I totally agree with you Mark Corbett and would encourage anyone to check out this brother's videos on KZfaq. He is very thorough and somewhat of an expert on this topic.

Yes, absolutely agree. The reality of hell is of utmost importance. However, growing up in church I was taught the eternal torment view by default as the only valid view. However, after taking the time to review the material from the Rethinking Hell website and KZfaq channel, along with videos from yourself, I found that eternal torment is actually just a set of lenses we bring to interpretating Scripture, and that once I was able to take these lenses off through patient study and try on different lenses, overall I found conditional immortality (annihilationism) to be more biblical.

Seconded (or thirded as the case may be). Scripture really opened up to me once I saw that the idea of a disembodied heaven and hell (as opposed to the new Jerusalem and lake of fire) weren't actually taught in Scripture. It answered several questions I had, among these were questions about where Lazarus and Jairus' Daughter were in the interim time between their death and Jesus raising them, why the Bible refers to death as "falling asleep", why Adam and Eve seemed to still be able to become immortal after they sinned (lest they reach out their hand and take and eat of the tree of life and live forever).

I am not 100% sure which view is correct but I find that there are so many passages that describe the fate of the wicked at final judgement as destruction and death. God specifically didn’t want humankind to be able to have eternal life in a sinful state which is why he cut Adam and Eve off from the tree of life lest they eat it and live forever. Only through Jesus can we have access to the tree of life and live forever in a redeemed resurrection.

@@meganbohun1483 I've recently come to believe that this act of excluding Adam and Eve from the garden was a great grace on the part of God. His exclusion from the garden was so that they wouldn't live forever in a miserable and sinful state. By excluding them, he was ensuring they might be redeemed and NOT live in eternal torment.

😂😂 My thoughts exactly

GOD DOES NOT “SEND” anyone to hell.

Yes, amen sister! There are several theological problems with immortality of the soul doctrine.

So, then what is the point of not sinning then, if there is no eternal consequences for it? This teaching is from Jehovah Witnesses and is erroneous.

@@mediocreman561 The eternal consequence is eternal death. . There will be a judgment and punishment as I said, according to the sins that a person has committed, righteous and just. Not the same for everyone. The wages of sin is DEATH, not eternal conscious torment in hell. John 3:16 doesn't speak about some kind of eternal life in a fiery place called hell, but it says: will perish, which means will be totally destroyed.

@@mediocreman561 And I am not a Jehovah Witness but an evangelical,( pentecostal) believer

@@margreethakkerman4026 Eternal death is no different from no consequences. Might as well sin all you want because there is nothing to punish the sins committed. I speak and read the Koine Greek and can tell when the translation uses a bias within it because of the mood of the times so I can confidently say that the Greek word used in John 3:15 & 16 for perish means eternal misery in hell. How do we know this? Because Paul makes an argument to this very fact in 1 Corinthians 15:13-18. And the very same word is used in 1 Corinthians 15:18. Which, if the dead in sin do not rise again the resurrection of Christ is worthless because in Christ we ALL, meaning the sinners and the righteous through Christ, will be ALIVE (1 Corinthians 15:22) because of his resurrection. And if the sinners are made to be alive for a judgment and then be put back to death it still makes the whole resurrection, and ministry of Christ fruitless and we can all eat and drink for tomorrow we die, as the scripture says.

@@margreethakkerman4026 I too, am in Christ. If there is a name of a sect to be called in following Christ, then Biblically, it would be "the way" as it is called in Acts 9:2,; 19:9, 23; 22:4; 24:14. Because Christianity was named by the gentiles (Acts 11:26) and anyone who labels their faith on with any other sect or denomination is still practicing a gentile tradition.

Alisa's ministry makes a point to counter the claims that are turning up in progressive Christianity and the deconstruction movement. A Christian not caught up in these ideologies may not have any issue with the reality of hell, but progressives and deconstructioners very much do.

@@truebabies I understand what you are saying. But from my experience in apologetics and the faith, it does nothing conclusive within our faith except further divide the brethren and help demonize each other because these heretical beliefs are usually brought in by prominent, credentialed, well trained, and educated people within the faith instead of nonbelievers. Although, I understand why she is doing this, I also know that we, the brethren, forget that the work of nurturing the growing believer, as well as the grown mature believer in the faith is done by the milk of the Word, which is able to rebuke, teach, and edify our mutual faith by the Holy Spirit no matter how hard we try to do so. Jesus did say that let the blind leaders lead the blind into the same pit, so preach Christ crucified and let the Lord do His work. But that is just my two cents worth.

