Is an older Tesla still good? Model s70d vs s85 free supercharging range and efficiency test review

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2 жыл бұрын

#tesla #models #ev
Free Tesla Supercharging is a fantastic way to save money of course. Who wouldn’t want free fuel?
Some Teslas have this perk but it does require an older Model to qualify. So, do these older cars still drive well with good range or have they suffered battery degradation that would render them almost useless?
Here I take you along on a day where I collect a Model S 70D and use our very S85. Our car is quite high mileage with over 100,000 miles but we certainly still use it every day. Of course normally we charge at home or in the office but when we are on a road trip we certainly make use of the free electric to keep runnings costs low.
I also explain which cars do and do not have free charging. You have to be very careful when buying as I always see a lot of falsely advertised cars for sale.
So have a watch and I hope enjoy.
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@robj3857 2 жыл бұрын

Did 800miles last weekend in my Model S, and the total cost……………£0. Free supercharging is the best!

@petermak750 Жыл бұрын

With our tesla (model s, 2013) we have learned to distress. Every (free) supercharge we get extra time for each other, to take a walk or a coffee. Life has gone better since! Thanx for your great videos and stories Richard.

@RSEV Жыл бұрын

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@stevenlmeyer6668 2 жыл бұрын

I ordered my model S 100D in January 2017, received it in March. After almost 5 1/2 years, there has only been 6% battery degradation, 335 down to 315 miles. It does have free supercharging, but that will not pass on to the next owner. Because of Teslas free software upgrades, it has all the features of a new one. Still looks new, and drives like a new car.

@paulbrowne5049 2 жыл бұрын

I think the transferable supercharging was before 15 th Jan. I know because I was hovering over the order button until 23:55 😳

@curioussand1339 2 жыл бұрын

My BMW E61 525d from 2007 and just short of 250.000 miles still looks modern and nearly drives like a new car, and still goes beyond 620 miles on a "charge", no degradation

@HybridViking 2 жыл бұрын

@@curioussand1339 hurr durr petrol gud... how much is a full tank?

@curioussand1339 2 жыл бұрын

@@HybridViking That's the tricky part, where I live, in Europe, it will cost me what corresponds to 177 $ for a full tank (70 l ~= 18.5 gallons) of tasty diesel. Which is why the car is not used that often currently, for the benefit of the environment and my purchasing power.

@Jeroenneman 2 жыл бұрын

@@curioussand1339 You're taking a pretty loose definition of "still looks modern".

@ddeboy002 2 жыл бұрын

I still have my 2014S and still love it. It's slow on SC but I charge up every night at home. Don't have all the bells and whistles, but so much fun to drive.

@exe889 2 жыл бұрын

My S85 that I bought from you around one year ago now is still going extremely well now with 112000 miles. It has done around 16000 miles over the last 12 months. Not much has failed, 2 door handles, that's all really. CCS upgraded and eMMC replaced under warranty. No road tax and free supercharging. It's up and down to the highlands every week and rear wheel drive (with cross climates) is fine, even in winter. You are right about the purity of the real wheel drivers, my other P85D is great and technically much nicer, but the S85 has charm. And it's probably not depreciated much recently either......happy.

@0-Will-0 2 жыл бұрын

You run two S's?

@bobjohn3108 2 жыл бұрын

@@0-Will-0 baller

@Theundisputedtruth 7 ай бұрын

112k is basic for a basic car nothing special about that😂 when you hit 400k be proud other then that sound like you over paid

@chrissimpson1974 3 ай бұрын

Hi. I'm looking at buying a model s and would look to connect with these guys.i haven't looked as just on comments.what is these guys business name so I can .ake contact? With thanks.

@KwokChunMan 2 жыл бұрын

Bought my 2015 MS85 used last year, and it currently has over 220,000 km on the odometer. Runs very well, thanks to having had its battery replaced under warranty at around 200k km, so I've calculated that the usable capacity is 75 kWh, which easily gets me over 450km now that the temps are higher. Drives like a dream on long journey, especially! Yeah, it's got the usual Tesla issues (*ahem* door handles), but even fixing them out of warranty saves me so much money that I don't have to spend on fuel.

@tesla-spectre 2 жыл бұрын

brilliant video. I fell in love with Tesla in 2012 in a shopping mall in the US when I set the very first time in a Model S (was one of these now rather rare 60kWh Battery pack versions if I remember correctly). was far out of my financial reach but flashed me. took me only nearly 10yrs to get one and now a Model 3. The used Models S are still quite expensive but it is a cool car.

@ocker2000 Жыл бұрын

I find your videos on the model S very helpful. I plan on buying a used one in 2023. Free supercharge, no road tax (in my country) every quarter, comfort of model S instead of a spartan ride of a new small car, and the feeling of safety. One thing I have to get confirmed is what another KZfaqr said about the model S. They are made with aluminium and have less rust than a model 3. Important in countries that use a lot of road salt in winter... Anyway, thanks for sharing your experiences.

