Is it right to equate the “Israeli democratic state” with Hamas?

Is it right to equate the “Israeli democratic state” with Hamas? | LBC analysis

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15 күн бұрын

Iain Dale speaks to Paul Garlick KC, a criminal barrister and judge, to discuss whether it's right for the ICC to put Benjamin Netanyahu and Israeli official in the same bracket as Hamas.
The chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court (ICC) has called for arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu and Yahya Sinwar, the leader of Hamas in Gaza, on charges of war crimes.
Karim Khan KC stated that there are reasonable grounds to believe both individuals are responsible for such offences and crimes against humanity following Hamas's attack on Israel on October 7th.
Arrest warrants have also been requested for Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, Hamas's political leader Ismail Haniyeh, and the group's military chief Mohammed Deif.
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@EdwardLindon 13 күн бұрын

No need to equate them. Judge the Israeli govt by the actions of the Israeli govt.

@gtully40 12 күн бұрын

That would destroy the Zionist narrative. They have to pretend that's what's being done in order to defend Israel's war crimes.

@lisacook8235 12 күн бұрын

The comparison is irrelevant to the case.

@samf.s.7731 12 күн бұрын

Precisely And the ICC is not holding the Israeli people responsible for this, they're holding 2 members of the government leadership responsible. That's it.

@t.dmytryshyn2615 12 күн бұрын

@@lisacook8235 No it's not. Israel is guilty of War crimes and crimes against humanity and as such Netanyahu as the leader of the government is guilty of the same crimes. Don't be so dense.

@placebo2020 11 күн бұрын

💯 this kind of distraction journalism is *typical* of the western media.

@Frank-costanza 13 күн бұрын

You can't compare the two, hamas hasn't occupied Israel for decades.

@chrisspencer6502 13 күн бұрын

@@bluestar6879so Gaza has been a free state able to engage on economic activities without interference since 2005!? The people of Gaza have been free to travel!? Gaza has been a recognised part of an independent Palestine since 2005!?

@user-gr2yb5sq7e 13 күн бұрын

@@bluestar6879 yeah and locked the gates to the open-air prison on the way out too didn't they

@bluehalo8604 13 күн бұрын

They're at BEST the same. I'd say they've proven themselves to be far more nefarious, all things considered. ('All things' meaning over decades vs pretending 10/7 was the inception of the entire universe.)

@bluestar6879 13 күн бұрын

@@chrisspencer6502 Yes - they were free since 2005. NO Israelis were in their territory since that time. Next question ?

@RobPires 13 күн бұрын

@@bluestar6879the world can explain to you they didn't leave gaza millions of times you would still pretend not to hear it.

@SamA7x 13 күн бұрын

There is nothing you can say of Hamas that does not hold true for Israel on a much greater scale.

@dominiclane8538 13 күн бұрын

Oh shut up

@wiggy5728 13 күн бұрын

Your absolutely correct, and I simply can’t understand how there is any support for Israel whatsoever. The one thing israel, the US and the UK, should do is apologise for decades of injustice and terrible atrocities meted out to the Palestinians.

@jameswarren2222 13 күн бұрын

You're right sam

@mohamedmoledina6403 13 күн бұрын

There is no moral equivalent netanyahu is the worst creature

@bluecheesey701 13 күн бұрын

There is no equivalent says Biden. True, 1 lot killed 1k and the other lot killed 40k. Its hard to.disagree with the old man on this point.

@Warbaman 13 күн бұрын

Ian dale has been on the wrong side forever, cant be changing sides now

@gonagona9943 13 күн бұрын

Never because in the evening he will be in Isreal for dinner with the criminal leaders of Isreal

@jake751 13 күн бұрын

Yes he's always been on the wrong side of history.

@johhny711 13 күн бұрын

Exactly

@marknicholson2281 13 күн бұрын

He is so obviously ignorant of the facts and history. Been listening to msm and Israeli propaganda without critical thought.

@Talkingsense123 13 күн бұрын

His comments make me feel physically sick. We won’t forget how he positioned himself 🥴

@bashm5767 13 күн бұрын

Please, please, please can we stop saying Israel is a democratic state?

@boubou2119 13 күн бұрын

I agree

@D-E-S_8559 13 күн бұрын

@bashm5767 When has anything claiming itself to be "democratic" ever been averse to; COLONIALISM, SLAVERY, SEGREGATION (JCrows/Nuremberg laws), Holocausts, Genocides, wars of aggression all that happened and continue to happen in countries that call themselves democracies---why does the west (majority white) believe that by calling yourself or your friends a "democracy", then those countries are incapable of being wrong or insulated by a democratic holy spirit from doing evil.....!!?

