Handheld VAIO Retro Modded with XP Tablet Edition

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5 жыл бұрын

Doing a teardown of the Sony Vaio U71P ultra micro PC from 2004. Replacing the hard drive with a modded compact flash card to act a a solid state drive. Then installing Windows XP Tablet Edition onto the now bootable fixed disk compact flash card. Having a quick look around the Tablet Edition of Windows XP.
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@raxpyraxp 7 ай бұрын

This is impressive how it's all packed in such a tiny device. I mean, look at the CPU. It's freakin' huge for this tablet

@gianlucaalgaler6811 3 ай бұрын

I have one😢

@narutosingh5239 4 ай бұрын

5 years before iPad, iPhone we had these. Tablet PC and Palmtop PC with calling. 😁

@jackkraken3888 2 жыл бұрын

For anyone interested, that Microoft Ink Art program looks suspiciously like an art program called Artrage, I guess in common Microsoft fashion they basically licensed out the software from the developer instead of making their own.

@25C-lb4mt Жыл бұрын

True

@Saddletramp1200 Жыл бұрын

Uncle Billy is a thief... Geo Works would have been the software but they wouldn't let anyone develop anything for the program. Trillion $ mistake.

@TheRealDorran Жыл бұрын

its Microsoft

@pindvs Жыл бұрын

it was like that with fresh paint on windows 8

@BladeRunner21577 Жыл бұрын

Yeah because its a bad thing that Microsoft do. They see somebody elses software that works really well and they go off and pay the guys who made it and bundle it into an OS that will sell millions of copies. Meaning the creators get paid much much more money than they ever would have if they had just tried to sell it on their own because they are little nobodies after all.

@TalonPro Жыл бұрын

Dude, you deserve 100,000 X more subs.

@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын

Hey thanks, I'll keep making good videos and we'll see what happens.

@Unicorn7_ Жыл бұрын

That's not enough, he deserves x10,000,000 subs.

@tredecim881 Жыл бұрын

more like a million more subs

@tredecim881 Жыл бұрын

@@Unicorn7_ damn, youre right

@TalonPro Жыл бұрын

@@tredecim881you do understand how math works, correct?

@aaravamitabhmishra8675 Жыл бұрын

Looks like Game and Watch. Nice product ever

@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын

I agree, that's why I'm trying to run Game & Watch games on it.

@alastairpreece6908 5 жыл бұрын

I've never seen on of these before, fascinating. It might be an idea to add chapters for the video in the description especially with longer vids.

@ES457 Жыл бұрын

17:47 so fast that even the Blue bars didnt get any time to come out

@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын

XP on SSD :)

@smarttseluvka Жыл бұрын

This is the most adapters I’ve seen in one video

@MuhammadAwais-cj9bz Жыл бұрын

Nostalgia ✨ beauty of your videos

@thisislilraskal Жыл бұрын

just quietly bingeing the channel

@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын

I'll just quietly say thanks :)

@bramvandenbroeck5060 Жыл бұрын

For computers that boot from usb floppy (or any pc using floppy offcourse) you can use plop bootloader, which, once booted, gives you the option to boot from whatever you want, even if marsians would've hosted an xp install somewhere in the cloud, even that can be booted :p And xp can be activated over the phone, when you dial that free number, in the menu, instead of choosing 1 to activate windows, choose option 3 and off you go, you can fully activate windows xp in 2023!

@sphenops_ 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video.I tought it was a vide of a guy with 100k subs.Its a shame though that you are only at 100s good quality keep it up!

@jackkraken3888 2 жыл бұрын

Very cool. I remember reading about these in magazines years ago. I think they still hold a place in many people's hearts even though the GUI wasn't nearly usable as a modern smartphone or tablet. There also other special software for XP Tablet edition such as the experience pack and the Powertoys for Tablet Edition. Maybe worth checking out?

@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, the experience pack looks interesting. I really like XP Tablet and I'm keen to get back into it sometime.

@RowanBird779 Жыл бұрын

I kinda wish modern UMPCs existed, like lower-end AMD APU in a tiny computer, I would probably use something like that since I can't carry a laptop with me everywhere but a smartphone is a bit too limiting for me. EDIT: I think I just described the Steam Deck...

@jackkraken3888 Жыл бұрын

@@RowanBird779 And while I love the concept too, but I can't really find a good reason too when we could probably get by with a 7 ish inch Android with a built in keyboard. Android is pretty mature now so the only other issues I see is from niche software and IO ports.

@RowanBird779 Жыл бұрын

@@jackkraken3888 That's fair, to me though having x86 support is kind of important since I use virtual machines and video editing software pretty often

@adameichler Жыл бұрын

@@RowanBird779 or GPD Pocket/GPD MicroPC.