@barnabydunning5424 2 жыл бұрын

Super video, full of facts, super nerdy. I can’t explain why this is my favourite KZfaq channel, but it just is. Thanks Richard and team.

@ianshepherd1064 Жыл бұрын

So good I bought the car (70D) 😂

@gustavgron2252 2 жыл бұрын

This KZfaq-channel deserves many more subscribers!

@AKA001 2 жыл бұрын

Im in Australia, I've got a mint 2015 Model S 70 RWD. Premium package, with leather, alcantara on the dash, high fidelity audio, Enhanced Autopilot, airsuspension and lighting package. It now has 104000km on it. It has been the perfect roadtrip car for us. We've driven from Brisbane to Tasmania and back, which about a 5500km round trip. I only spent $11 on charging, because Tasmania doesn't have Superchargers. The rearwheel drive is quieter and nicer to drive than the AWD. A little bit more involved. And it has double the frunk space. Mine has MCU1 with the SD upgraded to 64gb. Will keep this car forever. There aren't many original shaped Model S' in Australia and it will keep appreciating. We're getting a used Model 3 LR alongside as soon as the Y hits our shores at the end of this year. When that happens, our S will be parked in the garage during the week and only go out on weekends and roadtrips.

@Minimux69 2 жыл бұрын

With the current lead times for MY Tesla, increasing I did look at the Model S (older) as an option and your website. This video was great at providing some answers. Can you stop doing them as I am trying to do reports and keep wanting to watch your content haha Thanks and keep them coming!

@RemmoSRednaS 2 жыл бұрын

I have a Model S from end 2018 with free supercharging. Love it. No issues whatsoever and driven 130k kms.

@Frygisk Жыл бұрын

‘15 Model S 85D here. Just about to pass 330.000km, original battery and DU. Works wonderfully and the free supercharging is such a blast these days.

@ptodd1306 2 жыл бұрын

Congrats on getting to 50k subscribers 👏🏼👏🏼 love this channel

@logicsurfer Жыл бұрын

2014 Model S 85 RWD with 275,000 kms. Saves me over 1k per month in fuel. So far I've only had minor issues. New charge port, window regulator adjustments, but all work I've been able to do myself. Still love it! Best purchase ever. Glad I got the RWD it's just so much simpler and easy to work on and only one drive motor to worry about. No Autopilot. Less complication and 30% of my charging is Free Supercharging. Road trips take way longer but the drive is so nice and it's free. I spend my money on meals instead of gas.

@stricardo1 2 жыл бұрын

Really interesting and informative video. Your standards just get better and better without a hint of 'KZfaq' cliche.

@0-Will-0 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, please try not to be influenced by other influencers, when doing your influencing Richard!

@amyroberts8340 2 жыл бұрын

Got my 2014 model S p85 from you in late October (great customer service, thanks), done over 6500 miles since and compared to old Avensis at 42mpg, have saved over £1k using just the free supercharging. Putting the saving into the MCU2 later in the year. Another great video

@kv1930 2 жыл бұрын

You made my point,what you save on gas,will be put into a expensive repair. I'm missing the cost savings here? I'm not a hater,I hope you will have 500,000 trouble free miles!

@amyroberts8340 2 жыл бұрын

@@kv1930 it is not a repair. This is basically me wanting a better infotainment system than standard which is still working fine. So could do without. Therefore is saving and no repair.

@kv1930 2 жыл бұрын

@@amyroberts8340 oh sweet!! I think buying a used Tesla is the way to go!! I'm also glad you have free supercharging! Here in the States,if you buy a used Tesla from Tesla the SP does not transfer!!

@amyroberts8340 2 жыл бұрын

@@kv1930 same here, that's why you should buy private or through a dealer such as RSEV

@kv1930 2 жыл бұрын

@@amyroberts8340 I agree! Please keep me posted on your Tesla!!

@StevenHaggis 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant Vid, very informative!!

@MarinoRacing 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2013 Model S with a little less than 150k miles, still going strong! Only expenses include MCU2, ceramic, & tires.

@royowens2869 2 жыл бұрын

Hi I am in Northern Ireland & purchased 2014 model s p85 signature fully specked with only 28000 miles ( now 35000 on it) and love it,I really enjoy watching all you useful videos on the model s keep up the good work. Roy

@RSEV 2 жыл бұрын

My own p85+ signature red that I used to own also ended up going to Ireland…!

@matjaro 2 жыл бұрын

my second hand 2014 Model S with 520k kms that i've owned since 500k kms have been amazing for the past year ownership, best car ever period

@RSEV 2 жыл бұрын

That’s some good mileage 💪

@chad9711 2 жыл бұрын

original battery?

