All Will Be One triggers off of proliferating your opponent’s counters, too! It doesn’t matter how buff their creatures are or if their sagas flip faster if they’re dead :p

@7:14 punt, you had lethal with all will be one #2 + volt charge to the face with poliferate bank buster.

Our man here trying to figure out how to do a handful of damage with the opponent tapped down, mana to spare, and a couple Foundries just hanging out yelling, "put me in coach, put me in. "

Filigree Sylex would be another option for an alternative sweeper for this deck.

Did seth say “Saffwon Owive” 🥺

You had lethal at 7:15 by animating Mishra's Foundry and casting Volt Charge. Not guaranteed, admittedly; if your opponent had instant speed removal you'd be back to square 1, but you wouldn't be in a worse position than just doing nothing.

I wish they'd given us another colorless or red proliferate spell in ONE. I would've loved a reference to Contagion Clasp/Contagion Engine.

Honestly, I wish more planeswalkers were 'not something you can play in any deck but powerful in the right shell.' In fact, more cards in general should be like that.

I do think the no-mountain hand was a mull and not a keep, but more importantly, I think the deck has too many colorless lands in general. Yes they can be useful and you definitely like the blast zone with all will be one, but you just lose when you don't have enough red sources. I would consider going down to 3 blast zone and 2 foundry, and dropping the sokenzahn too, for 4 more mountains.

Opponent plays Inspiring Overseer in a Standard that is full of Midrange cards and no Angel payoffs: Seth: "They're probably playing Angels."

I think there’s way too many colorless lands, despite it being a mono colored deck. Since it’s more control, you want to double spell later in the game, and it felt like it was awkward

That blast zone lethal at the end of match 1 is just peak mtg as garfield intended

You needed 2 red sources for Brothershood End. I don't think it was a keep, but don't think it's a punt or anything. Probably a bad keep though. Not awful. But kinda bad lol. Love ya Seth.

First seeing koth I thought he was just so disappointed but every time I see someone cast him now he just always puts in so much work

28:13 The opponents reaction to you going off is fantastic haha

FYI if this deck takes off, the current Store Championship winner promo is an alt-art foil Koth going for $27 TCG low as of this video’s posting.

Gosh I don't think I could have kept that. Like, I totally get it, but I've been screwed too many times by "Oh I just need one land of the other color and this hand is PERFECT" It's not the math, it's my paranoia.

One is "I really talked down on this card but it's actually good" the set for the goldfish crew lol Jace, koth, atraxia, the list goes on XD

Keep in mind that you can actually pay mana to untap Staff of Compleation. It didn't matter here as the little damage from the Blast Zone was enough, but you had something like 4 damage over lethal if you went the untap + proliferate instead (in match 3).

This was such a cool deck and video. One of my favorites Seth has ever played!

The no mountain keep wasn't worth it because you needed to hit two mountains, not one; strangle is great and all but brotherhood's end was a requirement for that hand on the draw

Very much reminds me of the Skred Red deck of the pre-Modern Horizons meta of Modern (RIP those days), which was a deck I absolutely loved. Being able to rock 4x mainboard Relic of Progenitus in the heydey of dredge felt soooo good

Okay that was sick. So many good comebacks this video.

Honestly I think Koth is easier to understand and functions better when you consider the +2 as "+2: Draw a card"? Removal on the downtick is really good in mono red, the fact the uptick puts him at 6 and puts cards in hand for your looting effects is really nice, and if you have a board you can ult super quickly and use the uptick to fuel the ult? Not the most powerful walker ever, but definitely not bad!

Nice, I love when opponents inspire you.

This deck just makes me happy. After the printing of new Koth, All Will Be One, and Urabrask's Forge, I have been wanting to build a mono-red proliferate deck for edh.

good to see you finally seeing the light on Koth Seth

Volt Charge is such a good card. Happy to see it do well

Sorta related, but I've been having some success proliferating Geistflame Reservoir in a control shell. Very similar to the old Dynavolt Tower decks from Kaladesh.

At 29:50 you could have also just pay and untap the staff of completion and proliferate again, which was more damage.

Great video Seth! I was thinking of what would be good for off color counterspells for modern and my best bet would be LD with lapse of certainty and mana tithe. Works good with the Boom//Bust and Pillage plan I believe.

