Good assessment, as if all the others are less scum!

Matt Smith - "Daemons loyalty for him is his brother, and his wife, and his offspring, dragon, bloodline, , that is it... Everything else is up for grabs"

Without his dragon he loses his identity

It’s hard to tell since Fire & Blood is written like an in-world history book. That’s why I really enjoy the show because we’re seeing the actual POVs of the people involved instead of just hearing an account from a Maester using sometimes conflicting sources.

The difference is that Tywin was machiavellian and Daemon was impulsive. Daemon would never have enough patience for the machinations needed to pull off something like the Red Wedding. I think that's why we generally think of cold schemers as being more "evil" than violent hotheads like Daemon, it's because they are more dangerous and can apply their psychopathy more effectively due to their patience and cunning. Also, I think that characters that act on their emotions, good or bad, are more compelling to us than those cold, calculating ones. I find Tywin to be an infinitely more disgusting character for these reasons

I don't see them as the same at all. Tywin only cared about the family name, not the family. Hell, he even disowned Jaime when he refused to leave the Kingsguard after losing his hand. Daemon on the other hand loved his actual family members, Viserys and Rhanyra, but I don;t see much evidence that he gave a crap about the family name. One loves abstractions, the other loves people.

Twyin tried to have tyrion killed for nothing. He was evil

Tywin abused the hell out of Tyrion though. Daemon is just a loose cannon, not a deliberate schemer like Tywin.

@@natedogg890 They both have the same level of evil in them, but Daemon is just more inept-evil and stupid. I prefer evil characters who perform their actions with sense, aiming to be efficient and effective. I find it's more disgusting to see characters who are willing to commit the same horrid actions but cannot be efficient and effective, resulting in unjustifiable means.

I mean, he murdered his wife though 🤷 Like, he does the occasional good thing, and he's a phenomenal character, but that's not particularly lawful

@@Dasycottus Rhaenyra wanted vengeance, she gave Daemon the “look” and he knew what he has to do. He also wanted to do it, not only for the sake of pleasing Rhaenyra, but also for the sake of hurting the Hightowers. It was what Rhaenyra wanted (to kill Aemond), it is what Daemon wanted according to his desire for vengeance and it is also what they needed to do in order to deal a devastating blow to the Hightowers. But let’s not forget that Daemon did this after what Aemond did. That’s why he said “an eye for an eye, a son for a son”. It didn’t mattered if it was Aemond or Jahaerys: in Daemons twisted mind, the death of either was lawful, because it was fair for the death of Luke. That’s why he’s lawful evil: he doesn’t commit evil acts for the sake of evil or madness, but because he thinks it’s what’s necessary to protect his family, to hurt his enemies and to bring him closer to the Iron Throne.

You got that the other way around. Daemon is neutral evil while Larys is lawful evil.

*according to maesters and mushroom. Maybe in the books it happened in the same way?

​@@movieverse2626 bruh, You really think Blood and Cheese could kill Aemond Targaryen, even if they wanted to? Gods, you're just dëlüsïœnal.

​@Papaty25 This is actually a great point. Daemon wouldn't be stupid enough to think two bozos stood a chance at killing Aemond. It's one of many bizarre changes that ruined the entire "Blood and Cheese" sequence for me.

@@SolarDragon007 Exactly.

They made Daemon look bad in a show by making him kill his wife too. Idk what books you read but Mysaria hired the blood and cheese and not Daemon. He only asked her to hire and orchestrate on his behalf, son for a son got misinterpreted in message.

A serial killer who targets only children and women would be gray if someone wants to view said person that way. So all this black gray white stuff isn't a big deal. Its a spectrum, only the people at the very ends get to not be called grey, every one else is grey. Its the norm. ASOIAF universe barely have Dark Lord type of characters, just like real life.

@@rexibhazoboa7097 mmm again in alignments, you are evil if you enjoy torture of people, you are neutral if you enjoy the torture of people that have wrong you and you are good if in general you don't enjoy it at all. I think Daemon is neutral, is just about what benefits him.

Not the best video

I don't think so Mrs. BookfreakyLady.

Daemon knew, he wouldn't be alive after the dragon battle with Aemond. He just did what was possibly the best option. He took down Aemond along with himself.

He could’ve asked Nettles to join him or try to wait. I think Daemon was tired of living. At this point he lost too much & lived too long. Better to die in glorious battle against the monster was Aemon for the blacks than living.

Selfishly

Daemon never died

@@ReturnOfChef WTF? Is he immortal or something?

He also does what he believes will help protect or strengthen his family like Maegor did, at least with the family members he actually cares about.

Maegor is like a Targaryen’s Tywin

Yeah, Ramsay went to far about too insignificant stuff, Daemon, so far, did not (in the TV series).

There’s nothing easy or cheap about it. The way Fire and Blood is written reflects the way actual history books were created. Perspective matters, oftentimes even more than facts, and some would even argue that facts do not exist and we only have more or less accurate interpretations.

Nah

Elric of Melnebione? Nah more like a human version on his Cousin Yrkoon.

@@DevonMostert-kk2et i actually agree

They want him to be evil as the devil on Rhaenrya shoulders but recognize we cannot make him completely evil because they are scared of what viewers gonna say. That why I hate television over books because showrunners are concerned about viewerships leaving where authors just do it.

