Thank you. I've collected many devices over the years. Heaps more stories to come.

@@JanusCycle that sounds promising. I got myself over the years some old Sony Laptops and PDA, maybe I should also start tinkering again. You got me motivated!

@@jayforkay Nice, I do like a good PDA to mess about with. I hope to one day look closer at some Sony CLIÉ's :)

@@JanusCycle try to get a UX50! My unit died a few years ago but it was a really great device.

@@jayforkay I would love a UX50. I hope I can find one for a good price one day.

I suspected there was something getting stuck. It's great to hear and learn new terms such as interrupt storm. Thank you for that. I 'm really enjoying this learning process with Linux.

Or maybe the quirk switches the SDIO bus from SD to regular SPI mode and if the eMMC is also on the same bus... whoops!

systemd is also quite slow on low end devices. I was able to get Void Linux booting much faster than Raspberry Pi OS ever could on my Pi 3.

Your comment is very useful to me, because I'm always learning, and will be continuing to try and install Linux on this and other unusual devices. Thank you for the tip!

​​@@JanusCycle I would recommend an install of Alpine Linux. It's an extremely lightweight (in terms of ram useage) operating system that runs with maybe half the ram useage as a normal distro. GNOME uses 500-600MiB.

@@mikenotpike Not sure Alpine would be recommended; it comes with no DE installed & you have to set it up completely through the terminal while reading a lot of the wiki to get it working. However, I do kind of want to see it due to how small & lightweight it is

Thanks! I'm glad you are enjoying these adventures :)

Thanks. Windows 7 still has it all. Even in it's twilight years it keeps showing up for the fight.

Thank you, I still have much to learn. I'm currently installing Linux on another computer right now!

@@JanusCycle it's alright

I haven't seen anything about hacking that part. Thanks for watching and enjoying though :)

I think MacOS would be possible because I've seen Japanese references to it being done. I need to learn much more about Hackintoshing though. Windows XP seems to be the hardest of all and I'm not sure how to even start the installer yet.

​@@TyTytheCat2004 Hey. Have you tried something like this before? I have tried installing XP on this device for a while now and have not been able to. Setup always freezes on "Setup is inspecting your computer hardware configuration". But i be able to make it work, i think XP would run pretty well on this device, since windows 7 is to slow.

​@@DeimisDude I have not tried specifically on this phone, but I have used VMware to install OSes directly to hard disks, after figuring out which controller I need to emulate.

@@JanusCycle Can you link to the references?

Pushing those limits :)

​@@JanusCycle if you end up retrying skyrim, you can probably try ridiculous settings like i said in the comments

This is a really good point. RAM is very limiting for these sort of operating systems. I think they build phones to only last a few years. So they don't cost too much, and can buy the next one when they become obsolete. Also the Intel CPU in this phone was designed to only work with 1GB of RAM!

@@JanusCycle I did not know that. My Archos has 1 GB with the same CPU. Now I know why :( Since that computer is slow, I am using an Olivetti Philos 46 instead, picked up for 15 dollars from a local flea market. No battery, but mint condition, and working.

DRAM consumes power proportionate to capacity(rather than chip count). So skimping on RAM is one way to extend battery life a bit on top of marginal cost reduction.

Thank you. I have also been learning lots as I make these videos. It's great to share this experience with others.

@@JanusCycle you are welcome i am a fan of the channel

So would I. I have big plans. From a Hackintosh, to serious BIOS mods, to the forbidden Windows XP install. They all require lots more knowledge and ability that I'm still looking into gaining.

@@JanusCycle i’d love to see that! Also try games that shouldnt be able to run but put settings into miserable settings for it to get 5-10 fps and be sort of "playable".

I enjoy pushing hardware to it's limit to see how it handles. Sometimes it's fun to go way beyond them. Thanks for the tip on the Linux distro. I do want to try more Linux installs on older 32 bit hardware and Mint version 19 looks interesting.

@@JanusCycle I'd be super interested in how it handles other OS's for sure. Great video btw!

How do u set it back up if u delete it anyways?

Good suggestions. I'll be trying this out one day. Thanks.

Great explanation, thank you.

Here are some photos in the iアプリ/iAppli menu. I don't see any games. But some items won't open without a sim card. If there is something more you want to see let me know. drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qdmIgZhZnX10DrYs1jEGp8vJtd-ge8lW

Haiku OS looks interesting, thanks for the suggestion. I would like to try it.

while arch may run a bit better, it's far from the most user friendly. no offense to janus cycle but if he struggled to rotate the monitor, i think arch may prove impossible to use. a tweaked lubuntu install is the best choice for a beginner

he is planning to make a 3rd trilogy, but we gotta wait...

I really like this idea, I hadn't considered using the Starter version before, thanks.

