Is Postecoglou on the right track at Spurs?
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Күн бұрынTottenham Hotspur have 12 games left in the Premier League, could they have a chance at Champions League football with a top four finish?
Spurs sit fifth, just behind Aston Villa, with questions if they could be even higher in the league table had their season not been hampered by injury.
How does Ange Postecoglou’s start as Spurs head coach in the Premier League compare with the likes of Jurgen Klopp and Mikel Arteta?
Ayo Akinwolere is joined by The Athletic’s Tottenham correspondent Jack Pitt-Brooke and German football writer Seb Stafford-Bloor to discuss.
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00:00 Intro
00:30 How is Postecoglou doing so far at Tottenham?
05:00 How have Spurs improved?
07:03 What problems have they overcome?
11:09 What is Ange building?
13:34 Tottenham Hotspur players
15:55 Podcast habits survey
16:22 What does next season look like for Spurs?
26:33 Ange Postecoglou’s brand of football
29:44 A Liverpool without Klopp
33:36 The future of Spurs
36:35 Outro
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@loluntilafternext6173 2 ай бұрын
Ange has stuck to and perfected his formula for nearly 20 years.. at each new club he gets them ready faster and faster.. Ange is a winner every where he goes.. EVERYWHERE..
@jeremygomeze4920 2 ай бұрын
Not so successful with the socceroos
@loluntilafternext6173 2 ай бұрын
@@jeremygomeze4920 Asian Cup is a failure? 🏆
@elastotec173 2 ай бұрын
@@jeremygomeze4920only coach to win the Asian Cup plus qualified for two World Cups - how many EPL managers have qualified for a World Cup?
@ozzymick1431 Ай бұрын
@@elastotec173: 👏👏💯👍💪🤛🦘🇦🇺🍻
@Bully1973 Ай бұрын
@@jeremygomeze4920He won an Asian Cup!!! With a transitional squad.😂
@vinicoc 2 ай бұрын
ange is the best man i have ever seen speaking with fans and media on football world. super stoic, humble and ambitious. for me he's the right man with no doubts.
@grahammerry7031 2 ай бұрын
He'd be the right bloke if we had a different chairman
@user-jl1ry7qp1y 2 ай бұрын
the right man for speaking to people or to manage spurs? He is nearly 60 years old, if he was that good as a manager, why has he always managed micky mouse clubs?
@vinicoc 2 ай бұрын
@@user-jl1ry7qp1y you know nothing about football, mate. these eurocentric way of thinking about relevance of conquers have diminished your capacity to think to embarassing levels.
@grahammerry7031 2 ай бұрын
@@vinicoc You have to put meat on the bone there mate. Explain why he knows nothing about football and why you do it seems
@vinicoc 2 ай бұрын
@@grahammerry7031 well mate, say that he only managed mickey mouse cubs is a atrocious statement, that is only done cause of his eurocentric way of seeing the sport. ange was successful on australia, japan, scotland and international football in very different scenarios. adored in every place he has managed, but not just that, he arrived at the premier league with the best start on 10 games a manager have ever had, and is having a very solid first season at tottenham. how many managers on england today have worked so hard to earn their places?? i am not belittling him, but arteta literally got his first ever job at a big 6 club. the mate is highly connected with the club culture and the supporters. and if you want to talk about high reputation managers that managed tottenham in the last years, antonio conte and josé mourinho, they did not solve anything. that is why this mate knows nothing about football, and barely anyone that uses the term "mickey mouse clubs" do, because is just a pathetic way of belittle foreign football.
@ianalderman6338 2 ай бұрын
Lets not forget Spurs lost Harry Kane at the very end of the transfer window and didnt replace him. A brand new GK and the majority of new signings had no Premier League experience, and a manager who previous to this had only managed in Scotland, Japan, Australia and Greece. He has done wonders IMO
@geoffstern7652 Ай бұрын
Spurs did not loose Harry Kane! Levy chose to sell him when he was still in contract at the club...
@northernbloke6787 Ай бұрын
Is he there anymore? Then they lost him. The how isn't relevant to that.
