Such bias honestly but I guess Madrid get a pass because it's prestige

Yeah you're actually right. Madrid assembled damn near the Avengers to hold the UCL by the neck for a few years.

@@HarmvanderWilt yeah but in this video they mentioned how people are concerned that Man City are now in 2 UCL finals in the last 3 years and if something needs to be done about it lol

UEFA banned City on 0 Proof PL press 100+ charges on City When UEFA couldn't prove 1 City Vs Establishment?🤔

great point - although the same argument is used by Real themselves when justifying the super league

it's interesting watching that mentality develop/improve over the past decade or so. I still remember when they went to Madrid, City had a decent team back then, Kompany Toure Silva etc yet the collective mentality was like a rabbit in the headlights. The same when Bayern came to the Etihad and Robben and co had them about 3 nil up in the first half. It's taken a while for City to develop that belief that a big club should have. I'm not sure they'd have managed that without bringing in Pep.

UEFA banned City on 0 proof UEFA to let City win CL?🤔

Exactly, it’s cheating

Where would he go thou? PSG is too easy, no club in Italy have the money he usually spend, Barcelona is very fine with Xavi and i doubt he will go to nation since it takes too much time between games to coach his style of football

@@brothatisfunnyhe didn’t really spend much at barca tbf, a lot of the starters were youth graduates

@@brothatisfunny Before covid I wouldve said Juve but they're in the gutter at the moment. Perhaps lets see who Inter's new owners will be and how willing they are to spend, that could be a potential option for him. Of course if he wants to try and shed his image of going to places with the resources already in place he should go to anyone of Italy's biggest clubs

Inter are in some ways a bad team for City since they play a 5-3-2 where it is basically 6-2-2 without the ball and they work ferociously hard to win the ball back so it won't be easy to score against them but they are too imprecise in midfield to beat CIty, unless they score at least one worldie, and CIty have a brain-fade. Pep won't overthink this one - he doesn't need to. They do have a threat on the break and Acerbi will give Haaland a hard time (painful might be a better word) but i can't see their midfield coping with CIty and that means they'll need luck and even then, City have plenty of gears and plenty of options on the bench. But if Lukaku starts and Dumfries finds space and the Ref allows some physicality then if Inter nick a lead they can defend it.

@@CarlinConnolly Its a good thing its a final, all form will have gone out the window. Inter know they'll have to play the perfect game and they'll have all the motivation in the world to win. Practically everyone, including a few of those city players, believe they've already won it. Don think I need to explain more on that front.

All I see is jealousy.. if city weren’t winning no one would care just like Chelsea who have spent so much and will likely spend 200mil more but because they’re not winning no one cares. This is just jealousy speaking

So true

Yup. Those big clubs in europe complaing, forget that in their own leagues they have pretty much absolute superiority. In the interest in fairness would they not give up some of their privilledges to make it more even.

That was about as even handed as anyone could possibly be. Did you even watch the clip? They said Man City are dominant and more of a force than Barca/RMadrid/Bayern/PSG because the PL has the best revenues. At the same time, you can't deny that their road to success was paved by money from Abu Dhabi. City play amazing football, and is no doubt coached by the preeminent genius in football today. Hell, their recruitment has been amazing and puts Man U, Chelsea, even Liverpool to shame (i think Haaland, Akanji and Alvarez put together cost the same as Nunez). But the resources they have smoothes over all the friction you might stumble over if you were owned by individual billionaires (Glazers, FSG, Kroenke) as opposed to a rich government that literally makes a football club its soft power project. Look at Newcastle - from relegation bound to 4th place. Don't tell me oil money doesnt make a difference. Amazed how knee jerk and shallow your comment is.

@@thariqrudywilloughby660not a single person here has said money doesn’t matter. You wrote a whole essay about stuff nobody said. The point is that it’s a shallow video. They spoke for 8+ minutes and didn’t actually say anything

Yep, but it all falls on deaf ears because we're supposed to be blinded by the football. The average cost of the City team that beat Real last week was something like 56 million quid. There were two players in the first team who cost under 40 million quid. Not one youth team player started the game. The total cost of the team was over 620 million pounds. If City hadn't won, it would have been a massive failure, considering how much the team cost. Football has become so 'meh' and it'll get worse.

@@gentleken7864 don't get me wrong, it was a game of old money in football, and new money, i.e. oil states buying clubs. I'm all for clubs getting investment, development in local areas, but it's so wrong how it's been passed off as a good thing. United had a Ruppert Murdoch take over rejected, on the premises of keeping competition, but how can anyone compete with city, Newcastle, and PSG? They can make endless mistakes and fix the boxes so they run at a profit. Atleast Chelsea could admit they were bleeding money. There's no way city pull in the profits they do, you don't just jump ahead of Liverpool, United, Madrid, Barcelona, Milan in a space of 10 years and blow them out of the water, it doesn't happe

If city weren't cheating they wouldn't be able to afford that squad and you would've beat them, they made real Madrid redundant, your fans and market don't matter anymore because one of the smallest teams in the prem just Cheated arguably the biggest team in the world, united and Liverpool dominate Manchester, city are tiny in comparison, you were robbed.

