Inside Tuchel’s Chelsea sacking: ‘Silent’ flight, Cucurella deal and Nagelsmann interest
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Күн бұрынChelsea have parted company with Thomas Tuchel just a month into the new season and look set to appoint Graham Potter as his replacement - but how did it come to this?
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00:00 Tuchel's sacking
10:04 Why Potter?
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@TheAthleticFCPodcast Жыл бұрын
Which Chelsea player will benefit most from Tuchel's departure? 👇
@holger4644 Жыл бұрын
Let's see - but Cucurella will definitely be happy 😂
@intermediate212 Жыл бұрын
Maybe Pulisic.
@lukegoodwin1158 Жыл бұрын
Lukaku
@tuffmbassador522 Жыл бұрын
@@lukegoodwin1158 watch him return next season
@maudalmusicalmachines3541 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Boehly - "He's an innovator and perfectly fits our vision for the club." Might sound funny coming from an American but I think it's great that an English manager is getting a chance to run an elite team with very real chances at winning European and domestic trophies! It's been awhile. Which player will benefit most? *All of them!* And now Christian Pulisic will get the only thing he's wanted all along: to be judged *on his actual performance* and to be given the chance... not the guarantee... the chance... to show what he can do.
@aaronharvey6991 Жыл бұрын
Tuchle has been through what has been a perfect storm. His divorce, Chelsea sanctions and state forced sale, new owners removing all hierarchy, becoming the main point of media reference for all going ons with Chelsea, bickering players around all those changes. Worst period for any coach possibly ever.
@nickddd333 Жыл бұрын
You could tell over the last 30 days he was hanging on by a thread. He went from super positive to pretty down and seemingly depressed
@arahb_guy9579 Жыл бұрын
That’s the truth ✅✅👌
@Gazzi79 Жыл бұрын
The real reason he got sacked cos he said NO to signing Ronaldo so Yanks boss fired him.
@johnruskin4330 Жыл бұрын
Well written, TT was never given chance, he held the club together during that period and that's how they Thank him
@sphamandlambambo9990 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant analysis bro. Couldn't have put it any better. I thought they would eventually get their own guy. I also confused though why they hire Potter first before getting football director, just seems another storm coming.
@premabaul7570 Жыл бұрын
Graham Potter knows...he does the job for a year... if he wins its good for his Cv...if he loses he collects his 5 year pay packet and goes to manage Villa
@purehyperbole5727 Жыл бұрын
The Villa/Palace backstop.
@alexmuriuki2151 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Manchester united and Manchester city will suck him and bring Tuchel back what a gwan 😆😆😆😆
@duwaynem.467 Жыл бұрын
I don't think he did not enjoy having a say in transfers , but in reality you're only one person, one coach. Its the extra work, pressure and added technical responsibility of doing a director of football's job that kills you. And maybe that's what he meant in saying he does not enjoy it...
@itsmeprasad1987 Жыл бұрын
Like Gary Neville said ted Bohely=Ed Woodward
@terry3252 Жыл бұрын
@@itsmeprasad1987 Neville is a clown.
@UnfairEnforcer Жыл бұрын
@@itsmeprasad1987 completely different; Woodward and his team had or allowed little input from managers that seriously wanted certain reinforcements. Boehly was trying the opposite approach of expecting Tuchel to explain and take the time to help with transfers every day of the window.
@hnaku8748 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure he was more than okay with the say in transfers if the past evidence is to go by. But the new expected role(at least reportedly) from the manager from now is to be more than that. For example, Thomas had to give his input on next director of football. That's not just say in transfers and on pitch stuff, but also the overall working process of the club. Which he has never been familiar with. Perhaps it overwhelmed him. Potter is expected to do similar now. And the new regime probably sees him as better fit. That's the only logical sense for the early sacking. While initially the owners had good impression, they found out Tuchel wasn't the guy for the new role in the brief spell since takeover. Where the managerial role is more expanded than it ever was under Roman. Just like most of previous regime were victims of circumstance, Thomas Tuchel was too.
@Yob365 Жыл бұрын
What is up with you guys and this "added pressure" from having a say in transfers. It was only for one tranfer window, until they got a director of footbal in. 1 TRANFER WINDOW. And this guy is whinning about it, give me a break. Ted gave him a blank check basically, and this guy cant handle it for, i repeat again, 1 TRANFER WINDOW . deserves the sack tbh
@nrox8823 Жыл бұрын
Simon Johnson is not going to say anything bad about the club because he would obviously lose his privileges at the club with regards to the travel press conferences and what not
@ThePacemaker45 Жыл бұрын
definitely a moral conflict of interest most fans should be aware of. That's why I always take what ever he says with a grain of salt.
@anthonymitchell8893 Жыл бұрын
travels in style does that boy no hobsons choice for that c--t
@ktkee7161 Жыл бұрын
The king is dead long live the king. Unfortunately a lot of people do fall for the spin, but by any judgement, the way the owners have undermined our brilliant ex boss it disgusting. How do these fools get to be billionaires you wonder. Who thought we'd pine for the patience of roman! Matt law is the worst Boelhy sycophant.
@user-te1le7ck6b Жыл бұрын
Same as most PR puppets , don’t know why he bothered to be honest
@TetraDizzle Жыл бұрын
Would be nice if that David fella could put down his phone and actually listen to what you two have to say, just like you both did when he had his say!
@ayodejiakinyemi Жыл бұрын
I’m sure you typed this before watching the video to the end or you would have seen that David shared breaking news about Potter’s appointment at the end. They were in the middle of a fluid situation and so he had to be on the lookout for any updates
@TetraDizzle Жыл бұрын
@@ayodejiakinyemi I did start writing this prior, but he didn’t listen to a word they said, he was too busy searching up his say
@seadkolasinac7220 Жыл бұрын
@@TetraDizzle that's his job
@opensystem4708 Жыл бұрын
He does this every time. You ain’t Di Marzio! Plus the transfer window is over. Show some respect, What could be that important every time.
