scoring system would be official sometime soon. Besides pre-rotate/under-rotate, what other things AI may help? Someone said there are too many 2 feet skating between some skaters jumps - should too much 2 feet skating being restricted and caught by AI? The other candidate I can think of is: the long preparation time before the jumps - it happened to some of the skaters. I hope AI can help one day to fixed the unbalanced artistic/technical elements in a program. I think it's artistic elements that makes the figure skating more creative/unique and bring figure skating to a LIFE, heartfelt program. It's different from jump culture - everybody just want to do something quick and dirty, not even want to use one's owning thinking . I am tired of watching those "randomly filled step sequences" between jumps, including those "chicken-wing dance" and crossovers, program without "depth". I am very impressed by Yuzuru/Yagudin/Plushenko's step sequence/choreography in their program (Olympic Channel posted a video - Men's Singles Figure Skating Last 5 Champions!"), but now it's all ruined by the younger generation. Those classic skating skills might gone permanently after Yuzuru retired. How bad! It's OK even if IIia landed first 4A in a competition - but I won't feel excited for that. It's not his idea and there might be other even younger skaters overtake him and do even fancier jump! Meanwhile, look at Yuruzu's SEIMEI fs program video in 2018 Winter Olympic (posted by Olympic Channel 4 years ago) - it's reaching 27 M viewers now! Why it's so influential? Because it's unique! Besides it's choreography, It tells a story, it has special messages/meanings trying to deliver. It's not a copy and clown program people watch it one day and go away to look another circus!

Congratulations! I hope he can land it in the competition soon. But this jump is really really scary and the injury rate is extremely high. You're still very young so don't try too hard. Please stay healthy and do your best. Good luck!

👏👏👏👏 felicitaciones por ese gran salto!!! Me parece que Yuzu ha sido una inspiracion para otros atletas, mi corazón sigue con el. Saludos desde Mexico.

It’s actually exciting to see! I think most of us are projecting our feelings onto Yuzu, he could be excited for all know. This is the guy who was all HELL YEAH! when Boyang was landing quads left and right but we truly don’t know him personally to tell how he’s feeling and assuming things is just going to make you sad. Ilia is a huge Yuzu fan, anyone seen him in his little Seimei costume?? And he even follows Yuzu fanpages on insta, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was actually inspired to do the 4a because of Yuzu. Ilia or someone else landing it first and getting it certified will never diminish Yuzu’s hard work. He’s laid the foundations for it and gave other skaters the confidence to try it. Even if Yuzu gives up on it, it certainly won’t be because Ilia landed it. Let’s cheer other skaters on, the sport is continuously evolving and that’s really good.

Isn't it only 4 full rotations tho 🤔

That s Yuzu”s 3A :). Excited for Ilia but Yuzu paves the way.

Wait did you count enough the rotation?????

Yo solo espero que yuzuru lo aterrice primero

OH MY GOD!!! FULLY ROTATED 4A!!!

Very good. I love ***Ilia Malinin*** : )) I really like to see him evolve on the ice. Power, strength, power, he inhabits the ice rink, is dressed by his program. A 5 Qauds was also wonderful to discover. Some times, he made mistakes, notwithstanding, I find him a great potential, a charisma and a charm you. Beautiful hope already so gifted. Too bad that several videos I had commented on Sir Ilian Malinin have been removed from several channels without my knowing the reason. These are the videos that have been removed. So thank you for this video of elegance, ease, maturity for such a young skater. Congratulations to him. Thank you very much for sharing from Switzerland

Um- OKKK!!!! WOO HOO!! GO ILIA!!!!!! THAT'S A FULLY ROTATED 4A RIGHT THERE!

I wish yuzuru is the first to land .

THIS IS SOO EXCITING!! He's a really good jumper!

Ilia's 4A really confused me - someone who is figure skating expert may correct me: look at 1:14 - when Ilia did 3A. His left feet has not took off yet. His right leg already stretched high/ready to kick off the turn. It looked to me: his right leg trigger the turn. Look at how Yuzuru did his 3A: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ot2fhs9ex9i0ZIU.html. 7:13 his left feet ready to take off. Look at his right leg - it's not very high. By definition - Axel jump suppose to take off left forward edge. When take off, one's right leg would not able to lift up/kick off high, right? In Yuzuru's case, his left feet/leg trigger the turn - his right leg/hip turn AFTER he took off. Another look at kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ot2fhs9ex9i0ZIU.html 6:57 - his right left/hip able to get higher AFTER he took off his left leg feet. Look at Nathan Chen's 3A - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e7SZnbuZvtmrnZ8.html 4:44. He was never able to lift his right leg/hip too high AFTER he took off his left leg. May be that's why Ilia may jump high for his rotation.

