Industry Nine - Hydra vs Torch (What's New & What's Better)

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Industry Nine is known for making some of the best mountain bike and road wheels, hubs, and accessories. Their products are all machined and assembled right here in the USA and have become synonymous with quality and innovation. While the Industry Nine Torch hub was widely loved, I9 is back with something even better this time around. Introducing the all new Hydra and 101 hubs. Featuring a jaw-dropping 690 points of engagement, the Hydra raises the bar on hub technology all while aiming to create a more reliable and consistent hub platform. We were lucky enough to have Charlie from I9 come by with a few sets to test and wanted to address some commonly asked questions regarding the new product. In this video, Jeff and Charlie discuss Industry Nine history, Hydra vs Torch, and more. Enjoy!
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@WorldwideCyclery 5 жыл бұрын

Too loud or just right? Let us know what you think of the new Hydra hubs!

@benasquith26 5 жыл бұрын

Just right

@175thStreet 5 жыл бұрын

Sound is epic!

@ChannelZeroOne 5 жыл бұрын

Torch 2.0 please. Little drag for some buzz is worth it. How often do you coast? When you do, you are probably covering the rear brake.

@GavynPendleton 5 жыл бұрын

Not loud enough!! Nah I’m just kidding. I’ve got some torch hubs that I absolutely love tho.

@sammcshane1555 5 жыл бұрын

I say, the louder the better

@TrailFeatures 5 жыл бұрын

I found the content of this video highly engaging.

@WorldwideCyclery 5 жыл бұрын

Yes!!

@donchristie420 4 жыл бұрын

Ar ar r 😜😬

@bendaff9618 4 жыл бұрын

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@sorinvladu7021 3 жыл бұрын

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@tonykasunic1 3 жыл бұрын

I see what you did there....LOL

@masterxpb 5 жыл бұрын

Just switched to a 305 w/ hydra from a roval traverse and am completely spoiled with the engagement. I also love the fact that I do not need a bell when descending as I now sound like a swarm of bees! 8)

@keirfarnum6811 3 жыл бұрын

Gotta have something to warn the bears away!

@ThunderStruckMTB 5 жыл бұрын

Man, I just can't wrap my head around the whole "flex will automatically engage 2-4 more pawls depending on how much torque is applied" thing. I'm sure they've done their homework, but my admittedly simple mind sure likes the "entire face of a DT ratchet always engaging, no matter what" scenario much better..... Great video as always guys! Your channel is so freakin' good.

@industrynine3931 5 жыл бұрын

We hear ya - the whole concept of any hardened material bending is tough to get a true grasp on. The best way to truly see it is under a microscope, but that's a tough angle to get a video of. However, we tested the product for 2+ years and got plenty of field samples out before our launch to ensure we could 100% stand behind the product. Hope you get a chance to check it out!

@zxtenn 4 жыл бұрын

I have a 2016 Focus Raven max SL with DT XRC 1200 and upgraded to the 54 tooth hub, sounds so cool and I really cant imagine anyone needing more engagement. Yeah the more engagement pawls the better and those teeth look so tiny so lets see how things work in the real world after some time and abuse, have to admit they do look hotttt on a high end bike

@hfedrums123 4 жыл бұрын

@@zxtenn try it and you'll see why

@JoshPoat 3 жыл бұрын

@@industrynine3931 I guess it's the difference between quoting points of engagement vs actual backlash under load?

@billyfaizzaly 3 жыл бұрын

It’s actually not that hard to fantom.

@21335186z 5 жыл бұрын

That batman thing was me, trying to find lost bearings in gravel below my makeshift yard workshop hahahah

@willyjaybobindy3402 4 жыл бұрын

You had me at Hydra. Also, the paint job on that van is sick!

@nanner2112 5 жыл бұрын

FYI, for a pair of 32 spoke wheels with the choice of 11 different colors, there are 65268343537143736977925527144667849979675453569710942641839519790994481 (6.5x10^70) different options to choose from. If you want the front and back to be the same, you'll have to settle on one of the 255476698618765889551019445759400441 unique options.

@midget1656 3 жыл бұрын

lol

@keirfarnum6811 3 жыл бұрын

Damn statisticians! 😁

@josephzulick8076 4 жыл бұрын

solid video, keep them up!

@joeangevine8732 5 жыл бұрын

1:56 jeff died and became a ghost

@adamenglander 5 жыл бұрын

I would love some of these for my bike!

@jared_erickson 5 жыл бұрын

Industry Nine makes the dopest wheels out there hands down!! These new hubs are the real deal!!