@newrecruit100 Жыл бұрын
I think the previous regime’ recruitment mistakes are a big reason as to why he are here now. I also think Chelsea’s form this calendar year is largely down to injuries. We lost both wing backs. Our midfield kept missing time leading to Jorginho getting overplayed. Is it any surprise it was spotty. Not to mention this team had played soooo many games.
@solo2873 Жыл бұрын
Injuries and an overplayed team excuses only works for Liverpool
@james4ddy Жыл бұрын
Disagree the sanctions precentor keeping rudiger a huge loss and tuchel was unable to get the best out of lukaku and werner
@dgoldberg4597 Жыл бұрын
Still tho, the refusal to move mount and Havertz permanently to midfield was a huge issue. Hopefully Potter can spot how great they could be as a midfield partnership
@newrecruit100 Жыл бұрын
@@dgoldberg4597 Mount isn’t an effective midfielder and Havertz definitely isn’t a midfielder lol.
@Flipmode1900 Жыл бұрын
The lack of stick marina and Scott get for the absolute mess this squad is, is remarkable.
@littleninj0r Жыл бұрын
We've been found out since November/ December last season. He has offered no solutions against teams that sat back Vs us and struggled to score in big games. If we conceded first, it was highly unlikely that we would score. When the system was really working, we would just occupy the penalty area and wait for the inevitable penalty while hoping to not get hit on the counter
@Nobodyknowswhy769 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!! If tuchel stayed we were going to be worse
@octopuliander6291 Жыл бұрын
finally somebody says this out loud...Everyone I know is crying poor or unfairness songs over Tuchel. I feel bad for him but he doesn't or would have further answers. Hasn't in a while.
@jordanhenderson8238 Жыл бұрын
That’s not Tuchel’s fault Chelsea has created the 3rd most chances in the league since last December. It’s the players. Tuchel doesn’t send them on the pitch to just play the ball safe.
@Tekcybe Жыл бұрын
I think you are right.. somehow, teams have started to sit back and let us have more possession of the ball and attack-wise we weren't so good. If teams eventually score against us,we would eventually have to just start our playing around all over again without last-thirds passes
@octopuliander6291 Жыл бұрын
@@jordanhenderson8238 It is Tuchel's fault very much..Not actually to be the guy who can't finish after the chances are created, but to play the same people over and over again who miss those chances on the regular, outside their positions, or formations that don't suit their top capabilities. (aka Havertz, Werner, Hudson Odoi, Pulisic, Lukakau)...His stuborness IS very much to blame and that is why he was sacked...Sad but deserving
@anonymousanonymous4690 Жыл бұрын
His divorce is affecting him more than people say it is
@Dbo_Sports Жыл бұрын
It always does… other than an adherence to faith, I don’t understand why men are still getting married, especially in the position that he’s in. Divorce is catastrophic.
@chelsea9686 Жыл бұрын
His divorce, sure. But turning up to the training ground with your 20 year younger girlfriend a few weeks after your wife moved out did not go over well with the religious players on the team.
@TheNotoriousNemo Жыл бұрын
Divorce ruins the men, I do feel empathy for that. Alot of divorces are done for stupid reasons. I'm sure his head is still spinning from it.
@Tomgood1984 Жыл бұрын
Double divorce now!!
@TristianoLonaldo Жыл бұрын
@@chelsea9686 is this true???
@bubbadoright9271 Жыл бұрын
Why isn't anyone tying Pulisic not getting playing time and an American owner with Tuchle getting sacked.
@UraFlight Жыл бұрын
Because this is forbidden in the media. They told to Chelsea players just to say short : Thank you
@yanders4285 Жыл бұрын
Ornstein never listens and repeats what others have just said.
@MrDemiraca Жыл бұрын
If he didnt listen how could he repeat what they said? Its just basic callback communication to agree with stuff..
@tennisblood Жыл бұрын
The job of a manager in EPL is a great one. Millions no matter what, lose or win, trophies or not....
@m_almeida_9955 Жыл бұрын
None of your podcasts are working. Either on the app or on spotify.
@mushroomhater9850 Жыл бұрын
I as a chelsea supporter i do not get attached to managers that come to Chelsea i know he is time limited once he joins the board and the owners will love him but once poor results starts to happen and the team under performs for the standards of the board and the owner the sacking is just around the corner
@Q9Teen Жыл бұрын
I'm just hoping that Chelsea won't become like MU after Sir Alex Ferguson leaves. MU became a "business" rather than Football Club
@nelsonenegbuma6033 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@RedPanda450 Жыл бұрын
I’m cautiously optimistic about the appointment, but this is definitely a valid concern.
@hnaku8748 Жыл бұрын
Every major football club is a business now. It's just that most are poorly run.
@jackzeldon2883 Жыл бұрын
This is actually worse b/c Boehly believes he's the smartest guy in the room & he's a finance guy who got rich stealing from the working class like all US Oligarchs..... One of these azz clown owns the NBA team I root for & it's the same bull ish - we need to collaborate - translated I need lots of people to kiss my arse & tell me Im smart - Boehly must go
@RedPanda450 Жыл бұрын
@@jackzeldon2883 If you’re talking about Dolan, he’s a 🤡 and a trust fund baby. Boehly hasn’t proven to be that.
@darrenlee9237 Жыл бұрын
Let's just gloss over Champions League victory, the European Super Cup win, the World Club cup success (all under Tuchel). And let's omit to mention him having to steady the ship under the sanctions imposed by the UK government after the Russian invasion of Ukraine of 24th February and the subsequent freezing of bank accounts, an inability to recruit any fresh talent whilst Abrahamovich remained at the helm, the fact that literally the entire boardroom and management at the club have been pensioned-off, and of course there was the misfiring £89m superstar striker who couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo during his season at Stamford Bridge... I think that The Todd would have been hard-pressed to find anyone who could have coped better under such circumstances. The new owners hardly went out of their way to inspire confidence in Tuchel, despite his proven abilities and obvious success.
@leogriev Жыл бұрын
Well said. TT has been fantastic for the club and all this crap about players s wanting to leave then so be it. The whole point was to rebuild with players capable and willing to play for chelsea.
@jp115jop7 Жыл бұрын
Any manager who picks Aubameyang over CR7 deserves to get fired. I would've done the same thing. Just common sense.