@mnoypoiuyt65r4w8 Ай бұрын
@@geoffstern7652 ...cause Harry wanted to leave
@StefThe0 Ай бұрын
you cant replace Harry Kane. he is one of the best in the world. You cant replace Messi or Ronaldo etc etc
@boabnaelimitskeenan6848 Ай бұрын
Don't be arrogant in your comments. Everywhere he has gone, he has won silverware. Just because he now working in England does not matter? Your league has far more money than any league in the world. Alex Ferguson, Arsène Wenger are 2 of the most successful managers in Premier league history. Both where succesful before coming to England. It is down to their mentality and philosophy. In my opinion Angecis cut with the same cloth. He will be a massive success in England no matter if it is Spurs or elsewhere. He is a born winner.
@tbsc5088 2 ай бұрын
Spurs fan of 35 years here, for me Ange has been a breathe of fresh air with regards to how he manages the media, how he talks about the process he is undertaking, and the way he presents after a win/loss. We have made some excellent additions to the squad already, and in all likelihood will made additional sizeable changes in the summer. This will take a few more windows, in my view at least another two (summer and winter 2024) to get the adequate depth in the squad to make Top 4 'more' of a certainty. The only thing I will say is that the euphoria around Ange has started to run out within a lot of the fan base IMO, and he needs to start getting consistent performances. We still see Spurs either winning 3-0 away, or losing 0-1 at home a week later.
@purpleyranger 2 ай бұрын
We were 8th last year ffs, I cant fathom how anyone can blame Ange for anything given we ve been decimated by injuries.
@joeboxerrr 2 ай бұрын
3-0 away is optimistic, can't buy a clean sheet to save our lives at the moment
@tbsc5088 2 ай бұрын
@@purpleyranger - I’ve not blamed anybody buddy, I’m simply saying that the euphoria around Ange’s appointment is dissipating a little and ‘the process’ needs to start returning some consistency.
@tbsc5088 2 ай бұрын
@@joeboxerrr - True!, leaky.
@koutanot Ай бұрын
Maybe ten windows and u might actually win a carabao cup again .hang in there
@00wrongun 2 ай бұрын
Been a Spurs fan since 1981, Ange hasn't got the full team assembled yet, a few more quality player's and lets see what the team is made of next season and fans complaining about the style of play, I love attacking rather than park the bus football
@zicowilco60 Ай бұрын
Beat you by 5 yrs ....1976 I was 16 yrs old and brought up as an arsenal supporter by my father who I was so close to ...I had to tell him I've changed to SPURS ...I ALSO WENT TO HIGHBURY GROVE school...my sportsmaster was CLIFF JONES ...IMAGINE THAT 😂😂😂
@recyclebinification 2 ай бұрын
People forget how dominant spurs were before their injury/suspension crisis post-Chelsea game. With some more reinforcements in the summer (which their competitors might not be able to match), they will likely be challenging next season.
@Insaneronald 2 ай бұрын
Already Bergvall coming in the summer
@recyclebinification 2 ай бұрын
@@Insaneronald Yeah but he might not be ready straight away for first team. I’m sure Ange will bring in more proven players as well.
@richardbyrnes8398 Ай бұрын
Two or three should do it.
@MrHardnut333 Ай бұрын
@@richardbyrnes8398eze Nico williams kwp
@tomclark4268 2 ай бұрын
A wider context is that the league is WAY more competitive than at the start of Klopp or even Arteta. That he is so ahead of them after 26 games is remarkable.
@alzer6467 2 ай бұрын
Or maybe apply context and realise that every situation is different. E.g. Arteta had a way worse team, took over his 1st job during covid and wasn't given money until he cleared the squad and cut the wage bill. This is such a basic argument that Klopp and Arteta took a while so other managers will take a while. Not all managers are Arteta and Klopp. So now we see people advocating for managers like Poch and Ten Hag, who won't succeed with their flawed tactical set ups, to be given time because Arteta was given time. Having said that Ange looks better than Poch and Ten Hag.
@WaniZame 2 ай бұрын
No that’s recency bias. Chelsea were a far more formidable force back then. And Liverpool were starting on a far far lower footing than spurs in terms of player quality. And don’t compare them! Klopp broke into top 4 in his first full season it took Arteta 3.5 years!
@SiddharthJaggavarapu 2 ай бұрын
@alzer6467 ange walked into a team that finished 8th last season, with a manager that drove the team's confidence into the ground. Then Kane left just before the season kicked off. Half the team was injured for most of the season thus far. I would say ange has walked into a situation that is no better than when arteta took over at arsenal or klopp at Liverpool. What he has done thus far is incredible.