@matjaro 2 жыл бұрын

@@chad9711 changed once in the middle at 250k, it is free under the 8 years warranty and around 9000 euro out of warranty

@artrathousky2878 Жыл бұрын

@@matjaro 9k sounds very low, are you sure it is only that much?

@mrmawson2438 2 жыл бұрын

Great video mate 👌

@jonathantaylor1998 2 жыл бұрын

Great comparison video - as always, guys... You really know exactly what your audience likes to watch. 😎 That explanation of which cars get free Supercharging and which don't was, on the face of it, dead easy - a car ordered before the end of 2016 - but, oh boy, WHAT a fly-in-the-ointment complication that issue was if the car had been latterly sold on by a Tesla Approved Used outlet...!! 😲 Surely, there must be some software 'flag' that could tell a prospective buyer whether or not a car has the free Supercharging option...? 🤔

@mattbk1yn 2 жыл бұрын

planning to buy a 2014 P85. nervous and excited equal measure. your videos are worth their weight in gold. even though that makes no sense.

@nannettewhite1653 2 жыл бұрын

Love your videos. I live in the US and watch you all the time. Maybe next time I visit the UK will reach out. Lovely videos

@RSEV 2 жыл бұрын

🤗 do come and visit!

@rickdibello3823 2 жыл бұрын

Great explanation! Thanks!

@wojciechmuras553 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this! 85 vs 70D is a big consideration for many Tesla shoppers today, including me. Perfect timing!

@mjmherts 2 жыл бұрын

Another great video Richard

@stefanhendrickx979 Жыл бұрын

Extra distance counts, means eachrome 2 hours easy at 80m h,130km/ h, then relax and charge eating resting 45min and go again

@jm9371 2 жыл бұрын

Great analysis.. thank you.

@trevorsbarkingmadchannel4501 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant vlog and comparison ? Have they upgraded the Pompey superchargers ? Were always dreadfully slow back 2.5 yrs ago. Best bit was the bouncy road going to them. Lol. Best wishes

@josepablomolinacarrillo3621 2 жыл бұрын

Great videos!

@freestuffgiveaways 2 жыл бұрын

I remember when you were at you're old place (next to the petrol station) and you let me drive a red model x. one of the best experiences of driving ive had!! just wish I could afford a Tesla, I hope they will come to Motability one day 🙏

@jg3p1 Жыл бұрын

very informative. thanks.

@ar-2-r 2 жыл бұрын

I had 2014 model S 85 since half 2019 and sold it in Dec. 2021. This was the best car ever from driving experience + free supercharging saved me 4000 Euro, no road tax in Belgium and completely issue free ownership. I have a 2021 model 3 SR+ and I love it for all that new tech but I miss my model S. I hope one day I will be able to afford new version of model S since it is fantastic machine :).

@relaxnchill9335 2 жыл бұрын

amazing how Tesla's 8 year old tech is more efficient than todays German EV's !

@Sam-tx1tn 2 жыл бұрын

More efficient but zero comparison on build and material quality in my experience.

@relaxnchill9335 2 жыл бұрын

@@Sam-tx1tn not so good but zero is harsh. Remember Tesla are less expensive, faster, loads more space, better tech and more efficient. Model Y overall package in a different league to a EQC imo.

@Sam-tx1tn 2 жыл бұрын

@@relaxnchill9335 current Teslas are mostly pretty good. I was talking about earlier cars. The quality just wasn’t very good.

@JohnDoe-vf3qo Жыл бұрын

8 year old tech from 2012 being compared to them just starting is bad. I think you have to wait before comparing the two.

@computercrack 2 ай бұрын

you wish

@aussietaipan8700 Жыл бұрын

Time is money, so I will keep my ice cars for as long as I can but I will have a Tesla model S in my driveway soon. I have room and requirements for my 2 ice and 1 EV. Here in Victoria Australia our state government makes EV owners pay 2.6 cents per kilometer driven so EV's are taxed here. There is currently a high court challenge to remove this tax. Your channel is superb and helps me to make my decision on which Model S to consider for my driveway.

@lexkruit6775 Жыл бұрын

Just got my first Tesla model S - 2014, nice nice ride!

@sheldonv8 2 жыл бұрын

Love my old 2015 70D. . I've put just under 35,000 miles on it in 2 years so nearly at 99,000 miles now and averaged 303w/m over that time. . Off to Monte Carlo in it next week. 2000 old miles there and back for free. What's not to like 👍👍👍👍

@mrmawson2438 2 жыл бұрын

This will be a good review

@billycan8852 2 жыл бұрын

Love my model S best car I have ever owned .

@Johnny2Feathers 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve heard that from the many Tesla owners I’ve asked over the years. Now I find myself saying the same to others asking me about my 2022 Model 3 Long Range.

