"Hollywood is like watching someone you love get fucked by someone you hate." ~That single line explains everything.

There are some cut scenes of Margot and Jared here on YT, and they are downright chilling. They make the Joker seem like a horror movie villain which is completely appropriate imo, but also explains why the other actors were wary around him. Jared said that Aayer shot more than 40 hours worth of film of him and Margot as Harley and Joker. In the extended cut, the Joker appears on screen for about eleven minutes. So I completely understand why he resents WB and DC. If they hadn't been trying to imitate Marvel, SS 2016 could have been amazing.

I would love to see “The Ayer Cut“ someday, I don’t think it would fix ever issue, but seeing a darker version would be a much more interesting movie

I think the Ayer version at least sounds quite a bit deeper and more visceral. If it is indeed all he wanted to do, I think it may have been a pretty solid film. The character development sounds better, especially with Harley and Joker. Probably not spectacular, with all the meddling still at hand, but seems like worth a watch!

So WB wanted Ayer's Suicide Squad to look like Guardians of the Galaxy. Then when they reboot The Suicide Squad, they bring in the very Director of Guardians of the Galaxy. They like it so much, they want him to reboot the entire DCEU as the DCU. The Director of The Suicide Squad then tells the Director of Suicide Squad that his true vision will be released as it should have been. We'll see if Gunn keeps his word.

My favorite of the Jared Leto-Suicide Squad set stories is the one where Viola Davis’ husband told Jared to his face that if he tried any of those stunts on his wife then he would kick his ass on sight. Jared did not mess with Viola not a single time for the duration of that shoot😂

Ayer's original script with parademons could have been a great build up to justice league! The suicide squad win a small battle, but Stepenwolf's arrival is imminent, so the justice league has to come together

To this day I have mixed feelings about Leto’s Joker. I feel like if Affleck had gotten his solo film, and in said film there were scenes that explored the history between Affleck’s Batman and Leto’s Joker that Ayer himself mentioned in interviews (the Robin costume shown in BvS, and Joker’s grille which was caused by Batman literally knocking his teeth out with his steel knuckled gloves) that his version of the character might have been much better. It’s unfortunate that we’ll never know now, for either of their respective versions of the character. Not to mention Joe Mangianello’s Deathstroke

Bruh, them developing Harley and Deadshot’s relationship actually would have been interesting to watch considering the hints throughout

I remember seeing the initial teaser trailer and being very excited for the movie. Enchantress looked so creepy and cool, and I was looking forward to seeing Harleen being turned into Harley. Almost everything in this video is what I had wanted to see, more of enchantress and a true depiction of joker and Harley’s toxic relationship.

It's incredible and maddening the way studios still haven't learned not to mess with the creator's vision.

Considering WB's track record, I foresee the same problems with James Gunn's new DCU. It's already starting out on the wrong foot with confusion from audiences

I enjoyed Suicide Squad, but maybe the dark tone would have actually helped it in credits so I can’t wait to see the “Ayer cut” when it hopefully comes out

Yeah the Ayer Cut sounds like a way better version of Suicide Squad than the theatrical version just like the Snyder Cut was way better than the theatrical version of Justice League

I can't believe how insane it is to hire a trailer editing company for a major motion picture

Wow, great breakdown! They really do need to release this; it sounds much better and unfair that they totally changed Ayer's vision!

If the Ayer cut really releases one day. That would mean there are 3 version of the same movie. Suicide squad (2016) Suicide squad Extended Edition (2016) David’s Ayer Suicide squad (20- -)

We NEED this film

I think the main issue was Suicide Squad had too much going on. I think it would've been easier if the premise was "Amanda Waller test her Task Force X by having them hunt down The Batman. As they do however, they come into conflict with Gotham's Clown Prince of Crime and a member of their own team" so the world ending scope is changed for a just crazy enough action film

I want so see SS with the tone of the first trailer. That was the DCEU we all wanted.

Thank you for all your hard work!

I'd be very much down with seeing an Ayer cut. I'm not sure if it was different in any version, but I really laughed out loud when Boomerang got up and left at the end of the big inspirational bar scene. Very funny, but completely undercut when he just pops back up in the slow mo hero shot in the very next scene. I don't think a great version of The Suicide Squad exists, but I'd wager the Ayer cut will bump it up a notch.