I tinkered around with this idea before, without even All Will Be One. In Game 1, for example, when they're at 5, there was also lethal with play AWBO 2 -> volt into proliferate buster = 5 damage. When the opponent was down to 3, you could pay 7 to put 3 counters on blast zone. It's surprisingly versatile as a result of interactions like this. And the power of Koth+ on four, volt and ult on five can sometimes feel like cheating. Light Up The Night is a crazy good card at times (hits thalia for just 2 mana) and can turn Koth's high loyalty into an out-of-nowhere spike, and torch breath in the sideboard can relieve a lot of Ux tempo pressure.

This deck looks reminds me of rabble red, very well fitted to battle mono black devotion. Can eat thought seize and duress easily.

Koth is a good red planeswalker, emphasis on red. I would like to see him in an oops all mountains valakute deck though.

I've been playing Koth in Explorer and loving it! No AWBO, but I get some extra mileage out of it by grabbing Into the Fire to wheel consistently (which is further aided by fetching up mountains) and topping things off with Yidaro and Fiery Emancipation on the high end.

I saw it in Brawl, and it was very fun. The fact that it worked here was cool

I think 4 mishras' foundry is one or two too many, cool deck.

Had a similar idea with Ajani! Built an abzan deck that proliferated and Ajani surprisingly ultimates several times!

Coolest standard deck I’ve seen in so long

25:44 That keep was totally a mistake. I'm not sure what Seth was thinking but a deck that post-board is basically just removal and sweepers should have a pretty good matchup against soldiers, even on the draw.

This deck is actually really fun. I had my doubts. Thought maybe you got lucky in this video. But just tried it, and it is indeed an actually decent and fun deck.

lovely, you go seth!!

Tablet of completion counter for the last tick of damage was really sweet.

The fact that you only need to proliferate Koth once (alongside the initial +2) to ultimate is huge and something I think many of us overlooked initially. I seem to loosely recall some other walkes that ultimated 2 turns after playing, but I'm also recalling that either their ult wasn't a standalone game winner (I think original Garruk might have overrun two turns after playing him?), or their increase ability was +2 so proliferate wouldn't substitute for a whole one (Ugin I think fits here - 9 on the first turn, 11 on the second, then ult - though Ugin would actually work as he only need 3 loyalty above start, so the uptick and a proliferate is perfect). Basically, going to have to have a look through the list of walkers now to see which ones can be done the turn after playing them now, and if their ult is good enough to build around. Fun times. :)

17:49 is that an "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" reference? If so, good stuff sir lol

Seems super interesting

Might be a good idea to pack some threaten effects (e.g. Bloody Betrayal in the current standard) in the sideboard for the Obliterator/Vindicator match up if you're playing mono-red

God I love Big Red Planeswalker decks so much. Big fan.

This is giving the hellraiser deck a run for its money as my favorite All Will be One standard deck

That brutal cathar on the fable 😂

(6-mana Chandra is my favorite Historic Brawl deck, so I play big red control a lot) Honestly, Staff of Compleation looks pretty bad, even when it's good. I think swapping them (at least in the main deck) for another Mountain and either a 3rd Chandra or another removal spell would be better. Maybe it comes in against control, but in any matchup where the opponent is doing damage, you can't expect multiple activations. Unless you curve into Koth and they can't remove counters, so you get the turn-5 emblem, the staff is either win-more, or you could have achieved the same result with another Light Up the Night, which doubles as a serviceable removal spell against aggro.

23:30 Noooo, that keep was so greedy. I don't think a hand with zero castable spells is good enough. XD

Crazy tablet of completion win!

The same happened with the new Jace, it's actually usefull. I guess the missevaluating of 4cmc cards continue.

What did we learn this week - big red lines up well with the meta.

The problem with that keep is you need two red sources for the sweeper and also for key cards like any planeswalker and all will be one. If you change the math to needing two mountains, it’s clearly a mulligan.

That was so many Planeswalkers and triggers in that game 1

Ah, another Koth deck to tempt me before ultimately breaking my heart.

All Will Be One + Blast Zone is like the Punishing Fire combo.

imo the keep at ~23:32 was fine. i probably wouldn't have kept it (because really you want to draw a mountain on your first draw or else it's probably too slow for soldiers when they're on the play, and the probability of drawing it on 1 draw was too low for my to want to risk it), but i don't think it was an unreasonable keep. that said, i do think it is a bit of a fault in deck construction to have so many colorless lands that you run into this problem. especially with koth in the deck. and wanting to cast brotherhood's end on 3 post board.

I built a historic skred red deck with koth. It's actually really good

Another great video brother Set. I really enjoyed it ☺ 😊 😌 😄 🤗 🙂 ☺ 😊. How much is the deck in paper?

