Intel Macs Are Getting Cheaper - Should You Buy One - With Price Examples

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Craig Neidel

Craig Neidel

2 ай бұрын

Apple's Intel Macs are getting cheaper every single day due to the success of the M1, M2, and M3 chips. With Intel Macs so cheap should you actually buy one. In this video we discuss weather Intel Macs are still a good option and show you real-world examples of Intel Mac pricing in 2024 to see what is out there. If you have a smaller budget but still want MacOS are Intel Macs the way to go? Let's discuss.
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@mikejeter8008
@mikejeter8008 Ай бұрын
I just bought a 2015 15” MacBook Pro with 16 gb ram and 512gb SSD, running Ventura with Open Core. Screen is perfect, it’s my new travel laptop for web maintenance. $120.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel Ай бұрын
Nice for the money. Yes, they are good travel laptops for sure.
@bryans8656
@bryans8656 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Craig, that iMac would be a great option for folks on a budget. My last Intel Mac desktop was the 2018 Mac mini. It was an excellent device and had the one feature I really miss with the M chips, the ability to run Boot Camp. I just checked eBay and it looks like the price starts at ~$300US.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Yes, that is a nice iMac. Wow, $300 that is a crazy price. There are some deals out there for sure.
@diotitus
@diotitus 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your insights Craig. I saw one of your older videos talking about an iMac and MacBook Air combination. I wanted to ask you what you personally would think of a desktop/laptop combination of a Windows desktop PC and MacBook to get the best of both worlds, and if they could work reasonably well together.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
If you want or need Windows that is perfect. Just get what works best for your workflow. I always have a Win machine also for various tasks.
@d.r.martin6301
@d.r.martin6301 2 ай бұрын
My wife just got an M1 Air (and loves it). But I didn't want to drop a grand or so on a new Mini with 4k monitor so soon after. So I'm sticking with my 2017 Retina iMac. I've upgraded it to Ventura, to a 1T SSD, added 16 gig of memory for a total of 20, updated a bunch of apps. All for about $300. So yeah, an Intel Mac of a certain vintage should do you fine for at least a couple more years.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Yes, they do get the job done for sure. Being a Mac channel I buy a bunch of Macs but only because of that. Otherwise I would use them for many years.
@garrykanter5773
@garrykanter5773 2 ай бұрын
I love the 27" iMacs. I wouldn't go earlier than 2020 (maybe 2019), though, for the longest OS support.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Yes, unless you use Open Core etc. But the 2020 is a great machine.
@garrykanter5773
@garrykanter5773 2 ай бұрын
@@craigneidelI've reached the point where I'm not messing around with the stuff anymore. They know what they're doing better than I could ever know. So, if I can delay what I define as obsolescence for a couple years, when I'm buying used equipment (and still get that great 5k screen)...
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Yes, it's nice to not have to install the extra software for sure. I hear you on that.
@digitalmarketinghumans
@digitalmarketinghumans 2 ай бұрын
Using my 2020 iMac i7 5700xt 64gb ram, it's a BEAST! I also have the M1 Pro as. a laptop and let me tell you, it doesn't miss a step in regards to the comparison to the M1 Pro. The GPU 5700xt is also better than the gpu on the M1 Pro.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Yes, some of the older ones do have the larger GPUs. Battery life suffers but they are still good for quite a bit.
@budgetkeyboardist
@budgetkeyboardist 2 ай бұрын
Patchers are not always 100% compliant. I've had mixed results with them. Another factor to consider is that the latest Chrome requires at least OS 10.15, and you can have issues with KZfaq on operating systems earlier than that. So I'd suggest not buying a Mac that can't run at least 10.15. Another bit of advice - the MacBook Pro line from 2016 through 2018 had issues with the keyboard, but the MacBook Air models of the same year had no keyboard issues. All of that said, I'm a fan of older Macs - I'm watching this on a 2012 Mac Mini connected to my TV right now.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Yes, the keyboard issue was real but any Mac surviving this long most likely should be good for a little while more. I have not had any issues with Open Core if you are using that one as long as you confirm it's on the supported list first. Thanks for sharing and watching.