@bryceridesbikes 5 жыл бұрын

I just got my set of Hydra hubs. I was blown away by how indistinguishable one engagement is from the next. So little gap between the clicks.

@jugaloo5873 4 жыл бұрын

I just stick playing cards in my spokes for that expensive, irritating, look at me hub sound :)

@WorldwideCyclery 4 жыл бұрын

😅

@ShooterMcNut 5 жыл бұрын

Can't wait for my set of Backcountry 450's to arrive in a couple of weeks.

@roderick9018 4 жыл бұрын

Welp was totally down till the price tag cost as much as my hardtail 😂

@solobellimino2356 3 жыл бұрын

Lol but they are worth it.

@CoderShare 3 жыл бұрын

@@solobellimino2356 They're not. They're just bling.

@solobellimino2356 3 жыл бұрын

@@CoderShare owning CK, i9 torch and Hope. I say they are. Form and functionality

@CoderShare 3 жыл бұрын

@@solobellimino2356 Half the people I ride with around Asheville have them. Every time I've tried them I haven't really noticed a difference other than the loud hornets chasing me.

@solobellimino2356 3 жыл бұрын

@@CoderShare how many ride single speed? Maybe its not as niticable on gears

@colepritchett2063 5 жыл бұрын

that truck looks cool

@mty72 4 жыл бұрын

Need the louder hubs for the cycle paths, so no need for a bell!!

@idontcaresapo8233 3 жыл бұрын

I got the hydras and I love those with the 305 enduro rims

@ChannelZeroOne 5 жыл бұрын

I think i9 should offer the old Torch hub with the updated end caps, and pawl system. Seems like leafs could give the same pressure as the springs without being so apt to wanting fly away. Some of us want our wheels loud. Other ideas would be to put stiffer leafs in the Hydra hubs to make it louder. Either is an option many of us would pay extra for. 1. Stiff leaf pack for the Hydra, $29.95 cant see 6 pieces of metal costing much more. 2. Torch 2.0 updated torch hubs. With the same loudness you always loved. Same price as Hyda

@industrynine3931 5 жыл бұрын

You can always make Hydra louder by adding oil. It's admittedly a slightly different sound due to the increased teeth on the drivering, but definitely can get pretty loud if that's what you're looking for!

@ChannelZeroOne 5 жыл бұрын

Make the 2.0 version. never miss out of a chance to make more money.

@hardmtnbiker 4 жыл бұрын

I’m planning on building a 650b gravel set. It looks like the Mtn wheels are the only way to get 6bolt disc. I’m just not a fan of CL and like all my bikes to have 6bolt wheels. I’ll give you a call when I’m ready to configure a Wheelset

@SouthernSender 5 жыл бұрын

Hope you got to ride with Charlie. He rips.

@175thStreet 5 жыл бұрын

Huge Industry Nine fan. Love their wheels. The best high end Mtb wheels on the market.

@jose280714 5 жыл бұрын

I love my 9i wheels... they are torch... TR270 34h 29inches...😍

@WilliamCronin 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome! i just won some of these at crankworx rotorua!

@bananasstuff3344 3 жыл бұрын

wow.

@joshuahuang07 4 жыл бұрын

these manufacturing tolerances are insane to be able to offset the pawls like that

@djfunknuckle3375 4 жыл бұрын

when they talk about engagement, are they talking about the # of grooves in the hubs prawls to catch.? 2nd ? My stock hub is a 3 prawl driver by e13. would effect would goign to a 6 prawl systme Have?

@wadesafool 5 жыл бұрын

I like low engagement hubs as a DH rider having float is very necessary whenit gets Rocky! Highest I'd ever go would be like 84teeth

@Jack_Sin_Schlussel 4 жыл бұрын

I’m planning on building a light weight freeride enduro bike for park, Dh, and enduro. Would you recommend the Grade or Enduro 305. Is there a noticeable difference in strength to compensate for the weight difference?

@a.drewwalker9662 5 жыл бұрын

I own, I love...

@troycarpenter3675 3 жыл бұрын

Question; can you build wheels compatible with the new shimano 12 xtr without using the sylenc drive? I'd like to actually hear my new hub!

@saputro5384 4 жыл бұрын

My fav hub

@jonathanvasquez9604 4 жыл бұрын

Which do u prefer between CK, i9, Onyx, Spank? Ty

@MitsuFQ400 5 жыл бұрын

All hail Hydra

@aljbastasa3484 5 жыл бұрын

Can you change the pawls of a hub and if will were can you buy it????????