@zizo015 13 күн бұрын

Agree

@siavashmashoof 13 күн бұрын

It’s democracy for the people allowed to vote. Surely that’s democracy :s

@luvitluvitbaby 13 күн бұрын

@@siavashmashoofEveryone in Iran is allowed to vote too.

@chrisspencer6502 13 күн бұрын

What an outrageous proposition!? The United Kingdom America and France were incapable of carrying out war crimes because they are domestic states!? The people of Vietnam would disagree the people of Algeria would disagree and the people of Afganistán would disagree

@russelljames5631 13 күн бұрын

Congo, chile, Honduras, etc the list is so long.

@jakel8627 13 күн бұрын

Could you explain what a domestic state is?

@bobjones-ns4bv 13 күн бұрын

@@jakel8627 He means democratic

@WhizzRichardThompson 13 күн бұрын

I think you mean democratic, not domestic.

@jacobcohen9205 13 күн бұрын

You just made Israel's case for Israel, bud. Cheers.

@user-oy3em1nd1l 13 күн бұрын

Why do they keep saying Israel is a democracy...and in the next breath calling it a Jewish state...cant have it both ways

@user-qf1zg4zz8j 13 күн бұрын

Simple and direct - thank you. B'Tselem, Human rights watch and notably Amnesty International agree with you.

@viciousmindzentertainment9307 13 күн бұрын

Yeah a what democracy passes out weapon to only one demographic of people...I believe thats what Jim crow did in the south

@talksmoke1190 13 күн бұрын

As if only hebrews live there

@user-oy3em1nd1l 13 күн бұрын

@@talksmoke1190 they want and are trying to get it that way...

@talksmoke1190 13 күн бұрын

@@user-oy3em1nd1l wrong

@equaliser2265 13 күн бұрын

They are worse than hamas, thats a fact.

@seanfagan8490 13 күн бұрын

It’s called Israel

@tomgallagher7870 12 күн бұрын

After watching the documentary oct 7th its just hard to believe that the israeli military didnt know there was an attack imminent.there was alot of movement on the border leading up to it.even the footage from the cameras on the hamas fighters showed they couldnt believe they broke through into israel they were even arguing amongst themselves what to do next

@BlackGriffin195 12 күн бұрын

Go and live there. You will soon change your mind. Make sure you have a return ticket.

@docca123 11 күн бұрын

no they're not

@fitzjafaru7107 13 күн бұрын

Ian Dale!!! I'm embarrassed on your behalf.

@user-qf1zg4zz8j 13 күн бұрын

Embarrassed? - he should be ashamed but like so many zee on ists he doesn't know how to be.

@joprocter4573 13 күн бұрын

Fool

@juniper150 12 күн бұрын

The Israeli flag that he put next to name on his Twitter profile is a bit of a giveaway

@daviesjacques8342 11 күн бұрын

Are we in britain living or soon to be under an apartheid government rule straight out of tel Aviv? it's one thing to support a so called ally , bowing down & breaking laws, supporting apartheid , trying to legislate to curb the British population s rights , strange or Orwellian .

@brianferguson7840 13 күн бұрын

If Israel had "ever" acted properly and justly toward the Palestinian population, then Hamas would/could not exist !

@MorganHayes_Composer.Pianist 13 күн бұрын

and partly supported by Netanyahu in order to stave off a 2 state solution/ divide and rule etc

@KoshVorlon-xb3wq 13 күн бұрын

Dales boyfriend Bibi the Butcher is about to be indicted for war crimes, that's why he looks do sad.

@timwoodger7896 13 күн бұрын

😂

@mindyabusinessboy 12 күн бұрын

😂😂 dales boyfriend 🤣🤣. You win 🥇

@willytalbot1 13 күн бұрын

War crimes are war crimes no matter who or what you are

@joprocter4573 13 күн бұрын

Wrong one is terrorist the other is democratic state trying to survive a life surrounded by Arab attack possibilities.russia objects to enemy at the gates why shouldn't israel.

@mogznwaz 12 күн бұрын

You think just going to war is a crime. Sorry but that’s not how it works. If Hamas had not committed an atrocity on 7/10 there would be no war in Gaza and that’s the truth.

@user-ry2kt9fo5m 12 күн бұрын

Yeah no one is above the law

@primehouari9128 13 күн бұрын

Still in denial.who occupies who?