@alzer6467 2 ай бұрын
@@SiddharthJaggavarapuhe was given a pile of cash and he's got 2 points more than Conte. Relax. He's done well and the media love him. He's not not a title winning manager but he'll get Spurs top 4 more often than not.
@SiddharthJaggavarapu 2 ай бұрын
@@alzer6467 lol. He lost a generational talent and spent that money wisely. Van de ven and Madison cost as much as Havertz. Klopp spent the Coutinho money and took a while to implement his ideas. He won the CL and the PL in an era of city domination. Arteta spent 3 seasons and a fortune to keep the seat warm for city.
@gentleken7864 2 ай бұрын
I'm an Arsenal fan, I watched Spurs play Everton a few weeks back and I don't think I've been so impressed in a while by a performance as I was with Van De Ven. He was everywhere. His reading of the game was incredible. HIs recovery pace was incredible. He gave no one a sniff. Yes, it was Everton, but his all round game was absolutely there. If he keeps improving he'll be one of the three best defenders in the league, easily.
@alfredvanravenswaay1260 Ай бұрын
It,s amazing how fast he is despite his serious hamstring injury.
@God_is_an_Atheist666 Ай бұрын
He already is in my humble opinion. 4th if you still consider Stones a CB
@hulkboifanki 2 ай бұрын
he's doing way better than klopp and arteta in their first seasons. 1000% on the right track.
@user-jl1ry7qp1y 2 ай бұрын
he's quite an old man - only managed micky mouse clubs. if he was any good, you would expect him to manage a porper club. Arteta got his first manager job at arsenal, took over a big basket of rotten apples
@reeegs90 Ай бұрын
@user-jl1ry7qp1y clueless comment! Managing any club is difficult, and he could have managed a "proper" club years ago if there wasn't such a strong bias against managers from smaller footballing nations. By your reasoning, Lampard is a good manager because he has managed "proper" teams. It's not just who Ange managed, its how he got teams playing.
@shin2463 Ай бұрын
Oh get lost chicken club you will never be better then arsenal we are the king of north London we won the premier in your sht White House stadium don’t even remember the name you will never be arsenal with your stingy Jewish owners
@chiefbeef9905 Ай бұрын
@@user-jl1ry7qp1yAbsolute peak brainrot comment. By your logic the likes of Lampard and Solskjaer are better managers than Sir Alex Ferguson because SAF managed in the SPL before moving to the EPL instead of immediately walking into top level clubs. Idk how his previous jobs have any effect anyway considering he's objectively doing a great job atm with what he's been given.
@darrenfearon4288 2 ай бұрын
I dont know who the journalist who is interviewing other fellow journalist about footballing things but he is top notch.
@yoyonemo 2 ай бұрын
At least now the club different department are actually working toward something they all can agree on let it be the youth, transfer and of course the main team. Ange brought that from the moment he came in, so yes definitely on the right track as long the entire club keep working together as one on it.
@indianastones6032 2 ай бұрын
Couldn't have put it better mate!! Well said!
@tvgcmma9215 2 ай бұрын
Ange is the first manager since el tel who I feel can persuade players to join us over other clubs
@jacklane3679 Ай бұрын
This chat has aged particularly well after the Villa game, with the defensive numbers and Sarr's importance specifically... Spurs left Villa absolutely broken by the end of that game, with a compelling clean sheet and an immense performance from Sarr 👌
@kelso120 2 ай бұрын
Compared to the past few seasons it's been a joy watching Tottenham. No defensive football. No negativity in press conferences. Its not perfect far from it. Enjoyable so far.
@RJ-ni9hc 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant analysis guys... keep up the good work :)
@tonysobevski9961 Ай бұрын
Sick of people talking shit about Ange, the expectations and the selfishness of people expecting miracles. Comparing him to this to that, will it work all nonsense talk.. bunch of precious human beings, just enjoy the journey. Nothing is perfect in life or a guarantee. Do u need assurance that spurs will play the football the way u want, win everyweek, be champions. Nothing go wrong, because as a fan we deserves it. Wtf is with all that.. u came here on earth to experience the emotions it has to offer, good, bad, funny, sad all of them. U want perfection , start looking for it within yourself..
@cxv6367 Ай бұрын
Some supporters think we can go out and replace the whole team with gun players in 1 window
@ncoyne1 Ай бұрын
My first time of watching and I really enjoyed it,very informative. Thanks
@kronjobonjo 2 ай бұрын
Undoubtedly on the right track.