@leogriev Жыл бұрын
@@jp115jop7 you mean the cr7 that cant even get into united team? The 37 year old one right? 👏
@jp115jop7 Жыл бұрын
@@leogriev Yes, the second best scorer of the league last season. 😉
@darrenlee9237 Жыл бұрын
Interesting isn't it. How he neglected to sign such a striker with a stellar pedigree. Is it Ronaldo's ego that works against him? Would his rampant megalomania be enough to disrupt the balance of the dressing room? Is that why CR7 was overlooked? There must be a reason why these huge clubs don't fancy him, regardless of his age or wage demands. He's still a phenomenonal athlete. Or doesn't he work hard enough at tracking back and pressing?
@BinkyTheGoddessDivine Жыл бұрын
Chelsea lost 1-0, not 4-1. And that's called a disaster?? Well, at least Pulisic and Hakim must be the happiest people on earth rn. Potter better get rid of them before they get rid of him.
@xHavokZzx95 Жыл бұрын
Yes I agree when Hakim came on he was awful trying to take on players & don’t get me started on the free kicks especially the 2nd he shouldn’t of taken just shows his attitude recently. Pulislip well… I’ve got nothing nice to say about him so I’m not gonna say it.
@cja896 Жыл бұрын
Potter will soon learn how bad Pulisic is
@maxp5422 Жыл бұрын
Both are garbage I've supported them enough had such high hopes for ziyech thought he'd get the world to notice man was I wrong
@Keivigan Жыл бұрын
@@maxp5422 Same here, after Pulisic goal vs City a few years ago I thought we had our new hazard. Man was I wrong
@djt6613 Жыл бұрын
@@maxp5422 It's so clear tho he has been horribly misplayed and unhappy. Guarantee you if potter figures out how to properly play and manage him he'll go back to his ajax form
@psyseraphim Жыл бұрын
I kind of feel like maybe the new owners have seen what's happened at Newcastle with Eddie Howe and thought "that's what we need" harmony between the players, fans and owners and a young progressive coach who plays exciting football which is why they've gone for Graham Potter. I hope they stick with him because he could do really well at Chelsea. The main thing that needs to happen is for the fans to give him time.
@friendlychat34 Жыл бұрын
I think you're thinking of Arsenal in this analogy 😜
@dchegu Жыл бұрын
So a CL winning manager is regarded less than an English manager in an overachieving club who has won absolutely zero titles?
@serwangerstark8406 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, Johnson, I wasn't surprised at the sack either.
@rubeng3 Жыл бұрын
First things first Potter should sell Pulisic and Ziyech in January. Behaviours are unacceptable.
@UraFlight Жыл бұрын
He’s not gonna sell Pulisic
@brianstoodley9830 Жыл бұрын
We have been rubbish for months
@purehyperbole5727 Жыл бұрын
Ornstein faking looking at his phone like some hot take is about to land. You're just looking at Twitter!
@salsabil44 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what part Tuchel´s total resistance to Boehly bringing in every US marketing man´s wet dream, CR7, played in his sacking?
@johnruskin4330 Жыл бұрын
Boehly was also considering Ruben Amorin from Sporting Lisbon, but felt give English coach a chance, that way fans and public become, oh gee great one of ours in the Top job, but sorry he will be dismissed and replaced by Amorin . Potter does not have the tactical nous to match Premier plus CL plus games every 3/4 days so to go from managing 1 game a week to that I seriously have my doubts
@korandlapraneeth Жыл бұрын
Why give him a 5 year contract ? Why not a 2/3?
@PN-92 Жыл бұрын
He needed compensation money for the divorce settlement so he orchestrated a design to get that done.
@kramyelruh1 Жыл бұрын
The speed with which potter was appointed would indicate that the new owners had this planned weeks ago
@gilliansloane-seale1672 Жыл бұрын
No, I don't think so. I think Todd & Co. know exactly the type of manager/coach they want. TT simply didn't fit the model, as they soon found out. So, they quickly looked around, did their research and nailed down a couple of possible candidates who would fit their model. Todd & Co., I am sure, won't be too upset if they don't get too far in CL. Winning the EPL is their focus. Remember that the pinnacle of North American sporting success is winning your league. Chelsea recently won CL (2020) and Super Club etc. You can't win everything in one year with new owners and a new philosophy...
@robertfletcher4065 Жыл бұрын
I do not support Chelsea but I wish Graham Potter luck. It is a big gap in managing Brighton to that of Chelsea. He has not only the EPL to cope with but also The Champions League. I do hope he does not go the same way as other Chelsea mangers.
@danai8806 Жыл бұрын
David is always checking his phone on these things...feels a bit rude to the others imo
@thomasopp9104 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's just a way of saying, "I don't care what you have to say." And no, you can't do both. Multitasking is a myth
@CarlinConnolly Жыл бұрын
dress it up however you like... this is a poorly timed decision. Either wait until the WC when there is time to bed a new Manager in or get rid in July. This squad is now going to get another overhaul next summer whether Potter stays or goes - why involve him in signings if you had doubts about keeping him? would have made more sense to just replace who left and leave it at that until you either sack Tuchel or decide to stick with him...
@hnaku8748 Жыл бұрын
Chelsea fan here. I had very similar view. But I think contrary to their initial impression, the new regime found out late that Thomas was not actually suitable for their desired role, which is more than just coaching. And tried to grind it through while they came up with alternatives. The quickness of how the Potter deal got wrapped up suggests it was already brewing very early and they had plans in place. Sacking TT early in preseason would have been very bad PR, also there were many evident holes in squad which needed to be addressed in very less time no matter who the manager was. Also details now coming out that actually it wasn't completely TT's signing as many were led to believe. Maybe has more to it. Never know what actually happened behind scenes. One thing is for sure, the new regime certainly know how to do their PR game. I fell for it the whole preseason. This is the first stumble where some(including me) have went "hold on a minute...".
@sphamandlambambo9990 Жыл бұрын
@@hnaku8748 Great analysis but getting Potter without the hierarchy sorted is mistake. I feel he succeeded at Brighton because the top was also sorted out. I don't think the new director would prefer a chosen coach instead of chosing one.