@sadev101 5 ай бұрын

awesome lil device... and as usual your video is fabulous

@JanusCycle 5 ай бұрын

Thank you, and hopefully these videos are also getting better over time.

@OkamiiSenpai Жыл бұрын

First time I've seen someone use a box cutter in place of a plastic spudger

@enigmamyth Жыл бұрын

Keep grinding, hope the KZfaq algorithm picks it up quick. You deserve more subs.

@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын

As long as I make video that you enjoy, I'm sure things will work out in the long run. Thanks!

@DonvW Жыл бұрын

I remember back in 2008 when I had a Toshiba M200 tablet PC and needed to reinstall Windows that I had to use TFTP/PXE to boot it from any external source... I only found an image for Windows Vista, which the laptop could barely handle graphically, but I felt very accomplished afterwards

@quitted477 Жыл бұрын

For real a upgrade makes it feel fresh and new

@i_hate_google_ Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't you like to upgrade it to a proper ssd and upgrade the ram and I think you can do the same for the cpu ???

@Old_Dean-78 Жыл бұрын

Oh man, that was a highlight back then, where you only had to open a flap to change the RAM or the hard drive.

@Jackpkmn Жыл бұрын

If you run into a stubborn computer like this that won't boot off USB or USB CD drives you can use something called plop boot manager to make it boot off those things. You can even boot computers off USB that don't have native USB at all like early Pentium era machines it's pretty great tool to have on floppy.

@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын

I would like to learn more about plop. Some of these early machines are a real struggle to externally boot.

@DangerousPictures Жыл бұрын

@@JanusCycle plop is really awesome. I Can't count the times it helped me boot stubborn laptops

@f1ggyc 3 жыл бұрын

That Microsoft "Ink Art" is a rebrand of ArtRage 2 lol, the same program was bundled with my Wacom in 2010 or so I recognise it

@Mr.WahidProduction Жыл бұрын

That thing was way ahead of time

@snowball3396 Жыл бұрын

Dude your channel is so underated..keep ot up brother..new sub from me..love from sri lanka.. 🇱🇰

@hotmailcompany52 Жыл бұрын

brings back memories of my dads really early 2 in 1 convertible tablet laptop computer. it was super fat lol

@enilenis Жыл бұрын

I put this CF adaptor into all of my laptops from the era. There are even ones that allow dual CF cards and if the BIOS can talk to it properly, it sees both cards as 2 connected PATA hard drives. Some laptops will not see that type of adapter outright and a single CF card to mini hard drive connector is the best option, for guaranteed compatibility. I also tried CF adapter to try and get a Roland MC-80 internal hard drive replaced, but the sequencer refused. It might be hard-coded to only accept a selected list of hard drives, and won't be able to get spoofed with a flash card.

@BladeRunner21577 Жыл бұрын

Yeah its this guys adapters that is making the job twice as hard as it needs to be because he is trying to cheap out

@ToniMorton Жыл бұрын

protip Janus you can still activate WINXP on their phone activation system using the key the OS gives you.

@Psythik Жыл бұрын

Video ended too soon. Where are the benchmarks? And I wanted to see you try some games on this thing!

@no0nabaka Жыл бұрын

Oh, poor Vaio was working without a back cover while you were installing the operating system. On this computer, the back cover is a heatsink. Pentium M are excellent processors, in my opinion. because Vaio survived this violence. Thanks for the video, it was really interesting. I subscribed to your channel^^

@jugandoclasicos Жыл бұрын

If these devices had been on sale these days they would have more sales than those junk Android tablets.

@Lampe2020 Жыл бұрын

You can still activate WinXP using the phone activation service as that seems to be up still.

@dantan205gaming2 Жыл бұрын

free windows license key lets goo

@frstwhsprs Жыл бұрын

18:52 I think you can still call for activation, surprisingly, despite the end of support

@bhasitl Жыл бұрын

Have you tried pressing F10 to see if you can boot the VAIO Recovery Utility if the Recovery Partition is still there ?

@DTS__ Жыл бұрын

I love this generation of technology from a few years ago. It was all so creative and unusual, compared to modern apple style tech.

@ireallydontknowifiamhonest Жыл бұрын

Apple is sadly leading the future with their "innovative" vision and the "confident" designs, every company wants a piece of that Apple Pie, even they had more unusual stuff back in the day in likeliness of other companies, those were so cool

@echonomad94 9 ай бұрын

Mine is coming in the mail.

@JanusCycle 9 ай бұрын

Nice, I hope it goes well, these are great.