So true, they really make Daemon a sweetheart by showing him choking his wife, being responsible for the murder of a child, and murdering his first wife. True whitewashing, am i right?

I see ppl say this but then the fan base acts otherwise with the way they hate him

Remaking it and will publish soon!

@@ValaritasYT waiting for it!'!

Loyal in that he never betrayed him for the throne and sought his approval. But he did undermine his authority when and where it suited him.

True and what’s crazy in Fire and Blood they portray him as a bad guy he is but it’s called anti hero cause he not all bad that’s why i say fire and blood aren’t true it’s just based on what mushroom and the maesters said it was mentioned the maesters hated rhaenyra so it’s possible they was was just makin up things to ruin her image me personally I don’t think daemon is bad tbh

@@latj16x I'd argue he's worse than any man in Prison in my country haha but his charisma is what sells him, I don't think he could do much to make people hate him.

@@traviscue2099 where do you live? people in prison, in my country have killed and gRape. My cousin just went to visit his girlfriend then he was found dead by 11 shots, nobody saw what happened.

@@rowanjoy419 Deamon has murdered so many innocent people 😅

@@traviscue2099 I know so how is that worse, also this medieval times not today, am just saying that your comment is weird to me, that is all

Who said he was wrong?

People keep repeating this like trained birds. Anyone who's read the book can see Daemon's light side if they have a brain. 1.) He's beloved by the smallfolk. He spends time with them, drinks with them, and made King's Landing safer for them. He took the City Watch, a band of loosely-organized, poorly-equipped men with cudgels, and he turned them into a proper police force that could take pride in their position and maintain order in the city. 2.) He's far more competent than Viserys, and he realistically deserves to be king in his place. Paddy Considine's performance and HotD's writing make many people forget that Viserys in the book is an irresponsible idiot with few redeeming qualities who really shouldn't have been king in the first place. In contrast, Daemon is active and decisive. 3.) He takes personal initiative to clean up the Stepstones, saving thousands of Westerosi from enslavement or brutal deaths, and preventing the commandeering of valuable ships and their cargo. 4.) He is willing to work very hard for what he wants, and he will personally put himself at risk to achieve it. Most people are as bad at moral calculations as they are mathematical ones. If someone cures cancer and saves millions of lives, but then murders a child, people would call them a bad person, as though a single bad act outweighs any amount of goodness. It doesn't. You get credit for your good qualities and actions just as well as your bad ones. Daemon is exactly as George described him: light and dark in equal parts.

@@AstaraBrightwingas Stannis said, “A good act does not wash away the bad, nor the bad the good.”

@@greenknightofwar7024 Words of wisdom.

​@@AstaraBrightwing Well, Daemon in the books may have been a better King than Viserys, but from what we see in the show, it makes me feel he wouldn't have been the best king either Especially if he hates being at court

@@AstaraBrightwing When we compare your 1-2 vague "good side examples" vs the horrible deeds Daemon did (what we literally saw in show and in that video), make it clear that Daemon is %90 a bad person %10 good. Also Hitler is loved by "smallfolk" and got %34 from the elections do you think he has made of light and darkness in equal parts? lol

I agree

Because they think he's hot 😂

He was The Doctorrrr

Because he’s a great character. Not hard to understand 😂

​@@johnjoseph6874As a fictional character yes he's great but as a person he's an a***le.

He is the loudest and freest character of the show, does what he wants, says what he thinks. He got big mouth and he walks the talk. GRRM loves him for that matter. Some people that hate Daemon, claim to love Criston Cole or Otto Hightower.

That the show lol & the show version is boring lol. There a reason this book series & it lore a best seller. There a reason Martin is celebrated as one of greatest celebrated character writers in fantasy. They choose the most boring options for him, Ser Criston, Larys Strong.

@@darriusbethea2373 boring option? criston cole and larys? what exactly r u saying

Daemon is undoubtedly an evil power hungry man, but a great character considering his actions in the story.

That a show only only thing lol

lol, defending those brutal actions instead of expecting "less brutal" punishments say a lot of you. You should live rest of your life in a country ruled by Islamic sharia, you will be very happy ;)

*Without a Trial*. Only the gods know how many innocent men were killed by the City Watch that night.

​@@Papaty25The showrunners intentionally chose to depict the scene that way to make Daemon seem more evil. In the book he is beloved by the smallfolk, particularly for cleaning up the streets of crime.

@@SolarDragon007 if it was in real life, it'd be a sad event. *We can let a hundred criminals escape but we can never punish an innocent man.*

@Papaty25 My point was that the showrunner/writers _chose_ to portray it that way. In the source material, the smallfolk love Daemon because he beefed up the Gold Cloaks and cracked down on violent crime. Condal and the other writers chose to depict it as being way more sketchy/morally questionable than what the book told us.

Or because we are whovians

coward??? WOULD YOU LIKE TO LEARN HIS "THE BRAVEST" ACT??? OR DO YOU ALREADY KNOW???

@@KhalkedonYT he's a cutthroat who hired two ratcatcher cutthroats to kill aemond instead of going himself and also he told them to kill the baby if they didn't find aemond so

@@DarklotusDD2 he didn't say such a thing. It was Blood & Cheese's fault.

@@KhalkedonYT but he did because when cheese had helena blood came and said (a son for a son he said does she look like a son to you)

​@DarklotusDD2, so you don't know how it ends