Watch this disaster save Belgium recover itself while Great Britain retreats into the dark ages!

"You know, mankind really was meant for the land, not the sea. The fish rule the waves." -Queen Victoria, 1877, moments before blowing up every port in the Isles

Absolute legend for that opening joke.

This happened to me in my Dutch East Indies save, they removed all their ports and proceeded to bankruptcy spiral for 40 years straight

Yep, the port-deleting is a reported bug. Happened to me playing Madagascar in the British market. Had a #3 economy as Mad go into free-fall because GB decided they were done with ports. Usually happens after a revolution in the country. Really hope they fix it soon. Kind of game-breaking.

Worker’s cooperatives aren’t broken, they are functionally that good in reality, which is why industrialists and wealthy work hard to keep them a boogeyman

Britain taking that splendid isolation to the next level, isolating themselves even from their own empire

my prayers for anarchy gameplay have been answered

When the devs accidentally show how socalism is cracked

I think you are unable to export clothes to Britain, because they didn't have any active trade centers. They had no ports for months, so almost all of the population reverted back to peasants and nobody was employed in the trade centers anymore, which is why the projected amount of trade became zero.

Thinh is this is the correct, real and historical benefit of anarchistic societies. And the downsides are all problems that are erased by the level of control the player gets so it's kind of impossible to "fix"

How to fix economy? Just make clothes powered by anarchists! ~ OPB probably

Wait, they put fake countries like Belgium in the game? I thought PDX always had realistic starting maps…

To be clear, it was specifically Command Economy/subsidizing everything that I had problems with, not Worker Co-ops. Co-ops are busted. They boost SoL like crazy, and even in an economy that doesn't run on subsidies having a decent growth plan and/or a cash cow industry keeps them flush with cash, creating a loyal population and a strong consumer market. Slight employment adjustments in a few unproductive industries don't really produce that many radicals when the Party is strong and the overall economy is booming. And the way co-ops funnel money to the workers keeps the Party strong. Getting active trade going instead of being a pariah still works towards ensuring that your economy has extensive resource and consumption bases to work with. I also find it somewhat facetious to say "OK, we don't have oil" and then go all-in on Rubber, the other seriously limited resource that you need to have special lands to produce (even though said lands can be gained "more easily" with colonization). It ignores the point about the limits on "making inputs cheap", which is needed to keep the subsidy stress low. This is a great showcase of "you don't need to have all the resources or consumption if you can tap them externally", but it only postpones the end state of resource exhaustion, especially in the current state of the game with no way of building up foreign extraction capacities. To clarify, my current save that inspired the original comment is in a "suffering from success" stage where the GDP of Japan-with-colonies is 5B (3 of my states each have higher GDP than the next country) and average SoL is over 30, but PMs are pretty much maxed out, rubber is stretched thin even with worldwide imports simply to keep up with the domestic consumption of Luxury Clothes (and I'm nowhere near able to export all the cheap normal clothes while still having massive profits), and the wages have spiralled out of control to the point where even with favorably imbalanced inputs only generous subsidies can keep the energy industry afloat. The GDP dipped badly once I adopted Worker Protections before I defunded the institution (even though I have maxed out welfare, so the pop income didn't even change). The wage share explosion also means that Graduated Taxation would actually reduce my government income, because a lot of money got moved out of dividends into wages despite most pops being owners.

My current run as the USA, I forced myself into a Monarchy, because nobody wanted to go council republic until I did.