@Berean9999
@Berean9999 2 ай бұрын
I bought a 2017 MacBook Air i7. The OS is limited to Monterey but the great thing is that I upsized the SSD using an M.2 2280 1TB PCIe Gen3. Perfect for it!
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Yes, those are nice for sure. Also you can use Open Core to increase the OS to the newest levels if you want to later.
@barbancourt69
@barbancourt69 2 ай бұрын
I recently sold my old MacBook Pro I7/16GB/512GB SSD for €200 (Mid 2012). It was still in a perfect condition. Upgraded it to Sonoma with Open Core Legacy Patcher (easy stuff). Me happy and the buyer as well.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Nice older system for sure. Good luck with the new system if you got a new one.
@barbancourt69
@barbancourt69 2 ай бұрын
@@craigneidel Bought the macbook air 15 with 24GB/1TB. (Don't need it, but had a super good deal.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Nice, enjoy it and with that much ram you should be good.
@digitalmarketinghumans
@digitalmarketinghumans 2 ай бұрын
Looking forward to your next video on the newly released M3 macbook Airs. I know it'll be something along the line of , 'M2 is still good' and yep, it is. I am just surprised Apple ended up with putting more anti finger print on the newer M3 with the new coating. Thank goodness it has 2 monitor support now!
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Yes, it seems like a nice system for sure. The M2 is still good and the M3 is slightly better but is going to cost quite a bit more for the upgrades.
@phillipevans7045
@phillipevans7045 2 ай бұрын
I got a 2018 I7 Mac Mini with 32 GB of ram with a 128GB Hard Drive for 388.76.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Not a bad price at all with all that ram.
@williameverets2736
@williameverets2736 2 ай бұрын
I bought a Late 2013 15" MacBook Pro 16GB with 512 GB SSD for $99.00 Plus shipping , Tax tot al $130.00 one think wrong left speaker does not work. Very Happy with it
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Wow, that is a great price. For the money that is not bad and if it does what you need then that's all you need.
@williameverets2736
@williameverets2736 2 ай бұрын
I am not a Butterfly keyboard Fan, 2013 through 2015 MacBook and maybe a 2019 MacBook, I will not buy other the years i typed. Maybe I will try the Vinegar trick one day just to see what happens. Thank again!@@craigneidel
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Yes, but if the keyboards haven't broke yet they are normally going to be better then the ones that broke early on. But, I hear you on that.
@fearlesssoul9408
@fearlesssoul9408 Ай бұрын
Is 13inch MB air 2019 i5, 1.6hz it runs latest OS, 8gb ram, 128ssd & been cycled 48 times worth 450 bucks? Insightful video btw 👍
@craigneidel
@craigneidel Ай бұрын
It should run the newest OS but I would look more for a used M1 Air as it will be much faster and maybe $100 more.
@cheapme1850
@cheapme1850 Ай бұрын
I’ve bought several Intel MacBooks at really cheap prices through CL or even Nextdoor. Usually a simple SSD upgrade and Open Core installed and I’m good to go. It’s great because I can leave them at various places and not worry about toting my M1 around at the risk of losing it or having it stolen.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel Ай бұрын
Yes, Open Core is great and for the money they are nice. I like to travel with them for the same reason because you don't need to worry about them being stolen.
@fefenation
@fefenation 2 ай бұрын
Can I use 2014 pro i7 , 16gb ram 128ssd for video editing,,, premium pro and after effect??
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
I had answered this in another post.
@joshiiishookt816
@joshiiishookt816 Ай бұрын
how about a macbook air 2020 i3? is it good for school? like for pdfs, yt, and mutli tasking
@craigneidel
@craigneidel Ай бұрын
How much. They are ok but m1 air is so much faster that if you can get one for about 200 more I think you will be happier with that for sure. Of course budget is important so only if you can swing the extra cost. The older air would still be ok for basic work
@adrianjenkins2447
@adrianjenkins2447 2 ай бұрын
I would consider buying them for kids to use with school work etc, but not necessary for university. At some point, apple will pull the plug in supporting all Intel Macs. As secondary systems they are excellent, I’m using a 2012 I7 (I think) Mac mini as a Plex/media server.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Yes, they are not for everyone and really for people that can't spend more. Thanks for watching.