@echonomad94 9 ай бұрын

@@JanusCycle it should come tomorrow.

@echonomad94 9 ай бұрын

@@JanusCyclewhich one is the mouse joystick? I know where it is on my VAIO UX, but not on this!

@johnbillings5260 Жыл бұрын

Wish I had one!

@Nanoha3972 Жыл бұрын

Just out of curiosity, do you know of a source for replacement rubber stick covers for these?

@andrasszabo7386 Жыл бұрын

I have an old, small Acer laptop that needs Tablet Edition to use the provided WACOM pen.

@nooname88 Жыл бұрын

Long time no seen zune desktop theme 🥰

@memriloc Жыл бұрын

Haha, quick glance at the thumbnail and I thought it was a game and watch 😊

@antontansu 5 жыл бұрын

Do the Rotate and Zoom button work once you finish with the installation? Would you happen to have copies of the utilities/software (not the drivers) from Sony? Any chance you could share it here? Thanks!

@JanusCycle 5 жыл бұрын

The utility we need is called 'Special Button Utility'. I have asked someone for a copy and I will let you know when that happens.

@luisalbertovalleramirez9577 2 жыл бұрын

@@JanusCycle Hello Janus, do you were able to make it work? I am in the same boat with my Vaio U50. Thanks!

@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын

@@luisalbertovalleramirez9577 I did get some new driver packs a few months ago. But I haven't tried them. Because I've been working on other projects. Here they are if you want to try and let me know drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qcs0f63zPy5c3MjZ4_VQr5JDjj_s0lo-

@EngQuielLopes Жыл бұрын

KZfaq indicated my video through its

@lezoriq 2 жыл бұрын

Did you manage to get all the extra buttons working? Just got mine in mint condition with the box and all the extras but it comes with Japanese windows... I wonder if I should reinstall it.

@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын

I didn't get the extra buttons working. I have a huge archive of VAIO drivers and might have the correct application. But they are not named or sorted well. Definitely back up that hard drive. The critical software such as the Special Button Utility should be able to be extracted from Japanese Windows and installed on another Windows install. If you extract the drivers and application, I could try them on mine.

@lezoriq 2 жыл бұрын

@@JanusCycle i'm sorry for asking a stupid question but how do I extract such things? I will gladly do that and send you the files if you tell me how. Regards

@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын

There are no stupid questions when learning. You can use software such as Double Driver to backup drivers. m.majorgeeks.com/files/details/double_driver.html The Sony applications are in the C:/Program Files folder. You might be able to copy these folders and get them to work on another install. There is some software than might help, but I’ll need to find the name for you. Let me know if you need more help.

@MrBAlllON Жыл бұрын

Cool device🙃

@podlinux 3 жыл бұрын

You didn't compressed air the fan in there???! and you need one of those thin metal spudgers.

@Nick_1779 Жыл бұрын

Perfect channel with good vids, i recommending to grab better mic.

@metallurgico Жыл бұрын

i love these retro videos!!!

@patricks5686 Жыл бұрын

A Game and Watch XP :D

@AuntyM66 Жыл бұрын

I just thought of something , what about the O2 joggler running linux or raspberry pie.

@wattlefox Жыл бұрын

great video mate, keep up the great work

@dronszell Жыл бұрын

Definitely subscribe material

@TheButtercool 5 жыл бұрын

Where did you get the install for Windows XP Tablet PC Edition?

@JanusCycle 5 жыл бұрын

There is a backup of the iso on archive.org archive.org/details/all_windows_dvd The trick is to use your Tablet XP serial key. If you use a standard XP key then the Tablet components will not install from the ISO and it will be standard XP.

@sadev101 5 ай бұрын

wouldnt the cf card be slower? or am i mistaken?

@JanusCycle 5 ай бұрын

You could be right. There seems to be a majority opinion that the SD card to IDE adapter is slower than the drive it replaced in a different video. Giving some disadvantage to the benefits of an SD and CF SSDs. This will make a good video segment comparing HD, SD and CF speeds next time I do a drive replacement in a vintage machine.

@foch3 Жыл бұрын

You are the adapter master!

@nokiaforever1363 Жыл бұрын

Oh wow

@g.adrian2369 2 жыл бұрын

I got one boxed for 69 dollar 💲 and i replace thermal paste with artic mx-5 and hdd with ssd 32 GB, battery still holding :D and easy for me to install windows xp with my vaio x505, share same chipset and cpu, to complicated for me to try this :)) and i found drivers and apps from arhive.

@JanusCycle 2 жыл бұрын

Great score, well done. I hope you enjoy it. Were you able to get all the special buttons working?

