Is Chase Utley a Future Hall of Famer?

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6 ай бұрын

Hot Stove debates whether or not Chase Utley will be a Cooperstown legend one day...what do you think?
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@lucasborja3797 6 ай бұрын

He is, and he is in basically every way except counting stats, one of the best 2nd basemen of all time. Yell all you want when he makes the HoF one day.

@scoutisabelle 6 ай бұрын

But those counting stats are usually what the voters use. They don't vote on players who have a 5-10 year peak, otherwise Mattingly, Murphy and other former stars would get in. Utley may get in eventually, but it won't be until much later on the veterans ballot.

@lucasborja3797 6 ай бұрын

@@scoutisabelle the truth is, the hall of fame makes up criteria as they go, you see one and done’s on the ballot like Kenny Lofton and you think how does anyone make the Hall anyway, if they want counting stats then elect Nick Markakis.

@douglasruckle5007 23 күн бұрын

Jeff Kent was far better than Chase Utley.... Not in sorry no way Chase

@Flyers48 10 күн бұрын

@@douglasruckle5007 Not remotely true. The actual stats show Chase was the clear better player in each of their primes. Utley has 2nd best career OPS in 2B history while being elite defensively. Kent just played a lot longer.

@gabrielv.2647 6 ай бұрын

The only one for sure without a doubt on that list is beltre

@michaelchen1838 6 ай бұрын

Keith more rogaine, less donuts for 2024

@the-phanatic-99 6 ай бұрын

jeff kent also had 9 war lower than Utley mainly do the defense but it should be stated

@gamblingguru2235 6 ай бұрын

Yes!! Think of 2nd basemen, who’s rly any better

@rowdyghost4713 6 ай бұрын

Cano, grich, Kent

@naturallawman2965 6 ай бұрын

Sandberg, Morgan, Hornsby, Biggio. Lots are better than Utley.

@the-phanatic-99 6 ай бұрын

utley is definitely a hall of famer. they mad about the injury. only reason he isn’t a shoe in

@KryMoore 6 ай бұрын

Far from a shoe in. He was better than most but not a Hall of famer.

@lukechalmers71 6 ай бұрын

If you take into account city impact, then yes. The thing is Utley ranks with HoF 2nd basemen. Is he a first ballot guy? No and I say that as a diehard Phillies fan with PLENTY of bias. But maybe down the line.

@the-phanatic-99 6 ай бұрын

but he should be a first ballot guy, great defense, such a consistent and smart player, team impact and total career war of 64.5.

@KryMoore 6 ай бұрын

If you need to look at a players WAR to tell you if they are a Hall of Fame player then you don’t watch baseball.

@lukechalmers71 6 ай бұрын

@@KryMoore valid but compare Utley to Ryne Sandberg. Very very similar numbers with about 1500 less ABs

@KryMoore 6 ай бұрын

@@lukechalmers71 If Ryne had to be inducted in modern times he wouldn’t be in the Hall of Fame. He was ahead of his time at that position but with hindsight he wouldn’t be elected now.

@lukechalmers71 6 ай бұрын

@@KryMoore also valid. Ultimately, I think Utley has a shot down the road, 3-4 years. He is far from a first-ballot guy but is in the conversation. I think injuries held him back and cut his peak short. He did win a ring and is a team staple, even to this day. While that’s not a deciding factor, it’s something to consider as a tiebreaker

@BXMarathoner26 6 ай бұрын

I'm a Mets fan who despises Utley to the point where if he cured any incurable disease i would still Boo that piece of garbage on the street. He's a Hall of Famer, the 5 Peak years and the fact that he was a complete 2nd baseman should get him in considering the position he played.

@joshuapena4449 6 ай бұрын

If Carlos Delgado is not in the HOF then Chase is not a HOFer

@Flyers48 10 күн бұрын

Nah. Utley was easily better in prime and despite far less games has a lot more WAR because he his peak was so much higher.

@michaelchen1838 6 ай бұрын

No. Moving on, stop trying to get him in the hall when he’s not a hall of famer

@Flyers48 10 күн бұрын

His 5 year peak is better than any 2B ever ... but yes its crazy to claim hes a Hall of Famer. He will definitely get in eventually.

@michaelchen1838 8 күн бұрын

@@Flyers48 I guess Jeff Kent’s 9 year peak was bullshit then. Cuz Kent’s better than Utley and he’s still not in the HOF

@ericpantalone5229 6 ай бұрын

Utley isn't a hall of famer...if he's a HOfEr, then so is someone like Johan Santana...You're giving him too much credit for 5 years bookended by mediocrity. I can't wait for the Longoria talk...the bar for HOF talk has dropped immensely.

@the-phanatic-99 6 ай бұрын

64.5 career war vs 51.7, not that close lol

@KryMoore 6 ай бұрын

A pitchers war is compiled differently than a position players war.

@Flyers48 10 күн бұрын

His 5 year peak is arguably greatest 5 year peak of any 2B ever ... and then he was very good for the next 5 years as well but just missed some games.