@jamespink4202 2 жыл бұрын

We have a 100,000 mile fully optioned Model S P85 performance. Only cost was at the last MOT (2 x ball joints). Other than that tyres and wiper blades... Free super charging, perfect drive, super fast, quiet. We upgraded to MCI2 for £600. Brilliant!

@MatthewMayhew 2 жыл бұрын

I really like your videos, but can I make a suggestion? You often talk about figures but it would be really helpful to add more overlay graphics to your videos so we can see the comparison easily. You do do it sometimes, but nowhere near enough. It makes it hard to appreciate differences/similiarities

@mikecounsell 2 жыл бұрын

Just did a 1,700 mile round trip to Switzerland in an S75 (single) in 30C to 38C conditions with the AC blaring out all the time. The trip was a dream, superchargers worked great, car worked great, super responsive when required. I think I "sold" a few Teslas also en route when speaking to folks who asked about EVs/Teslas in general also!!! Unless you want to spend 10 to 20 hours dehydrating yourself or p155ing into an empty bottle then time spent charging is perfectly acceptable... time for coffee, chill out, check emails, book the eurotunnel... make some calls, chat "Tesla" to fellow geeks ;-) if it works over a 1,700 mile trip it defo works for folks daily 20mile commutes. Keep the great vids coming folks.

@Jaw0lf 2 жыл бұрын

Another great video an 8 year old EV that has done over 100,000 miles and over 250 mile range. Absolutely kills the ideas that EV's can't do that and need new batteries. The quicker we can educate the general public the better! I tend to stop after 2 hours driving as ready for a break and charge at that time, usually 30- 40 mins and it is easy. Also I live 16 miles round trip from my petrol station and this could take anything from 20 to 40 minutes to get in, 10 mins to fill and pay (after queueing) so a loss of over an hour in general to fill the car up. Now I can arrive home with as little as 10 miles range, plug in my home charger (30 seconds) and go to bed. When I wake up I have over 220 miles range (at 80%). EV life is easy!

@steveyoung8376 2 жыл бұрын

My old P85 2014 had an 85kWh battery but I think useable battery was about 72kwh and acceleration 0-60 4.2 secs, ny 2017 S75 has 75 kWh battery and 72.5 kWh useable, and 0-60 4.3/4.4 seconds. The 75 is lighter. Both RWD which I love, also had a model 3 RWD.

@donaldsaucier1603 4 ай бұрын

Great Information 😎😎😎🤟🤟🤟 Just bought 3 weeks ago a 2015 Tesla Mod S 70D Executive Edition (with rear bucket seats ) …a rare Blue Bird, I call her …… 💜💜💜Beau from Laguna Beach and … Loving my new buggy 💕💗💫✨🌟🤟🤟🤟😎😎😎🏝️🏝️🏝️

@workphil99 2 жыл бұрын

I've had an S85D from new in August 2015 (the first "non P" 4 wheel drive car in the UK). 153,000 miles later and a new "brain" in December 2021, it's still a fantastic car, with free supercharging when I need it, although it's much slower ti charge than it was. I'll keep it until next year, and then consider changing for a new EV.

@kivngken Жыл бұрын

When u bought the car did all you do is make your Tesla account and put it on the car and it still said free superchargering ?

@geordieyoshi 2 жыл бұрын

I have the P85, 2015 with all the extras, had it 4 years bought direct off Tesla, still with 2 year warranty, and to be honest haven’t really used the Superchargers much. I like the back wheel drive but sometimes it can be a handful with all the power in the wet. Still looks great and is immaculate, but was looking to change to a model Y, but finding it hard to make the step to get rid of it as I like it so much.

@teslajourneys Жыл бұрын

I have a 2016 S70 RWD. Finding it hard to switch to a Y because it is so fun to drive, sound system, space, and FSC can’t be beat. The slower charging is a bit annoying but getting it free gets rid of the annoyance quickly. Bought it from a private seller with 62k miles 10/21 and has 91k miles now. No issues and drive amazing. Feeling blessed. My wife is driving a Y and she loves how the S drives. Great video 🙌

@henriquerochelle 2 жыл бұрын

own a Tesla Model X Year 2017 with unlimited charging! unfortunately I imported the car to Brazil and here we still don't have a Tesla supercharger But one day it will come!! Congrats for the Vídeo !!

@RSEV 2 жыл бұрын

Cool a Model X in Brazil 👏🏼👏🏼

@SirHackaL0t. 2 жыл бұрын

James Cooke has a 154,000 mile Model S and he did an update video the other day. He loves it.

@stephensharp975 2 жыл бұрын

i have a 2015 85d with 190,000kms and shows 400kms on full charge, it also has free supercharging. I recently went from Orleans to near Geneva approx. 600kms with a guy who had a diesel car both leaving at the same time. it took 15 mins longer in the Tesla as we charged while eating, so not a big difference in time for a saving of about 80 euros each way. We are lucky as we have free charging at work, so my fuel costs are very, very small, I bought it cheap at a car auction a couple of years ago and it is still worth what I paid for it. I have had 2 door handles and mcu2 upgrade as my old MCU1failed, i have also had ccs upgrade which is well worth the money, I also fixed water in the rear light myself took a couple of hours, and cost a bit of glue.

