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ImmersionRC Ghost vs TBS Crossfire vs Frsky R9 vs ExpressLRS 🔥🤔

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@terrorbirbfpv4732
@terrorbirbfpv4732 3 жыл бұрын
ExpressLRS is definitely a lot more work at the moment. Soon they will have a binary and configurator, so it will be easier to install and keep updated. It breathed new life in my R9 system which I'm super thankful for. It works flawlessly at 200hz packet rate with much better range than before.
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 жыл бұрын
Let us know how it went!
@bassohollic
@bassohollic 3 жыл бұрын
Already there kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nK6oq5V0yJmsqmQ.html
@Drift-fpv
@Drift-fpv 3 жыл бұрын
@@skree_fpv436 me too been reading all the steps to take I hope I don’t have throw the r9 stuff away it was quite an investment and i would like to carry on using it I have crossfire now but my son will soon be flying and if I don’t have buy new tx and rx for him it would be a bonus
@mrb2917
@mrb2917 3 жыл бұрын
microUSB is kind of (really) outdated. Would REALLY like to see more effort made by companies to move to USC Type C.
@makaidi398
@makaidi398 3 жыл бұрын
The good thing about MicroUSB is that we all have tons of cables lying around we dont use anymore ;)
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 жыл бұрын
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@fubarphill
@fubarphill 3 жыл бұрын
Comparing apples and oranges a bit there Albert :) All other systems you referenced are ~900MHz and Ghost is 2.4Ghz. A better comparison would be between Ghost, Tracer and the 2.4Ghz version of ELRS. I have had Ghost from very early on and aside from a few initial issues, it is now pretty solid. I am intrigued by ELRS 2.4Ghz though.
@borg1874
@borg1874 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Albert for the quick overview of the ImmersionRC Ghost and informative comparison of these products.
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jlarson42
@jlarson42 3 жыл бұрын
Great overview. I've got crossfire in everything including a 65mm whoop. I'm very happy with it. ImmersionRC makes some good stuff. Love the tramp vtx, both sizes. For someone shopping for a new system ghost is a viable option. Happy flying 👻
@RADERFPV
@RADERFPV 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sticking with crossfire because RF isn't something I like to experiment with, I need tried and true reliability. My last failsafe destroyed my quad and gopro, I prefer not to take chances in this area. I'm sure they're all good at this point though.
@gautamkrishna7421
@gautamkrishna7421 3 жыл бұрын
oddly enough, in testing no one's managed to actually make ERLS failsafe - I saw someone go 30kms on 2,4ghz (1W I think) with 99LQ. I get what u mean though, it's still in release candidate state right now
@alexfeatherstone6676
@alexfeatherstone6676 3 жыл бұрын
@@gautamkrishna7421 the 2.4g. The software for elrs is currently maxed at 250mw for 2.4g.
@gautamkrishna7421
@gautamkrishna7421 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexfeatherstone6676 holy hell that's even better then
@alexfeatherstone6676
@alexfeatherstone6676 3 жыл бұрын
@@gautamkrishna7421 join the elrs discord for more info, the only problem is the chips aren't easy to make.
@gautamkrishna7421
@gautamkrishna7421 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexfeatherstone6676 already on it :)
@anthonyclark7290
@anthonyclark7290 3 жыл бұрын
I'm getting into expresslrs. I received the boards from aliexpress yesterday but no time to power on yet
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 жыл бұрын
Have fun!
@Moonsauc3
@Moonsauc3 3 жыл бұрын
I would have gotten the ghost if the firmware were further developed. Mainly considered it because I run immersionRC rapid-fire. but decided to go with CRSF. The ease of setup makes me want the tbs/fusion for the tbs ecosystem
@justalex7416
@justalex7416 3 жыл бұрын
After Wez vídeo flying ELRS 100mw 250hz to 33km everyone is craving for 2.4ghz ELRS ready built modules and nano receivers.
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 жыл бұрын
I want all the nextGen radios to have that built-in as the default and all nano receivers to be $10. Then everything else can just die and there won't be any more debate.
@bassohollic
@bassohollic 3 жыл бұрын
Getting closer for off the shelf 2.4ghz and elrs kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nK6oq5V0yJmsqmQ.html I am working on ELRS targets for ghost TXs.