@Yob365 Жыл бұрын
so wait until they dont qualify for the next round of champions league, and their 10+ points off top 4? becaue by the looks of it it was heading that way fast. they were/are playing terrible.
@rastaman7140 Жыл бұрын
@@1MichaelPohl7 they didn’t give TT a chance at all, you included somewhat on the signings and than fire him is not a good move. 5 games into the season 5 points off of first place at the time and one game into the CL was panic move.Potter plays similar football like TT. Potter won’t last more than two years if he doesn’t get out of the group stage or doesn’t win the europa league and doesn’t qualify for CL next season.
@rastaman7140 Жыл бұрын
@@1MichaelPohl7 arteta was given time, that’s time, TT only had one true xfer window and was fired when the xfer window closed.
@joebossendorfer4482 Жыл бұрын
I have no ill will towards TT but he wasn't improving players, you mentioned attackers looking to leave, yes along with Alonso, Rudiger, Emerson, Christensen and nearly Azpi too. What club can deal with losing that many 1st and 2nd starters along with Werner, Lukaku,, Ziyech wanting out. Again this is no witch hunt but that many players looking to leave points towards more than just a big dip in form. This was the right time. Good luck where ever you go TT.
@leogriev Жыл бұрын
Alonso wanted to go back to spain, rudiger wanted to stay but was not offered contract. Emerson was never good enough. Christensen alsonwanted to leave for new challenge, none were related to TT. Even werner wanted to leave because he was shit in England. Ziyech was for sale and no wanted him🤣.
@osemuihonre2380 Жыл бұрын
@@leogriev your story is so wrong, if everyone wants to leave, something is wrong somewhere, if you keep blaming all players then you are biased and from financial angle if you are the owner you won’t think like that
@leogriev Жыл бұрын
@@osemuihonre2380 Ahh right, its wrong because it doesnt fit with what you want to believe?
@mh9tv Жыл бұрын
This is how it should be.. free content. Dont know why you charge money for online subscription to your site, when i click on it and it asks for payment i just exit and go to another news outlet
@purehyperbole5727 Жыл бұрын
They are smug and deluded to think their take on everything is worth it. Dumb hipsters fall for it.
@dudleygillham5318 Жыл бұрын
Well said Simon Thompson!
@waterboys3001 Жыл бұрын
I would have assumed that Boehly's group bought this business for its successful management team, but they have fired them all. I would be worried if Boehly was investing my money. Tuchel wasn't a yes man and did not ingratiate themselves with the new owners. Was that the problem? Tuchel is a world-class manager and such people are often difficult to manage. Boehly knows nothing about football but obviously, he wants to interfere and needs somebody malleable to control. This reminds me of the Titanic.
@RedPanda450 Жыл бұрын
A bit dramatic lol. People usually want to install their own people.
@Xevvo Жыл бұрын
@@RedPanda450 This. It’s very common.
@jackzeldon2883 Жыл бұрын
That's my read too - Tuchel has massive responsibilities for a club that if you lose two in a row the fan base might murder you & this douche tiny Owner wants Tuchel to talk "Soccer" w/ him & play Academy youth who are Trash..... Potter will be eaten alive at Chelsea - go look at his record, Brighton was just as bad finishing, failed to pull out of long losing streaks..... If Potter fails & I have no doubt he will this fan base is going to turn on Boehly like something we have never seen before
@tomster95 Жыл бұрын
@@1MichaelPohl7 what boehly succes in sport exactly? His la dodgers era 2012 till now only won 1 world series Boehly and his consortiums only care for Brands not the sport. Like you said he buying global brand that his original goal not the sports. And speaking previous regime, Abramovich won 21 trophies during his 19 years ownership, can boehly do that???? with la dodgers record i would expect less
@tomster95 Жыл бұрын
@@1MichaelPohl7 8 division titles mean nothing buddy, lakers? Minority ownership doesnt count 😄😄 and he become lakers minority owner in 2021 anyway, which means by the time he got there lakers won nothing. So what success IN Sport booooohly got? Only 1 very2 sad. Could he be better owner than Abramovich, yes he could, but not in sporting sense, i believe he would generate more cash for shareholders, more troophies than abramovich? Nah he couldnt do it, base on his statement that he is not going to spend like abramovich, he is more like his us compatriot who own liverpool, which is less spending, more cash inflow,more internet content, doesnt care about titles, more jersey sales, and brands expansions Fans ? Doesnt care that much. Booohly buy chelsea only for expand the brands to satisfy shareholder values. His transfers windows activity are wreckless, his main appoinment more to generate incomes, he fired people who has knowledge and experienced in football. He fired coach and replace with coach who win nothing.So how come i expect Booooohly would be better than Abramovich??
@MixBetterNowTV Жыл бұрын
Chelsea fan here who LOVES Tommy Tuchel. Very sad and angry. HOWEVER, I like what Simon was saying about Bohley & Co wanting a long term gaffer who WILL give the youth a chance while making the senior stars better players. Trying to find a silver lining in this. I can honestly say I’ve LOVED watching Brighton play the past 6-8 months. Exciting, attacking, progressive. All we can do is support Potter. And as the Arsixnil crowd always say, “trust the process” 😛😚💙 #carefree #ktbffh #tuchel #potter #cfc
@absolutespoon2074 Жыл бұрын
Just confused that if they had these doubts about Tuchel, why go all in for his targets over the transfer window
@fififairuzfuyooo Жыл бұрын
The reason Tuchel work so well under Roman ownership was he gets to do exactly what he wanted which is coaching and Roman was always stern about not giving coach a say in regards to recruitment cos hes got Marina for that role. But now under Boehly maybe he wants the manager to be more involved in making those decisions which Tuchel dislikes to do as it distracted him from his work on the pitch, hence why I think we brought in Potter and and his backroom staffs which include head of recruitment. It's why I think the long-term contract is justified despite what anyone has to say about it.