@joprocter4573 13 күн бұрын

Can't rewrite history

@honved1 13 күн бұрын

The ICC isn’t equating Israel with Hamas, they are equating Netanyahu and Hamas leaders

@Norbitek25 13 күн бұрын

Justice for Hind.

@cathymartens7478 12 күн бұрын

🙏

@Lurch685 12 күн бұрын

I am considering getting her name tattooed on me in Arabic as a reminder.

@steffenfischer1405 13 күн бұрын

how do you not see that netanyahu is a war criminal. theres tens of thousands of dead kids, a siege of all things necessary for life, you are starving kids, collective punishment is a war crime shame on you iain dale.

@carreromartialarts 12 күн бұрын

He is paid to be blind

@brasherish 13 күн бұрын

Because of people like Ian dale I no longer tune into LBC. Never known such apologists for the criminal behaviours of a state

@munaabdi1503 13 күн бұрын

I couldn’t believe what I was hearing! “I wouldn’t go that far” when referring to the arrest warrant for Netanyahu. Ridiculous 😮

@joshuapocalypse 12 күн бұрын

It's honestly gotten so much worse over the past few months. Much less coverage and much more biased. They must have been spanked. Wimps.

@keiranmorrisart 12 күн бұрын

It's the ministry of truth

@waynereid9471 13 күн бұрын

Ian looks upset 😅

@jake751 13 күн бұрын

Yes you'd think that he would be used to being wrong 😊

@LouiseBarnes-pg2yy 13 күн бұрын

How many kids need to die in order for one to be held to account?

@Light-lp8rn 13 күн бұрын

A lot of German children died in WW2.

@jake751 13 күн бұрын

@@Light-lp8rnoh wow so it's a competition?

@Light-lp8rn 13 күн бұрын

@@jake751 *No. When the Germans started bombing civilian areas, Britain had to respond the same, in order to win the war, you're welcome* And when you decide to build your military bases in civilian areas, and then invade a country and declare to keep doing it over and over again, that country has every right to take out your military, whether you oddly chose to build said bases in civilian areas or not. *I think there is an alternative, but people will not offer that alternative to Israel* If, Israel did stop the bombing, lifted all restrictions on Gaza and the West Bank, withdraw all troops, gave each a billion a year in aid, recognized them as an independent state, and not one Israeli set foot in either, but then they attacked Israel, what would you then want Israel to do ? If you can't offer a reasonable solution to this, you are leaving Israel no current alternative.

@Nick-zp8wk 13 күн бұрын

@@Light-lp8rnyeah the alternative is the one state solution (that one state being Palestine)

@Light-lp8rn 13 күн бұрын

@@Nick-zp8wk Well everything will stay the same, as Palestine would not accept a one state solution with the state being Israel and neither will Israel vice versa. It seems like you want things to carry on the same.

@martinhill9261 13 күн бұрын

Ian has been supporting Israel and its actions in Gaza from day one.

@NoJusticeMTG 13 күн бұрын

Apt to have have someone from the Yugoslav trials. Netanyahu is a modern day Milosevic

@RobPires 13 күн бұрын

Ian would join the resistance if he was treated the way Palestinians have been treated for decades.

@lethalchocobo1886 13 күн бұрын

Nope, he would kollaborate.

@juniper150 12 күн бұрын

He was cautioned for assault, so he’d be a neat fit for the IDF

@timg5011 12 күн бұрын

@@juniper150Yeah, but that was on an OAP. And someone had to pull him off.

@BiggusDiggusable 13 күн бұрын

Nobody is equating the Israeli state with a terrorist organisation. Netanyahu's crimes and Hamas's stand by themselves and should be judged by themselves.

@gracemcginnity49 12 күн бұрын

I would also say that Isreal is a lot worse than Hamas and is in my mind and many others a terrorist organisation.

@alibulle6251 11 күн бұрын

How do you define a terrorist organisation.?Apply the same definition to Israel and see if it fits

@BiggusDiggusable 11 күн бұрын

@@alibulle6251 That's a non sequitur

@awakeant8079 13 күн бұрын

you do not have to be confused here : Israel is a reknown Apartheid State (recognized by UN) not a democratic state !

@user-qf1zg4zz8j 13 күн бұрын

And recognised as such by B'Tselem, Human rights watch and notably Amnesty international.

@carlomariaromano4320 12 күн бұрын

And very right wing too.

@phil9582 13 күн бұрын

If anything Israel should be held to higher standards

@zebedee6296 13 күн бұрын

Not only that, if Israel's claim to be democratic holds true, it makes Israelis more culpable for the actions of the IDF and the state of Israel than Gazans are responsible for the actions of Hamas.