@justalex7416
@justalex7416 3 жыл бұрын
@@bassohollic What hardware is better? Ghost or DIY Wesley use.
@bassohollic
@bassohollic 3 жыл бұрын
@@justalex7416 I think both are solid. DIY has more options and a full web server for uploading firmware. Pretty cool. But ghost is easy right now. Just buy and flash with stlink. If you are interested in building I recommend going DIY. There is also a buy and sell on the elrs discord if you want to buy some pre made.
@justalex7416
@justalex7416 3 жыл бұрын
@@bassohollic What is rhe cost of a small pcb batch, for DIY JR, on jlpcb?
@skyforce1983
@skyforce1983 3 жыл бұрын
Hi what microphone are you using it's so dam clear I need one
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, someone finally noticed! I've been trying out a bunch of different microphones but it turns out the recorder is the thing that matters the most. So the microphone is a cheapo $9.99 no name mic. The recorder is this one from Sony... recorded in 16-bit PCM - amzn.to/3dpXMHJ
@shadowofchaos8932
@shadowofchaos8932 3 жыл бұрын
TBS Tracer is supposed to have a low latency. But I'm going for the Crossfire nano kit.
@43Apfel
@43Apfel 3 жыл бұрын
You can just strip the antenna wire to keep using it! It should be close to 1/4 of the 2.4ghz wavelength which is around ~31.2mm ;)... in Theorie the length of the shielding matters to, but as long as you are not doing some serious long range there should be no problems!
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I suspected as much. It's still just 2.4ghz at the end of the day!
@43Apfel
@43Apfel 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! The best software can't trick physics ... Yet ;)
@radioactivfish
@radioactivfish 3 жыл бұрын
I bought Ghost but i can’t use it with my 9xr pro, and a very strange thing is that sometimes in the « mode » menu on the ghost module, i can chose protocol CRSF or protocol CRFU. I really don’t understand how a CRSF protocol can be displayed on a immersionrc product !!
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, Albert! Thanks a lot! 😊 I still don't have any of those systems, but I'm going for Crossfire! Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@misdy7ue
@misdy7ue 3 жыл бұрын
still supportive 👏👏👏 not sure if you still remember me
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 3 жыл бұрын
@@misdy7ue Of course I do! 😃 How's everything, dude?
@misdy7ue
@misdy7ue 3 жыл бұрын
@@MCsCreations my whoop is still holding on to my abuses 😂 so im good. how about you?
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 3 жыл бұрын
@@misdy7ue Fantastic! 😃 I'm fine as well... I couldn't fly much lately, but I'm putting order in my work space and soon enough I'm going to be publishing videos again. 😊
@misdy7ue
@misdy7ue 3 жыл бұрын
@@MCsCreations awesome! I'd love to see you fly. can't wait!
@RCnerd74
@RCnerd74 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Albert. Thanks for testing on the Jumper T12. Do you also tested the ghost module on the Jumper T8SG plus? I saw your video about the crossfire module on the T8SG plus which worked. Is there still output power on the internal module of the Jumper transmitter if you switch to the external module? Looking forward to your feedback. Thanks for sharing your great videos :o)
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 жыл бұрын
I have not tested it as PPM mode isn't supported on the ghost module AFAIK. So it won't work.
@RCnerd74
@RCnerd74 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlbertKimTV OK. Thanks for your feedback. Did you do a full flight test with the T12pro transmitter and ghost module?
@pksteffen
@pksteffen 3 жыл бұрын
With Tracer and CRSF, plus TBS’s approach to making things easy to use plus range. Hard to compete. Great review and glad to see competition. Watching Quad66’s review, I wouldn’t want to try Ghost. Seems like it is not quite ready though cool technology.
@2warhammer34
@2warhammer34 3 жыл бұрын
This system is a great offer for those who haven’t committed to a specific LRS link system yet. SRXL2 does RSSI differently than crossfire. There is a video out on how to accomplish this.
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 жыл бұрын
I was not able to find information on how to get RSSI on the OSD of the DJI goggles. I know there are videos for analog but I want to get RSSI on DJI. How does this work?
@2warhammer34
@2warhammer34 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlbertKimTV understood. I’m running SharkByte. I just realized your are running DJI.
@2warhammer34
@2warhammer34 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlbertKimTV I’ll admit I don’t know much about the DJI OSD. Normally with srxl2 you run RSSI through an AUX channel.