@randomcon123 Жыл бұрын
It is hard to give youth a chance when two defeats later your job is on the line… it is not like Tuchel never gave youth a chance. He played Dagba at PSG, Pulisic at Dortmund, etc…
@absolutespoon2074 Жыл бұрын
@@randomcon123 gave Gallagher his debut
@randomcon123 Жыл бұрын
@@absolutespoon2074 umm he was already a premier league regular last season… so “gave Gallagher a debut” isn’t exactly much but okay… my point is he still gave chances to academy players when he can… but it’s hard to play them week in week out when you can be fired for two bad results
@angohtv5732 Жыл бұрын
The striking force apparently did not enjoy TTs tactics
@Yob365 Жыл бұрын
Ornstein: Lets not try and sensationalize the situation -------- 2 minutes later------- Ornstein: Thomas Tuchel carried Chelsea on his back all last year (Oh please give me a break)
@user-te1le7ck6b Жыл бұрын
Nothing new from David 🤦♂️
@invisiblechild2006 Жыл бұрын
Does David Ornstein not realize he's on camera while looking at his phone throughout the whole conversation? Disrespectful to say the least, if not to the audience then to his colleagues
@kevineakins5276 Жыл бұрын
It’s very easy to draw overly simple and facile conclusions from what has happened. Just because Chelsea have historically hired and fired managers based solely on results doesn’t mean to say that this is what’s happening now. Likewise just because Boehly has never owned a PL team before it doesn’t mean he’s going to make a mess of it. I’m fact many decisions seem to make perfect sense.
@chandamusonda4624 Жыл бұрын
Most logical comment I've seen today. People with emotional attachment to TT believe Boehly is a crazy guy with a lot of money. But if potter comes and makes a great success at the club then they'll all say they believed in him all along
@theodoreneer4781 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t make any sense for boehly to sign tuchels targets and then sack him weeks later Also if they care about youth why sell Gilmohr Also Boehly bid 50 mil for players like Anthony Gordon and Romeo lavia he’s nuts
@gdo3510 Жыл бұрын
@@theodoreneer4781 with the exception of Auba, and that’s even being charitable to your argument, name me one player that Chelsea signed that any manager wouldn’t want. It’s lazy to say these are Tuchel’s signings because you imply that they will only work under Tuchel, which is just dumb. And if you want to talk about young players, it was Tuchel that wanted to get rid of Gilmour, not Boehly. Plus, Boehly has gone and purchased some of the best youth players in the world, so I don’t know what you’re really talking about.
@hnaku8748 Жыл бұрын
I understand the decision, but still think the new regime miscalculated some things early on. If they had their research done well, they'd have well known what they were getting with Thomas Tuchel. A fantastic coach, who's just that. Not a sporting director or even an advisor like Ragnick and other figures. I excuse them as a Chelsea fan because they are new and learning as well. But ideally it could have been smoother than this abrupt sacking and pile of PR confusion. Hopefully things get better now. I agree with the hiring of Potter.
@harrygthang7389 Жыл бұрын
Boehly wants to change the system in Chelsea, similar to LA Dodgers. Dodgers is successful because the way the owner, the manager and the squad communicate is like we are one, we are all The LA Dodgers, collaborative style. It's a big difference than Abramovic, he cares about the club but communication between Abramovic and the manager is limited and less involved; he leaves it to the manager. Graham Potter, Tony Bloom and the Brighton squad atmosphere similar to the Dodgers, they are involved and collaborated. I think that's why Boehly wants Potter right away, after observing Graham Potter when Chelsea was negotiating a contract for Cucurella.
@estonian44 Жыл бұрын
about 15min video which would only need about 1"shorts" to get the info accross
@chadspro Жыл бұрын
Love this content guys.
@stevecloete7252 Жыл бұрын
Most managers would love to have more authority / say in recruitment. Tuchel has a coaching team to support him. They are as much to blame for the downward performance trend since end of last season. Tuchel did not have a plan to stop and fix the poor performances.
@newrecruit100 Жыл бұрын
There’s a difference between having a say and giving insight than having to be a very active in a specific role. That’s what Petr Cech was therefore. People really overlook the context of the inconsistency Chelsea have had this calendar year
@hnaku8748 Жыл бұрын
It isn't a five second work as many assume it to be. These are dedicated roles for a reason. And it was not only about recruitment of players, but also things like advice on who to bring on as director of football. That's a whole different thing to what most coaches train for. But that's the void Potter is seen as more capable of filling. It's a new structure/role. The 'holistic' approach as some are saying. Tuchel is still a fantastic coach, just a victim of circumstance. The sacking wasn't based on just results.
@bieberfrau6660 Жыл бұрын
Since so many coaches at Chelsea left, is it not time to look elsewhere?
@patrickk9539 Жыл бұрын
Tuchel was wasting a lot of talent out of his inability to take advice or listen to the players input besides his and his only, he was wasting talents like lukaku etc
@jc862 Жыл бұрын
i wish they wouldn't have sold Werner.... could have been great with a little more confidence
@BobDerGute84 Жыл бұрын
He has at least one thing going for him - the subtitle generation spells "Too Cool" when Simon says Tuchel. Edit: okay, his name apparently is Thomas Tucker when Adam speaks.
@ianr676 Жыл бұрын
Lets get over it, I thought Ancelotti sacking was a mistake but look what weve won since. Great signing of GP. TT has history of not getting on with owners ie Mainz Dortmund and PSG
@Carloss86py Жыл бұрын
On Mainz nothing happened. On Dortmund the issue was that their bus got bombed on the day they were gonna play the champions league match, and the match was postponed but the hier ups decided to accept a 24 or 48 hour postponement and Tuchel argued that his players were not in the correct mental state to play a game so soon after their bus being bombed (with them inside). PSG... Who hasn't have a problem with Leonardo?
@newrecruit100 Жыл бұрын
This narrative is played out. He got on well with Marina and Cech.
@seadkolasinac7220 Жыл бұрын
@@Carloss86py he's fallen out with owners a lot where others haven't. It's a pattern
@zirbto5749 Жыл бұрын
@@seadkolasinac7220 he hasn't fallen out with the fans at Dortmund or Mainz...
@pabis6817 Жыл бұрын
He’s 4/4 for his players not liking him.