And cheat

I mean a PL team just walked over the supposed best teams in the world like they were mid table teams... Barca couldn't even make the knockouts and both milan teams are mediocre at best.

@@Loosetweezers sevilla who are struggled all year made top 4 team look like sunday league side

Listen mate, this is The Athletic. Stop talking sense and get back on track with the "City are cheats" stuff the punters all love.

Narrative ignores all facts! If anything the premier benefited from city’s current presence and the league is competitive no where near being farmers league.

115 charges

@@Loosetweezers 116 lawyers

All built on cheating. And that's what this team will be remembered for.

When Chelsea came along and ruined the party in top 4 premiere became exciting. Man City took it one step further especially with man United being pushed off that season under Mancini where they went on to win the league still stayed with me. With tv deals that followed making prem richer showed impact of Man City breaking up the top 4. The benefit has been felt and it is crazy time now top managers coming to premier league look at Everton and Ancelotti. We really have to look at how bad Man City is making the league when next tv deal renewal soon is renegotiated. I don’t think it will be going lower.

Your right, they haven't spent as much, but we all know Chelsea run on losses and have to balance books with selling talent, Uniteds cash reserve's have all but run out, but city are now left unchecked to spend as they please as long as they sign a new dodgy sponsorship. It's crazy

@@Jellyisamazing Chelsea were basically doing exactly the same thing as City. There were also a small club. The main difference was that when FFP hit they were a bit bigger as they benefited from a massive bank rolling owner pre-FFP and the extra commercial revenue they get due to that success. Only reason Chelsea are in trouble is because they have spent more in the last 12 months then even the biggest spenders in world football spend in half a decade. United aren't out of cash. They haven't had "cash" since the takeover. They are able to continue spending due to thier revenue and regardless of whatever happens with ownership, that will continue since even if they don't end up selling, its clearly been demonstrated how much people ARE willing to pay for the club and therefore its valuation has shot up, enabling more money to leveraged from the banks. The fact is, whilst they have signed a few suspect sponsorship deals... they probably won't need to much longer. Because next time those contracts come up for renewal... well they will be worth that. A Team that wins 6 out of the last 7 leagues in the world most watched football league, playing a brand of football admired by all around the world, with a manager who most people regard quite fondly as a geninus and a pretty decent bloke. And now European success too? Look, I'm an Arsenal fan so I could sing a grand old song about how all these clubs spending money is unfair. But ultimately, it is what it is. If City were spending vastly more then thier peers then sure. Maybe thats a fair argument. But ultimately, City haven't spent more then Chelsea and United. Both of those clubs are been on a equal economic footing with City and they lost because City just did it better. They deserve plaudits for that.

There is a period that when City ‘s money is destroying the league narrative can be pushed for so long, when in it is actually mismanagement at other clubs who are not successful on pitch. This narrative can only go on for so long. There is so much money swelling in premier league and City being good only benefits the league getting more money. Watch next tv deals renewal go off the roof. The 115 chargers is football politics yet again.

they are about to win 5 in 6 after this season. those other "farmer" leagues are not winnning the league by 20 pts every szn. its the same where team pretends they are competing and lose towards the end.

In order to be competitive the standards need to be lower. Serie A has lost Juve's quality but has become the most competitive league in Europe, La Liga has decreased quality and become slightly less predictable but still rather boring. The last few years have certainly been more boring compared to older PL years due to a higher standard. The late 90s/early 2000s PL was much lower in quality but arguably the most competitive it ever was.

@@abduraxmaan450 😂😂😂 I’ve got news for you… serie a was just won by a massive gap of 14 points… all you had to do was google and you would’ve not looked silly

@@lorddiegocosta3307 😂 so you’d rather watch shit football as long as it’s competitive? There’s Sunday league for that, maybe stick to that and let the actual football fans watch some good football? Also, how on earth are you even talking to city as a Chelsea fan… you guys just spent like half a billion anyways and you’re going to spend another 200 at least when poch decides he doesn’t want some of those 40 players and wants more players 😂😭🤦🏻‍♂️

Would we really be having this conversation if City weren’t winning? I don’t think so… this all comes from jealousy of city winning soo much. No one is talking about the amount Chelsea have spent and how much they did spend before under abromvic… no one cared about the money when United were spending more than the rest of the league when they were dominating but now when it’s city… all these kids want to throw their toys out of the pram… listen… cry me a river because city will carry on and won’t give a shit about any of these “pundits” 😂

Their team that beat Real cost an average of 52 million for each player. Arsenal didn't bottle it, they just couldn't swap out 50 million pound players for other 50 million pound players.

How did we spend stupidly? We renovated our base and were the most successful team in England for 20 years. We did everything City did but we needed less investment as we were closer to the finished article than City were

Liverpool bottled for 4 years? They came close and didn't quite make it against a team who spent way more and are being charged now because of it. Is bottled and bottling just the new word for dumb football fans or what?