Sadly the AIs tend to delete all of their ports pretty frequently. A huge hit to their market seems to do the trick pretty often. I've been able to replicate Great Britain nuking their ports three times now, every time by waiting for them to turn EIC into a puppet and then doing transfer subject on them. Most recently, it was in a Russia game where I then proceeded to just watch as they all starved to death on their island and their dominions and puppets all started wasting away. The fun, if a bit gamey, part is that they quickly lose great power status and you can just swoop in to puppet them and also inherit all of their remaining puppets/dominions. If you don't want every AI to just start crapping the bed half a century in, I recommend Anbeeld's AI mod (Anbeeld's Revision of AI). With it, you can expect the likes of Britain and France to hit 1B GDP in the late game if the player doesn't *intervene* as players have a habit of doing. The upside is competent AIs that you can actually trade with and the downside is that the lategame slowdown hits a lot more early. I just toggle it on when i want an actual game and toggle it off when I want to be a bully or go for a lategame achievement. Bonus points: the mod is achievement compatible. Come to think of it, I would love to see a video or two featuring Anbeeld's mod, maybe spectator games and taking some deep dives in and tagging around to see exactly what it causes the AIs to do differently from vanilla.

"Why don't we do this in the real world" Well we try. And we try A LOT. But often governments have internal and external competition to deal with, and monopoly is costly to maintain.

Mother Anarchy loves her sons!

I have been loving your content and this saving of disater saves as it has been teaching me tons of stuff about the game. keep up the great work.

I played a East India Company game last week, and just suddenly in the 1870/1880s, the entire British realm suddenly had 0% market access. It crippled my nation. Even though I had thrice the GDP of Britain (I didn't decide to go independent before), my market tab was just 0 to 100s for all the goods, forced me to go independent in a short amount of time. So now watching this video, I finally get what happened, like, WTF Paradox, why does the UK just destroy ports like that?!?!

HAPPY NEW YEAR OPB. Miss your CK3 content. But look forward to more of it in 2023. Which shall hopefully be a good year for CK3

Hey just wanted to say your videos on Victoria 3 have really helped me improve my gameplay ability and overall enjoyment of the game.

Yes more anarchy please!

these disaster saves are awesome, but maybe doing a run yourself could be fun to watch as well

Something important about command economy is the nature of taxes and subsidies. Normally in a command economy, all profits go to the government and all wages are paid by the government, so there is no point in taxation- the government would just be paying itself it's own money. In Vic3 however, subsidies are just 'whatever amount of money x building needs to max employment' so highly profitable buildings don't take up subsidies. So if a building is 50% subsidized, that means 50% of taxes it pays aren't real income for you. This is why graduated taxation is so important for a command economy. Dividend payments are dependent upon profitability, with more profitable businesses paying more of their revenue in the form of dividends. Conversely, less profitable buildings pay more of their revenue in wages. Since profitable buildings don't need subsidies, this means that combining graduated taxation with command economy ensures a larger portion of taxes you are paid are real income. It also helps ensure a greater degree of wealth distribution. Interestingly, this is also why graduated taxation is bad for Laissez-fair economies, as dividends taxes cut directly into the money capitalists would put in the investment pool anyway. Better that the tax burden be mostly on the poor and middle-class.

More game saves please. This stuff is great.

This might be the most beautiful video I have ever seen

To balance council republic they have to give all non-council republics a -500 opinion or something, then make the AI work. Because otherwise they'd have to change what communism is and that would be lame. The irl balance to communism is that the forces of capital won't just let you do it. (peacefully transitioning, in a parliamentary debate, from monarchy to actual real life communism is hilarious)

some say worker coops are broken, I say as design *soviet anthem intensifies*

33:59 so you’re telling me the British are trapped on those Godforsaken islands? Good.

Please please play Tawantinsuyu in divergences! It’s got some really interesting challenges starting as a command economy and there’s huge role play potential there. I know divergences is even more flavourless than base vicky3 but fingers crossed for it’s future.

Anarchist Belgium: "Uh, UK, are you going to maintain any ports?" Imperial Britain: "Nah, ports are so last century. We've moved beyond that, man." AB: "Okay, but your economy is a shitshow." IB: "And?" AB: "And you should be building ports to fix that." IB: "But that's _work._ " AB: _inhales slowly_ "Okay, how about you give us -Ports- mouth. We can make ports there, maintain them ourselves, and your people will actually have decent lives." IB: "...Okay _fine._ "

Much like real life, creating an anarchist society is always the best solution. I’m glad Victoria is embracing realism

The reality is that every single economic policy is broken. You just need to know how exploit the mechanics

With a SoL of 40, private healthcare would grant -100% mortality. If the institution was maxed.