I'm sure the Ayer cut would have been better than what we got, but it still sounds like it has many of the same problems that the studio version does- the entire premise of the Squad being assembled for black-ops missions only to spend the rest of the movie hunting their own renegade teammate, Amanda Waller being dangerously incompetent but still presented as a mastermind, "that" version of The Joker, the whole idea of making a Suicide Squad so early in the DCEU timeline in the first place, the DCEU starting off after Jason Todd has been murdered, Deadshot being more of an anti-hero than a proper villain... I'd be mildly interested in seeing it, but it sounds like a film that was flawed from the outset.

So glad I found this channel, you sir have a new sub 👍🏼

Absolutely loving these videos

I know it could’ve been sooo much better without the studio’s involvement in butchering it. Not award winning but a complete vision from the director. Ayer’s movies all have depth.

Wow. I actually didn’t know anything you described the Ayer Cut to be. Thank you for your extensive research. I hope we get to see it one day. Even if it’s just for fun like the Snyder Cut.

Your videos of late have been top notch! 🤟love this one.

Favorite part of the week, watching Bullets & Blockbusters on Saturday morning, another great video

I really wanna see the ayer cut!! I hope it will come out soon. I would pay for it!

I want too see the Ayer Cut. Make it a long film like the Snyder Cut. Warner just refuses to stop fcuking up.

Great content as always!

Wow the original version sounded incredible now I want to watch it.

Another great video! Really makes me want to watch the Ayer cut

See! Now this would have been so much better! More Joker!

I just realized that Kitana, the actress, is Kimiko from The Boys!!🤯

I’ve been dying for this video! Thanks for looking into this, I love your channel. Keep doing what you do!

Thanks for the video ❤

While I would love to see the Ayer Cut someday, I think it was an inherently short sighted idea to make a Suicide Squad movie as the third film in a DC shared film universe. Still, loving the creative freedom that directors and the like are getting nowadays with comic book movies

That image of him in his pad, surrounded by knives, guns, laptops, and baby clothes is the definitive Joker image.

The WB cut of Suicide Squad is proof that BvS was *really Poorly* received from audiences.. and the studio was in panic mode! 😄😄

Great video! Hopefully we get to see the true vision one day!

I just hope we get to see the cut as promised by Gunn someday. I trust it will be a lot better and same as Leto's Joker. Ayer said it scared the shit out of the executives and fans who got to see it said it is a more different darker movie and Leto steals it.

Love this channel. Weird compliment but your voice is not annoying. And you work hard and it shows

Really great job man I would love to see the Ayer cut sometime but this covers can't wait for more.

The pronunciation of katana damn near killed me

This is fantastically researched! I'd love to see one of these videos on MIB 23, the cancelled Men In Black and Jump Street crossover film

Ayer's original version of Suicide Suicide may not be a perfect movie, but I believe at least could be a more cohesive product, the pacing and editing would be better, the story would make a lot more sense and would be accurate to the first trailer released in Comic Con, that was the movie I wanted to see and not some butchered version by the studio with shitty editing, lazy reshoots and forced humor put into it. I hope this version gets released one day. You could try to talk about some of Flash's cancelled projects, Warner was trying to make a Flash movie since the 80s basically, just to end up on that disaster released this year. The most notorious ones are the David Goyer version, that would have Ryan Reynolds as Wally West, and the Greg Berlanti one, with the same team of writers responsable for the first version of Green Lantern script, later on they also started to develop the Arrowverse on the CW and Berlanti put a lot of elements of his Flash movie script in the first season of The Flash show. The two scripts are available online and both are MUCH better than the crap version that came out this year. Also would be fun if you talk about the cancelled Green Arrow project "Escape From Supermax", this would have been a pretty violent movie with Oliver Queen trying to escape this prison called Supermax and a lot of C-list villains from DC would have appeared, the script is full available online. Also Warner wanted Matt Damon to play the role of Green Arrow in this movie. Another DC cool project that never see the light of day is Guillhermo Del Toro's Justice League Dark, starring John Constantine, Zatanna, Deadman, Swamp Thing and Etrigan, the script is also online, and that one leaked just 2 years ago I believe.