Condemnation is entirely biblical, but traditional Christianity's idea of hell is literally a myth. Like most of its other traditions and beliefs, traditional Christianity's view of hell was appropriated from heathen religions and given a Christian coat.

@@theeternalsbeliever1779 The heathen religions didn't have a punishment for the afterlife. They believed that the soul was destroyed, or disintegrated into the Earth. They actually adopted that belief from the Jewish one because of the Jewish scriptures being copied into the Greek.

Peter stated in Acts that David was _still_ in his grave waiting for the resurrection. Matter fact, Heb. 11 states at the end that all of the faithful ppl who died before Christ have _not_ received their rewards yet. The idea that Jesus took the faithful out of the grave and took them to Heaven with Him is equally as silly as traditional Christianity's view of hell.

Not in catholicism - we differentiate the two

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You should watch the video. It will help

@Sydney Bell It has nothing to do with God but with fear, control, worry, doubt and guilt.

God doesn’t delight in injustice but rejoice with the truth. God is love and loves His enemies. Hell slanders the character of God, diminishes God’s plan for humanity, and is the biggest injustice there is (being eternally consciously tormented for finite sins).

@@SillyChickens222 "God is love and loves His enemies." Didn't this loving god command the SLAUGHTER of Amalekites (1 Samuel 15:3) Midianites (Numbers 31:15-18) Jabesh-Gilead (Judges 21:10-11) Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites (Deuteronomy 20:16-18) ? An Omnipotent god could accomplish its goals without slaughter unless slaughter is the goal.

@@sanjeevgig8918this loving God also sent His Son to die for our sins so we aren’t separated from God by our death. What happened to Jesus was horrible but God used it for good. That’s what most people won’t get past that God is the creator of good and evil but He uses it all for His purposes. His ways are beyond our ways and He sees everything from beginning to end. I was molested by my dad as a child. I get angry with God and wonder why He put me through that as a child. And I think about all the other children suffering right now too. But I know we live in a fallen world where we have to know evil in order to be thankful for the good. Only God can impart faith and lead one to repentance. Before that no one is seeking God and all are locked up in stubbornness. The only reason why I can see God’s truth is bc He opened my eyes to it 💗 He will do the same for all men one day too!

So if God doesn't do it, how do you know how to get there? What is the mechanism that transports you there? How is God not involved in that process?

@@truncated7644 Romans 10:17: So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Was it your ear that gave you faith? The Word of God, which is given through the Bible, declares The Good News > Salvation. So then, did the Bible save you? And if so, is it then the Bible which delivers you to heaven?

@@kansascityonline No, I don't believe the Bible is true or that its teaching delivers me anything. Did you have a different point you meant to make?

@@truncated7644 Yes! If you don't believe the Bible why bother asking a question about it. Put another way, do you often ask questions about things you do not believe. (rhetoric)...

@@kansascityonline I ask people questions about things that they believe that seen unfounded to me. Why do you believe it?

The Gospel explained through scripture only Acts 13:38-39KJB 38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins: 39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. Romans 1:18-20KJB 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Romans 1:32KJB 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. Romans 2:5KJB 5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; Romans 2:16KJB 16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. Romans 3:10-12KJB 10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. 12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Romans 3:19-26KJB 19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. 20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. 21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Romans 4:5KJB 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Romans 5:1-2KJB 1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: 2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. Romans 5:8-11KJB 8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. 11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. 1 Corinthians 15:3-4KJB 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

*Paul Johnson

Unfortunately those who don't believe in Hell end up there. Denying Hell is denying God

@@markhorton3994 IF IF IF you die and find yourself in MUSLIM HELL or HINDU HELL, you'll accept it happily, right ??

@@sanjeevgig8918 Only the Christian, Triune God is real. The Muslim Hell is false. Hindus do not have a concept of Hell. In Hinduism one is reincarnated until becoming good enough to be released becoming part of the all and cease to exist as an individual. I know where I will go when I die.

@@markhorton3994 Google SPECIAL PLEADING. LOL

Traditional Christianity's view of condemnation did not start with Christ, as He reinforced what prophets taught about the condemned being _completely destroyed_ . The death penalty that was carried out under the Sinai Covenant was a type of the second and more permanent death that is mentioned in Rev. 2 and 20.

thank you Jeanne for posting the verse

I mean Sheol is the Jewish version of the ANE Underworld, like Irkalla.