@Ackz89 2 ай бұрын
The xGC is from the nature of the style of football, its a very high line and with both fullbacks occupying the forward half spaces it leaves massive gaps down the channels. If it wasn't for the recovery pace of micky and front foot defending of Romero we would of conceded a ton more. I do however, believe that number will reduce when we have a more commanding midfield. If we got a proper six, an anchor like rodri or rice and manage to control games throughout the game states then the defence won't be as relied upon. It starts from the front and pressing as a team, winning balls back in the final third and being first to the second balls in midfield. At the moment it's a little chaotic, moments of great football and periods of hanging on for dear life. Give it time, only after two to three seasons will I properly judge Ange.
@peejayq 2 ай бұрын
💯 agree
@fangdog29 2 ай бұрын
I thought bissouma was better than rice
@yohanson1377 2 ай бұрын
Bissouma goes for risky turns and dribbles. He's got more style and flair than Declan which can be a negative once in a while. I've seen him lose the ball on the edge of our box multiple times this season. @@fangdog29
@pauldurdin6163 Ай бұрын
@@fangdog29not sure who told you that 😂 £25m vs £105m
@franzreyes6185 29 күн бұрын
@@fangdog29 This was during the first 10 games of the season until his red card against Luton. He hasnt been the same since
@NicJ27 2 ай бұрын
Happy to see Seb back on a podcast! And the answer is Yes, a thousand times Yes!
@callmedo 2 ай бұрын
Im enjoying watching the growth of the team but damn I want Sonny to lift a trophy soon before hed retires
@says0rry 2 ай бұрын
How could the answer be anytthing but yes?
@BannyV19 2 ай бұрын
Just cause the candy taste sweet, doesnt mean its not rotting you inside
@shishsuke 2 ай бұрын
Because the premier league and especially Spurs' is littered with false starts in the past 10 or so years? And not to mention that after once topping the league their form really fell off a cliff recently
@indianastones6032 2 ай бұрын
Yeah due to injuries and suspensions to main players
@TheRealMackMillar 2 ай бұрын
Seb Halfords Floor
@TomPage51 2 ай бұрын
There are two competing forces at work here As his players have more time and he builds the squad he wants Spurs will get better at playing Ange's brand of football But the longer he's in the premiership the more time opponents will have to think about how to counter it Quite where the equilibrium ends up is anybody's guess
@pauldurdin6163 Ай бұрын
You imply he only has one way of playing which, with all due respect, is nonsense. Compare the performance away to Arsenal with home to Man United and with away to Villa today. The tactics vary hugely. Ange definitely uses the clubs social media to his advantage. The twitter videos will show the same routine over and over again, ball out wide, crossed in low. But I’ve seen them training, these routines are 10 mins out of 2 hours. He just wants people to think he has one way of playing. See the goals since Christmas, how many have been ‘typical Ange goals’? Very few. Balls over the top to the pacey forwards have created more
@JCRule69 Ай бұрын
With better players it won't matter as much.
@druidnia 2 ай бұрын
Yes. Fun to watch again as well. COYS
@Taecoconut 2 ай бұрын
Very fascinating podcast! Thanks guys!
@colintautz4246 Ай бұрын
Great, objective, informative and fabulously presented
@jameshodgson9875 Ай бұрын
Love how real this guy is 🔥
@user-nl4cn1ew4w 2 ай бұрын
Since when did we put arteta on the same level as klopp amd pep?
@mitchaelhollingsworth1698 2 ай бұрын
Since he won the champions league and the premier league
@ricefarmer3487 2 ай бұрын
Artera won a CL and PL? I must of missed that😂
@ciaranoconnell4783 2 ай бұрын
I think it's more the rebuild. Say what you want about Arteta, he has broken the PL duopoly of Pep/Klopp in the sense those two have been forced to take a 3rd power seriously.
@vandammejam 2 ай бұрын
@@mitchaelhollingsworth1698you what ? 😐
@nate_wil 2 ай бұрын
Fantastic recruitment. Fantastic play style. Horrible Injuries. Lost one of the greatest strikers in the game. 100% right track.