Np 😊

that is very, very wrong. you must have been lucky enough not to use a cpu-bottlenecked system. but cpu performance is actually even more important than gpu, but in truth you need a balance as to avoid one component to bottleneck the other. a system with a slow cpu will not only run at a bad frame rate, but it will have more inconsistent and stuttery performance doing so. anyway, there are cases that even my 5800x3d limits my 6900xt, so you can bet a 1.2ghz mobile cpu that is a single core (i'm assuming) will limit gaming. skyrim is way out of this thing's league. you need to go back 10 years further to give it any chance to running a game in real time. morrowing ran decently with 1ghz cpus

@@GraveUypo That's weird, I had a laptop from 2006, and it'd always run games graphically fine at a decent 30fps, but the movement of entities and physics objects would always go in slow motion because the CPU just couldn't calculate it fast enough. I could see it in activity monitor and killing other processes that used cpu would always make the games a bit faster. It might be just a weird case I experienced but I have never seen a system get slow frames from a full cpu, not on mac and not on windows.

That's an interesting idea. I would like to try a cut down Windows 10 'Lite' version.

@@JanusCycle cant wait to see that

The fact a Intel/AMD smartphone wasn't attempted again is criminal, no need for dual CPU. AMD and Intel are more than capable of making chips that make this thing look like a vacuum tube computer and don't get as hot. I get the feeling that ultra low TDP CPUs from these PC companies are an afterthought, but they're much more capable for mobile duty than stuff from the 2010s. Why use Android when there's mobile Linux? Will admit, it's rough and can't make it out of beta. But that's because there's not much interest, presumably a gaming focused AMD/Intel smartphone would sell people on both mobile Linux and PC phones. Handheld PC sales keep going up, why not do a smartphone? And if you want to stick with Windows because you have a "EwW LiNuX" mindset then suit yourself. Hear me out first though, mobile Linux developers are trying to create an OS that has a mobile UI and a desktop UI that can easily switch modes as needed. SteamOS is Linux and there's not too many complaints about game compatibility if you primarily play single player games on your Steam Deck, the Proton compatibility layer needs game developers to allow their anti cheat software on their multiplayer games to play nicely with it. Valve has gotten some studios to do this, if people keep buying Steam Decks (and Steam Phones if they ever become real) Proton will only keep improving.

I do believe it's a Powervr GPU, which is unfortunate.

Actually graphics acceleration works normally but rotating the display breaks both the touchscreen and acceleration (see last vid)

I've always wanted to try Windows 8.1. I do need a break from this phone. But it will be a future project.

@@JanusCycle part 2?

Bethesda already getting ready to port to this thing after finding out exists.

It's still going well. I would like to make more video's featuring it.

These are all great suggestions. It's that darn eMMC drive that is holding me back from trying anything too different. I would like to try things like Android-x86 on other devices first.

So wait. What other kind of hard drive works on it, M2, SSD? Which also makes me wonder if the real max ram is 2gb. You know after it's not being sold they stop doing reports on what it'll take, like the samsung split qwerty touchscreen umpc could take 2gb's of ram but it's only reported as 1gb of ram known to be supported.

A great suggestion, this will be good to try in a future video.

Thanks for that suggestion. I do want to get back into this phone in a future video.

Note that i'm an 8 year old. Really ! Who's diving into technical linux stuff

@@jagannathfuji2493 Keep learning, it's fun!

If you have any tiny issues tell me in KZfaq comments. My pc : AMD Processor with Radeon graphics and 29G of ram and a very expensive monitor.

I enjoy reading comments on older videos. I do want to try with this phone again. But I had a bad experience with Tiny 11 on my VAIO. I hope Tiny 10 is better in 1GB ram.

​@@JanusCycle it is, someone even managed to get it to boot up with 128 mb of ram (you can probably guess it was with pagefile and beyond slow, but it worked!).

Probably the best place is to keep watching your favourite Japan Yahoo auction proxy site. These phones sometimes come with the dock

Yeah, maybe something like windows 10 1807 or even 1607

I would like to try more OSs on here. Thanks for those suggestions.

I'm running Tiny 11 ARM on my 950XL and it's better. There are a couple of Linux ports, but they are very incomplete and not well supported.

​@@JanusCycle i wonder if someone will port windows xp to it

Yeah thats something he should try

XP is very hard to run from an eMMC based hard drive. I have tried and failed and still don't have a solution. Windows 8/8.1 should be quite possible though. I do think there is still value in running x86 versions of primarily ARM based OSs. Android x86 for example would be fun to try :) Also be sure to see the video when I ran MS-DOS in real mode on this phone! If you need help getting yours working then let me know. I've learned quite a few of this phones quirks.

ok here i am

Yeah but 32 bit android x86 and try regular android 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I'm terrified of bricking the BIOS. But one day I will try editing it regardless.

@@JanusCycle Also did u find a bios file for the original one?

Why Yes! I was able to run Doom on this in the real mode MS-DOS video :)

Sort of. It has an arm cpu for the phone part, and an x86 cpu for the computer part.

Interesting game, it might just run.

@@JanusCycle try the 2008-2011 pc version. (the way the date is like that is because it was released in separate chapters. 5 was around 2010 and the 2011 one is an extra chapter)

The phone initially starts up with a Symbian variant before switching to x86 mode. I may have reset Symbian at some point during the install experiments.

@@JanusCycle Could you switch it back to English

@@Windows11COLLABVM Yes, I have since then using the English manual to find the language menu.

:) check the Real Mode MD-DOS video for doom on here

@@JanusCycle microdoft

The CPU itself is maxed out at 1gb, it can't allocate 2gb

@@jaykoerner aww too bad.

Doom: has alerady been run Crysis: interessting idea.

Nice, I like it.