The best 4A we've ever seen so far. Great work and great talent Ilia

why you count rotate 1 so early? isnt that still under rotate?

Yuzu is the first person mentioned landing 4A in one of his program in a competition - even Nathan said he will wait Yuzuru do it first. Although these idea does not have copyright, I still hope Yuzuru to land it first. It’s good that Yuzuru inspired the younger generation, but hope the coaches of these younger generation be more creative and setting some goals for them instead of grabbing idea from other people and go ahead just do it.

Correct me of I'm wrong, shouldn't the first rev be counted AFTER 1 full rotation starting from take off (start of take off is not 1 rev yet)? I think its a 3a (3.5 rotation, maybe 4 but not 4.5)

To see Illia do the 3 × 3A combo is like watching mini Yuzu 😅🤣. But this is what I hope: That Yuzuru be the first one to land the 4A in competition and Illia be next. And then that Yuzu wins his third olympic gold medal and whatever what he then decides to do, that he retires proud and happy of himself 🥰 Then for Illia and Yuma to win each and olympic gold medal 🏅

Well done Illia. Really, Yuzu is the inspiration for everyone, in my opinion. I've been around a while, and, Yuzuru Hanyu led the way in changing the sport. He blends athleticism and artistry like no other, before him (there were athletes, there were artists, no one has combined both the way Yuzu at his best does, that is not to be disrespectful to *any* one else). Yuzu has also had an insanely long career at the very top too. Well done Illia. My only fear for all these men is injury: falls, back, hips, ankles, knees. I wish Illia all the very very best.

ISU: time to increase the base value of 4A

All in all it's just a practice video with very low resolution so there is no need to discuss too much about the details which can not been seen clearly. Also i dont think there is anything to do with yuzu since he just practices quad axel to achieve his OWN dream.

Myself happy for this kid but would love to see Yuzuru land the first 4A in international competition.

Wow!! And the landing looked well within the quarter turn. Incredible!

Yuzu had to train by himself, and I am sure he landed the 4A but there was nobody who filmed it, and if its yet true that he had videos and sent it to Ghislain, as far as we know, Yuzu wouldn't publish a non perfect 4A ,I think he wouldn't even publish a fully rotated, perfectly landed 4A from practise. He wants to show it in a competition!

Didnt yuzu also land 4A in practise????????????

The rotations in the video are not counted correctly. A single rotation is completed after one revolution. You counted rotation 1 literally at take off 🤡

That's really close ! Amazing job Ilia! Counting down for the era of quints lol. I have to admit my mixed feeling rn as a yuzu stan. Thing is, everybody has limits. I know Yuzu constantly breaks them but what if that's it. The scary jump requires tricky physical quality one simply can't achieve just by training. I've talked to myself about this possibility in past years and as much as I want Yuzu to realize his dreams, I hope he knows that his huge contribution to the sport won't be shattered if he doesn't. He can give the most splendid performance w/o a quad yet he's the first ever to ratify a 4lo and certify a 4A. He's earned my ultimate respect i just wish him happy and healthy.

4A need to be performed in a program on the competition to be Recognized

Is it true that Yuzuru landed many 4A in practice? I have heard that He sent the video to Ghislain Briand landing the 4A.

He blew my mind. We are waiting for a very hot competition between him and Yuzuru. I'm fan of both 😍💙

Watching Ilia is so fun! He's definitely going to make (even more) waves the next few years for sure. I'd love if at some point he goes for the 4A. I wouldn't expect it for next season though cause he seems to still be working on the consistency of his jumps in major competitions and we saw how long Yuzu practiced before ever attempting it in competition. Ilia doesn't seem to lack confidence and the rotation on this is really good though so maybe he'll surprise me 😅 I'm already so excited for next season!

Hasn't Yuzuru done it in practice yet? I mean, he's risking in competition even if he's never actually managed to land it? Ilia is great, and I wish him longevity (maybe he should take easy with those quads at his age? I don't know) but anyway I do root for Yuzu to nail it first in competition!

Tôi mong bạn có thể đưa nó vào 1 cuộc thi chính thức và kết hợp nó với âm nhạc.Xin mọi người đừng tâng bốc thằng bé quá mức để rồi phủ nhận đi tài năng,công sức và định thay thế 1 ai đó.Hãy chứng minh nó tại các cuộc thi thay vì lúc nào cũng kè kè bên cạnh 1 cái tên khác ăn theo sự nổi tiếng của họ.ISU chắc là đang cố gắng tạo ra 1 người mới để thay thế ai đó nhỉ,tôi nghĩ nó không đơn giản như vậy đâu,đừng lợi dụng tên tuổi của người khác mà bị phản tác dụng nha 😏.Thế giới trượt băng nghệ thuật đang trở nên tăm tối vì ISU đó.Đừng cố gắng biến nó thành một cái gì đó mà bạn muốn tạo ra,hãy công bằng đi và đừng đẩy nó vào hố sâu nữa.Malinin à bạn còn trẻ tôi mong bạn hãy cố gắng tạo ra điểm nhấn riêng của bản thân mình,đó mới là con đường bạn nên đi.