@Never_Wr0ng 2 ай бұрын
Lost? Getting 100 million for a player doesn't exactly qualify as LOSING the player. Ah, the narratives. Whatever makes you feel better I guess. 😂
@masongrey2832 2 ай бұрын
@@Never_Wr0ngokay so because Spurs got a lot of money for him, it’s not a loss no longer having the best striker/one of the best playmakers in the world? No matter how much money you get, there are very very very few players as good as Harry Kane
@masongrey2832 2 ай бұрын
@@Never_Wr0ngand to extend on my point, would you rather have the best striker on the planet or £100m? I know I’d definitely prefer the former
@Never_Wr0ng 2 ай бұрын
@@masongrey2832 Nothing to do with the original comment. You're just blabbering. Kane was SOLD. Spurs didn't LOSE him. So stop pretending.
@Never_Wr0ng 2 ай бұрын
@@masongrey2832 You lot are out here pretending you have neither the striker nor 100 million. That's what I'm referring to.
@juz882010 2 ай бұрын
His first year is always not great... as an aussie I always thought with better players he could get results quicker which I think he has... next year will be huge for him. he usually he goes for tricky wingers which he doesnt quite have atm.
@stpd1957 2 ай бұрын
Great podcast Regarding recruitment, Paratici is irreplaceable
@waggafletcher Ай бұрын
Paratici is a tax cheat and a criminal. Ange doesn't need people like that around him.
@yohanson1377 2 ай бұрын
Ange is like Klopp and Pep. He’s succeeded almost everywhere he’s gone and chosen where he wants to go. He’s also not a young coach. He knows what he’s doing.
@ht8286 Ай бұрын
He has succeeded in shit leagues and is usually personal friends with club management or owners .
@ozzymick1431 27 күн бұрын
@@ht8286:...and....? You don't think having good relationships with bosses and players is important? Not every successful manager became successful by being on wink wink nudge nudge relationships just because you're trying to be!
@williamwebb5955 2 ай бұрын
Even when refs and VAR are wrong, Ange never blames them, he respects the game, very few managers like this, Brendan Roger’s on the week end embarrassed himself at having a go at the refs and VAR
@matthewfreeman4879 Ай бұрын
I think you are discounting ange's history in delivering with teams that have not been expected to win. Brisbane, Yokohama in particular. Personally, I'll be putting 100 on tottenham for the league next season.
@ronforeman8394 2 ай бұрын
“Spurs are conceding a fair bit” Only the 5th least conceded goals in the league . Wouldn’t call consider that terrible
@liamoconlocha3264 2 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter how many you concede if you score more, that's coming
@LuBeDaddY12 Ай бұрын
I feel like that chelsea game has stayed in everyones minds and has been the basis of how people look at spurs. Personally i think they are not taking the positives of what that game brought as a statement of intent. Everyone seems to forget how close we were to actually winning that game with 9 men and making chelsea look closer what they are and their results have proven that.
@TheIMadManI Ай бұрын
It's not that spurs concede less It's that when they do concede they lose incredibly important points against teams they should on paper be winning against. They always lose by one or two points carelessly in matches that matter the most against teams they can absolutely beat. Losing against Fulham today by 3 is an embarrassment for a top of the table team, losing 2-1 to wolves, they have a pattern of needlessly losing to bottom of the table teams, that's what seperates this current seasons spurs to the top 4 teams. Are the players underestimating the lower table teams or just plain unlucky? I don't know, but it is a very ugly pattern emerging.
@cxv6367 Ай бұрын
@@LuBeDaddY12 Chelsea was the best game I have ever watched .... even though we lost
@cxv6367 Ай бұрын
@@TheIMadManI Fulham also beat Arsenal ... there are no guaranteed wins in the prem
@sebseb8643 2 ай бұрын
Great content
@daveyfunk Ай бұрын
Until we get rid of feeling a pressure to win something we'll always fail. As a Spurs fan it's obviously frustrating we haven't won things, but looking for a quick solution isn't the answer. We need a long term plan and to find the pieces that fit and simply be patient. Build for sustainability and not look for immediate success. Ange has brought the culture of entertaining attacking football back to Spurs and you can see how players with certain skill sets can improve his playstyle further. VDV has shown that and I wouldn't say Maddison is anywhere close to being world class, but he's shown the style of player needed for that role...even he can be improved on though!!! It's promising and we need to get away from thinking Spurs/Ange has limited time to win something
@stephenphilipps3360 2 ай бұрын
Hes had a good start with a quick turn around from where they were. Whether they get Champions League/not will be interesting but yeah solid effort so far, even with seeking vindication. On the tactics of being quite offensive all the time, but look Im an Aussie. So aside from that VAR moment Im not gonna have a bad thing to say about him. He was the bridge between previous national team management and now Graham Arnold for Socceroos. And now done well in the club sphere again after that
@LuBeDaddY12 Ай бұрын
The most exciting aspect of Ange's presence at the club has been putting the attention on the academy. Changing how we go about scouting, retaining and training young players to have a greater success rate from academy when it comes to first team football. Important building blocks for creating sustained success is so important to tottenham.