@theintellectualsamurai7265 Жыл бұрын
Thinking about it. Just how many Chelsea signings were more Graham potters selections? Graham will have known this for a while. Mark cucurella is Graham potter’s number 1.
@henrydog9558 Жыл бұрын
I thank Thomas Tuchel for everything he has done for Chelsea, long reign Graham Potter.💙
@stevewelsh8560 Жыл бұрын
can't wait to see how he handles that fool Aubamayang and his antics.
@alexmuriuki2151 Жыл бұрын
😆😆😆😆😆🤣🤣
@BCE-111 Жыл бұрын
The new owners were looking for a collaborative manager which Tuchel really isn't and Potter is. They know how important this is. The LA Dodgers are by far the best team in baseball and it's not just this year. The whole organization thrives because of this collaboration. And they've seen this in other organizations like the LA Rams who just won the Super Bowl.
@aguifeanyi3572 Жыл бұрын
Collaborative in what aspect?
@AhmedBristolskiy Жыл бұрын
Submissive to the owners
@rastaman7140 Жыл бұрын
How many World Series have the dodgers win? I believe one?
@BCE-111 Жыл бұрын
@@rastaman7140 Actually they've won 7, but 1 lately, although it would have been 2 as the other team cheated. But no other teams have won more than 1 lately. Their team this year just won their division with 42 games left to go. No other team ever did that. They're 55 games over .500. And 6 games better than any other team in baseball and 10 better than the next team after that. My point was about how great the management is. They're doing what Todd is going to do. They hire the very best people for various jobs and then support them fully. That's how any sports team or business excels. A lot of people are already hating on Todd I think a lot because he's American. And also they fired TT. TT did great the first 50 matches of his tenure. But not that great the last 50. People love him because of the championships, which is understandable. But look at the play lately. Give Todd a chance and time to implement his vision. You'll love the long-term results. Actually, people should be thrilled he's the one who bought the team.
@rastaman7140 Жыл бұрын
@@BCE-111 under TB they have won one. And he the way he is operating is wrong and the team is not any good with the new manager who no experience in big competitions, did you see the lineup today? I’m assuming Potter is safe bc he collaborates with TB. Chelsea won’t be the same anymore.
@vesioh732 Жыл бұрын
wtf, you expect them to be having a karaoke party after losing or something
@andresluna351 Жыл бұрын
Naw, but u have insight as to what hay have happened. Complete silence, is a complete break down of a team
@SSS-ie6mh Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if Pulisic becomes a starter under Potter. USA owners sack coach who didn't want to start USA player. I smell a conspiracy.
@MixBetterNowTV Жыл бұрын
5 yr deal to Potter doesn’t give me Roman trigger happy vibes. Why give the guy a 5 yr deal if they weren’t looking to build long term? He’d had gotten a 2 yr contact. I also think Potter is the best English manager out there right now. Heart Attack FC changes owners, but my blood pressure remains the same 😐🤪💙
@boomslangCA Жыл бұрын
Potter probably wouldn't have moved for a 2 year contract. He wanted to move to a big club but he needed some sort of assurance he wasn't just a placeholder they could ditch at minimal expense. With 5 years they're showing their commitment.
@reignofcreed9878 Жыл бұрын
That's the thing, they offered him a 5 year contract for the long term. They have a plan and to them, Graham Potter is the person to lead Chelsea, they already had a lot of information on him even when Chelsea made an approach for Cucruella . He's not getting sacked even if Chelsea don't make the top 4, it's all part of the long term plan in their vision. Boehly has made a success out of the LA Dodgers and the LA Lakers and have a plan for Chelsea, some of you guys just don't see it yet
@rastaman7140 Жыл бұрын
@@reignofcreed9878 lakers haven’t won anything under TB who is a minority owner and the dodgers have only won 1 WS with all the money spent.
@rastaman7140 Жыл бұрын
@@reignofcreed9878 also contracts no mean anything anymore, I give him two years, most likely they will be In Europa league and if they win that and can’t qualify for CL the pressure is on.
@doubleeph8920 Жыл бұрын
It's all very sad to the honest. This Tuchel situation reminds me of Mourinho taking over at Chelsea the second time round and pushing Mata out. It was an extremely unpopular decision at the time but it ended up being the right one in the long term. Hopefully, Potter is able to silence the naysayers and be a success at the club for many years to come.
@hnaku8748 Жыл бұрын
If anything, most are saying Potter has earned the right to be in this role. And I agree as a Chelsea fan. Disappointed to see TT leave, specially so early in season. But I also realise it was something that had to be done. It could have been smoother for sure, but the owners are new too so we'll have to excuse a bit. Hopefully this is the start of an upward trajectory.
@viceversan1 Жыл бұрын
How was pushing mata out the right decision?
@doubleeph8920 Жыл бұрын
@@viceversan1 I don't believe it was although others may argue otherwise since Chelsea won the league title the season after.
@johnholkham2420 Жыл бұрын
I think Brighton though Potter would be offered the England job after the World Cup. The list of English managers in Premiership is not not long, Lampard and Gerard are not having much joy and Potter looked a shoe in. If he was offered the England manager Brighton would have to release him perhaps without the high level of compensation. That said it leaves Brighton with a huge hole in its coaching staff as other members will also leave. As 2 years is about as long as you get at Chelsea I would not be surprised to see Potter back at Brighton as he was the perfect fit for Brighton with its enterprising recruitment of young players
@ckromuluss11and89 Жыл бұрын
pulisic needs to be shown the door,he is not a top team striker,i feel he would do better in a midtable team where he is the main man
@joshbrown2217 Жыл бұрын
Simon Johnson actually chats such pure shite at time. Doesn't want to play young players? oh but he introduced Broja, Gallagher and Chalobah already (the youth to experience balance is already pretty steady, doubt potter will disrupt that) Players seeming sad after the Zagreb loss? obviously they probably got a bollocking for losing to the worst team in the group. Completely ignoring the fact that Tuchel went through a divorce, stress of holding the team together, having to manage the media and not having a summer off? Finding it weird that Tuchel doesn't want to be in charge of transfers, despite making it clear from the start that he doesn't want to be in charge of it. Not questioning that the ownership made a decsion based off football results, without a director of football, despite it being agreed that they have no knowledge of football or the english game Liam Towney is so much better when it comes to Chelsea news as he leaves his biases at the door.