@brickbros211 3 жыл бұрын

Let’s face it no one buys these for the instant engagement hubs or for the fact that they are made in the U.S.A You get the for the awesome sound they make!

@schism8286 4 жыл бұрын

Average rider, but LOVE my i9 310's and hydra. Always getting compliments like "That's the sound of a super nice hub!" i9 signature

@onilovni1234 5 жыл бұрын

I added some light grease in my road Torch hubs because the noise was too high.

@Loganmulally 5 жыл бұрын

I have heard some that are nearly silent.

@GoGoggansGo 5 жыл бұрын

Logan Mulally if you use grease instead of oil

@michaelasquith5558 4 жыл бұрын

what was in the hubs during sound comparison? grease or oil?

@LowCountryMTB 4 жыл бұрын

What do I need to do to get these on my bike? Do I need a whole new shell or can I just get the hub? 2019 specialized st StumpJ.

@WorldwideCyclery 4 жыл бұрын

You can just get the hub but you will need new spokes as well and pay for install. Often times it just makes more sense to buy the whole wheel. If you want to try to pull something off like this just shoot us an email at info@worldwidecyclery.com and we can help out.

@torquecanyon8424 Жыл бұрын

Hi, I have a question. Is there only one hydra model? I saw in online hydra classic hub.

@wasupwitdat1mofiki94 5 жыл бұрын

I have I9's Torch and White Industries CLD and I prefer my CLD hubs. Better quality for the price. That said, I just got another set of wheels built and chose the White Industries again.

@josereneducharme142 4 жыл бұрын

Loud hubs scare the bears away...So they say... Hopefully.

@yamahschector Жыл бұрын

Can I upgrade older torch hubs to fit new spacing and use them again?

@VelkePivo Жыл бұрын

Years ago I put a thick grease in a Ringle hub to quiet it down and blew it up. So, as stated, not just any grease will work

@solobellimino2356 3 жыл бұрын

Luv I9

@rodrigomartinez4974 3 жыл бұрын

Can I use motorex (white grease) grease on my I9 1/1 rear hub?

@Joeymga6 2 жыл бұрын

I need the hydra

@th_js 5 жыл бұрын

Can you explain why the old intro didn't make a comeback? In the poll "Yes" won easily.

@WorldwideCyclery 5 жыл бұрын

It will! Don’t you worry :)

@willbennett7107 5 жыл бұрын

Hello again tomi

@th_js 5 жыл бұрын

Hi John

@willbennett7107 5 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@MTBIKEXC 5 жыл бұрын

Do they have a 40mm wide rim? I'm running 27.5+ tires and 30mm is too narrow in my opinion. I see the Backcountry 45's but is that too wide? BTW - Original wheels were annoyingly loud for me, new ones seem better.

@WorldwideCyclery 5 жыл бұрын

They only have 36mm and 45mm but nothing in between. 45mm probably isn't too wide! Shoot us an email at info@worldwidecyclery.com and we'd be happy to help you find the best fit.

@rickthedick5464 3 жыл бұрын

3:14 I felt that

5 жыл бұрын

What is up with that Canfield? I would love a review on that bad boy!!!

@WorldwideCyclery 5 жыл бұрын

Liam our mechanic just built it up, we can definitely get a bike check going!

@Christophe_L 2 жыл бұрын

If it flexes under load so that the rest of the pawls bite... doesn't that mean that the engagement angle is effectively larger than promised?

@Whitehawkvisionfilms 2 жыл бұрын

When i9 makes a Rattle Snake sounding hub I get the first ones for coming up with the idea!

@TheJayhawk4 5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely love my Hydras! Noticeably less drag than the Torches and perfect volume from the factory. Although...I’m tempted to run oil for that nice loud ZZZZZ!!!

@yegmtb8377 5 жыл бұрын

what does oil do serious question

@alradhi6627 5 жыл бұрын

BCXC i9 hub can use either grease or oil so nothing more or less. but yeah it is more cooler and definitely fascinating to fill oil to a bicycle hub

@yegmtb8377 5 жыл бұрын

@@alradhi6627 didnt know any of that

@Klips005 5 жыл бұрын

BCXC Yeg would make them scream a bit "louder" they say with oil

@billyhess8667 2 жыл бұрын

I'm not 100% sure on the correct terminology, is the spoke base circle the same, between the torch and hydra hubs. Could you replace a tourch and hydra with out changing spokes.

@josejojiebartolome5190 2 жыл бұрын

Sir may I know how much is the hydra industry nine?

