Is cheaper better? Take the guesswork out of choosing which one is right!

Is cheaper better? Take the guesswork out of choosing which one is right! | BRStv Investigates

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BRStv - Saltwater Aquariums & Reef Tanks

4 жыл бұрын

So, is a cheaper UPS battery backup better? We test some cheaper battery backup options and find out if they can last as long as bigger, more expensive options. Today's video will finally help you decide which backup is right for you and your tank!
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@alsfishbarn1589 4 жыл бұрын

I’m seeing a glimpse of the future and I see a BRS Battery Backup not too far off!

@oakville09 4 жыл бұрын

Al’s Fish Barn I hope you’re right. Probably not a good investment for BRS though.

@zanimal4u 4 жыл бұрын

I use a 600W inverter (from Radio Shack @ $50) and a car battery to drive 500w worth of main pumps for days.. Been my back-up plan for 30+yrs.. Added a Solar Panel to recharge battery during daytimes;) An aternate method as everyone has a car battery generally, so only cost is the inverter and maybe a solar panel battery charger to keep fully charged or during longer periods of a power outage if no car(or leave battery in car so car can recharge battery as needed every several hours per voltage meter).. Also cycling pumps on and off each 1/2 hour will extend duration;) Am a commercial electrician of 35yrs and devised this plan/method yrs ago;) If you want to leave battery in car, you might also need an extension cord to run to tank pumps. I use deep cycle automotive batteries (optima) and will be investing in a larger 1000w inverter (Dewalt tools @ Hm D:) to drive all main pumps on 300gal multi-tank system and room for one 300w in-line heater for next time. I can use inverter also in my work truck aswell or for tools/construction site;) Voltage x Amps = Watts, Watts ÷ volts = Amps. For sizing.. Update: Wouldn't you know, A day after this post my power dropped-out. Went to Hm D and bought that new Dewalt 1000 watt Inverter @ $156. With both inverters am able to drive my two main tank pumps and 2x300w heaters & closed loop pump and maintain 300gal system with no home furnace heating in Winter, CYA/CMA - cover ur assets;) Power just came back on a bit ago, so now time to disconnect inverters from our Jeep's battery and roll up the extension cords;) Have two vehicles to tap if needed and an extra optima battery;) Tip: AGM type batteries work best for most solar recharging equiptment..

@TOMReefer 4 жыл бұрын

Ol'skool Reefer I use a deep cell with a power inverter also. I can run my entire 20 gallon nano “ everything” for 10 hours. The small UPS’s here are a waste.

@rdeys 4 жыл бұрын

If you are using all your stock AC equipment during the outage these are decent options. But most reefers similar to what shown here, only runs power head and /or return during outage. For such use case (limited equipment) a straight 12v dc output to power 12v dc submersible pump or/and air stone will do much better. You don’t need inverter at all., and can also hook up solar panels to it. Great video :-) . Thank you for sharing

@billyfarah1160 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent work guys! I know creating these tests and videos is a lot of work but... It would be awesome if you took it 1 step further and put a common 4' tank with a setup like DX18, 3 A360X's, Reef Octopus Classic 150INT and some kind of return pump on these UPSs. Reefers will be more apt to support an entire ecosystem if possible opposed to just the pumps. DISCLAIMER, those are the products that I'm using but I chose them from lots of research and advice on R2R. I see it as a very common and simple setup. You guys rock!

@anizato 19 күн бұрын

I see they are very focused on pushing their ecotech battery like if everyone has ecotech pumps. How does it work with a Syncra Silent, or an MJ pump for example? What about heating? Why is heating not part of this series. We are constantly reminded of how important temperature is and how we are even suggested to get a controller and a backup heater for redundancy but 13hrs of no power and all we care about is the wavemaker? How about an air pump? How long does the Ecotech battery run on a regular non-fancy pump, heaters ( of varying wattage ) and an air pump? How do the UPS's do with those other devices?

@olliesshopautos9327 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! Now I need to decide whether to buy the Ecotech battery backup & booster cable or make my own backup system.

@catatonickuala 2 жыл бұрын

A few brands make mains powered oxygen pumps these days with built in lithium ion batteries that can function as a backup when the power goes out. They only last for about 15 hours but can also be recharged from USB battery packs. It will probably cover most outages, and you can always plug in a large external USB battery pack to them if you are going away for a while. It's not as cheap as agitating the surface yourself with a whisk, but it's a lot cheaper than some of the rip-off alternatives.

@andrew5762 2 жыл бұрын

Top man many thanks Randy 😄👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

@StNovaSt 4 жыл бұрын

The test I wanted to see. Finally. Do the sine wave vs non sine wav UPS with DC pumps please. Need to know if I can leave my DC return pump on the UPS without damage.

@MerkDolf 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for looking at Ah too bad you had to open some UPS to see what the actual battery Ah.

@larryloaf4938 4 жыл бұрын

What would be interesting would be to try running the big ones at 10% output usage

@TheDancing0wind 4 жыл бұрын

There is one diy option if you REALLY want to run off the shelf UPS - DIY direct tap to dc battery. Drill a hole in enclosure and add a dc jack connected directly to the battery. connect pumps you want to back up directly to this DC jack. Recommended that UPS be smart enought to shutdown if it does not sense any power consumption on output sockets. Effectively UPS will behave like glorified battery tender.