@mogznwaz 12 күн бұрын

Why?

@mogznwaz 12 күн бұрын

@@zebedee6296Despicable comment.

@am1156 12 күн бұрын

@@mogznwaz True though.

@am1156 12 күн бұрын

@@mogznwaz Israel claims to be a democratic state. Rule of law etc... Their leaders elected by the people. Hamas is considered a terrorist group. Seeing the difference shouldn't be hard.

@tommybyrne5745 13 күн бұрын

I won’t be watching this show again .

@user-oc1oo1mx5y 13 күн бұрын

Me neither

@obasanjokapa2875 13 күн бұрын

2:32 you're not sure if u would go that far coz u see Israel as innocent regardless of covering this for over 7 months. Either you're in denial or biased 🤷🏿‍♂️

@humn_rights 13 күн бұрын

It doesn't matter whether you think if Natanyahu is a war criminal or not. The law and court procedures are the ones to decide.

@tjw52x 13 күн бұрын

Let's get some perspective here - one side lost around 1,200 people either through death or kidnap, the other side has lost over 35,000 people, including over 14,000 children. Israel will never get rid of Hamas by force, in fact what they have done so far will result in the greatest recruiting exercise for Hamas in generations, as the next few generations at least will want revenge over what Israel has done so far.

@gabrielamargolin5875 12 күн бұрын

Since when do you judge right and wrong by the numbers of casualties? Besides if you mention numbers at least check yourself the UN has reduced the by half of children and women don’t give false information…you embarrass yourself

@carlomariaromano4320 12 күн бұрын

@@gabrielamargolin5875 Numbers, of course, play a role, and the way ISR is fighting this war is excessively brutal and unjustified. The UN did not reduce the figure to nearly 35,000, but confirmed it. And the actual number of deaths will be significantly higher because many people are still missing and trapped beneath the damaged building. Even if the number of children killed is reduced by half, the death toll remains high. Furthermore, the deaths of men are no less tragic. Furthermore, ISR's attacks on aid workers, aid trucks, and foreign food relief, including baby food, are beyond evil. You're embarrassing yourself because ISR supporters keep bringing up the made up stories about the 40 babies and ovens and whatnot. Besides, of the 1200 people who lost their lives, 400 were military personnel, and many deaths were not caused by HMS.

@gabrielamargolin5875 2 күн бұрын

@@carlomariaromano4320 you are not giving facts you answer shows hate and ignorance of the truth.

@gavleopardi70 13 күн бұрын

Ian, educate yourself on international criminal law and perhaps you’d reach a different conclusion on whether Netanyahu should be indicted. Don’t just say “I don’t think I would (indict) Netanyahu.” Enlighten yourself man and you’ll reach the right conclusion.

@bluecheesey701 13 күн бұрын

Money talks with these people

@MrGengad 13 күн бұрын

@@bluecheesey701 They sell their mum if they could

@pekkadegroot8326 13 күн бұрын

I found it interesting that he concentrated on the judicial process (at least in this clip) and not on the grounds of the indictment and arrest warrant. Perhaps he knows that his view might be compromised.

@johnnyrocker7495 12 күн бұрын

He's less interested in receiving an honest education than spreading bogus propaganda.

@abdullahiahmed9222 13 күн бұрын

So the questions , to the west, what does natanyahu hv to do to commit war crime? Use nuke??? Cuz he has done everything else.

@spardax1068 13 күн бұрын

The only think they did was respond to a threat to their national security when a neighbor territory sent 4000 troops inside their border and murdered 20 civilian communities and attacked a music festival. In War civilians casualties must be avoided and only military assets should be targeted, but if military targets are inbedded in civilian areas it is not the responsibility of Israel to protect those civilians they are Hamas responsibility which initiated the war aggression with the attack and kidnapping of Israel population, Israel already does enough to protect Gaza civilians and by law they do not have to provide any aid to that population they are the enemy civilians, you should read the law first.

@dreamcoyote 12 күн бұрын

"by law they do not have to provide any aid to that population they are the enemy civilians, you should read the law first." I believe you are incorrect about that. Even with soldiers, if you take them as prisoners there are standards of care that are required. If you occupy a population, you do have to provide sustenance to them. Or are you arguing that it's perfectly legal to occupy and area and starve the population to death IF a group from that population committed a heinous act? That doesn't make any sense. Both the IDF AND Hamas can be doing illegal/unethical things.