@trevorimpulsebuyguy6398
@trevorimpulsebuyguy6398 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer crossfire because of the price but Ghost is just fine if they could match crossfire prices. Great comparison 👍
@stevemann6082
@stevemann6082 3 жыл бұрын
i think it will be popular in uk and europe because of the 868 narrow bandwidth.
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 жыл бұрын
That's a good point. I'm not from that region so it's hard to share my perspective on those restrictions.
@lucalive1302
@lucalive1302 3 жыл бұрын
Did module need extra power hows battery when you use it, drain faster than without ghost?
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 жыл бұрын
Did not need extra power and the drain was a little more on the highest power setting but not that bad
@Drift-fpv
@Drift-fpv 3 жыл бұрын
Crossfire was very easy to set up a lot easier than the r9 stuff and I have had no problems with it going to have a play with express lrs just because I got some r9 stuff that’s sit5ing doing nothing
@joevo2
@joevo2 3 жыл бұрын
Was expecting the happy model express lrs module but sadly it’s 900mhz version instead of the 2.4ghz.
@matts6807
@matts6807 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to attach the antenna before powering up the radio... I'm guessing my module burnt up after only a short time on without the antennas - my Ghost module is now useless - failsafes any time I'm fly further than 20 feet away. 😥
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is common knowledge in the FPV world. Transmitters of any kind will burn up without the antennas attached.
@matts6807
@matts6807 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlbertKimTV yes, common knowledge. It wasn't on purpose...
@tylerelliottFPV
@tylerelliottFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Disclaimer: At 2W power output you need to be HAM licensed.
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's actually anything over 1W. 1W and below is OK.
@tylerelliottFPV
@tylerelliottFPV 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlbertKimTV Agreed, but to be fair to me, Crossfire has no settings between 1W and 2W. ;)
@mrb2917
@mrb2917 3 жыл бұрын
"need" lol. watch out for the HAM police.
@tylerelliottFPV
@tylerelliottFPV 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrb2917 Oh they're real...lol
@frankcastillo8869
@frankcastillo8869 3 жыл бұрын
@@tylerelliottFPV really?
@harlock00999
@harlock00999 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mate, thank you for this video. Is there any chance that GHOST could work on T8SGV2 plus? Maybe using SBUS protocol? Let me know if you give it a try. See ya!
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it will work at least on PPM but functionality will be somewhat limited since you can do some more stuff with the openTX LUA scripts.
@harlock00999
@harlock00999 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlbertKimTV I know there'll be limitations but I'm trying to give my T8SGV2Plus a second life and this product intrigues me.
@JC-Zoso
@JC-Zoso 3 жыл бұрын
If i plug a 2 watt 2,4ghz signal booster to one of the long range protocols in that band would the range be increased?
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 жыл бұрын
Not too sure as the signal processing is optimized for their own power settings. The signal booster also boosts up the noise level which may have a worse effect on your range with these systems.
@Sergei75000
@Sergei75000 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlbertKimTV it has to be better to use a directive antenna like Moxon 2.4 GHz for increase range again. Module ghost has 2 antennas ,one for transmit and one for telemetry rx on what I read .
@gqp4800
@gqp4800 3 жыл бұрын
Liquid electric tape!!!!!
@kennymcmullen8493
@kennymcmullen8493 3 жыл бұрын
RSSI is automatically sent on the SRXL2 protocol on the ghost. LQ is not available.
@AlbertKimTV
@AlbertKimTV 3 жыл бұрын
Is it available on an AUX channel? I need it on an AUX channel to setup with my DJI goggles OSD.
@kennymcmullen8493
@kennymcmullen8493 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlbertKimTV It is just there. It doesn't use a channel. Just set it up on the OSD and it works...it is in the literature, somewhere...
@kennymcmullen8493
@kennymcmullen8493 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlbertKimTV Not on SRXL2, unfortunately. All the others...
@calumrichings7967
@calumrichings7967 3 жыл бұрын
The "rssi" on srxl2 is lq
@gerdanc
@gerdanc 3 жыл бұрын
Holy mid rolls
@bwasfpv
@bwasfpv 3 жыл бұрын
r9 systems making a comeback with the ELRS
@avsaase
@avsaase 3 жыл бұрын
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