@SwitchedOnNetwork 2 жыл бұрын

Great video and thanks for explaining the end-of-2016 rule... but any tips on how to tell if a car actually DOES have the free supercharging, and it's not been stripped off it or not transferred in some way? For example, if I go on Autotrader right now there's a 2014 S85 for £29,895 with 143k miles on the clock and it says Free Supercharging.... how would I know for sure that if I bought it, it would transfer to me and there's not a pitfall? Thanks!

@FlyingFun. Жыл бұрын

I saw that too. But it still a pretty old car for a lot of money. Lots of things to potentially go wrong ..

@Peoplestariff Жыл бұрын

Watching now :)

@buzzofftoxicblog791 2 жыл бұрын

As always first class reviw of 2 amazing cars really wanted a S but BMW gave us such a good deal on a new i3S when mentioned second hand Tesla S 😊 Still would like a Tesla S definitelytly a classic of the future 😀 price may go up?

@ramblerandy2397 2 жыл бұрын

Remarkable, to be honest. Both cars are at or near the end of their battery warranties yet will be fine for another 8 years and more. Not forgetting that battery chemistries have improved well since these were built with their 18650 formats. Both achieve better efficiency than my year old VW ID.3, as well. 250 mile cars all day long. 210+ in the winter, I would expect. Cheap to run premium cars.

@Lui-893 25 күн бұрын

I have a Tesla 90D 2016 model owned it 5 years Done 350.000 miles with normal wear and tear and still on original battery Great reliability and free charging

@ianshepherd1064 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing video - in fact it was so good that I bought the car! I am currently doing about 1300 miles per week and my expenditure has gone from around £225 per week to £0. Even after the finance costs I am still about £400 per month better off. It was a no brainer. Thank you Jo, Amie, and Richard.

@elekktrisch8087 Жыл бұрын

Congrats, enjoy!

@JohnDoe-vf3qo Жыл бұрын

Better off from what?

@ANGESPURS 2 жыл бұрын

Had my 2016 S90 from new full spec air suspension , auto pilot . 335,000 later still going great had replacement battery at 200,000 . Been running a chauffeur company for 25 years most reliable car I've had. Best of all free supercharging.

@Wol747 2 жыл бұрын

In 2019 I ordered a S - LR but during the online ordering process I became suspicious that my data was being compromised. (It took months to restart my bank accounts etc and I deleted the order.) I re-ordered and when my car arrived as a 2020 model I was delighted to see it came with free supercharging! They must have been unknown to me doing a promotion for a short time, perhaps to clear stock. So I have a 2020 S- LR Raven with original owner-only FSC. So you are not absolutely correct in the description of the eligibility. Great video though!

@joninmelbourne 7 ай бұрын

I had my 2016 75 Model S since new with free supercharging. Still look forward to driving it, still turns heads here in Melbourne Australia and I regularly drive to Queensland 1300 miles each way 99% on autopilot and free all the way. No servicing costs either. Could not think of a more perfect car.

@Tombnolz Жыл бұрын

I have a Model S Long Range (100 kWh) from september 2019 with free supercharging (not transferable)! In some months of that year all S's en X's came with free supercharging to boost the sales. It now has 148.000 km on the odo, 99% of it by supercharging (degradation only 4,5%). Lately got 156 kW peak on a new V3. Last week I covered exactly 400 highway km with 85% of the battery capacity. I will drive and supercharge this dream car untill it's so broken that it can't be fixed anymore.

@outbackev-hunter6035 2 жыл бұрын

Yep Have a S85 Sept 2014 build w/AP1 (Tech Pack with Free Supercharging) bought in March 2018 with 20,000kms as one of the last APO cars in Central Australia. we got another 4 years warrenty which has just run out and used it as my work truck, tow small trailers, I drive to Ayres Rock biYearly and Adelaide and Darwin 1000mi once a year, great to fit the spare in the frunk and have added 22kw and MC2 with 4G and CCS2 conversion..but no Superchargers for 1000mi! so only SC maybe 10 times! lots of country KS .Just ordered a model Y and tossing up the change??

@hailstorm711 2 жыл бұрын

Appreciating assets 👍🏼

@MJB9559 2 жыл бұрын

That rear parcel shelf on that car you picked would drive me mad 🤯👍

@RSEV 2 жыл бұрын

I forgot to flap it back over… was in my mirror all journey 😂

@MJB9559 2 жыл бұрын

@@RSEV 😂👍

@ianshepherd1064 2 жыл бұрын

I don't have a problem with it @RSymons RSEV as i always fold it back 😂

@FrenchNiceGuy Жыл бұрын

I have a model s performance since december 2019. We got free supercharging as well which is really nice and we drove 130k km without any major issue.

