Is Harry Maguire Being Forced Out?

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11 ай бұрын

‪@RoryJenningsFootball‬ & ‪@Buvey‬ look at Erik ten Hag's decision to strip Harry Maguire of the captaincy and whether his position as part of the squad is becoming increasingly untenable.
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@dave93x
@dave93x 11 ай бұрын
Buvey trying his best to keep Maguire at United is all you need to know
@user-gp6cc8jj6d
@user-gp6cc8jj6d 11 ай бұрын
😂
@anandmahamuni5442
@anandmahamuni5442 11 ай бұрын
Wouldn't matter he isn't starting
@livingstonekimani6943
@livingstonekimani6943 11 ай бұрын
Exactly... This Buvetly guy is hilarious 😂😂😂
@dipankardebnath2975
@dipankardebnath2975 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely 😂😂😂
@spacetime3
@spacetime3 11 ай бұрын
you buy him Buvey
@ThatBlackGuy1616
@ThatBlackGuy1616 11 ай бұрын
I’m with Rory on this one, as strange as that is to say. The 2nd leg against Sevilla was the nail in his coffin. Ten Hag has shown nothing but support in public but in private he’s made it clear that Harry’s not part of the future and he’s gotta move on. He’s probably good enough to start for the likes of West Ham, Villa or Brighton but he needs to regain some confidence cause when he confident, he can be a really solid center half
@zombieruler9724
@zombieruler9724 11 ай бұрын
Come on, everyone sensible saw what de gea did to put Maguire on the edge every single time. What's Maguire supposed to do when the rettard behind him can't see 2 markers on Maguire and still passes it to him
@olavjorvik94
@olavjorvik94 11 ай бұрын
Don’t get into that Brighton team. Absolutely no chance. They way they play the ball around at the back? No chance. Not happening.
@sbs330
@sbs330 11 ай бұрын
@@zombieruler9724 Maguire had enough time to make a decent pass. He even signal to de gea that he wanted the ball and by doing that harry must had calculated the risk of recieving it. there was nothing wrong with the pass it was just horrible ball control. Big teams do it all the time De gea played the ball because he could see harry had enough time to pass it on
@ThatBlackGuy1616
@ThatBlackGuy1616 11 ай бұрын
@@zombieruler9724 I agree, De Gea did not make it easy on him whatsoever, but I think his lack of poise under pressure is something that Ten Hag doesn’t like about him and whether it was his fault or not, in the moment he too got exposed
@ThatBlackGuy1616
@ThatBlackGuy1616 11 ай бұрын
@@olavjorvik94 Yeah I guess Brighton was a bit of a stretch considering the type of ball they play. Certainly West Ham or Everton, a club of that ilk would be perfect for Maguire
@g.g.baxter4868
@g.g.baxter4868 11 ай бұрын
Buvey: Im not saying hes better than Rio Ferdinand Also Buvey: He'd be West Ham's best defender since Bobby Moore Someone should really tell him Rio played for West Ham
@darrylbrookes2780
@darrylbrookes2780 11 ай бұрын
that says it all the mans a troll
@Awkd
@Awkd 11 ай бұрын
Rio was a kid at West ham & wasn't at his best ...
@g.g.baxter4868
@g.g.baxter4868 11 ай бұрын
@@Awkd Wasnt at his best but good enough for Leeds to pay a club record for him and played well enough for him to win player of the season. Still, the point i was making was to point out the irony it what Buvey was saying.
@Awkd
@Awkd 11 ай бұрын
@@g.g.baxter4868 & Maguire was good enough for united to blow 80mil on him lol . The money argument doesn't really work .
@g.g.baxter4868
@g.g.baxter4868 11 ай бұрын
@@Awkd Ive not said Maguire isnt a top player though. He was outstanding for Leicester so the price was relatively fair at the time, you pay what a player is worth at the time, you cant predict the future and the Maguire going to West Ham, if, will be worth 20-40m not 80m. My point is two fold, one it was more of a joke than anything, pointing out the irony of what Buvey Said. Two, if we do look at it from a more serious perspective. Im not certain you can say Rio, who player 127 times in 6 seasons for West Ham, won player of the season, wasnt at a level where you would consider him a better player than Maguire now. I sincerely hope Maguire kicks on, But your picking that Rio for 127 games over this Maguire for 127 games
@rysie-fire
@rysie-fire 11 ай бұрын
He likes Maguire because they’ve got the same head 🤯
@itsneel2898
@itsneel2898 11 ай бұрын
''The enemy of my enemy is my friend'' - Buvey
@ameer_saban
@ameer_saban 11 ай бұрын
Buvey criticises Antony for being average and costing 90m but changes his tune with Maguire saying it’s his not his fault he cost 80m and he’s a fantastic footballer.