Really looking forward to seeing this one day still

One of the things that I said from the beginning was that it was so odd that Suicide Squad was the 3rd movie in the DC Extended Universe yet had nothing to do with the storylines set up in Man of Steel and BvS (outside of that extremely tacked on and illogical post credit scene between Waller and Wayne). I wondered why they didn’t have the SS go after some international terrorist or something only to find out he was in possession of a Mother Box and being assisted by Parademons, which would have tied into Justice League later. Clearly Ayer had something like that in mind and the “design by committee” at WB botched it. Also it might have worked with Snyder’s JL too: introduce the Mother Box, Parademons, and Steppenwolf in SS, but have Enchantress be the ultimate Steppenwolf minion at the end, and set up JL as Steppenwolf teases a larger invasion. It would have tied to Snyder’s cut just fine. All of this goes to show that Snyder and Ayers had a better sense of story arcs, styles, and that universe than any DC/WB Executive ever did.

I remember seeing this in theaters cringing every time another song came on like “why” this is nuts.

I can't describe how excited I was based on the original, somber trailer. And then, well, you know.

WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN.... The Entire DCEU

We would all really want to see David Ayer’s true and final vision for this movie. #ReleaseTheAyerCut

Like I said in your Man of Steel 2 video another movie that would’ve been amazing but interference from the studio kept us from seeing an awesome movie

A movie titled SUICIDE SQUAD with VILLAINS as protagonists, and an EVIL WITCH as the antagonist and WB was worried that it was too dark and dreary?? What were they expecting??

Ayer's film deserves to be seen

Can anyone imagine a world where Warner Brothers actually trust the Creative Vision of the directors that they hired? Sure would be nice to see

Fucking finally there's somebody actually discussing what happened to the movie, they took his serious and personal Suicide Squad movie and tried to make it into Guardians of the Galaxy. They cut a lot of his El Diablo's story(which was personally connected to David Ayer because he was in the gangbanging lifestyle and turn his life around to be a director) when he was supposed to be the main focus being an ex gangbanger supervillain that accidentally killed his family with his superpowers and was going to be useful to the world by turning into his full fire demon hold back Steppenwolf and stall the invasion and live.

I wonder if now that Marvel's style is on the wane a little, whether a darker Suicide Squad film would be better received than it would have back then, when any non-Marvel superhero film was going to struggle a bit. I personally always found the calls for Ayer Cut slightly exhausting, but after watching this video I'd actually be interested to see it now.

The Theatrical Cut felt like a Harley & Friends movie to me. I'm glad Ayers wanted to give more depth and focus to the other characters. Also me being Native American, I was sad Slipknot got such a quick death in both versions. I know the guy dies but why did they have Adam Beach promote the movie? Poor guy. 😂

That shit with Steppenwolf would have been p e r f e c t.

A slight side track but within the realm; could you consider creating a reaction tribute to the late and amazing Kevin Conroy? On November 15th will be the first anniversary of his death. He was the sole reason I got into acting. I have a voice acting background and there are some preconceived notions that it's not as demanding as regular acting; but the vocal training itself and perfecting the craft may take more time than any acting school. l feel like he's a bit underrated as Batman (ditto Mark Hamill as Joker) and even non existent in the conversation when the motion pictures are brought up. PS. You almost saw me as Leon in those new Resident Evil games :)

WB and Disney will never learn to stop messing with perfectly fine movie's even great one's

I never heard him say that before about hollywood. That is one of the most poignant and middle of the dart board takes on Hollywood I've ever heard 😂 This was a good video. I remember reading a lot about this and the different cuts but I've never seen it laid out so well. There's a lot of things in here that I I didn't know about as well. I had no clue about the Deadshot romance. But I knew about the test screening and the trailer park trailer.. great job

Thanks for the video, would you rather have the Ayer cut for this movie, or the Trank cut for Fantastic Four 2015, Josh Trank said that his original cut was great but the studio meddling and conflicts ruined it and I can tell

I still think I prefer Gunn's version. But I wouldn't mind seeing Ayer's vision as well. i kind of wanted to see more of Enchantress and thought she got a raw deal. also i had some fun scene ideas in my head for what her interactions with Harley would've been if they were doing mission stuff together. Like Enchantress being really weirded out by Harley being friends with her despite all her creepiness and trying to freak everybody out.