@user-te1le7ck6b Жыл бұрын
Club pr puppet
@MrEieio44 Жыл бұрын
Tuchel to Brighton..
@gdl-watch7401 Жыл бұрын
Reading the "Welcome to Chelsea Graham Potter" has given me the worst feeling I have ever experienced within over 50 years supporting Chelsea!. Not just the what has happened in the last 24 hours but the how.
@Agtsmirnoff Жыл бұрын
Get therapy then.
@AM-uo1iq Жыл бұрын
@@Agtsmirnoff 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@nelsonenegbuma6033 Жыл бұрын
Potter is a downgrade no doubt
@pabis6817 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that is a really sheltered and good life if this is the worst feeling in 50 years. I don’t understand how many fans weren’t seeing the disaster that tuchel had become
@nelsonenegbuma6033 Жыл бұрын
@@pabis6817 so you think Potter can win the UCL, super cup and club world cup? Hahaha
@lobster4399 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t it part of the manager’s job/ mandate to dictate transfer? Tuchel not wanting to be part of this decision making is odd to me.
@hnaku8748 Жыл бұрын
It was not just that. His new role also required him to give input on other things such as whom to take on as sporting director. A role no coach trains for. He was very happy with Roman's structure where he felt he had the right support and input balance.
@Leo-eb1wl Жыл бұрын
Tuchel had lots of bad luck with injury but I find sometimes when you've been staring at a problem to solve for too long it becomes unsolvable and fresh eyes and ideas need to be brought in to figure it out, Like an old cold case that ends up being solved by new detectives years later going over the same evidence that led nowhere years prior. Not saying that Tuchel wouldn't have been able to eventually find a solution but I definitely felt we still had a ways to fall before any potential upside, and I really wasn't enjoying the style of football we were playing. If nothing else I hope Potter can play more attractive football that's a joy to watch win or lose. COYB up the bloody chels
@deathstarresident Жыл бұрын
Tuchel will find a club like Chelsea because he is an outstanding coach but Chelsea wouldn’t find a better coach than Tuchel. He is one of the best there is.
@anonymous-rj6ok Жыл бұрын
Imagine being the club owner having a coach who made a 100 million striker want to leave, getting loaned out and ending up with a team that has no striker and more players wanting to leave. No investor wants to see the capital (largely player value) get halved by the stubbornness of a coach. From a business perspective every other day under Tuchel the owner was starting to figure out he increasingly overpaid for the takeover.
@blackmagic1371 Жыл бұрын
The job of a football manager is fickle to say the least........he is & always will be a world class manager and he won’t be out of work for to long💯👍🏾⚽️
@samw4758 Жыл бұрын
Boehly I bet asked Tuchel to give Pulisic a run of games to see what they had. Tuchel then spit in his face and gave Ziyech the start and brought Pulisic in as wing back in second half. Nobody deserves a start but they were awful and Tuchel could of played Pulisic and I believe intentionally chose to stick it to Boehly. You can think whatever you want about Pulisic but business is business and we’re talking $100’s of millions with American audience coming up to World Cup. I’m not saying play him just for that but give him a couple games see what you got. And if nothing there loan him out or sell him.
@saraha2250 Жыл бұрын
Tt won’t try it under Roman
@tonymcintosh3480 Жыл бұрын
Well the recruitment did not work out to well for him when he told the septic tank he didn't want the Portuguese 'er yanks get upset
@amitabhshankar4940 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Thomas..
@veraw1221 Жыл бұрын
The whole thing is senseless to me and such a great manager blamed for for a few bad prefomances?? And hes replaced by graham pottrer from Brighton?? Iv got to be in some hideous nightmare ??? He could of turned this round then planned out his strat for the season ,,,,, terreble waste?? Our loss will inevitably be Man utds ,gain that wont hurt much will it?? DW NORFOLK U.K.
@UraFlight Жыл бұрын
I think the main reason of sacking Tuchel is Christian Pulisic and not signing Ronaldo. The media won’t tell us about it
@saraha2250 Жыл бұрын
All he had to do was play the kid since the others were not performing. Instead he started Ziyech who flew to Ajax for a move and brought on Pulisic for Wingback. That’s a slap in the owner’s face, he can’t try it to Roman.
@progpuss Жыл бұрын
Shame bcuz long term he would have been good , came across as nice passionate man
@chandamusonda4624 Жыл бұрын
Tuchel needed new coaching staff. He was completely lost on what to do tactics wise and players just didn't like his style of play.
@steevburgess2627 Жыл бұрын
TT's style made them champions of Europe and the World. What more do they want ?
@underthemud7315 Жыл бұрын
Poor owners looks like Chelsea gonna be a middle table team no more trophys while potter is in charge poor owner at Chelsea now with no clue
@phiwokuhleqwabe2097 Жыл бұрын
Cry harder
@UraFlight Жыл бұрын
Spot on mate ! I’m agree with you
@yasinlau5074 Жыл бұрын
The big issue here .it politics boehly wants to bring english coach so that he can be please FA and to removing all people of the former boss to conntrol the club easily
@jordandelurey8079 Жыл бұрын
How an elite coach got treated like that is beyond me especially with the state there in now.... Potter for tuchel is the biggest step. Down in history of football I would imagine
@jamesmilne8445 Жыл бұрын
Tuchel is suffering burnout
@vidhyutgadia4566 Жыл бұрын
sounds right :/ may he use the time well to relax and recharge.
@ellemarr7234 Жыл бұрын
Well, well, well
@Sandevistan2020 Жыл бұрын
Simon needs to get his points delivered way faster, man is digressing every each 2 sentences.
@shamilrasheed5071 Жыл бұрын
Tuchel sacking was wrong.
@Chris_lotsofnumbers Жыл бұрын
Incorrect
@paparucoontour Жыл бұрын
This Americans are going to run Chelsea to the ground
@gm_21 Жыл бұрын
This should have been known and now its inevitable...