@stuartmiller8868
@stuartmiller8868 11 ай бұрын
Because one’s English and one’s Brazil it’s the same as the media
@Infernus25
@Infernus25 11 ай бұрын
Definitely noticed that hypocrisy as well
@Reypstraptor4269
@Reypstraptor4269 11 ай бұрын
Why do you guys still write about Buveys takes when everybody knows he is a wind up merchant? You wouldnt be writing a comment if he gave a logical reasonable take.
@joshdawson5850
@joshdawson5850 11 ай бұрын
Antony thinks he’s the bee’s knees… Maguire was a victim of poor strategy, and will thrive for a low block.
@DrainYouOut
@DrainYouOut 11 ай бұрын
@@joshdawson5850 are you talking about the Harry Maguire that claimed he "can't remember losing a game for Manchester United" and has nothing to prove at the top level. He's a fucking joke
@e.a6851
@e.a6851 11 ай бұрын
I thought buvey was trolling at the beginning like he usually does but he was ACTUALLY being serious. Wow!
@ravhirani2660
@ravhirani2660 11 ай бұрын
Loool he is trust me "high caliber quality" 😂
@azfar333
@azfar333 11 ай бұрын
6:17 “One of us is making a pig’s ear of this” It is BUVEY. Have you guys actually watched the fear in Adam McKola’s eyes whenever United are defending and Maguire is there? Goodness gracious… 😂
@mrsswindon
@mrsswindon 11 ай бұрын
there is a reason united fans hate maguire the most because we have seen him play more than other fans.
@bujubee9757
@bujubee9757 11 ай бұрын
​@@mrsswindonfacts.
@Stegibbon
@Stegibbon 11 ай бұрын
There's no feeling in the world like looking at the team sheet and seeing De Gea and Maguire both on it. It's like your chest drops out through your arse.
@mrsswindon
@mrsswindon 11 ай бұрын
@@Stegibbon Literally every single united fan will understand the anxiety that comes with having Maguire on your team. It's crazy how much of a difference it made just in terms of how it made you feels, when varane and martinez were playing. even after that liverpool game, i would always feel comfortable watching us defend. Our defence last season was first class and might in the future become underrated. i think it's like 40% of our goals conceded were socred againt us in like 4 of our worst matches (or something like that) which is really really good.
@beatzguy
@beatzguy 11 ай бұрын
Maguire is not good enough for United. Ten Hag is doing the right thing here
@sharktoe8358
@sharktoe8358 11 ай бұрын
Spot on
@Rory-ed2rl
@Rory-ed2rl 11 ай бұрын
Buvey: “Maguire is awful your team is crap” Also Buvey: “Maguire is a top class CB”
@mtho3509
@mtho3509 11 ай бұрын
@@Rory-ed2rl seems like he legit just saying this for the topic
@unitedfootbal
@unitedfootbal 11 ай бұрын
kzfaq.infozgYWavOA2tE?feature=share yesssss
@KTRIGGZMEDIAOFFICIAL
@KTRIGGZMEDIAOFFICIAL 11 ай бұрын
He needs to stay, we need the entertainment
@hxrry_cs
@hxrry_cs 11 ай бұрын
So when De gea is told to play with the ball at his feet which he is bad at he is called terrible, but when maguire is told to play a way hes not good at according to the Minecraft character on the right it isn't maguires fault that he is 5th choice centre back.
@mrrahin10
@mrrahin10 11 ай бұрын
BANG ON! They make excuses when theyre english
@nkosingizwileshongwe8081
@nkosingizwileshongwe8081 11 ай бұрын
@@mrrahin10 so true
@vibangigan5336
@vibangigan5336 11 ай бұрын
I mean dude he pushes up too far and loses the ball and when dispossessed then stumbles and lags getting back on defense leading to Shaw to slide into his position. He doesn’t communicate well with the rest of the back line or the Keeper. Overall the manager gave him chances and he failed him. Being English has nothing to do with it if anything he was afforded more chances because of it l.
@hmzmh2020
@hmzmh2020 11 ай бұрын
Maguire is definitely Buvey's favourite cousin.
@Oku017
@Oku017 11 ай бұрын
Honestly
@slymear
@slymear 11 ай бұрын
slabhead.2
@livechesstoday
@livechesstoday 11 ай бұрын
Maguire football= Buvey's football analysis.