2:32 "Never go full Joker." Look who's talking, Will.

I think they gunn will eventually release it and I for one can't wait!

I still remembered the leaked teaser from comic con and it was beautifully dark. Then boom everything change when the fire nation came...

Dear will, you never go full Will.

got the coffee boss man great way to start the day

Really hope Gunn keeps his word. Much rather see this then yet another reboot Batman.

I know it’ll never happen but I’m a big fan of his work and would be very interested to see his cut. Even more so than the Snyder cut tbh.

So I'm actually am friends with the actor who played Jokers, right hand man. At the time another friend of mine was the Right Hand Man's assistant, he called her and asked for dead pig, because Jared Leto called him and said he needed the pig. He also would invite his Right Hand Man over for s*x parties. The dude legit was nuts in the making of this movie.

I got to be honest, I checked out once "House of the Rising Sun" was heard. I thought it was simply too cliche and was evidence it was directed by a committee.

i want this version so badly!

As someone else said, Hollywood learns the wrong lessons from successful movies.

What Could Have Been: Terry Gilliam’s or Paul Greengrass Watchmen

Great video on a sad story. I remember going to see this one in the theaters with my daughter and we both agreed that the best part was the end when they cut to 21 pilots playing Heathens. Crazy how this studio had chance after chance to NOT mess this up yet they did. Jeff Johns is a classic example of someone with a creative mind who has no business being in Live Action movie production. I truly hope this one gets its Ayer Cut release and I’m pretty sure this one will be very very good as Ayer has said it’s done and there’s hardly anything else to do. We won’t be seeing him do what Snyder did when he was given the $70 million to fix his cut. I’m a huge Snyder fan but he got carried away and decided to give us everything which resulted in over 4 hours of too much. I loved it but I understand why many were critical of the length and unnecessary scenes. This Ayer cut won’t have any of that. It’ll be a simple clear cut “F U” to try old WB’s regime showing what they could’ve had

To this day, I say that Jared Leto's Joker was underrated and underutilized. His Joker was a modern day Golden Age Joker( the clown prince of crime, not the bronze age homicidal maniac that Ledger and Phoenix portrayed.) I loved the design, the tatoos the grills replacing the teeth that Batman knocked out, the slicked back hair, suits, clothes, chains guns cars, and henchmen. It all screamed that this Joker had a value for money and power. These things also enhance and feed into the themes of possesion, and control that the Joker exudes towards Harley, which was apart of their original dynamic in TAS. I also loved how good he pulled off the comic book frame refrenceces in the movie, that shot of him with his face burnt hair ruined in the tux looks just like the Joker in the Batman Endgame comic which released not too long before Suicide Squad was released. I really hope people one day come to understand how unique and refreshing Jared Leto's Joker was so we can see another Joker like this in the future.

Another example of WB sabotaging their own project because the new leadership at that time was attempting to change direction mid contract with the creative talent, instead of trusting their process and following their lead. SS was supposed to be something like Fury and Training Day and everything else Ayers has created. WB and especially the internet media coverage was absolutely horrible, constantly pushing blame onto the director when it’s obvious who was dropping the ball.

Is it possible you can do Chronicle 2? It seems its not coming out anytime soon or at all.

We deserve the Ayer Cut.

They always learn the wrong lessons, just cus one thing fails doesn't mean that same approach won't work for other things. Dark and drab doesn't work for BvS, but for suicide squad it would have fit perfectly.

The biggest mystery to me is why everyone hated this movie. I watched it once and enjoyed it, even thought the deadshot character was great. Maybe if I watched it a second time my opinion might change, but I remember liking it.

Damn I would’ve loved to see Deadshot and Harley together

I so excited to see the Ayer Cut of Suicide Squad.

Suicide Squad's gotta be the worst experience ive ever had in cinemas, studios test their movies with people with no IQ that prolly watch good doctor or something, hope one day we get the Ayer Cut, Ayer is such a great director

If you are hiring a director, you should respect that your hiring them for the previous work they have done and should respect their orginal vision. Just imagine if Apocalypse Now had studios telling him how to do that film.