@MultiTadhg Жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Yes I would stand around for 40 minutes, in the freezing cold, in my underpants, in the dark, on my head, and save 100 quid. Flipping sure, but no need. I'll go in store, grab a coffee and watch an Rsymons RSEV video on KZfaq instead.

@RSEV Жыл бұрын

👌😂

@robinspat 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video 🎈☝🏻❤️. Point missed… RJ14 car efficiency obviously seriously impacted by extra weight carried on frunk bonnet 👀🤣

@andrewcarfax-foster5046 3 ай бұрын

22:33, I Happen to have moved across the road from a supercharger, which is next to my gym and supermarket. Also have a fairly long daily commute. Free charging on an older tesla while picking up groceries or working out seems extremely attractive.

@DaviDeXtA 2 жыл бұрын

Nail on the head with that final comment. I’ve put it to people before, is your time really worth that much? It’s similar to trickle charging at home on solar for free. The car is sat there all day charging at 2kw, if I had an ICE car it would also sit there. Difference being at the end of the day I got a full tank for nothing.

@ken830 2 жыл бұрын

It's been nearly 10 years, and my early 2013 Model S 85 has over 160k miles and about 90% battery capacity... Powertrain still drives like new. Free Supercharging is nice, but we never use it. It's going to be replaced with a new Model X because I want my wife and kids to have AEB, lane-keep, and other active safety feature of the newer Autpilot-capable cars.

@bavariancarenthusiast2722 2 жыл бұрын

Why did you never use free supercharging? No chargers around? Since it was a big deal in the time...

@ken830 2 жыл бұрын

@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 We live in San Carlos (Tesla's founding city) here in the SF Bay Area, so they are everywhere. There is a Supercharger site just a few blocks down the street... It's still *way* more convenient to charge at home. 1 or 2 seconds to reach over and plug in. We also have 3 kids, and who would want to wait around for the car to charge regularly with kids in tow? Plus, home charging is like 75-80% savings over buying gas back with gas was $4/gal, so we really don't feel the need to make that 100% savings... The difference is even greater now, obviously. We do Supercharge when doing road trips -- we used to do 6-7 trips per year to Disneyland. We haven't done that in 3 years (due to the pandemic). We will be doing a trip in a couple of weeks, but we're going to be taking the newer Model 3 Performance because of Autopilot and FSD. My Model 3 is one of the very first Performance cars built by Tesla and is early enough to have had free Supercharging included, but I gave up free Supercharging for $5k rebate during the Performance price-cut fiasco -- although I gave it all back buying FSD (missed the $2k offer). Even paying for Supercharging is worth the convenience of Autopilot and FSD on a road trip... My Model S is so early, it doesn't have Autopilot... it doesn't even have ultrasonic parking sensors... heck, it doesn't even have power-folding mirrors... It's among the first few thousand cars produced at the beginning of 2013.

@JohnDoe-vf3qo Жыл бұрын

I think comparing 11 years of Tesla especially when we are in the same generation is a bit bad. I think to determine the uses and value we need to wait a bit longer because I think the problem will be the same as an iPhone when your tech becomes too outdated rather than your battery degradation.

@wheelman9400 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Richard, Great videos, keep up the good work. A note for you - I run a 2020 Tesla Model X that has free supercharging, you need to edit your video when you say post 2017 will not have free supercharging. Also, a question for you, whatever happened to you being able to supply and fit a yoke to a Model 3, can you offer this? What is the cost?

@RSEV 2 жыл бұрын

Hi. Your X will not have free supercharging for another owner. It’s non-transferable. Make the most of it! Steering wheel yoke is now available, if you check out our “other services” page on our website www.rsev.co.uk and it then actually gets ordered via our partner in Germany and we then fit. But otherwise if you were to buy one from online we can fit it for tou

@clariceqtaylor 8 ай бұрын

I just bought a 2015 70D with Free supercharging and it is such a incredible deal haha... I specifically looked for a older one that was AWD and had free charging.

@riccardos3196 2 жыл бұрын

How much would a new battery cost out of curiosity or motor, chances of anything failing due to the age? Great video

@tamasstrezi 2 жыл бұрын

My S85 had 71.5kwh usable @ 80k miles when five years old. Now, three and a half years later its still running strong around 67kwh usable battery. Enjoying RWD a lot, lots of long SUC road trips ;) No commuting at all.