@e.a6851
@e.a6851 11 ай бұрын
That's actually a good point, plus they lookalike
@DhonavenAlva
@DhonavenAlva 11 ай бұрын
As a Villa fan, that's shocking. I would've taken Maguire when we were battling relegation, but not now. Ming, Torres, Konsa, all ahead of Maguire
@Ninoshusband18
@Ninoshusband18 11 ай бұрын
As a west ham fan, I'd rather keep Ogbbona than spend 10 mil on magurie
@robertdavies9014
@robertdavies9014 11 ай бұрын
5th Choice you forgot Carlos .
@Ninoshusband18
@Ninoshusband18 11 ай бұрын
@Jimbob960 they both crap, would rather not spend money on an equally bad option
@A.0G.
@A.0G. 11 ай бұрын
Deffo not mings 😂 mings is absolutely awful he gives a goal to the opposition every other game 1 of the worst cbs in the league in my opinion but konsa and Torres are definitely better maguire deffo doesn’t make in to villas team
@A.0G.
@A.0G. 11 ай бұрын
@Jimbob960 he’s not insane or anything but maguire is awful he’s deffo better than maguire
@jarvismarvis8900
@jarvismarvis8900 11 ай бұрын
He’s had plenty off chances mate he’s not good enough
@rLxJake
@rLxJake 11 ай бұрын
Buvey saying “He’s a fantastic Center Half…” then why don’t city sign him? Hell we should give him to them on a free.
@mtho3509
@mtho3509 11 ай бұрын
Apparently Pep tried to buy him
@YellowMouse998
@YellowMouse998 11 ай бұрын
Here we see somebody who takes quotes out of context.
@Iamwhatyousayiam
@Iamwhatyousayiam 11 ай бұрын
Buvey is professional troll
@notdenzelthefrog3955
@notdenzelthefrog3955 11 ай бұрын
​@@YellowMouse998no, cuntvy verbatim said that.
@Boyd2ubaikie
@Boyd2ubaikie 11 ай бұрын
He's very good in deep block
@1977Suspiria
@1977Suspiria 11 ай бұрын
Yes. It's been Ten Hag's method the whole time. Doesn't say it with words but makes it abundantly clear in actions that you aren't in the plans.
@hovis1st
@hovis1st 11 ай бұрын
Oh so when Ten Hag doesn't uses his words and lets his actions speak for himself he's a genius, but when I do it I'm just being autistic. smh
@jh4892
@jh4892 11 ай бұрын
Proper snake behaviour
@1977Suspiria
@1977Suspiria 11 ай бұрын
@@hovis1st Literally nobody said he's a genius at all. So many of you football fans I think have mental issues, you just create narratives & trigger yourselves for literally no reason. It worked out for him with Ronaldo & De Gea though, nobody can say otherwise. It doesn't take a genius to work out that making it clear to De Gea that he's not in his long-term plans at any stage during last season when you need him for the remainder of the season would've been a silly move, of course he was going to want to keep him sweet.
@hovis1st
@hovis1st 11 ай бұрын
@@1977Suspiria It's a joke, calm down boss
@1977Suspiria
@1977Suspiria 11 ай бұрын
@@jh4892 Unapologetically ruthless, which is the case with 90% of the greatest managers. This is elite sport, no room for sentiment.
@Mofa.87
@Mofa.87 11 ай бұрын
As a United fan. Rory, you are making %100 sense
@p-gera4045
@p-gera4045 11 ай бұрын
Maguire with England plays in a back 5 with two defensive midfielders in front of him. When he plays in a back 4 with only one defensive minded midfielder in front he is found out. Southgate’s cautiousness in big games makes maguire look far better than he actually is
@nadeemlakhi9206
@nadeemlakhi9206 11 ай бұрын
Sure, united should play a 7-3-0-0 formation to accommodate this waste of oxygen
@thammysarchive18902
@thammysarchive18902 11 ай бұрын
Buvey is peak waffling 😂😂😂
@Cholo5412
@Cholo5412 11 ай бұрын
Buvey is CRAZY 😂
@albinmejzini74
@albinmejzini74 11 ай бұрын
He's clearly trolling. No way he would ever defend a united player if he didn't also believe they were crap.
@williampthomas6100
@williampthomas6100 11 ай бұрын
Maguire is somewhere in the middle I think for a top side he’s no where near good enough. But if he’s on a team that sits back 70% of the time where he can just head the ball and make clearances he’s serviceable. It is mad he still gets in over tomori for England.
@michaelboiteau9890
@michaelboiteau9890 11 ай бұрын
The thing I will say about tomorrow is its the manager having favourites more than anything but tomorrow is not like for like to harry, very different cbs
@rise_of_the_footsoldier
@rise_of_the_footsoldier 11 ай бұрын
Everton or west ham
@michaelboiteau9890
@michaelboiteau9890 11 ай бұрын
@@rise_of_the_footsoldier easily west ham. Everton don't got the cash
@maxwellsplash970
@maxwellsplash970 11 ай бұрын
Any tall cb in any league in the world could that.