@MrJiliman 2 жыл бұрын

I bought cyberpower CP900AVR but it is not recommended to use it wit sump pump by its manual

@tomsteward8925 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, for breaking down the amp hour raring of the back-up solutions. Is there a plug adapter for Ecotech pumps to plug in something like a 12 volt LiFePO4 battery? Seems like the Echotech backup solution is the obvious choice over DIY (just not as fun).

@jpguppy08 4 жыл бұрын

You could have used the killawatt to measure the whole backup wattage. This would show how much power the inverters are using as well as the pump and should more directly correlate to how fast the batteries deplete.

@rdeys 4 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Phillips or hookup a Kasa powerstrip to it which will provide the current draw and also gives you an ability to individually turn them on/off

@TripedalTroductions 4 жыл бұрын

If I had it my way I would use a Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator

@brandonezdoofenshmirtz2916 4 жыл бұрын

What powerhead is being used and what is the wattage?

@johnm.kimpel8876 3 жыл бұрын

I don't seem to see much consideration of portable power supplies (for instance products from Jackery). Wouldn't such devices provide power longer and give one more time to switch to generator power?

@matthewrinaudo8582 4 жыл бұрын

What results would you get from the back up if you had more equipment hooked up allowing you to be using a high percentage of the battery making it more efficient.

@rdeys 4 жыл бұрын

Matthew Rinaudo it will be better overall, with higher utilization your efficiency will go up , but so is the runtime(amp hour/ watts) ,, the actual overall runtime will depend on the exact workload (total power draw) and the size of the ups.so you are likely to have different ups working best for different set of workloads

@vicluu8026 Жыл бұрын

What if we run both return pump and 300w heater (@77F) using those backup batteries. I think it is a lot more realistic situation when the power fails.

@BRStv Жыл бұрын

Ultimately, these battery backups (and most battery backups) aren't going to be suitable for high power draw items like heaters. If you're looking to keep an aquarium heater going on a back up, then a generator is going to be a better choice in most cases.

@brood8941 4 жыл бұрын

What if you had a heater and pump on them would that make it more efficient since it would pull more wattage?

@BRStv 4 жыл бұрын

Hmmm...not sure to be honest. It's likely that any heater, even a small one, would eat through a battery like this pretty quickly with the amount of power they draw.

@juggalizzle75 2 жыл бұрын

All your tests have to do with flow which is important but what about heat? Heaters require so much more wattage. Or does it matter less? We had a winter storm last night while I'm on vacation. The apex alerted me that it lost power and when it came back my temps were 68 degrees in about 4 hours.

@BRStv 2 жыл бұрын

Heat is tricky because heaters draw so much more power. If you're going for temperature control in a power outage situation (heater or chiller, depending on the season and where you live), then you're almost certainly going to have to use a generator instead. That is, unless you have a whole home battery or backup power solution in place.

@newzombie1 4 жыл бұрын

Just to clarify the only thing that should be plugged into these "batteries" are the power heads and return pump?

@oakville09 4 жыл бұрын

Leonel Mondragon anything can be plugged in. But all you really should plug in are the power heads. Otherwise it won’t last nearly as long. You’ll be fine without the return pump going as long as there is water movement.

@wmn9999 4 жыл бұрын

Does anyone know of a UPS that has software that will send you an email that it has turned on ? I also have a UPS on my home network so it would be able to stay up for an hour or so.

@BRStv 4 жыл бұрын

Not aware of one, but that would be very nice! Maybe you could use some sort of smart outlet for this purpose.

@ricardocarneiro7797 4 жыл бұрын

The ecotech battery backup is a £30 battery with a lid being sold for £170 LoL

@lebryantjohnson7306 4 жыл бұрын

😂

@lovermansmith9082 4 жыл бұрын

Yea , but it's nice that it turns down the pump to 20% power & the auto on

@larryloaf4938 4 жыл бұрын

Why does it work so much better?

@lovermansmith9082 4 жыл бұрын

@@larryloaf4938 Not sure exactly . Do you have a relay on your system or some thing that automatically switches to battery back up ?

@ricardocarneiro7797 4 жыл бұрын

@@lovermansmith9082 for £170 you can have 5 batteries and run it at 100% and still keep £20 in your pocket. Obviously this is just to make the point that still not worth the stinger £170 price tag imo.

@zsxking 4 жыл бұрын

For DC pump that run on 12V power supply, the best way will probably be getting a 12V battery for laptop and connect it in between the pump and its power supply.

@zsxking 4 жыл бұрын

But unfortunately there seems to be no good option for 24v. The ones I can find have output from 29v-21v. And at 29v, the pump won't power on at all.

@TheDancing0wind 4 жыл бұрын

@@zsxking for voltage - there are cheap dc voltage regulator boards from aliexpress and ebay - work great (I'm using in my setup to fix battery backup output to 24V - works fine without it but I'm not taking chances and besides ... had one laying around :) ) Also Vortech emergency jack accepts 12V, tunze pumps accept both. (that is why they run at half the power max). also more powerful UPS have 2 batteries connected in series - there is your 24V option - granted even bigger ones have even more so you cannot tap all batteries at once on 1 jack. Also side note: 2 12V 7Ah batteries in series = 1 24V 7Ah battery, not 14Ah