@spardax1068 12 күн бұрын

@@dreamcoyote Those are different things, prisoners of war and obviously when they occupy some territory they have to provide the necessities and care for that population if they are in need so far they have not occupied territory with any population because most of the conflict they evacuate the population to controlled Hamas areas, while they flush Hamas troops from the North to the south, Israel beyond what many countries have done in any war until now have allowed foreign aid and they themselves have provided aid, not their fault Hamas steals some of it and sell it for profit, there are videos of rotten food on the floor because Hamas prefers to let it waste than give it to the population. Not excusing possible errors by IDF in any situation because stuff happens in War, at the end of this conflict we will learn what happened in full detail.

@dreamcoyote 12 күн бұрын

@@spardax1068 Please try to stop using run-on sentences. I can't even get through half of what you write. You are still essentially arguing that they have no responsibility if they cut off all food/medical support/etc from a populace and they certainly are doing that. The IDF controls how much food goes in. It is still illegal to starve out civilian populations. It is clear that the IDF is using food and aid as a weapon in this conflict. You don't "accidentally" shoot a white full size 18 wheeler going along a previously arranged safe route along the shoreline with a gun from a ship stationed close offshore. Might happen once, but not that many errors. "Stuff happens in war" including war crimes.

@sinders18 12 күн бұрын

@@spardax1068This is such a derivative view. That is not all that they did. It is well documented that Israel has been committing war crimes for decades before this attack. Israel is condemned hundreds of times every year by the UN for crimes

@kilamoblack7532 13 күн бұрын

Israel democracy🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@user-qf1zg4zz8j 13 күн бұрын

I agree with you but I associate the "crying with laughter" emojis with zee on ists justifying their more than plausible gen o cide.

@garyleighton1 13 күн бұрын

Yes for the examples in Gaza yes. You don't purposely starve people. And purposely target citizens.

@cowmilker1121 13 күн бұрын

If your doing a direct comparison Israel is by all metrics worse

@MrWhitmen1981 13 күн бұрын

Why wrong religion? 😂

@chrishall3247 13 күн бұрын

No, because of the over casualty count. Both pre Oct 7th and post Oct 7th

@michealhunt6607 13 күн бұрын

What does "democratic" have to do with any of this?. Just because a country is a democracy it doesn't mean they can do what they're doing and not be held to the same account as undemocratic countries Is it any wonder why a lot of countries think of double standards when it comes to things like International law?

@doggieclaude 13 күн бұрын

I'm baffled by this too. War crimes are war crimes, no matter who commits them. There should be no confusion, but our media seems intent to try to confuse people

@Barlos3131 12 күн бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking. I am tired of the way they are throwing the term Isreal is a democracy, which for some pathetic reason seems to give Isreal impunity over any crimes!

@boxingforselfdefence7620 13 күн бұрын

What does it matter whether Israel is a democracy or not, that's completely irrelevant. It's of not consequence whether we see them as being in a our (white) club with the democratic west. This is about conduct.

@BoloSparks 13 күн бұрын

TAKE YOUR PORTION OF BLAME MR DALE!

@peterstephenson3843 13 күн бұрын

It is absolutely not right to equate Hamas with Israel. Hamas is a result of Israel's human rights violations of the Palestinian people. Yes, Hamas has been responsible for some horrific crimes, but however you measure it what Israel has done is worse.

@Skygrey2943 13 күн бұрын

Yes because both have comitted acts of terrorism.

@uzialadogan5240 13 күн бұрын

Yes both, and somehow, I have more empathy for the people who are been occupied for decades.

@Skygrey2943 13 күн бұрын

@@uzialadogan5240 Same.

@spardax1068 13 күн бұрын

The only occupation here is the religion of peace progaganda inside your brain.

@Centaur987 13 күн бұрын

@uzialadogan5240 I don't, if they're cheering for hamas after they come back from killing innocent people and with hostages then I don't have sympathy for them and they need to be taught a lesson

@Skygrey2943 13 күн бұрын

@Centaur987 Does the same go for Israeli's who set up deck chairs to watch Gaza get bombed or when they torch aid trucks heading to Gaza?

@desmondirwin200 13 күн бұрын

Imagine the israeli government sharing a prison cell with hamas 😂😂😂😂

@devianadkar7969 13 күн бұрын

At that point bibi would actually use diplomacy.

@KarakuraNinja 13 күн бұрын

Finally, he would be forced to humble himself once he loses all weapons. Netanyahu will be so old in that cell. He is as old as the apartheid regime.

@nathanduclos5045 13 күн бұрын

The answer to your questions is thus, is-real is far far worse then hammas. And the bigotry and bias towards zionism on your show is so apparent to everyone else.