@pietrovitale9940
@pietrovitale9940 11 ай бұрын
as an Ac Milan fan I must also saythat Tomori did not have a great season in 22/23, especially in the first half that is when Southgate made his decision. Hopefully he'll come back stronger next season and hopefully he will still be ignored by England, I don't want another Maignan situation where he gets injured every time while playing for the national team
@kurt5079
@kurt5079 11 ай бұрын
Funny how Buvey slates Maguire calling him crap for so long but now decides he is suddenly a top CB now that it fits his current narrative.
@JoeSmith-br4qx
@JoeSmith-br4qx 11 ай бұрын
Exactly! He calls him a brilliant centre back but then says he’d be perfect for West Ham as opposed to a top club like United. Buvey could be the death of this show.
@dabbigailwilliams
@dabbigailwilliams 11 ай бұрын
Buvey is so good at shifting goalposts lmao
@jakobberg2004
@jakobberg2004 11 ай бұрын
Rory have never been more spot on
@EthanG298
@EthanG298 11 ай бұрын
Maguire won't need to take a massive wage cut to move clubs. This is why man utd sell players for such low transfer fees, because the player doesn't reduce their wages so the buying club pays a low fee to compensate the massive wage cost
@taylor_m_237
@taylor_m_237 11 ай бұрын
Sure but he has also been horrible so what is the transfer gonna be 12mil?
@kennethbruce-tagoe9251
@kennethbruce-tagoe9251 11 ай бұрын
I'm still waiting for a manager in the premiership to actually come out and say they'd like to sign Maguire........simply put, if he's that good for England, why doesn't anyone want him
@shivvohra3398
@shivvohra3398 11 ай бұрын
Very poor logic, how many managers come out and say they want a player publicly? No manager in the premiership has said he wants Haaland, does that mean he’s not a good footballer? There are numerous factors associated with Maguire such as wages.
@kennethbruce-tagoe9251
@kennethbruce-tagoe9251 11 ай бұрын
@shivvohra3398 Haaland is not for sale....we can't get anyone to buy Maguire....and yes, you are right about the wages...no one in his right mind will pay him 200k per week
@chuckles471
@chuckles471 11 ай бұрын
He's that fantastic, that the only real offer is a loan deal. Even with Untied desperate to get rid of him, no club is willing to put any money in for him. That says it all.
@callumsmith7014
@callumsmith7014 11 ай бұрын
Almost every team in the league last year had better centreback pairings that would not have benefited from the addition of Maguire
@DylanN44
@DylanN44 11 ай бұрын
Buvey is properly off his head with this. A lot of players are incredible for their national teams but wouldn't be worth 40mil, like Rory said, he's just being blinded by his performances during two summers. The only reason Maguire has even been playing for England is because Southgate loves him. This is such a nothing argument from Buvey
@terrylee5968
@terrylee5968 11 ай бұрын
Wherever Maguire go, he will continue his legacy to score... regardless which sides of the goal post
@manuelantunes6378
@manuelantunes6378 11 ай бұрын
Love it when fans of other clubs start defending Maguire, saying he's not that bad, or "he's a quality player", just because on International duty he plays averagely. We know how he plays, as we have seen him play, week in and week out for the past 3 years. So, when we say he is so bad that even a second division footballer that plays in Romania would be better than him, we are not joking. He makes a lot of mistakes on the ball, is super super slow, can't handle a single second of pressure, is completely unaware of his surroundings on the pitch, etc. The only average thing on him are his long balls, and as we don't have anyone tall upfront, they are completely useless. We don't even need to put the price tag on him, even if he costed us 40, 30 or even 20 millions, he would still be terrible and we would blame him for the mistakes he'd make. I'm sure than in a more defensive minded team he will play averagely. In a club like Man United, as we are trying to start to play attracting attacking minded football, he has no space at all. No hard feelings for Maguire, I've criticized him, just not in the social media, as criticizing players just makes the thing worse. But looking at him saying he "had nothing to prove" showed me enough of him to know he doesn't give a f**k, so he can leave. But even he doesn't want to leave, saying "he''l try to fight his way up the team", when we all know he is the 6th option for Ten Hag and so he just wants to get payed at the end of the week. He needs to move on, both for the good of him and the club.