@riotrock07 5 жыл бұрын

just what to know if this hubs comes in centerlock compatability for shimano disc brakes

@WorldwideCyclery 5 жыл бұрын

They sure do! Usually just have to special-order them because it's a lot less common than the standard 6 bolt. Feel free to reach out to us anytime and we are happy to help you out. Info@worldwidecyclery.com - 805-375-4525

@ccovemaker 5 жыл бұрын

I love the tech and the look but wish there was a silent focused hub.

@pvillaluna1 5 жыл бұрын

ccovemaker Project 321 or Onyx

@industrynine3931 5 жыл бұрын

They get pretty quiet if you add grease!

@garysmith643 2 жыл бұрын

I think the no j hook spokes is awesome ! But when I go to their site its all j hook ! What am I missing?

@patrickanacker5329 3 жыл бұрын

Why it doesn't give a single speed hub from the hydra hub system for dirtbikes

@josejojiebartolome5190 3 жыл бұрын

May i know boss how much is the price of infustry nine hydra hub

@David-np4vo 5 жыл бұрын

HOPE pro4's for me reasonable price easy and manageable to service yourself..

@ducatidave0099 5 жыл бұрын

You can disengage the majority of them with a differential from the weight of 1 under load. Magnets are useful. Let me know if you want me to sketch it

@markroberts9298 5 жыл бұрын

i9 out here with 690 engagements while other brands are on like 50

@ethanknight8461 4 жыл бұрын

Mark Roberts onyx has infinite

@bananasstuff3344 3 жыл бұрын

@@ethanknight8461 but not centre pull spokes.

@TheAdityaNaik 5 жыл бұрын

I love these hubs better than DT Swiss ones

@snowbunny1001 4 жыл бұрын

Aditya Naik Me too!! 8)

@NoBrakes23 5 жыл бұрын

I wish they'd let us have centerlock and straightpull at the same time, and I really miss their silver rims.

@CamdenWallraff 5 жыл бұрын

2.3225*10^32 color combinations O.o

@TrIpMo1981 5 жыл бұрын

The Hydra sounds exactly like my DT 350 54T.

@alcaholic640 5 жыл бұрын

Ehh naw

@TrIpMo1981 5 жыл бұрын

@@alcaholic640 mine sounds like that....

@dawsonmacie6984 3 жыл бұрын

I put these on my ccm

@arthurawacay3182 4 жыл бұрын

Did you have QR hubs?

@bananasstuff3344 3 жыл бұрын

19 do make some quick release hubs, so do hope an chris king.

@Slipsch 3 жыл бұрын

I wish they made hubs for BMX

@BentonL 4 ай бұрын

I keep destroying rims. Do you think the en350 will not break?

@nomad-ridesmtb270 5 жыл бұрын

Does hydra replace torch or will torch hubs still be available?

@industrynine3931 5 жыл бұрын

WWC still has some Torch hubs available, but going forward Hydra will replace Torch

@nomad-ridesmtb270 5 жыл бұрын

@@industrynine3931 save the Torch!! Going to miss the torch hub. Not sure if I'm sold on the hydra yet. My torch hubs still have lots of miles left in them so I've got no worries

@ianpabelian5649 2 жыл бұрын

how much

@qwerty6789x 11 ай бұрын

ever heard of Onyx Vespers? right.

@Jack_Sin_Schlussel 5 жыл бұрын

Dammmmmm. And I though Chris King hubs where good.

@Roedygr 5 жыл бұрын

Where do these things fit in a bike?

@industrynine3931 5 жыл бұрын

In the cassette as part of the rear hub!

@Robinators 5 жыл бұрын

All is well, but deem that price tag, a pair of hubs at the price of my whole mtb :D

@lakishaweaks9784 5 жыл бұрын

Just bought a pair of used torch @$500

@industrynine3931 5 жыл бұрын

Check out our 101 hubs for a more affordable option

@dominicabbott991 5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like butta baby, butta!

@alcaholic640 5 жыл бұрын

Where is it? Where is it? Lol

@Startekselva 2 жыл бұрын

Meme is cool man

@michaelkay9386 4 жыл бұрын

Onyx vesper vs hydra anyone?

@IPM71 5 жыл бұрын

Industry Nine is a nice hubs brand, but I prefer Chris King. The RingDrive is really something else !