@slartybartfarst9737 Жыл бұрын

Ive run a P85 RWD Pearl White 19" Black wheels Cream interior sunroof delete Model S from new now 125,000 uk miles wow its still such a lot of fun. Now Ebay is featuring OEM parts like front discs £40 a side and pads at £22 the front pair DIY routine maintenance just adds to the free for life supercharging. Got a Plaid and Roadster or order but why would I! Update140,000 miles still having fun, plundered Ebay every time I see a bargin basement pair of suspension parts I fit them at my own leisure, wow what a difference. The RWD cars especially the performance cars mess with the wubbery bits in suspension so what is not a MOT fail when replaced with new makes the car drive so much better, well worth doing if you can weild a spanner.

@benkanobe7500 Жыл бұрын

I purchased my car! Every option available from new and all Tesla upgrades: 2015 S P85D with ludicrous and every option available. I am so happy! It is not the range it is how you feel during the trip and nothing delivers like a Model S. If you have to stop more often, more time to talk to people curious about the car and to get your head in order....

@joel8628 Жыл бұрын

What do you know about 90d charging speeds? Are they also slower? Great vid!

@inqonthat1463 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for discussing the topic I've been watching YT all day for (Free Supercharging for Life). (1) I now understand the car's time frame December, 2016 or earlier (Ordering)... meaning a 2017 model year MIGHT have it. (2) But also that if it every went back through Tesla's hands, it'll be removed. (3) That dealers or people may be deceptive in their advertising of this feature. How does one go about confirming a specific item has this on it or not? Does it show on the screen? Can a VIN check be done? Does it have to be taken to a Supercharging station and try it out? And how would I verify this from hundreds of miles away from the dealer?

@RFBrasher Жыл бұрын

I have a May 2015 85D with 111,000 miles. About 5 or 6% battery degradation. Titanium metallic, tan interior with alcantara, AP 1.0, air suspension, sun roof, next gen seats, MCU2 upgrade. Best car I have ever owned! I’d love to get a new car, but I can find anything I’d rather own (for the money, anyway)!

@tyranelewis7763 Жыл бұрын

we have almost the same car. i also did the MCU2 upgrade. Would anyone here or you Mr. Symons trade my 2015 85D Titanium Metallic, Gray Next Gen seats , Black Alcantara (have dash included), MCU2 Upgrade, Very Factory like Center console, Free Premium connectivity, Free lifetime supercharge, 3rd row rear facing Seats, Basic sound system 46,807 Miles for 2020 Black on Black Model S long range plus 15,000 miles $87,000.00 ?

@tyranelewis7763 Жыл бұрын

Rare exterior color!!!!

@RFBrasher Жыл бұрын

Actually, according to abrp, the battery degradation is only 3.8%.

@markfortune4199 2 жыл бұрын

How many of these cars to do you come across/deal in? Do you source them on customer demand etc, also what price bracket are we talking about with a Model S you come across with free SC? It is just many questions I am having, like my other post on your buyers guide, I will soon be looking to buy a Tesla (waiting on my house sale to go through) as got a lockdown puppy and Tesla offer dog mode.

@benj6244 2 жыл бұрын

I'm more and more sold on these. The trouble is still the initial cost for us although we both drive < 3 year old petrol and diesels which is ramping up in cost! My work do a salary sacrifice scheme but its a wait of a year for the car! Maybe second hand ev is the way to go

@yourtimetorelaxyt 11 ай бұрын

Hi there, I am looking at a 2015 tesla model s 85d with free supercharging. A question, are they free to charge on the destination chargers also?

@tonyadigitalnorway1155 2 ай бұрын

Here in Norway we have an excellent infrastructure in place with over 8000 chargers dotted around the country and 91% of all new cars sold are electric. Personally I enjoy free worldwide supercharging & internet connectivity with my 2014 Tesla Model S but if I chose to upgrade to a new Tesla I can transfer that to the new vehicle at no extra charge. You can pick up a 2014 Model S with free charging for around £7500 just now after the big price drop on new models.

@johnmackay5288 2 жыл бұрын

What is it about Supercharging that can shorten the efficiency of the battery..you mentioned it briefly? Does this still apply to “modern” Teslas and is it detrimental to cars like the Taycan that can accept 270kw speeds? Many thanks.

@cubiq1 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video! Would you still recommend a Model S with free Supercharging in 2023? Or are these cars getting a bit old and unreliable now?

@mattysea7163 2 ай бұрын

Even without the free supercharging the pure day to day running cost of an ev is undeniable. With octopus it costs me £45-£50 a month to do around 1600 miles in my e208, compare that to my cooper s and it’s £250 - 270. It 100% make sense FOR ME.

@Joe-lb8qn 2 жыл бұрын

I have a friend with a Model S with free SC. Originally came from Norway so LH drive. Its quite a nice perk and he doesn't have a charger at home preferring to charge at the local SC. OTOH it doesn't cost too much to charge at home off peak so is it really saving much money unless you are doing really high mileage?