@sebluketravis2438
@sebluketravis2438 11 ай бұрын
*JUST COS BUVEY LOOKS LIKE MAGUIRE< DOESN"T MEAN HE NEEDS TO DEFEND HIM TO THE HILT*
@DrainYouOut
@DrainYouOut 11 ай бұрын
Shocking as always, keep it up lads 👍
@WillSavage
@WillSavage 11 ай бұрын
I find it really bizarre that Buvey can slag off players like Antony, Zinchenko, Cucurella etc for not meeting the expectation that their transfers generated but has a COMPLETE blind spot for Maguire. Has Maguire given him money or something? His performance level is nowhere near the level that any top 8 PL club requires.
@pyrosdestiny
@pyrosdestiny 11 ай бұрын
Maguire was absolutely atrocious every time he played. How can you be the worst player on the pitch every time he played with 21 other players on the field. He's made off like a bandit with that salary. Arguably the worst contract in the premier League.
@HoldMyTube
@HoldMyTube 11 ай бұрын
Buvey this Terrific CB can’t even CHECK HIS SHOULDER. Basics for a Sunday league player. He’s f*ckin SHOCKIN.
@Flaming0Slim.
@Flaming0Slim. 11 ай бұрын
as a city fan I think Buvey is absolutely insane backing Maguire he's consistently been one of the worst defenders in the prem since signing for United.
@calwintan3040
@calwintan3040 11 ай бұрын
We made the decision with De Gea who wasn't good enough for ten Hag's system, but we can't say Harry is not good enough?
@dinbachok6424
@dinbachok6424 11 ай бұрын
Buvey waffling
@tomhartland818
@tomhartland818 11 ай бұрын
Any rival fans saying Maguire has been poorly treated/deserves respect purely want him to stay to make United a worse team 😂
@PolygonAlley
@PolygonAlley 11 ай бұрын
He walks (quite literally sometimes) into West Ham. He's much better than most people give him credit for.
@onlycyro8499
@onlycyro8499 11 ай бұрын
dare i say villa too
@PolygonAlley
@PolygonAlley 11 ай бұрын
@@onlycyro8499 United were looking to sign Pau Torres a few years back, in another universe, him and Maguire are the back two for united but poss now it's Villa.
@GarlicbreadmanOP
@GarlicbreadmanOP 11 ай бұрын
i think buveys so passionately defending maguire coz 1) He looks like his long lost brother. 2) He displays the same amount of awareness when hes speaking, of what hes speaking about.
@kierancash9675
@kierancash9675 11 ай бұрын
It’s sad to see because somewhere between wearing and England kit and switching to a Man U kit it goes horribly wrong for Maguire, I’d take him at West Ham but if he doesn’t perform for us we also have to be ready to give him his marching orders, I still think there is a decent level CB in him though, just needs that confidence back and West Ham fans will be a little more forgiving.
@kehzito
@kehzito 11 ай бұрын
HM biggest problem is that he has forgotten the basics of defending. He holds onto the ball too much and times his pass wrong and all round too slow on the ball. Germany 3-3 England; he gave away yeti goals
@betinum-tips
@betinum-tips 11 ай бұрын
After the story with De Gea, a long serving player to the club, you think United will have mercy on Maguire? No way, of course they want him out!
@maxcsw5809
@maxcsw5809 11 ай бұрын
Can understand why is tough for Buvey to criticise his twin brother
@NCon-to5wn
@NCon-to5wn 11 ай бұрын
He 100% wants Maguire to stay so United can still have that detriment in the squad
@Nightsu
@Nightsu 11 ай бұрын
All these english pundits/influencers love to say Maguire is a good CB and that he's never let England down but the moment you say "would you take him?" they instantly reject it. So many clowns with agendas to make it seem like it's United's fault hes an awful footballer. Quite possibly in the bottom 5 CBs in the league.
@CJ-Ss
@CJ-Ss 11 ай бұрын
It's very simple really, he needs to play at a club that plays with a deep defence, he doesn't have the agility or pace to play past the first 3rd of the pitch
@Rossa4444
@Rossa4444 11 ай бұрын
People are so selective about criticising United players. Apparently Bruno & Antony are terrible but Maguire is a top CB? Weird
@onlycyro8499
@onlycyro8499 11 ай бұрын
i’m with buvey on this one , i definitely see him walking into most team . he’s a good center back who will provide a lot for most teams; maybe not the united, city , arsenal but definitely see him at villa or westham
@Ninoshusband18
@Ninoshusband18 11 ай бұрын
He's not better than Zouma or Aguard
@dicerevo
@dicerevo 11 ай бұрын
No. He’s not good mate. He’s just not.
@jedsithor
@jedsithor 11 ай бұрын
Phil Jones is better than Maguire. What's Maguire's best attribute? He gets his head on the ball. But have you every actually watched his defensive headers? He doesn't actually make clearances. He heads the ball so that it loops up into the air and is still in the danger area. People mention his passing. But the quality and timing of his passes are terrible. He'll look up, see someone in space and then decide to take a few more touches. By the time he actually passes the ball, the player he's passing it to has an opposition player close by. Maguire's passing kills the momentum of the team. His spatial awareness is awful (as evidenced by the Sevilla game), he can't organise the defence and he's as self-deluded as John Terry.