@Tigga490 13 күн бұрын

I wonder how Ian would feel if somebody broke into house and caused serious harm to him and his family. What would he do if the Mainstream media then tried to defend that person's actions by saying that Ian was a terrorist who should not have been living in that area?

@Centaur987 13 күн бұрын

In your scenario had Ian attacked that person first though? You seem happy to leave that part out

@Tigga490 13 күн бұрын

@Centaur987 Yes, he did. The moment the intruder violently broke into his house!

@Centaur987 13 күн бұрын

@@Tigga490 well then you're describing something that is different to the current situation which isn't helpful. Israel was attacked immediately upon its creation by the UN. It would be if Ians neighbour attack him but because as soon as the neighbour moved in Ian had been attacking him

@knilloc8095 13 күн бұрын

@@Centaur987it's creation was a attack

@Tigga490 13 күн бұрын

@Centaur987 the Palestinians were attacked when Israel was created!!! The creation of Israel was literally an attack on Palestine.

@EdwardLindon 13 күн бұрын

How hilarious/devastating that the guest's answer to Dale's silly question is basically, "Read the actual text".

@amjoker9837 13 күн бұрын

What has democracy to do when it comes to war crimes , is this like the last excuse for this extremist state ? A criminal is a criminal regardless how u describe him politically

@russelljames5631 13 күн бұрын

"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas," Netanyahu told his Likud party's Knesset members in March 2019. "This is part of our strategy" Haaretz, October 2023... I hate this guy so much. Who tf is shouting pro Hamas things at the marches? Such a disgusting lie.

@ryand141 13 күн бұрын

You hate which person and which disgusting lie?

@russelljames5631 13 күн бұрын

@@ryand141 Ian saying people are shouting pro Hamas things when clearly they are not.

@briansutton2566 13 күн бұрын

Correct me if I’m wrong 😑 did Isreal support ham-s at first so they could get rid of plo and they thought they would have more control

@ryand141 13 күн бұрын

@@briansutton2566 Yes, they did.

@molsy1768 13 күн бұрын

@russelljames5631 only there are people shouting pro hamas things. I used to be friends with some of them. You haven't been to every march, or know every protestor, so the fact that you would categorically state it doesn't happen at all is moronic on the face of it. You literally couldn't know that, but that won't stop you from slinging more mud eh?

@TheAngryWexican. 13 күн бұрын

Now we will see what certain countries actually think of international law. When it suits they enforce it...

@flyagaric1607 13 күн бұрын

His boss is from the tribe you cannot criticise. What did you expect from LBC

@carlomariaromano4320 12 күн бұрын

Dale is a Zio himself.

@TheAngryWexican. 13 күн бұрын

Dale wont have Garlick on again. He looked disgusted when the judge gave his view

@tonyaltass8290 13 күн бұрын

The question is not equating Hamas with Israel PM. It is quite simply a fact of has Israel committed war crimes. If so then that fact that it was done whilst engaging in a war with Hamas is irrelevant. A war crime is a war crime irrespective of the reason or the states/parties involved

@karlkerr7348 13 күн бұрын

Is it right to equate Hamas with the apartheid state of Israel

@AodhanBeag 13 күн бұрын

No but the ICC is dealing with individuals rather than the groups as a whole. The latter part is determined by ICJ….which will be a much slower process and one that I imagine IsNotReal will do its best to drag on and delay as long as it can to postpone the conclusion and the huge damage it will do to its PR (even more damage)

@bobjones-ns4bv 13 күн бұрын

Just the framing gives a hint, where its going, a war crime is a war crime, who did it is irrelevant, no one gets a pass.

@AdamShivers-bt2hs 12 күн бұрын

Can anyone reading this imagine they children being illegally detained, indefinitely, mistreated, terrorized, humiliated, then TIMES that by 75+ years. What absolute cowards!

@BoloSparks 13 күн бұрын

6:50 watch it sink in, Mr Dales eyes swivel as he clearly finds himself on the wrong side.

@adnanmasood9891 13 күн бұрын

Ian dale’s face says it all 😂

@markstephen9044 13 күн бұрын

If Hamas is a terrorist organisation because of its callous disregard for the lives of innocent Israelis, is not Israel a terrorist state because of its callous disregard for the lives of innocent Palestinians?

@user-qf1zg4zz8j 13 күн бұрын

And if you compare the scale of the crimes? and the context?

@RevolutionaryVision-pc3gw 13 күн бұрын

Why can Israel have an army but Palestine can not?