I wonder dou, why is Austria popping off in the new patch? I heared france was good because they had a lot of accepted pops. But that is not the case with Austria at all. Anyone got any insight?

>Game called Victoria, representing the immense influence of Britain during that period >British AI decides to tank it's economy by deleting ports to where a different nation becomes number 1 Lmao

based af

Where do you get all the silk from?

Love this Chanel

8:00 the infrastructure is so bad bc you don't have market acces and your railroads don't have supplies so they cant make infrastructure

Deleting ports is a thing the ai just does sometimes it makes playing in a market kind of suck if you don't have a land route to the market capital.

Lovely to see an independent New Africa

30:30 "You really have to wonder why we don't do this in real life." I suspect the reason is that very few companies are going to net a 30-something percent profit margin like your textile mills have, and on some level you can't expand that factory infinitely because you will reach a point where the market becomes saturated with clothing and your profit margin goes down.

I am currently playing a Germany game where I want the Red Army rise. But I can't get rid of the Royalist Leader at all. Am I bound to rng? Because I have 2 Vanguardist Armed Forces Generals with LV5 rank already and I am locked in a revolution into revolution kind of cycle due to Armed Forces demanding Monarchy and Trade Unions wanting Regulatory Bodies. And yes both gets radical enough for a revolution when I try to placate the other.

"Its Belgian time, and then he belgied all over Cesar" -Cesar

My Belgium went full colonialism. As in nearly all of internal Africa was a core part of my nation. So I went from Belgium to a unified Africa. So much manpower and resources.

They should add sub-markets for when the main market is failing. They should've coded it to be able to function this way to begin with, but I somehow doubt it.

This video got shown to me randomely. After some minutes i thiught this guy must me a german xD. And then i saw the channel name. Gutes Video :D

*ANARCHY IN BELGIUM* "Do you sell Miller Lite here?"

Danke schon fur Das cideo

i miss ck3 🥺

AI was probably on high deficit and decided to close ports to reduce government spending. Classic tory move.

Day 2 of asking for a unification of Germany as Baden

That AI deleting ports is a serious bug. I am new to the game and it crashed my economy a few times on different saves. It just seems like all AI do that after a certain amount of time idk why.

Factories producing at reduced output (and not beeing fully staffed) but necessitating full infrastructure usage? Feels like something that should be amended.

Same bug happen to me. I was enjoying my time under France market when they decided to delete all ports and didn't rebuild for years. somebody needs to seriously report this port bug, I already reported too many, cba to do another report honestly

“Est tempus belgarum” - some belgique leader, something like 54 BC

really looks like Bangladesh irl did, minus the anarchic council republic

Did Britan go isolationist?

Well if you must know if you want to know what happens when a nation just maxes out its ability to makes clothes and nothing else you get Bangladesh, if your interested check out their economy history and how their gdp exploded in comparison to pakistan when they were east pakistan

33:48 I think that you can literally never diplomatically vassalize/protectorate any country that has the "Defend the Borders" agenda.

oh no. not belgium

workers of the world, unite!

"We're in the british market and have no access" ...brittain destroyed all ports again, didn't they?

I don't think council republic needs to be rebalanced. Maybe, make it more difficult to get into. But in reality, worker coops are OP. Which is why the capitlaists are so afraid of communism in real life.

New worker coop meta?

Anarquia mama!

Is there a specific mechanic that creates blocs of ideologically similar governments? Every game I play or watch, groups of communist/liberal/monarchic countries emerge from geographically-close nations. This seems pretty consistent but I can’t figure out what exactly causes this.