@Solusk_Shaman
@Solusk_Shaman 11 ай бұрын
I hope he moves and has a chance to play first team football. But make no mistake, he is not a good CB and if he moves it will be shown week in, week out.
@triaxe-mmb
@triaxe-mmb 11 ай бұрын
Also why cant we get full broadcast uploads? I am not a podcast pweson but i listen to a lot of "podcasts" on KZfaq...
@YongFate
@YongFate 11 ай бұрын
Glad Rory mentioned the France game, he was awful in that game and no one ever says it
@xntr1c29
@xntr1c29 11 ай бұрын
Buvey trying so hard to keep Maguire’s resale price high. What a lad 😂
@scottfitzgerald3421
@scottfitzgerald3421 11 ай бұрын
Joe hart didn’t let anyone down but peo didn’t fancy him so he got rid, plus maguire is now on 250 with United being In the champs league ,
@REDplaysmusic
@REDplaysmusic 11 ай бұрын
Buvey's on Maguire's PR payroll
@ay-pj8co
@ay-pj8co 11 ай бұрын
Maguire in that RCB spot for Man Utd would be magnificent. flanked by Dalot/Wan Bissaka and Martinez. with Casemiro and Onana in front and behind him. that position with those players surrounding him hides his weaknesses and bring his strengths to the forefront. A shame that the perception around held even by some of his team mates may make a second chance for him at Man Utd impossible.
@JoeSmith-br4qx
@JoeSmith-br4qx 11 ай бұрын
“Magnificent”… you’ve answered you own question in a way by highlighting his “weaknesses”. At this level you need to be almost perfect and when you’re competing with Man City, everyone needs to be world class. How can we compete with city and how is he a good centre back if you have to have all of these players to cover for his weaknesses?
@JoeSmith-br4qx
@JoeSmith-br4qx 11 ай бұрын
Football is a ruthless sport, second chances aren’t common place
@ay-pj8co
@ay-pj8co 11 ай бұрын
@@JoeSmith-br4qx I disagree my friend. City are a system team. a lot of their players are individually average but are buoyed by their system, their confidence in it and its architect. Its extremely rare to find a player with no weakness and I would argue no team in the world has ever had a team composed of such players throughout. However, I do agree with your sentiment with regards to the relationship between Maguire and Man Utd and its probably best for all parties if they part ways. In the case they don't though, there is a spot for Maguire in the team in which he could turn his fortunes around.
@JoeSmith-br4qx
@JoeSmith-br4qx 11 ай бұрын
@@ay-pj8co I agree almost entirely with you. A lot of Man City’s greatness if not all of it comes down to pep. His tactics and ability to put a team together outweigh the ability of the players themselves. He can make ‘average’ players look world class within a very short period of time. My issue is that harry maguires weaknesses are so blatant, obvious and often. He shows a lack of spacial awareness, football IQ and general speed and decision making. Man United are tasked with competing with a team that can put 100 points on the table. That can win a treble. Sure, not all the players you bring in to a title challenging side have to be class already and show no weaknesses. However, harry maguire has had the platform to show us what he’s made of and has fallen at almost every hurdle. A line has to be drawn and unfortunately harry maguire is a long way away from that line and on the wrong side of it.
@ay-pj8co
@ay-pj8co 11 ай бұрын
@@JoeSmith-br4qx I can see where you are coming from. Whatever ends up happening lets just hope it facilitates more trophies next season because good knows this club needs it.
@shaun8141
@shaun8141 11 ай бұрын
The clubs called Banter Utd for a reason
@davidsedgley1133
@davidsedgley1133 11 ай бұрын
I'm convinced Buvey's just trolling on this. "He's never let England down" is the sort of thing people only say about a desperately bad player. It's like saying "well at least he gives it his best". Maguire at his peak just about makes it into a team fighting to gain a place in Europe. Maguire at United would struggle in a pub team. It's not about unrealistic expectations in terms of playing style, he was abysmal in a defensive style as well. It's that when you watch him it's like he is secretly trying to make United lose, but not make it too obvious. Any time he's in a position where he might be called upon to defend, he seems to move away from the position he thinks the ball might go. Any time he goes to make a tackle, he seems to deliberately make it in a way that makes it ineffective and/or easy for the other player to claim a foul. He de-motivates the rest of the team. United might genuinely be a better team with 10 men than with him on the pitch. At best, he's been trying to hide. At worst, he hates United for some reason and is actively trying to sink the ship. He has been that bad that it wouldn't surprise me. He needs to be removed far away from United for everyone's sanity. If I never again watch him play for a team I support, it will be too soon.