@nikelliot8105 2 жыл бұрын

If I had test driven a springs S I would not have bought my 75D. Air is a major upgrade over springs👍

@dangr3957 2 жыл бұрын

Last April I bought a 2016 facelift S70 with 117k and now 12k later I can tell I don’t feel bad about it well actually I am obsessed with it the way that my wife is getting jealous!😅Range haven’t changed 194/244miles, since the energy price hike I use only free supercharger as I live 5 min away from one. I only charge it from 20-30% to 50-60% and only charge it higher if we go anywhere further. Only thing I spent on it was a CCS upgrade and recently they changed the eMMC and made the frunk latch easier to close both free. I had a 2017 AWD loaner for 10 days and it was a joy to drive my RWD again as it has a better steering feel. It’s advisable to put the steering to sport mode on motorways. Personally I save roughly £2500+/year not buying fuel. My only complaint about the 2016 MS is that it comes without the repeater cameras and sentry mode which would need MCU2 upgrade. I bought two repeater on eBay from Model 3 and I can tell it is compatible, all Teslas using the same repeater, and now my S70 has a newer sleeker look. I “upgraded” one more thing I bought a 2channel LTE BlackVue dash cam so now I got my “sentry mode”!😅☝️ I have to mention that last year I took it to Richards to re spray a few wheels and they had a look and fixed one of my door which was keep opening, it was something with the door handle mechanism. Ever since I keep a RSEV sticker on as an ethereal gratitude for their excellent service.🙏

@RSEV 2 жыл бұрын

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@teslajourneys Жыл бұрын

How are the repeater cameras working? I have MCU2 and would love to add the cameras to my MS early 2016. @Dan GR. Thanks for commenting and sharing.

@DazznetITServices 2 жыл бұрын

I purchased my 66 plate Model S 90d from you 18 months ago (stunning Matt silver wrapped). Free supercharging is such a bonus, especially on an 800 mile trip through France!! Interested to see your economy on these cars around 250-260wh/m. I struggle to get under 300 even when trying to drive as economically as possible. I do have the 21inch wheels so would that be a factor? Was starting to think a 66 plate was ‘getting old’ even with just 36,600 miles on the clock but this video suggests there is a lot more life left in these cars still today. Realistic range on my S is around 200 miles which in real life experience isn’t an issue. Apart from a costly failed heat pump cooler which was a £1300 repair from Tesla the car has been fantastic. Considering a CCS upgrade and MCU2 upgrade, do you feel it is worth the investment on those early Model S cars? Great video and looking forward to seeing more from these older S’s

@ianshepherd1064 Жыл бұрын

I bought the 70D that was in the video and have done over 10,000 miles - saving a massive amount of money compared to my previous ICE car. I am currently sat at a supercharger having left Exeter with 98% charge, drove for 3 hours 40 minutes, travelled 212.4 miles and arrived with 8% charge left. Had I continued driving I would probably have got just over 230 miles from a car which is rated at 220 miles. 56.6 kWh and 266 Wh/mi. Very impressed and so glad I bought it 😊.

@MrBooh2010 Жыл бұрын

S70 2015 Free charging 120k miles running great

@rogerstarkey5390 2 жыл бұрын

Richard. Heads up. VERY interesting post by Bjørn Nyland just now. . Remote pack condition reporting system. . Looks like something that would be beneficial for your business?

@Killahkron1992 Жыл бұрын

2012 Tesla model S I love it just wish it had autopilot P85 123k miles

@kevinnuttall7858 2 жыл бұрын

We have a 2014 p85 with 164000 miles and still going very strong still get over 220 on a full charge with free super charging ect

@benkanobe7500 Жыл бұрын

I live in San Diego CA and want to purchase the best Tesla Model S that still has the free Super Charging. How do I make sure I get that in the transfer from the original owner? I like the large sunroof. Is that only on later Model S cars without free super charging? Any help would be appreciated. Do recommend a specific older Model S?

@aidanapword 2 жыл бұрын

I did some calculations when I bought a 2017 Model S at the cost of "saving time" by buying fuel ... it worked out at about 25 gbp per hour. Heaven only knows what it would be now.

@RSEV 2 жыл бұрын

Great way to think of it. Will work out a “current” ⚡️ equivalent

@thedaveaftertomorrow 2 жыл бұрын

What’s the software support and performance like for older cars - I’m guessing there isn’t the redundancy that you get with phones etc?

@djgoode Жыл бұрын

Can answer the if you had to wait but your fuels free question now. I will wait thank you. And thank you to Serge Gints and Jo for there parts in buying my P85D all that I hoped and more and so far free motoring.

@ttcaswell291 2 жыл бұрын

Bought a 2015 S85 with just 19k on the clock in Feb. Not the cheapest S but even still has that new car smell lol

@bikeman123 2 жыл бұрын

Still confused as to whether a model S has free supercharging or not. Pre 2017 cars had it but might not depending upon xyz. All as clear as mud and easy to get duped as a buyer. Isn't there a way to check?