@frazerweb
@frazerweb 2 ай бұрын
I probably wouldn't buy one now, but I still use from time my old 2011 macbook pro, which replaced one where the graphic card failed. It still runs osx snow leopard and runs an old copy of photoshop. I have seen intel macbooks selling really cheap lately. This will eventually happen to all computers including the M3 max in time.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Wow, 2011 nice. That is going quite a way back. Goes to show you how long they can last.
@frazerweb
@frazerweb 2 ай бұрын
@craigneidel I still have an 2009 intel dual core for ripping MP3s had one new mother board 3 hard drives and still works lol.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
I have a 2011 iMac but nothing older then that.
@bigpaw01
@bigpaw01 20 күн бұрын
I got a 2018 Mac mini that was new in the box last year for 300.00. It was never opened still had all the Apple stuff in it.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 20 күн бұрын
Not a bad cost but the M1s are now very close to that in cost and will be a bit faster. Either way I hope you are enjoying it.
@inwedavid6919
@inwedavid6919 28 күн бұрын
my makbook pro retina died after 4 years, my hair las a bit longer, but is it reasonable to buy a laptop with glued battery and butterfly keyboards that are far slower than a M1 Macbook?
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 27 күн бұрын
I would only recommend the Intel Macs if the budget of the person buying them can't afford the M-chip Macs. The intel can still work Ok but of course the M1, M2, and M3 will work better for day to day stuff.
@moisemust
@moisemust 18 күн бұрын
Had to ask for a loan to my bank to buy a M2 MacBook Air. I managed to find a deal on the 1TB for €100 less than the 512GB model which is the size I knew I needed, but 1TB I never thought I could afford. I know M3s came out before I bought it but I don’t need the newest model. I’m happy with that but I still want to buy another air, a 2015 intel one but I no longer see the point though, I’d just use it as a writing machine which I can do on my M2 or even on my hackintoshed Asus laptop. I’d just be reassured to have something cheap on the go rather than something I had to borrow money to afford. In my area you can’t buy Mac’s for that cheap. The cheapest airs I found on eBay are €200 and pretty beaten up.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 18 күн бұрын
Yes, in some places the used market is quite different. If you have a M2 Air now then you should be set for a while. Thanks for watching and posting.
@TMMonkeys
@TMMonkeys 2 ай бұрын
These systems are also a very interesting option for anyone cross shopping against Chromebooks
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
For sure and great point.
@nedotraxxxx
@nedotraxxxx 2 ай бұрын
Again, valuable video from Craig 🤝 Without marketing bullshit (thanks for the honest review )
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and for watching the video again. Appreciate it.
@tamalchakraborty5346
@tamalchakraborty5346 2 ай бұрын
800€ for i9 2019 16inch MacBook Pro, with 64Gb of Ram. Crazy, but I would like that extra ram over M1 to be honest.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Yes, the ram is nice to have in some cases for sure.
@harry6083
@harry6083 2 ай бұрын
Only two things that are really annoying with Intel Macs are the loud fan and the horrible battery life. Especially watching youtube. Other than that these Intel Macs are just fine. Especially the ones that were released without the butterfly keyboard a few months before the M1 came out back in 2020. If you can pick one up in pristine condition in sites like Swappa you would not be disappointed.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Yes, the battery is an issue for sure especially if you get one with higher battery counts. The keyboards can be an issue also but they are now so inexpensive it's just a risk I guess.
@stephenfox7866
@stephenfox7866 29 күн бұрын
Great video. Unless you have a special use case, or have lots of money to blow to be on the bleeding edge, Intel Macs work just fine for what most people do on their computers.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 29 күн бұрын
Thank you. Yes, Intel Macs still work great and I use my 2017 with 48 GB for most of my 4K edits.
@MohamedAhmed-mu4tu
@MohamedAhmed-mu4tu 21 күн бұрын
i found mac book pro i9 64gb ram and 2 tb with box used 1 year , selling price 1300 Dollars , and he is ready to install latest os , is this worthy
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 20 күн бұрын
What's the year? That might be a bit high and I would just get the 14" M3 Pro (with Pro chip) for slightly more and I think it might perform better. Don't get me wrong that is still a nice machine and I guess it depends on what you are doing with it.