@Andrew4Handel 10 күн бұрын

@@RevolutionaryVision-pc3gwBecause the Hamas charter calls for the destruction of Israel. It is an Islamofacist terror organisation who stated aim is to create a Caliphate. When it starts a war this is what happens.

@BoloSparks 13 күн бұрын

I want the Brit to imagine not being able to sing the words "...never never never be slaves....", because that is the song of the palestinian also.

@saveriomadia8867 13 күн бұрын

I cringe every time I hear Israel being called a democracy. The Israeli track record tells a different story!

@talksmoke1190 13 күн бұрын

Wrong

@frederickfrederick5839 13 күн бұрын

Hi is a criminal

@karlkerr7348 13 күн бұрын

Play it to his advantage, what being indicted as a war criminal. You need to retire Dale.

@mathewgrover6455 13 күн бұрын

Can you imagine Putin and Netanyahu sharing a cell together Sitting on the cold stone floor, telling stories of each other's crimes.

@aTADtoofar 13 күн бұрын

The question is, are they guilty of what they are being accused of?

@andtri716 13 күн бұрын

It's not equating, Israel is far worse than Hamas!

@pt.gphindonesiakapital2382 13 күн бұрын

Ian, for some reason looks sad!

@darv011 13 күн бұрын

Nobody is equating/comparing Israel with Hamas! Khan isn't. He has a separate set of allegations.

@stardust5467 13 күн бұрын

Is it right to equate the resistance with the vicious genocidal state?

@user-vj5ml8hy8m 13 күн бұрын

equating white and brown is outrageous.

@bluestar6879 13 күн бұрын

Both sides have people with all the skin tones possible, from blond, blue-eyed scandinavian-looking types to African-appearing people. Perhaps -this is the only thing that both sides would agree on. Whoops !

@blurtam188 13 күн бұрын

Yup!!

@desmondirwin200 13 күн бұрын

Whatever show one black high ranking official in Israel a country of 7 million and I'm not talking about brown arabs@@bluestar6879

@EdwardLindon 13 күн бұрын

@@bluestar6879 But this is not how people in Europe and America view them, which is all that matters when we're talking about how racism determines our different responses to the two sides. For example, when I suffered Islamophobic racism in France, the fact that I am not Muslim was not relevant.

@viciousmindzentertainment9307 13 күн бұрын

@@bluestar6879 they eastern European dna proved it they banned dna test right after...they need to give back the land and return to their place of origin

@Rea84 13 күн бұрын

"i'm not sure i'd go that far" hunnybun luckily courts don't work on our feelings.

@justarandomdude6175 12 күн бұрын

You condemn Israel: hey! But what about Hamas? You condemn both: hey! Are you equating Israel to Hamas? For these people it’s unacceptable to even criticize Israel

@OofieDooples 13 күн бұрын

Yeah they arent equal. Israel has done significantly worse crimes than hamas has ever done

@mogznwaz 12 күн бұрын

Oh really? I don’t think so.

@user-ry2kt9fo5m 12 күн бұрын

I agree Israeli is far worst than Hamas

@kenmackenzie7338 13 күн бұрын

ERM what did the Americans do to the Japanese civilians???????????

@seanfagan8490 13 күн бұрын

Also a war crime

@al-khwarizmi769 13 күн бұрын

Democracy is just another name for "he's on our side".

@haroonabbas4249 13 күн бұрын

I don't get why this is such an issue. In order to request a warent there must have been evidence... Are we saying because your state is a "democracy " evidence of war crimes do not apply?

@MCPDeveloper 12 күн бұрын

Equal before the law is not the same as equal in criminal extent. However, it seems that Israel has killed way more innocents than Hamas. To that extent at least, you cannot equate their culpability.

@userxyz64 13 күн бұрын

"Isreal democratic state"???? Apartheid state more like!

@whycantiremainanonymous8091 13 күн бұрын

What democratic state?

@AbdulParkar-zb8xy 13 күн бұрын

Typical of you that you have to compare everything back to hamas rather than what Israel is doing. Both should be assessed separately and on it own merits of the actions taken by both parties- wake up and do your job

@Zealith 13 күн бұрын

He's not the lead judge. he is the ICC prosecutor.

@TheSigma192 13 күн бұрын

Simple: Oppressor Vs oppressed

@talksmoke1190 13 күн бұрын

No self inflicted cry baby for 75 years

@knowyuhgrow420 13 күн бұрын

Was to free the hostage the main task of the idf ?

@aslantech52 12 күн бұрын

I think the lawyer would know this very well that just because someone hasnt been convicted of war crimes it doesnt mean they havent committed them.