@DiegoMartinez-or4sc Жыл бұрын
Lol what? Tuchel had a horrible start to the season. Humiliated in Europe. And lost the dressing room. Only shock about the sacking was Tuchel wasn’t given time after the transfer window. But the writing has been on the walls for months now starting back from last season.
@abiodunodeleye7984 Жыл бұрын
Americans are winners, period. They know business, money, etc. There’s no owner that’s a “football person”
@100sky3 Жыл бұрын
@@DiegoMartinez-or4sc Humiliated? 1-0???
@gm_21 Жыл бұрын
@@abiodunodeleye7984 Glazers, Kroenke, and currently FSG again.. Yup they know things alright.. 🙄
@akhilrawat3897 Жыл бұрын
2:18 he has done enough to earn one more season for sure
@stevemartin6192 Жыл бұрын
Ornstein bloody rude man
@blue-line-orbital514 Жыл бұрын
Here is another 1.26 min. version of the events to music: Out of the blue - Tuchel out! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eKefrK-r353Yn5s.html
@AB-lm9ww Жыл бұрын
The Athletic have been great!
@adityah82 Жыл бұрын
It is a very sad end to a brilliant Head Coach. Being a Chelse fan I would always have him on a pedestal for getting our second Champions League title. All said however I never found the team as a dominant team. Each match there was an uncertainty with the play. Never was there an assured performance where we dominated from the start. Somehow we would always have a hard fought 1-0 win or a later 2nd goal after 80 min. I saw Man City or Liverpool having an assured match which they dominated. Now we see Lukaku and Werner performing in other teams. Their opponents may be not strong enough but still they need to score. The gradual upgrade in play was absent in the manegerial career of Tuchel. He did a masterclass in his match with Conte recently. But that was it. The last high. Sad to see him go.
@freddy-fq2fp Жыл бұрын
The loss of Rudiger was huge..
@unrulyking67 Жыл бұрын
He was losing it so he added to go he's a very good coach but he loss it
@chandamusonda4624 Жыл бұрын
Had no plan to fix things
@randomcon123 Жыл бұрын
American owners… what could go wrong
@SGB-hq4dk Жыл бұрын
Lol these guys make it sound as though they know everything but get so many calls wrong & in truth don’t know much about how a football club works.
@raminybhatti5740 Жыл бұрын
The air of intellectualism on these specific types of channels gives them a sense of legitimacy (valid or not) when they speculate, compared to other channels and commentators who are a little less eloquent and professional.
@seadkolasinac7220 Жыл бұрын
they called Lampard's sacking before anyone else. Also Ornstein is one of, if not the most reliable out there for transfers. They're better than most journalists or the dreaded Twitter ITKs, so I think your comment is way too harsh
@mercedessl8718 Жыл бұрын
After his comments re Mendy I find it difficult to be sympathetic
@relax2234 Жыл бұрын
all just allegations, who knows for sure? From next week G. Potter will have to deliver, otherwise Mr. Poccetino will come .... The new management is poor, their recruitment also, that´s the truth.
@franciscomira2958 Жыл бұрын
So Tuchel just wanted to manage the team...he didn't care who came??? That's stupid from Tuchel if it's true.
@charliecampbell197 Жыл бұрын
Live by the sword die by the sword. New owner same old Chelsea.
@chaddevan3246 Жыл бұрын
Tuchel over paid Marc Cucurellla same as Lukaka last year, No players want to play for him after 1 to 2 years, unable to or don’t want to keep big payers like Rudiger and Christensen and let them go for free, I don’t think the club like any of those transactions, sold good player like Alfonso, sold or loan good players like Hudson Odoi, Tammy Abraham, bench good players like Pulisic, Zyetch…. Loosing or tied games to teams from MLS and in EPL like Everton, Leads,South Hampton and weak team in Champion league, He is a big club spender (over paid) Most player do not happy with him after over a year playing Him,
@SSS-ie6mh Жыл бұрын
If you're not gonna win anything, might as well do it playing Potter's beautiful football than Tuchel's boring football. On the other hand, Potter could possibly win something with a better squad than Brighton.
@tomclayton3445 Жыл бұрын
We need to root out the player power at Chelsea and I can assure you, potter will be a success! There are players who do think they are bigger than the club and hence when they want someone out, they make sure they get it done!
@edwardnyarondia3448 Жыл бұрын
Typical boogierization of TT like Chelsea has done to all managers
@CESR- Жыл бұрын
Chelsea owners now have 'yes' man they wanted but sacking TT has to be a 'sore wan' ffs! Fans will not be happy. ps Not a Chelsea fan 🙄 🍀
@rickylovesyou Жыл бұрын
Let's be honest, tuchel inherited a squad that had already been built and blooded by previous managers and staff. He inherits great teams or teams on the verge of greatness. He hasn't built or maintained one. He's clever but he isn't a level of manager that can build, maintain and control an entire club.
@talhaharoun5542 Жыл бұрын
With all due respect to Potter. This gives me avb vibes
@hnaku8748 Жыл бұрын
AVB won Europa treble with Porto before arriving. This is more like Sarri, just that Potter at least has Swedish Cup to his name.
@wbbartlett Жыл бұрын
The start of the slide back to their true level. Looking forward to seeing them v QPR in the Championship soon.
@cyranopinas4025 Жыл бұрын
Tuchel played most player out of position but has more than 2 player in one position
@yonisabrha8887 Жыл бұрын
That is the main reason for his failure players such as pulsic and zyach were not happy with their positions. He should have look back to their former club how they were playing and learn how to play him I think touchel is dictator who just stick to his mind if he a player doesnt play good where he puts in he has to bench him he doesn’t think twice why so players such as pulsic and zyach were stars at their former clubs there must be a reason for not performing at least half as before as a coach you got to think you paid a lot of money to get them but cos simply they don’t perform wheel as u wish and bench them is nonsense may be he got over stacked with players and have a lot of options. Too many players is not good for some players
@jamesbong4928 Жыл бұрын
Inside Tuchel's sacking is a couple of nuts - hopefully
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