I don't think I've heard something as cursed as "monored proliferate control" since the days of "monogreen turns control".

sweet deck

This deck is so much fun to play oh my gosh.

seeing so much planeswalker synergies makes me wish the chainveil was legal in standard

I honestly love the look of koth

17:49 was that... was that an always sunny reference?

Fantastic

Koth has basically the exact same structure as Nahiri the Harbinger, I knew it would be decent in at least a few shells.

Dragonspark Reactor or Geistflame Reservoir plus proliferate gives the deck some additional inevitability.

What a sweet deck

In my head cannon Seth always introduces himself to people he meets irl as “I’m Seth, prooooooobably better known as Saffron Olive)”

You could have attacked in with the foundry a couple times in that first game.

7:12 attack and volt charge for lethal

I feel like there were a lot of times where you could've just used a foundry to attack or block and instead just treated them as colorless lands with no abilities.

I've been maindecking 4x The Stone Brain in nearly every deck just to deal with Obliterators and Rotpriests, both of those cards are truly obnoxious and you'd be surprised how badly it can cripple a lot of other decks.

I Love this deck. Koth is amazing

Needs a fun of Mirrex!

There were multiple games where the Koth/Swamp Lili comparisons were proven incredibly unfair because starting at 4 loyalty and ticking up to 6 has WAY more survivability than 3 loyalty ticking up to 4.

You should always see the upside of things, thats true. And its right that drawing the wrong half of the Deck always looks bad. On the other hand you just disregarded the 50% of certain death if you dont draw a red source. Especially on the draw against an efficient aggressiv deck. Of course you have to calculate first, but are the odds so low to have 2 lands and 5 cards and four of them are fable and interaction? But lets be honest. You love to gamble with such keeps. And we love to watch you enjoy or suffer the consequences. Pls never Change seth, so we wont have too

25:25 Didn't you guys have a podcast about consistency in one's mana base? According to that you wouldn't have kept that hand.

I think cut mishras foundry to reduce colorless lands

The one red proliferate spell is too much for me. I would pair this with Green(three good pro-s) or Blue(GREAT interaction w/ pro effects) for a mythic-tier build.

I think you justified your keep, mathematically of course.

That keep in M2G3 was bad Seth...

In Match 2 you show us the probability. Wouldn't you look at the hypergeo prob instead of the cdf? It seems with every draw you are extracting from the population size. I am not sure and that is why I am asking.

Keep trying to tap and hold on cards to read them, like that will actually do anything

I dont think that hand was super crazy to keep but I personally wouldn't have risked it with only 15 mountains.

I don’t like “hoping to draw a land” because you’re just stuck if you don’t. Regardless of the probability, I don’t like being in top deck mode essentially from turn 0 on

At 19:13, was he actually dead, or just very unlikely to win?

Honestly, I feel like what really makes Koth good in standard is Fable. Any deck running Koth will want to run Fable, and that means that Koth is flexible removal with a good ult and Fable turns the excess mountains into real card draw

How do we port this deck to Modern/Pioneer?

Funny enough, in match 3 game 1, you didnt even have to tick up your blast zone to get the last point of damage: You just had to proliferate their Restoration of Eiganjo All Will be One only cares that YOU are the one putting counters on permanents, not whose permanents are getting the counters

this koth may just might be the mono red lilliana of the dark realms

did seth miss lethal in the first match with 3 to the face and activate mishra

At 25:00 in regards to the greedy keep, I think you're underselling the downside of not drawing a red source -- that is, you do *literally nothing* for 2-3 turns. If not having removal kills you, letting an aggro deck have 2 turns for free is just as bad. Meanwhile, if you go to six, you might be behind on resources (which you already are when you flounder for two turns with a grip full of cards you can't play), but you can also get an almost as good hand that doesn't just flounder waiting on a red source. The London Mulligan is powerful; use it.

It's impressive how often Blast Zone ends the game

I like to call these kinds of decks Clifford, since they're big red decks :p

I think with a roughly 50% chance of not drawing a red source with your opponent already having an advantage, keeping a hand without any red mana is absolutely the wrong line. Like let’s hypothetically say your chances of winning against soldiers on the play is 60/40 in favor of opponent. By keeping a hand with a 50% chance of not doing anything by turn 3 you’ve essentially halved your chances of winning, taking the odds from 60/40 to 80/20. Those are awful odds. Especially when the alternative is to draw a new hand of 7, get rid of the worst card in it, and having the chance to play your cards. Some of which can be 3 for 1s or 5 for 1s