I"m flabbergasted by the comments that Yuzuru Hanyu "deserves" to be the first to land a ratified quad axel. People: this is an athletic competition. It's not a lifetime achievement award. Whoever can successfully land a quad axel in competition "deserves" to get the credit for it. It has nothing to do with their other contributions to the sport or their character (comments on Ilia's alleged egotism are irrelevant and mean-spirited). Yuzuru Hanyu is a two-time Olympic champion, a two-time world champion, a four-time Grand Prix Final gold medalist. Nobody can take those achievements away from him. He will forever be remembered as one of the all-time great male figure skaters, an artist as well as an athlete. Malinin is a 17-year-old high-school junior with a prodigious jumping talent, but whether or not he will develop his artistry and become a great all-around skater is yet to be seen. I wish him all the best, and hope that he doesn't injure himself with his jumping training.

Hanyu did not jump 4A at the Beijing Olympics to make a name for himself in history. An interviewer who has been interviewing Hanyu for more than 10 years asked Hanyu after the Pyeongchang Olympics (what motivates him next?) In front of the camera. It doesn't make sense to skate anymore because it came true, and I'm not fit for the next Beijing Olympics, thinking about retirement). However, as a result of his worries, Hanyu realized that he had the last dream of his skating life. It's 4A, which was Hanyu's dream of 9 years old. He said (I want to make my childhood dreams come true because I don't have to be the first one, and I want to be told that I'm good at skating at that time). That was his last wish. And the day before the Beijing Olympics FS, his right leg injury that he had had for a long time in 4A practice got worse. He said that he had the performances and expressions he wanted to show at the Beijing Olympics until he hit painkillers and injections on the day of the FS, and he participated in the severe foot pain that ordinary athletes would miss.

This is a great axel! He barely perorates, and properly steps up into it. Super impressive!

It's not fully rotated

We need videos from another position . I think...

You know I'm happy for him, but at the same time I'm worried about Yuzuru....I wonder how he will take this, I really hope he doesn't choose the extremes and practice so much that he crashes his body....I really wish for his health and well-being. Yuzu has done so much for figure skating and he deserves to be respect and healthy!

OMG. I KNEW IT I KNEW IT I KNEW IT HOLLLLLYYYYYYY SHIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTT 😍 Congratulations Ilia! You are going to be so great.

Congratulations 🎊🎉🍾🎈

Yuzuru Hanyu's antis suddenly rise from their graves after watching this 😅

Incredible height and form, great job to him!

Felicidades a Ilia por lograrlo en la practica, ahora debe hacerlo en una competencia oficial de manera exitosa para ser registrado como el primero en completarlo, probablemente también habrá otros competidores igual de jóvenes que él probando este salto, ahora solo queda ver quien ganará la carrera. Dudo que Yuzuru pueda hacerlo primero, pero yo espero que también pueda hacerlo y del modo en el que él quiere hacerlo completamente integrado a la coreografía.

Others probably wouldn’t be trying this down so much if it weren’t for Hany

not really sure how to feel about this, i'd love to see yuzu jumping his 4A in an integrated way to the choreography in the difficulty he wants to do it but we shoudn't put pressure on him either, happy for Ilia and i think yuzu will be happy for him too but deep inside he could get kinda frustrated bc all the effort he put into this jump for so long though, i hope he won't feel this way .well i realize i'm more anxious now btw this didn't happen in competition but at least we know this jump it's not a myth anymore but it's still a very risky jump

this jump for me remain Yuzuru Hanyu's. Skating turns into just jumping robots. Without the artistic part.

Yk what? We have seen now Ilia and Yuzu land 4A so now we can just wait and see who can land it in competition first. We know they can both do it. I still hope that Yuzu land first as it is his lifelong dream but I’d Ilia land it then that’s good as well and I hope that Yuzu can be happy anyway.

Yuzuru is not the only skater guys... we have to celebrate and appreciate others too if we actually want the sport to move forward. Congrats to Ilia👏

The next King on ice!

It is interesting how most people want Yuzu to be the first. He is just the perfect "hero" character - kind, funny, laughs easily, respectful - besides the amazing skating skills and ability to move your heart with his programmes. Even if his 4A is not to be... the heart and character he has influenced the sport with is one of a kind.

That's not landed. it's a great attempt fully rotated on one foot . but a step out is not a landed jump.

Это лучший 4A, который был когда-либо заснят на видео. Илья, ты классный. Молодец.

amazing!!