Huh, I wonder what is causing the port deletion, v. odd. Also I imagine they could struggle to make a proper fix to how OP it is because a lot of the problems that came with socialistic economies was large amounts of opposition diplomatically and also internally, the former contributing a fair amount to the latter as well as contributing to corruption etc. So like a good chunk of the disadvantage was with most of your neighbours and certainly the other powerful nations disliking you and funding your enemies, internally and externally, to the point where the advantages were evened out. I'd imagine that would require a larger rework than what they could easily do, as I feel it is a small flaw in the interest group system essentially flooded open by the sheer industrial potential of the workers. Though that said, I feel it could become much more balanced to tweak numbers, so trade and relations with non council republics is harder, and some tweaks to the numbers of the buildings themselves to make it so it's less insane. Maybe also a temporary penalty to credit limit due to lack of bourgeoise. I feel a decent chunk of the reason why it's so OP is the fact that essentially you can happily take advantage of all it's strengths with little worry, plowing forward towards a more prosperous future with little regard for stability. Which then realistically would again open yourself up to foreign undermining or invasion, or for it all to come crashing down - the last one could still happen though.

Clothes: Now made in Belgium.

Yellow Austria

Anyone notice "New Africa" in the American south? That's a thing that can happen?!

victoria actually got that anarchism is just socialism/communism as its defined by its terminology and NOT by the scammers who co-opted it and completely obscured the meaning. The game also exposes that anarchism is radical democracy thus has no classes and no authoritarianism, thus proving that it is the opposite of all the common known systems like monarchy, fascism, capitalism, leninism which in reality are similiar to each other regarding parasitic autocracy schemes.

China played Victoria in real time. World's factory.

Why don’t you make Victoria 3 videos that aren’t disaster saves. Would like to see your do your own series on the game.

BREXIT MEANS BREXIT AND IF THAT MEANS THAT WE GOTTA BLOW ALL OUR PORTS UP, SO BE IT

Love the content. I was wondering if you could make one of these disaster saves into a fascist country. I have not properly done it myself nor have I sent any one else do it. Thought it could be an interesting experiment

Day 3 of asking for a unification of Germany as Baden

Realistic

i did the clothes/chairs method with my mexico game but then i puppeted the USA which caused half the world the embargo me :( and put me into a death spiral

Thank you OPB!

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Why change from private to public healthcare, when on average everybody is rich with 19SoL ?

My experience with Anarchy in Vicky3 went like this: Me: Hmm, looks like there's quite some support for anarchy, let's try to implement it and see what it's like. Government: Alright then, let's dissolve peacefully and go straight into the happy anarchist future. Anarchists: THERE WILL BE BLOOD!!! For the glory of Anarchy we will terrorize the people! The people: No support for anarchy anymore. Me: Cancels the switch to anarchy. Anarchists: All is fine now, no reason to cause terror any longer. Conclusion: These guys are crazy, not touching anarchy ever again.

Based Victoria 3?

Anarchy op? It's historical

a thing that frustrates me to no end; No, Anarchy does not have Elections for *some fucking reason* when in reality it definitely would still have Referenda and other such Elections even with out a "State" as we currently define it.

Hey, how do you make fascism? Can trade unions be fascist?

ITS NOT ANARCHY! OR COMMUNISM! CO-OP's ARE MARKET-SOCIALISM AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! I know- market socialism is horrible title, its small, and its very hard to self identify. We need a new name.

now THIS is real communism

I hope Paradox doesn’t unrealistically nerf worker coops too hard for the sake of balance and become too right-wing biased

Most communist thing in whole video.. Look at these disappearing rebeles

This is why communism is cool 😎

brudi, was hat dich n känguru gestochen oder wie bist du sonst auf die idee gekommen um 1uhr nachts zuuploaden. Der typ muss doch ein bisschen zu lange am bienenstock genuckelt haben alter.

Anarchy is op, just like in real life

Hahaha, whimstever that someone was that commented about communism "working" has clearly not learned history

Mother Anarchy loves her sons!