@timmy5876
@timmy5876 11 ай бұрын
he just won’t be able to get passed this, i’d say he’s good enough to be 4/5th choice at united but even then when he does come into play he won’t be seen as that, he’ll be seen as the 80m man. If he goes to west ham or chelsea or somewhere for £20-30m (which they’d be lucky to get) then he’ll be seen as a player in that price range
@abrham426
@abrham426 11 ай бұрын
Buvery good work 👏👏 if we sell Maguire you deserve credit With Rory talk we can't find buyer. But some point i ask his Buvery talk about Maguire
@kyriacandro
@kyriacandro 11 ай бұрын
Buvey's football iq in the mud 😅
@elliottpettigrove
@elliottpettigrove 11 ай бұрын
Rory is 100% right here. Buvey is on Neptune
@ollyknight1833
@ollyknight1833 11 ай бұрын
Great debate!!
@Cmitero
@Cmitero 11 ай бұрын
MAGUIRE IS England highest goal scorer of all time as a defender...
@RobinOfSweden
@RobinOfSweden 11 ай бұрын
buvey saying maguire is fantastic cb is totally inline with his 0 game knowledge.
@SomeRandomBod
@SomeRandomBod 11 ай бұрын
If ur a club willing to surround him with pace, not leave him one on one, not play a high line, ignore the circus & have silly money to burn on wages, then Harry’s yer man.
@young_raymond47
@young_raymond47 11 ай бұрын
If anything, Buvey's extremely kind assessment of Harry Maguire is proof that he isn't good enough. We already know he's a wind up merchant, but he is also a standardly tribalistic fan. His opinion on Maguire is exactly the same to me as Liverpool fans holding up that banner saying "David Moyes is a Football Genius". It's actually a damning indictment of Maguire.
@kierencoats9077
@kierencoats9077 11 ай бұрын
Buvey had me for a second there when he started talking about the penalty 🤣
@davemurf593
@davemurf593 11 ай бұрын
Harry Maguire would be a brilliant cb for a team that sits on the edge of their box and counter attacks. He's looked awful for United because he has been asked to play on the halfway line when he's as slow as they come. Confidence also makes a big difference. He was never worth 80m but he's also not as bad as he seems
@jacktroote8708
@jacktroote8708 11 ай бұрын
Forget every other year of shit maguire has given us. This season he quite literally tackled martial in the box and injured him. That sums him up fully
@aiedans399
@aiedans399 11 ай бұрын
Adam and Rory must have a hard time working with buvey
@KTRIGGZMEDIAOFFICIAL
@KTRIGGZMEDIAOFFICIAL 11 ай бұрын
How does Rory not know that this guy is trolling? 😂
@usman645
@usman645 11 ай бұрын
He wants Maguire at United cause City press through the fridge with ease. Buvey for one moment put your bias aside mate.
@CB-lw7ty
@CB-lw7ty 11 ай бұрын
Buvey is only generous to Maguire because he's a detriment to United, if Maguire was good enough for United he'd be trying to bring him down but he knows United are worse off with Maguire in the team than selling him and using the funds to improve, it doesn't take a genius to work out what Buvey's doing there 😆
@lukehenry1708
@lukehenry1708 11 ай бұрын
The wilful incompetence of Buvey is incredible. Yes Maguire isn't at fault for his transfer fee, or the strategy at United at the time of his purchase, however when there is a clear shift in strategy after he comes in, and he is unable to play in the new system then he needs to be moved on. Maguire doesn't get into any of the top 6 or 7 teams from last season because he is incapable to play on the halfway. He is great when he is playing on the counter and defending his box, but he is incapable to play in a team that controls possession. If he is so great, who does he come in for City? Maguire had an interview where he said "I'm the captain of Manchester United, and I have nothing to prove" he said this while away with England and he wasn't playing for United because he wasn't good enough. Bruno Fernandes was literally the most creative player in England last year, created more chances than KDB and Odegard. If United had an actual striker, who was willing to play and had some ability to score, Bruno would have ended the season comfortably with 20+ league assists.
@ConnorWoolf
@ConnorWoolf 11 ай бұрын
Villa fan here, he really doesnt start for us at all, Mings, Torres, Carlos and Konsa are all better than him.
@danieljackson3446
@danieljackson3446 11 ай бұрын
The reason Buvey likes Maguire is the same reason most City fans do, it's also the same reason most City fans want the Glazers to stay. Anything to keep the Red Devils handicapped.