If he can rotate this quad Axel this easily, I think he can do a quintuple loop or Salchow... It took humanity about 65 years to go from a triple axel(David Jenkins 1957) to Ilia Malinin cleanly rotated and landed quad Axel!

Ilia is a genius who has already perfected all the quads at such a young age. It only took him a short time to learn 4A and nearly landed it. Thanks to the inspiration from Russian skater Artur Arturovich Dmitriev who made the first attempt and also Nathan whose 4A attempts that llia has studied when they were training at the same rink.

Hmmm that’s abit of a stretch, he didn’t land 4.5 rotations because he starts with a backel approach. So in reality it’s more of a 3.5-4 rotations cuz he half turned in the first one

Like others, I felt torn, too. I know that Ilia worked hard for this, made great effort too as Yuzu did... but as it dawned upon me what Yuzuru gone through all these years on his 4A journey, I just thought "I hope Yuzu land it cleanly first". Not disregarding Ilia's achievement but just remembering Yuzuru crying last olympics pain me so much the possibility that others may land it first than him. Welp still congrats to Ilia, you did a great job!

WOW, JUST WOW!

He's 10 years younger than Hanyu Yuzuru

As you can see not yet, maybe in the future he will. Incorrect title and bad information for those who follow you. Just clickbait, I will unsubscribe.

Yuzu paved the way of pursuing the 4A. He has researched the jump for many years, and he has always said he wanted to jump his 4A, meaning well incorporated into the choreography, and with his usual great quality, with height, distance, interesting entry without telegraphing. It is always easy to follow someone who has already made great attempts, because it makes everyone believe it is possible to go for a monster like 4A. And there are many videos, footages from which skaters can learn from if they want to try a new jump. Ilia obviously has great talent but now he relies on fast rotation, there isn't that great height or any distance of the jump. The quality of video is very bad, so it is not possible to say it was rotated either (I think because of the lack of height it's probably underrotated. Definitely not fully rotated). People get excited but they shouldn't forget it is only a practice while it is completely different to try it at a competition. Ilia practices quad-quad combos that look quite easy, while he still struggles with solo quads at competitions. The landing of 4A wasn't good so he is way way far away from landing it a competition cleanly. Besides, I guess he still grows. His legs look long and he will definitely be bigger than, say, Nathan Chen. He will grow and he will loose rotational speed. Injuries may come, too. It was a good attempt but people need to chill a bit.

He should have gone to olympics. He was deserving it.

Absolutely phenomenal!! The first time I saw this kid jump I said he would be the first one to land a clean quad Axel! Nobody has ever been able to jump like this kid.....

that 3A-3A-3A-3A is easy like walking for him lol

Wow this jump is impressive. Okay but I have a question. Am I the only one who counted only four rotations and not 4,5?? I count the rotations the body makes once the feet leave the ice and i think in the video they counted the first one as he was leaving the ice.

Happy to finally have a footage of a landed 4A. Honestly I don't think Ilia will attempt it in the next season as the jump is too risky and low value. I'd think he would prioritize other quads with higher consistency to win major title first. Good thing is, Hanyu now has a clear visual image on a 4A to study. Perhaps Hanyu may land it in the next season!?! **Trying to look at bright side :)

I kid you not I was staring at the screen for a good 30 seconds with my jaw on the floor !! My brain during that whole time was going: WTF ! WTF! WTF! Is my own eyes deceiving me !!

Antes de que yuzuru agregara el 4A en una competencia tuvo que haberlo aterrizado varias veces como para tener la confiaza, tambien hay que tener en cuenta que a ilia le falta que lo agregue a la coreografía y en competencia por lo tanto todavia le falta ese proceso que yuzu vivió intentando el salto con "ten to chi to" en Jnats y los juegos olímpicos

SOMEONE CALL TH EYUZURU HANYU HOTLINE CZ MAN NEEDS TO HURRY UP IF HE WANTS TO BE THE ONE WHO FIRST LANDS IT CLEANLY OMG WOWWWWWW MALININ!!!!! OMG I JUST SAW A 4A W MY OWN EYES DIDNT I NOW

If my earlier comment gets deleted because I added a link, search for “Ilia Malinin lands quadruple Axel at jump camp” from NBC Sports Olympic channel, to see the video of a picture perfect 4A.

i don't think it's fully rotated though... just a quarter~ but great job!!! 👍👍👍 it means it's almost there😆

Why is he facing backwards when he leaves the ice ? An Axel jump is supposed to have a forwards take off 🤔

We should happy for him🥳 not just talk abt Hanyu, although i love him too🥰

It's a wonderful ..... excellent talent on right arms

He 2 fitted the landing like Yuzuru at the Japan Nats

Godness😱 It’s shock