No its not

Read on Bible is a progressive revelation.. John tells us of judgment and hell being thrown in the lake of fire .. you believe or not

​@@Alan-tjj The Bible only speaks of complete obliteration/annihilation. Eternal punishment is speaking of the result being permanent, not continuous burning. The lake of fire is the way by which the second death occurs for the resurrected unbelievers. Death means death, not living forever in torment. Resurrected flesh can't burn forever.

@Katherine B revelation 14: 10 your not listening.. To be absent from the body is to be with the Lord.. christians only die once..2nd death is a judgment after your first death ..for unbelievers

@@Alan-tjj Being consumed in a lake of fire isn't torment? I did say the second death is for resurrected unbelievers.

@@Alan-tjj It's "and to be present", not "is to be present".

Also 17 times in the English Standard Version, 15 times in the New American Standard Version, and 20 times in the Revised Standard Version. You're probably right in that the KJV has the most occurrences of hell translated as "hell."

Stop it.

The Gospel explained through scripture only Acts 13:38-39KJB 38 Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins: 39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. Romans 1:18-20KJB 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Romans 1:32KJB 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. Romans 2:5KJB 5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; Romans 2:16KJB 16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. Romans 3:10-12KJB 10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. 12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Romans 3:19-26KJB 19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. 20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. 21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Romans 4:5KJB 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Romans 5:1-2KJB 1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: 2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. Romans 5:8-11KJB 8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. 11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. 1 Corinthians 15:3-4KJB 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Some know .

...I think it is a vain affectation.

@@Longstorie my fallen nature

All Christian’s are expected to study theology. You don’t need to be specially trained to read the Bible.

That's an interesting theory about the parables of hell really referring to emotions. Is that based on any evidence or did you just make it up?

@@colinplank it is what it’s saying!! Also Gehenna is the dead! But not literal dead. To be carnally minded is death! So that’s why Jesus spoke to the pharassiees harshly to say that they are in their carnal minds taking the Old Testament literal so the spirit is dead. It’s not life. That’s why he called them white washed tombs! Inside they are dead ( just carnal, lower nature, earth). It is all parable, John writes Jesus did not open his mouth without a parable. Lazarus is an parable, because it’s all a story of within hence the statement the kingdom is within you! Meaning the Old Testament writings of all these kingdoms and rulers and people are just a symbol of your story! Jacob is a story of you, genesis is you, Abraham is you Moses! It is the spirit of the story not the letter Paul tells you! It is the earth, then the water ( baptism) of truth not water, then rising to the air meeting the Christ within yourself who baptises with fire ( spirit). God is a consuming fire! Not to hurt you but to burn away the lies and suffering of the mind! It’s beautiful because God is love. Does not harm you and has never left you! Do you not know the spirit of God dwells in YOU? ( Paul asks). Peace

@@colinplank have I lost you? Did I say to much and confused you?

@@terrypaul7706 I'm not trying to be mean when I say this, but you're making all kinds of assertions without giving any evidence. The assertions you've made about what the Bible means are false. Did someone tell you all this? How do they know what Jesus meant or what Gehenna really means when these secret meanings are not recorded? I encourage you to read the gospels yourself as though you're just a regular person who doesn't know much about Jesus or Christianity. That's the audience that the Gospel writers had in mind. It is not a complicated message and the meaning becomes clear when you read it without any presuppositions (Christian or otherwise). I could be convinced of your position if you can show where specifically these claims are made in Scripture rather than just insisting that they are.

@@colinplank I gave you scripture and so you are worshipping a book when you are the book of life! It is YOUR carnal mind deceiving YOU now! How do I know? Because the bible is the living word yeah? Well are you living? Do you know the name of God? This idol book tells you but you don’t remember because you are you using your carnal mind not spirit! I AM is the name of God Moses states! Do you say I AM? Is it the spirit or your ego saying it? The ego which is an enemy of God meaning it cannot know God is Satan which means adversary! The beast. The earth carnal low in you! That’s why it says esau was red not literal but earthy, lower, red is the low energy hence the devil depicted red. Emotions, Moses parted the Red Sea! The emotions must part to get to the promised land,

No it's from the sins you commit.

@@plalelal Is Jesus in HELL right now ? IF IF IF he "paid" or "is paying" the price for other sinners, he must be sitting in HELL, right ??

No. This is not hell. Hell is where you go after death as a just reward for amassing a sin debt against God, unless the debt can be repaid. Since you cannot repay it, you need Jesus to pay it for you.

Ho-boy are you in for a rude awakening!

@@JCDisciple my children disobeyed me, should I torture them when they literally didn't fully understand why I had rules for them? In your worldview, God is complete in himself, lacking nothing and can't be diminished. What is there to pay him?