@SalehR118 13 күн бұрын

35000 + people have died and Ian is still not sure if he'd "go that far to indict him" - Come on Ian, when will it be the rignt time then? 👀

@edaleman2758 13 күн бұрын

That moment you realise your on the side of the bad guys 💀🇮🇱💀🇺🇸💀🇬🇧

@user-qf1zg4zz8j 13 күн бұрын

They knew, now they realise they've been found out.

@mohamedmoledina6403 13 күн бұрын

Well he doesnt want to b sacked like sangeeta myska bring myska back

@ernestandrews2206 12 күн бұрын

Why can’t these so called journalists not accept what happened to Palestinians before October 7th and they’re supposed to be educated people or are they being told what to report

@Kheiroo110 13 күн бұрын

The right question is : IS IT RIGHT TO EQUATE THE COLONIZER , CRIMINAL AND GENOCIDAL AGGRESSOR, WITH ITS VICTIM ?

@BrodaPaul 13 күн бұрын

Democratic 😂😂

@webleydevelopment 13 күн бұрын

At least France has stepped up. Vive la France.

@chrisashton9218 13 күн бұрын

We talk a lot about an international rule based system. Those rules must be applied evenly or it means nothing. Both Hamas and the Israeli government must be held to the same standard.

@jonathanstewart7838 13 күн бұрын

You can't second guess Israel's response and tailor the law to their political reaction. Has Israel committed war crimes? If there is a case to answer then the warrant should be issued. The ICC will present their case to the 3 judges and they will decide on it. The argument here that they shouldn't issue a warrant because it has political consequences is effectively saying some bad actors are above the law. No such argument is made against Hamas why would it be they are terrorists. This is a jolt to Israel's supporters who are in denial of Israel's actions, have argued that Israel has not simply the right to defend itself but will defend its war crimes using self-defence as a cover. So there you have it these war criminals agree on something.

@bikerd12 13 күн бұрын

This quote can help explain what’s happening to the Palestinians. “There is a need now for strong and brutal reaction. We need to be accurate about timing, place and those we hit. If we accuse a family-we need to harm them without mercy, women and children included. Otherwise, this is not an effective reaction… There is no need to distinguish between guilty and not guilty.” - Ben Gurion, first prime minister of Israel

@pieinher67 13 күн бұрын

What about Sunak and Starma? Those scoundrels must NOT be let off the hook either. They have deeply offended against the people of the UK and we don't forget the dishonour they have spewed on us all.

@user-qf1zg4zz8j 13 күн бұрын

Starmer: "I am a zee onist without qualification" - even at the expense of British parliamentary democracy.

@nazeckbooley990 12 күн бұрын

Since Sangeeta was fired this radio station is a joke

@ErdenTeoman 13 күн бұрын

Democratic? yeah ok! even if it actually was a democracy, what on earth difference would that make? can a democracy not commit crimes? what a ludicrous headline!

@Albogaciev 13 күн бұрын

If they hadn't turned on the Hamas people, they would have shouted, "No arrest warrant has been issued against Hamas, you work for Hamas." And now they and their supporters are asking the question, "is it right to put Netanyahu next to Haniyeh?" In all cases, you try to justify your Nazis.

@user-wl5vu7tm9j 13 күн бұрын

1,200 can never be equal to 35,000 deaths ,ICC ,ICJ know mathematical process

@BoloSparks 13 күн бұрын

"IF THEY ARE ISSUED" - They have been announce DALE! FFS could you obfuscate a topic more by suggesting the warrent wont be served. THEY ARE GOING TO THE HAGUE!!!!

@user-qf1zg4zz8j 13 күн бұрын

Unfortunately the warrants haven't been issued yet but I pray that political pressure will not prevail over justice.

@anthonywilson-qk6bl 13 күн бұрын

Israel has elements of democracy, but I feel has lost their way in response to October 7. No one should be above the law.

@Jrh1471 13 күн бұрын

Dear Ian, your question of should we equate the two is completely absurd! Both sides should be judged by their own respective actions, furthermore Kareem Khan KC and his office have analysed the facts/evidence of numerous sources thus deeming it so that the required threshold to indeed initiate indictments and arrest warrants has surpassed. For you to come on air and state you do not think that indictments should be made against Israel clearly demonstrates that you indeed have behaved in such a way that does amount to the destruction of your journalistic impartiality and credibility.

@nomorejunkmalemateuk2009 12 күн бұрын

dale is not sure about anything these days . when a state murders 40,000 civilians and he dont have the guts to say NothingYahu is a war criminal just shows how shallow he is.