You think l’autarcique is better than vini Jr ????LOL

UEFA banned City on 0 proof PL press 100+ charges on City When UEFA couldn't prove 1 City Vs Establishment?🤔

Last 8yrs eh, in the last 5yrs City`s net spend is +£18.36m while their rivals doing it the right way are chelsea -£665m, utd -£595m, arsenal -£483m, spurs -£424m newcastle -£375m, and lpool -£278m. Yeah I can see your point?????

Sure, think if there's substantial evidence that city have cheated year in year out - they deserve the harshest punishment. It's dodgy as to why the Premier league didn't punish them right away. What's the point in throwing around allegations ? So it is one of 2 things : The premier league were forced by the cartel clubs to forcefully take up the investigation that took up many years to come to conclusion - but they never had substantial evidence to enforce a punishment. The other point is city are not guilty but Premier league wants to pretend to be strict and severe as a direct response to the UK govt's white papers on an independent arbitrator Look at what UEFA did - they found city guilty of cheating - and then banned them outright for 2 seasons from the UCL. Why not ban/relegate city straight away ?Why appoint a panel and then go through the judiciary process? It's important to note that the UAE and UK have vital trade links. The UK Govt wants this to be brushed aside asap.

​@brianshockledge3241 Think you're not understanding how spending works. They spent ridiculous amounts to get the players....that they then sell later, which makes the last 5 years figures look OK. But it was the obvious cheating that got them to that point. And yes, it is cheating, and is not to be respected at all. No-one wants a a procession of owners cheating by spending crazy amounts to buy success.

@@ptbauro what a stupid essy u wrote? When did city got 2 yrs. Ban??

City going after Utd 3peat Howard Webb made Chief Ref Rashford Offside goal given Vs City UEFA banned City on 0 proof CL,FA Cup Winner already decided?🤔

Presumably because United weren't being funded by a Nation State and hadn't broken over 100 FFP rules.

United didn't cheat to do it

@@mozan33r71 United would intimidate referees and spend so much money that teams like Blackburn, Chelsea, and Leeds nearly ruined their futures trying to keep up. They would also make sure to buy the best talent in the rest of the league so the rest couldn't build their sides. It just wasn't considered cheating because it wasn't foreign money propping it up

Just a reminder. Accusing a rival of cheating without proof IS cheating

​@@infinitedivisibility allegedly, unless youre willing to hang people without trial. Plus, blame the english FA for allow8ng this shit

You work behind the scenes at the club do you? maybe your their accountant. You claim the team was built on financial fraud then say IF they are guilty. Most of the clubs trophies won under Pep have come since 2018 which dont come under the allegations the trophies are going nowhere. The allegations are the same as bent eufa tried to stitch them up with around five over multiple seasons. Thirty more are about non cooperation, nobody in their right mind would cooperate with somebody trying to stab them in the back. The rest are a lot of waffle to make the numbers up so it looks more serious than it is. By the way the pl can do nothing about fraud that would be a matter for a criminal court.

@@brianshockledge3241 Please go do your own research. They WERE GUILTY and got off on a statue of limitations. They ARE GUILTY now but that doesn't mean they'll be charged as such... that was my "if", there is zero debate if they committed financial fraud or not.

@@Mrstik Which is the narrative the red media keep pushing, it`s not true they were not found guilty. The fine was for non cooperation nothing to do with guilt.

UEFA banned City on 0 proof PL press 100+ charges on City When UEFA couldn't prove 1 City Vs Establishment?🤔

@@Mrstik just accept the fact that Man City is the best team in the world rn and stop talking bollocks , you know absolutely nothing

I don't think Grealish was worth anything near his price tag but at the same time he rarely loses possession, carries the ball well, is good in tight spaces etc. So he's a good addition to the squad and will potentially develop into a first team player

The difference is they weren’t owned by a scum Muslim country

Ok I’ve just accused you of robbery. You must be guilty because I stated it. Fool

Sounds like you've made up your mind on the issue of City's guilt. Oh dear; how sad; never mind.

@@user-bh2xq6wg1e yeah of course. Knobber

@@user-bh2xq6wg1e not me - the premiere league made up it’s mind and brought charges. i’d remind you the prem league are a members only club so for them to bring charges on one of it’s own speaks to the extent of the problem.

Well run clubs don’t get issued 100+ charges by the very organisation that should value them the most. Cheats.

Plus their way around ffp has been to get massively over inflated sponsorship deals with businesses in bed with the owner that are way above market value, and they then petitioned for it to be outlawed to prevent Newcastle or any other club from doing the same thing but not making it retroactive so they could keep theirs in place. Scummy as hell.

Facts.

It wasn’t plastic when it was Man Utd and wasn’t done by cheating

No 1, It was a problem when United were winning every season. No 2 Man United weren't winning the League with 100 points every year No 3 United didn't have over 100 charges of cheating against them. Countries shouldn't be allowed to own teams. It's ridiculous.

@@adtastic1533 assuming theyre guilty without trial is not how the law works.

United revenue was “organic” from TV rights and commercial deals (even during their downfall post SAF they maintained commercial deal strength). The issue with City (and potentially in the future Newcastle) is that it’s basically immense capital injection. When it happened to Chelsea, it wasn’t sovereign wealth but an individual wealth. Sovereign wealth is a whole different universe than commercial deals and billionaire individual wealth.