@MasterH2005 Жыл бұрын

I would love to get my hands on one of those, but they’re so hard to find. Does anyone know a site to get that mini PC?

@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын

Apart from watching eBay for months, searching the different model numbers u50, u70, u71p, u8p until something good appears. You could try searching Yahoo Japan Auctions. Or outside Japan a proxy service for Yahoo Japan Auctions. Mine was cheap because it didn't come with recovery discs, the extra front buttons still don't work without the right software. I still have not found Sony's 'Special Button Utility' for any of these models online. I still love owning this thing :)

@MasterH2005 Жыл бұрын

@@JanusCycle I’ve searched Yahoo Japan auctions, and for some reason, nothing came up. I’ve also tried eBay, but the prices are way too much for me to afford. I wish there was some sort of vintage tech site that sells them for a more reasonable price. I get it that those things are rare to find, but there should at least be a site that sells them for a more reasonable price. I too am a big fan of old tech, so I’m trying to find one that’s not so big and bulky… like a Toshiba libretto.

@kudryavchik Жыл бұрын

@@JanusCycle I have all the drivers, if you need. I have 4 U. One U50 totally new and fully factory packaged for about 1000 bucks, U50 used, U70 used and U71p used (with full box).

@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын

@@kudryavchik Yes please! I would love a proper set of drivers and applications/install CDs for the u71p. Your collection sounds impressive. I'm completely intrigued and would love to know more. I would also like to make another U video soon.

@kudryavchik Жыл бұрын

@@JanusCycle My collection is: 1. Sony VAiO U. 4 units. One U50 completely new in factory package (never used after production, was stored in warehouse in Japan). One more U50, U70 and U71p (full box) 2. Sony VAIO UX. 4 units. 2 UX1XRN (one almost new), 1 UX280p with modification (64 GB SLC SSD), 1 UX91NS - japanese blue model 3. Sony VAIO C1MHP 4. Sony CLiE NZ-90. Bought new in 2003. Heavily used)) 5. Toshiba Libretto 50CT (with PATA enterprise SSD) 6. IBM Thinkpad 560Z. Modified with P2 400 MHZ, Pata enterprise SSD and 192MB RAM 7. HP Jornada 720 8. Nokia N-GAGE. bought new in 2003 9. Casio Cassiopeia FIVA MPC-501. Totally new, old stock 10. etc

@wiwingmargahayu6831 Жыл бұрын

happy ramadhan fasting

@fifaworldcup1994 Жыл бұрын

TIL there was a way to load the Windows XP setup with floppies

@williamorangeofjuice7804 Жыл бұрын

Plop boot loader for usb boot?

@Vishes_Global Жыл бұрын

Bro just got a job in NASA

@bariltrailette Жыл бұрын

100 MHz upgrade it is really a difference?

@Ventrux Жыл бұрын

You know. I have one of my own with the full Vaio software, I can make a copy for you if you want.

@suli2310 Жыл бұрын

hows the battery holding? 21:07

@greygoose3936 5 жыл бұрын

Did you end up figuring out how to bypass the windows activation? xD

@JanusCycle 5 жыл бұрын

I asked the Microsoft support virtual assistant which said it's not possible, then directed me to the support forums where I found a post from last week indicating that the XP activation servers are still online in 2019. answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/why-is-there-so-much-confusion-about-the-current/439e2764-81fb-40d2-9e6a-f9e8ddbd4116 This requires Service Pack 3 and I'm running XP Tablet SP2 though which makes this method a deal breaker for me. I have two weeks to go and I may end up editing the registry entry to bypass the WPAEvents timer in the name of retro history preservation.

@Maxim_Borusa 4 жыл бұрын

Hello. please tell me how reliable CF is as an SSD? How good is cf to use every day? how fast cf will break when used every day?

@JanusCycle 4 жыл бұрын

In my experience I used a compact flash card as an SSD every day for over six years without any problems. That old VAIO is still working today though I don’t use it much anymore. Also check the next video with the Fujitsu upgrade for an alternative SSD method that also works when replacing these ZIF hard drives.

@Maxim_Borusa 4 жыл бұрын

@@JanusCycle Thank you very much for your response. I love Sony vaio and collect them. I consider them good laptops, but I like to do good things even better:)

@JanusCycle 4 жыл бұрын

@@Maxim_Borusa You are welcome. Please feel free to ask more questions or just to let me know how your VAIOs are going. I like hearing about VAIOs being fixed or improved and the favorite models people like to collect, if you wish to share. I have a few more VAIO models myself that I am fixing and hope to make videos about one day. Including the C1 Picturebook which I believe was the world's first laptop with a built in webcam.