@rollinrat4850 5 жыл бұрын

Its Not only the ring drive which is almost indestructible. They claim it will withstand 800 ft/lbs of torque. CK make the best bearings you can buy in a hub. No other hub maker produces their own bearings. No other hub is using bearings of CKs quality. Not even close. They Even make the balls!! Very few bearing manufacturers make bearings of this quality. Not even ceramics are this good. You dont throw away CK Bearings. Theyre designed to be overhauled and designed to last and last. Unlike everything else! Now we know why they cost what they do! My bearings are original, 25 years old. Well over 100000 miles on these hubs. I lost track. Used in all the nasty conditions off road. I was a machinist for 30 years, Now a bike mechanic. I recognize quality. Ive manufactured bearings for the aerospace industry. The 1st time I saw CK hubs disassembled I bought them on the spot. To my way of thinking, bearings are a more important aspect than anything else. Our wheels roll on them. More important than colors, noise and even points of engagement. Bearings are Kind of important! As is the drive mechanism. But its often overlooked for the stuff thats visible or audible!! I plan to give my hubs to my grandkids!

@IPM71 5 жыл бұрын

@@rollinrat4850 100% agreed ! Even if they are expensive, you'll keep them forever.

@rollinrat4850 5 жыл бұрын

IppatsuMan71 I think theyre a great deal, if one can afford them and if one rides lots of miles. They are a practical investment.

@NoFretBrettCSSMBFF 3 жыл бұрын

I stopped buying ChrisKing (Hubs) when he/they stopped building for 'Fads' (is what he called FatBikes back in 2014)... I would have had 197/12 & 150/15 ChrisKing (Hubs) since 2014, yet for the last SIX Years I have had to experiment with Surly Borealis Bontrager HOPE DT/Swiss... *Industry9* & *ONYX* are next...

@LifeofLeium 3 жыл бұрын

Can I run my hydra bone dry?

@rodent 3 жыл бұрын

how about e-bike use?

@parkerlovell1675 3 жыл бұрын

I came hear for the asmr

@aldacos1 5 жыл бұрын

you look like you are glowing... or a ghost, but only after 1:57

@ahmarsidd 5 жыл бұрын

You guys sell Canfield as well?

@WorldwideCyclery 5 жыл бұрын

We do not but we are a fan of Canfield.

@bbossautomotive3602 5 жыл бұрын

Dam my hubs have 3 poe:-(

@theot. 5 жыл бұрын

so torch is much more louder than hydra? hmmm... thinking of buying torch hub now hahaha

@dair805 5 жыл бұрын

$1355 Wooooooooowwwww 😐

@michaelrodgers5105 2 жыл бұрын

I still prefer profile racing hubs

@bmx08 2 жыл бұрын

2 strokes sound

@apllDgrapllD 4 жыл бұрын

Hail HydrA

@joeshaft 3 жыл бұрын

how do they hold up under trials use? those tiny pawls do not fill me with confidence. Also see you moved to leaf springs like Hope and away from your coil springs. Looks like Hope had it right all along. You're still in their shadow in terms of pure engineering. You make your hubs from bar stock and hope uses forged blanks, far far superior from hope as the forgings are stronger and lighter. Bar stock is much cheaper than getting a custom forged blank made up and the associated tooling costs, yet the cost of your hubs are crazy. You should really be priced the same or less than hopes.You use a2 tool steel inserts and your pawls are made in the exact same way as hope do. Hope also seem to have a far more advanced and up to date production facility compared to industry 9 , based on the available factory tour videos publicly available.

@fredaodh 5 жыл бұрын

hydra sounds like chris king... haha

@markusklomes2460 4 жыл бұрын

So it's basically a modified version of a profile Elite?

@bananasstuff3344 3 жыл бұрын

i don't think so, no.

@leodallapozza9909 5 жыл бұрын

7:41 Megatower?

@WorldwideCyclery 5 жыл бұрын

Hightower LT.

@Dan-qk4ns 5 жыл бұрын

As more and more companies make pawls smaller and the amount of engagement becomes smaller in size, its a recipe for disaster. I dont like the amount of movement. And pawl system will always have resistance. Its just a bad design, period. I just wish my new xtr silent hubs came in anodized, otherwise they are unbeatable. Zero resistance

@heisenberg1833 5 жыл бұрын

Now I’m just waiting for that tech to come to road!

@lakishaweaks9784 5 жыл бұрын

I think that's the issue with all of these hubs no color or style. If they all offered colors that could bring down prices & true competition.

@industrynine3931 5 жыл бұрын

@@lakishaweaks9784 Check out our 101 hubs and wheelsets for a much cheaper alternative. Hubs are available now and wheelsets will be available within the next two weeks