I really wanna see the Ayer cut. You can see so much promise when watching that movie and the more I hear about it, the more I wanna see what it was originally. I hope James Gunn delivers on his promise to let David Ayer finish his movie the way he wanted to.

I’m more interested in seeing David Ayer’s Suicide Squad than I was in seeing Jack Snyder’s Justice League. DC has nothing coming out between Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom (2023) and Superman: Legacy (2025), right? So why not release David Ayer’s Suicide Squad next year as they transition from the DCEU to the DCU?

I think this could have been a great joker under the right direction and story

Wow its almost like Ayers understood the Joker and Harley relationship and now instead we get people posting about how they are relationship goals. No one ruins DC like DC manages to do themselves :/

Even if the ayer cut is good. Honestly he went too far left or right with how dark the movie was suppose to be. The studio was smart for stepping in.

1:18 Probably the biggest problem with the entertainment industry today (movies, TV shows, video games, etc). If they waited until the movie was ready to announce its release then the filmmakers would have had enough time to fix mistakes. They trapped themselves by putting a specific date on the calendar, forced to either rush production or delay the film, either way the look bad.

Anne Sarnoff. A menace to all quality films, filmmaking, and filmmakers.

Brutally honestly, while I do hope the Ayer Cut gets released one day, not only to see the differences to the Theatrical Version on screen and out of Morbid Curiosity, but also because I believe every directors original vision should be seen regardless of the qaulity, I also don't think his cut would be that good. I mean, yeah, sure it would be better then the Theatrical Version (hell, anything would be better then the Theatrical Version of Suicide Squad 2016, that's one of the reasons I love James Gunns The Suicide Squad, because it's literally just a better version of the concept), we also have to remember, Ayer is the same man who gave us not so great and outright bad films like Sabotage, Fury, Tax Collectors, and Bright. He's not the same director who gave us Training Day and End of Watch anymore and like M. Night Shyamalan, Damian Chazelle, and Michael Bay, his newer films are just not great. Not to mention, I'd argue this situation is slightly different to that of JL, with Justice League, almost the entirety of Snyders original vision was changed into what Whedon gave us in 2017 with very little from Snyders Version remaining, to the point where it almost feels a different film. With Suicide Squad, while not all of Ayers stuff was left in, a good amount of it is still there. Granted spliced with reshoot stuff and also heavily edited to Cringe levels of Nauseum, but still. Meaning while yes it would be a better made film, the Ayer Cut I feel would not only still have some of the same problems the Theatrical cut did, but also it I still feel it wouldn't be enough to save it from being a bad movie, or at least a mid movie, because like I said, anything, and I mean ANYTHING, is better then the Theatrical cut. It also means more Jared Leto Joker which...no, just.....just no. With this said, I still hope the Ayer Cut is released one day, even though I wonder how Gunn is going to do it. He can't make it canon to his universe, because that would mean the Death of Superman already happened by the time Superman Legacy occurs, and also there's alot of stuff in SS 2016 (the Ayer Cut I mean) that I think would contradict the new DCU, and even TSS 2021 for that matter. So it have to be an Elseworlds Labelled title, but Margot Robbie plays Harley Quinn as well in the Ayer Cut, and Gunn will most likely be staying for the new DCU, so I wonder how Gunn will be able to release and have it be a Elseworlds Labelled film without confusing people.

From what I heard by someone that worked in the film, what was cut, doesn't make the movie better. The extended cut that was put out on Blu-ray, that's an edited version of his original cut. Everybody liked Ayer. Everybody liked working with him and stuff. The only thing that they were upset with is that they thought the movie sucked. Remember, unlike with Justice League another director did not come in and reshoot the movie without him. He reshot it. And he worked in the process of the rewrites too. That were required of him as well. He kept on saying Deadpool was the inspiration for the Suicide Squad changes. But the whole reason everyone came back for reshoots was because of Guardians of the Galaxy. Which came out the year before. And that's what they were comparing it to. And that's what the trailer was compared to as well. Again, that's what I heard from someone that worked on the film and he was brought in for the reshoots as well.

Uggghhhh I would've loved to see Ayer's cut!