@19AKANE92 Жыл бұрын

how many adapters you can use ?.... YES!

@JessicaFEREM Жыл бұрын

the on screen keyboard showing up on the login screen for no reason is still a problem with windows

@Dtr146 Жыл бұрын

Seeing the port for the charger on that device aggravates me. Because that is a similar design to what Lenovo used to use. There's like several laptop makers that share the same port across the years. Acer sharer toshiba's connector there for a while Dell shared HPs but had a third cable to tell that it was a Dell charger, Lenovo and apparently Sony used the same plug. But I do know a couple of laptop manufacturers use the same plug but reverse the goddamn polarity. Fuck those companies. It made buying aftermarket chargers a pain in the ass

@Dtr146 Жыл бұрын

Oh I forgot. Dell still sometimes shares the HP plug. But they still have that third wire in it to wear if you use an HP on a Dell it throws a error message and doesn't charge the battery. But if you use a Dell charger on an HP laptop it works just fine.

@duplicake4054 Жыл бұрын

Can you th windows 8.1 on it? (Use registry to bypass restrictions)

@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын

I had a look at doing this. Windows 8 requires CPUs with PAE and No eXecution features that this VAIOs CPU doesn't have. There is a way to bypass this and get Windows 8 running on this CPU though. It's worth trying sometime.

@SOTP. Жыл бұрын

@@JanusCycle if you force pae and bypass noexecute it should work

@LDTV22OfficialChannel Жыл бұрын

Subbed.

@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын

awesome!

@sadev101 5 ай бұрын

ink art .3 looks a lot like yhe modern art rage app

@CocaColaZeroZuckerAllCrapAreBe Жыл бұрын

Ich kann kein Englisch, bzw nur sehr schlecht... Kann es sein, dass das Dock den selben Anschluss hat, wie die PS-Vita? Kann man eine PC-Vita draufstecken und am CRT oder so spielen?

@donglelife2299 Жыл бұрын

Dongle Madness :D

@adameichler Жыл бұрын

There might be workaround for installing Windows for such devices. You can boot Plop Boot Manager from floppy disk and from that you can boot other installer from USB.

@dragostutealca8201 9 ай бұрын

🎉🎉🎉🎉

@MannyDeGuzmanJr Жыл бұрын

It looks like a Nintendo Game and Watch.

@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I have also though the same thing. One day I'm going to run some Game and Watch simulators on this and make a huge Game and Watch.

@berathortum Жыл бұрын

wow,

@krzysiek_2137 Жыл бұрын

You can activate every version of windows using phone activation.

@iSamYTBackup Жыл бұрын

the same upgrade works on 4th gen ipods

@angelking07 Жыл бұрын

How many adapters you have 😂😱

@marcinxsinski 2 жыл бұрын

Wow you do clevel😀

@hendrikerasmus4026 Жыл бұрын

use plop boot manager from floppy then you can try to boot to cdrom from plop wich would be on the floppy

@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately Plop doesn't support booting from secondary USB CD/DVD drives, only IDE. I have found the 'correct' way to boot this recently, new video coming shortly.

@jessicasandy5188 Жыл бұрын

How r u bro?

@iulianispas8634 Жыл бұрын

Upgrade from 30Gb to 8 so slow after those adapters

@garyproffitt5941 Жыл бұрын

What's going on and I'll bet it's a digital clock 😉👍

@celebrityrog Жыл бұрын

I have never been so bored yet so interested in something that is so completely worthless, old, obsolete, outdated and extremely difficult to modernize. I cant stop watching it's so entertaining. It's also amazing someone knows how to get old stuff working again.

@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching me mess about with retro gear :)

@foxyfan1336 Жыл бұрын

i want one

@user-ku3vs1gw8v 2 жыл бұрын

Wow is windows xp

@Puro9992 Жыл бұрын

2:06 So this portable PC will turn into a normal PC

@BladeRunner21577 Жыл бұрын

You could always deply XP to the hard disk rather than install it

@JanusCycle Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure how to do that. Windows XP can be picky about where it's installed from.

@BladeRunner21577 Жыл бұрын

@@JanusCycle Is it possible to use an adapter and cable... The hard disk interface is IDE so should support 2 drives on it. Did you try that?

@BladeRunner21577 Жыл бұрын

@@JanusCycle There is another tool called SaPrep that removes the HID portions to make servers headless, but it can be used for other things to do with what you want to do too if you want.

@BladeRunner21577 Жыл бұрын

@@JanusCycle Did you get hold of a Windows XP OPK CD? You will need SysPrep from that to install XP just like Sony did to get the OS on the machine when they built it. Or did you think Sony installed Windows onto every machine they build :)