@thecodfather1716
@thecodfather1716 11 ай бұрын
If Buvey thinks Maguire is better than Zouma and Aguerd he is literally saying he has never watched either of them play. They’re a great partnership and i want Maguire nowhere near my squad
@sidiqsedi
@sidiqsedi 11 ай бұрын
Maguire hasn’t let England down is a fact. He’s a good CB. He’s better than Aguerd and Zouma. He’s just not a front foot CB. That’s it. The best move he can ever have is either to Juve or Roma. Those clubs suit his style of play. But he’s definitely no a bad player.
@musabjunaidi
@musabjunaidi 11 ай бұрын
Maguire has never let England down, of course in a team that plays 5 at the back and 2 defensive midfielders will surely be good at defending. Even during the world cup, the goals conceded by England were his fault.
@adrianwhitfield6656
@adrianwhitfield6656 11 ай бұрын
Maguire needs to go to Luton if he wants minutes, anywhere above that he will be on the bench
@orcho141
@orcho141 11 ай бұрын
If he wont move of his own accord because he's comfortable on his big wages he has to be forced out, simple as that
@br4kecheckd
@br4kecheckd 11 ай бұрын
Maguire is a scapegoat for United and their fans. He was overpaid yes but Man U had a terrible unbalanced midfield that provided 0 help to their defence. How come nobody is talking about Varane who is a shadow of a player that played in Madrid
@ishraq01q
@ishraq01q 11 ай бұрын
Buvey is 100% doing this to prolong Maguire’s stay at United the cheeky bastard
@mendo5459
@mendo5459 11 ай бұрын
Johnny Evans will be ahead of him next season lol
@tylernadeau2831
@tylernadeau2831 11 ай бұрын
9:24 says it all right there. Maguire doesn’t even start for united he shouldn’t be playing for England 💀
@zachholmes6505
@zachholmes6505 11 ай бұрын
I’m with Buvey and although I think most people will disagree with him I think he is highly underrated just because he’s played for a toxic club slightly above his level. This move has not worked for many other but just bc he is an 80m English player people say he’s terrible but he is a top prem cb just below the top tier of cb in the league.
@synziel
@synziel 11 ай бұрын
Athleticism is such a massive part of football, CBS are getting smaller and more agile but he is so heavy footed, he's a great box defender though.
@ajmolabedin5739
@ajmolabedin5739 11 ай бұрын
Bayern Leverkusen forward Moussa Diaby is expected to join Aston Villa in the next few days
@jonathanhoskins3881
@jonathanhoskins3881 11 ай бұрын
Maguire is a starting and top CB for any team in the premier league outside the top 4 or 6 teams, if you play a deep line, defend the box, hit on counter he is perfect, if you want a high line, dominate possession and play technical football, maguire is awful
@warrenforest7417
@warrenforest7417 11 ай бұрын
Maguire only works in a counter attacking team. Back three sitting deep. Hes also almost 30. He can go to Man City then. Hes a great player for PEP
@Barcawho
@Barcawho 11 ай бұрын
Fundamentally not a top 10 CB no clue where Buvey got that. He's above average, he would improve West Ham, but the reality is that any big 6 team with him as a starter has a massive disadvantage against literally every other team.
@andytenmenthefirst
@andytenmenthefirst 11 ай бұрын
As a united fan who would sell my left bollock for maguire to leave my club, I 100% agree with Buvey. Maguire is absolutely world class and any club would be lucky to have him. Please buy him someone! 🙏
@doc_oz
@doc_oz 11 ай бұрын
A word or 2 for @Buvey: Man City would not sign Maguire; you would not take him at City even for 20 mil. There's a reason City passed him over when United signed him and I'm sure price wasn't it. You say Maguire has never let down England, then never let down England when it mattered. Well, he's done both at United. And finally, let me leave you with this: the hallmark of an elite footballer is the ability to adapt to different tactical styles. Clearly, Maguire hasn't or can't. He just won't work in a frontfoot, play-from-the-halfway line system. Just about every striker beats him in a foot race if the offside trap is beaten.
@harveymatthews9512
@harveymatthews9512 10 ай бұрын
All Villa Centre halfs mentioned are miles better. Best way to compare is how valuable would Zouma/Ogbonna/Aguerd be as a utility player at united. When you put it like that, it's a no brainer.
@Hieillua
@Hieillua 11 ай бұрын
You don't ''force'' a mediocre player with no influence out. You just simply sell them or bench them. No force needed. This isn't Messi, Ronaldo, Mbappe, Neymar, Haaland or Benzema we're talking about. Its not like he has some amazing legacy at United and you need to force him out.
@BuckshotB
@BuckshotB 11 ай бұрын
He does not get in the newcastle team, lascelles is better
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