@MohamedAhmed-mu4tu
@MohamedAhmed-mu4tu 17 күн бұрын
@@craigneidel thanks a lot , its old but it is still in the box , and screen is 16 inch , but i think better i wait for m3 with 16 inch used , as you told its better , i am a mac beginner and use it for studying online and play retro games
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 9 күн бұрын
Thanks and good luck with everything.
@Smittron
@Smittron 2 ай бұрын
Reducing e-waste = good topic. Intel based Macs are also good for running Linux.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Yes, they can run Linux quite well. I might do a video on that in the future.
@geminibodyshop71
@geminibodyshop71 2 ай бұрын
another great video
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the post and for watching.
@geminibodyshop71
@geminibodyshop71 2 ай бұрын
@@craigneidel I watch every video you do a great job and remain positive and impartial and that’s great
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Appreciate the feedback.
@KadMac25
@KadMac25 2 ай бұрын
Is that a skin on your Apple Magic Mouse?
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
No, that is a mouse that I did a video on a few weeks ago. Cheap $15 mouse but looks cool.
@TheMetalMag
@TheMetalMag 20 күн бұрын
I''d rather buy real PPC macs than a intel one. cheaper doesn't change the fact it was bad. While I still use my 27 inch intel iMac, I won't buy another one I just wait to have the money to buy a new M1 or M3 computer.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 19 күн бұрын
Yes, I agree but if somebody has like a $200 budget some of the older iMacs and MacBooks are good enough to get some work done in some cases. They are still better then most very inexpensive Win laptops in that range and you can load on Open Core for newer OS versions.
@gloween9151
@gloween9151 15 күн бұрын
Have an itch in my ass to try a macOS. But I can't justify spending money on a macbook since I have Elitebook 840 G5. The equivalent power macbooks are way to much money. And m1 are way fucking good to consider an intel option. Really like a 12 inch Macbook (2017 only), but that laptop is kinda ass and a waste of money. Thank you for recaling me an existence of mac mini, maybe this is my option.)
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 15 күн бұрын
Nothing wrong with a Mac mini. Thanks for watching.
@Bc232klm
@Bc232klm 2 ай бұрын
Used thinkpads can run macOS better than these for less money.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
I see that you don't like Macs. Three negative comments in a row about them. If you don't like a Mac that is totally fine but why are you then watching Mac videos. I always find that funny.
@Bc232klm
@Bc232klm 2 ай бұрын
That 2019 macbook for 200 was bent lol 😆
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Works fine and is going to be used on the actual desk like a Mac mini. Screen was just damaged.
@LordAlucar01
@LordAlucar01 2 ай бұрын
alot is going on on my side but ill put it on a quick story, i lost my car and i was thinking should i get a new one or commit to finishing my setup this year, i figured out 2 things, first i want macbook pro which means pay over time and second apple march event, if apple release the new ipad with next chip to run games i intend to buy it, if airpods max 2 also comes out i also will get those, if none of those come i will just get macbook pro pay over time, my daily life is now research, netflix/yt and gaming, when i get macbook pro it will enable me to use imac as external monitor for netflix/yt and macbook pro for research and maybe i resume webtoon also if utility allows it, and as i watch netflix i game on my ifon,ipad also has same use for apps plus it is bigger and better if comes with next gaming chip, this allows me to do 3 things, save ifon battery, use it as external monitor or just use it as a individual device for its spefific games since mac and ios use different games, plus they are both touch use unlike mac, for 2024 that is my plot, for 2025 is next ifon, i itend to own 2 ifons because i cant carry ipad with me daily and i cant stay without a phone for 2-3 weeks(pre-order), as for mac gaming i did not give up, im just delaying it because of battery limitations, once it degrates i need to buyback to get value back so getting max is not valid right now, especially since i do not game on mac anytime soon netflix and research takes priority for me, stuff piles up and i lack time to be up to date on everything, i hope you're doing well and keep it up.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the post. Sorry about the car. Sound like a good plan moving forward with all the stuff you plan on getting.
@cyrilwgmail
@cyrilwgmail 2 ай бұрын
Agreed except on cost. Here in super capitalist Hong Kong a 150 dollar Mac performs about as well as a 150 dollar Windows laptop.
@craigneidel
@craigneidel 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
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