@chiefbeef9905 Ай бұрын
Considering its his first year and Spurs are arguably in a rebuild, losing a few of their most senior, important players, I think hes doing a great job. As a neutral, even though the trophiless jokes can be funny, it'd be nice to see them win something. Also, the more teams in the mix for the top 4/ title the better imo, especially when they're playing such beautiful football.
@iliasmastoris529 Ай бұрын
Postecoglou learnt from Puskas. That is real royalty.
@justinmather6673 Ай бұрын
At 5:40, totally agree! Not so much the winning, its everything else, culture etc, positive direction
@solidsnake6243 Ай бұрын
one thing spurs have struggled with even back when poch was in charge had a great first 11 but just a first 11 doesnt win you trophies we need an actual squad with decent players to bring on off the bench when its not going well and i feel we are on the right track for that now which i feel in next few seasons could make all the difference
@jrd7307 2 ай бұрын
Happy Sarr is finally getting the recognition he deserves
@Wooldrog Ай бұрын
100% easily our most important player this year it's nuts that we looked at this kid who was in a relegation battle in the French league and decided to sign him
@elastotec173 Ай бұрын
Ange has a track record of identifying very talented players that are available at bargain prices and then through his playing style and coaching increases their out put and value. He can also work with existing players at a club and improve their performance and increase their value - Ange does this everywhere he coaches e.g. Kyogo, Hatate ,Mieda, Oreilly, Abada, Juranovic, Van der Men, Vicario, Udoggie, Madison, Sarr, Bissouma
@andyb3712 2 ай бұрын
The future is really clear: Levy didn't spend almost a decade building this stadium for the purpose of 20 homes games a year. It's an insane cash cow - he wants 30 homes matches a year (plus 30 major secondary events, council permission now pending). You only do that by going deep in the (3) cup comps. Next stage is a full City-sized 25-adult squad, with under 21s pushing them. Goodness knows Levy has been shaving adult numbers off his squads for 1/4 of a century. Now, though, with the stadium heaving and the fan base buzzing, is the moment.
@grahammerry7031 2 ай бұрын
It is the moment but " to dare is too dear"
@jameelsulaiman2720 Ай бұрын
This should be a 30-minute long video with only one screen that says "yes"
@georgefernandez7558 Ай бұрын
From the beginning Postecoglou had a long term plan. He was criticised for playing the subs (mostly) for the Fulham game that they lost on penalties, but given that he had such a disrupted preseason that was the only chance to assess in a serious game who would stay and who would go. And he made the right decisions. Also, the game that Spurs lost against Chelsea shows his long term vision, playing with 9 they didn't go back and defended but kept playing exactly the same, and they could even have drawn the game. He is playing several players who wouldn't get a chance with previous managers, young, skilful, attacking minded, and brought in people who fit the same mould. Enjoy it!
@peterpapadimitriou7744 Ай бұрын
Top 4 and Europe is a priority in Ange Head- He is deflecting the pressure away from his players- skill full management- You got to be in it to win full stop so I am backing the experience in Europe as part of the development.
@rolopolo66 Ай бұрын
The measure of a good coach is getting the most out of the players you have. Ange has done that at every club he has coached, and he’s doing it at Spurs.
@michaelrogers526 2 ай бұрын
Turned 50 last year. Tottenham born and bred..poor me. 🤣 I often wonder if we’ll ever win a title in my lifetime. Not holding my breath, but as most fans would realistically hope for, I’d be over the moon just to see us win silverware more regularly and be a great team to watch. My biggest disappointment was not losing the CL final, but not progressing thereafter. An interesting discussion, but ultimately we just have to see how ambitious we really are, and for that to happen, we need to spend like never before. And that’s up to the owners. Is Ange the man to then get the best out of a deeply talented squad? 🤷♂️
@Mark-sg2ri 2 ай бұрын
Need to continue the great recruitment over the past 24 months to give him the resources to develop the tactics and control games better
@stephen2992 2 ай бұрын
Who have we signed ? Maddison and van de ven are the only players that would get into the top two team squad. Bj, kulu, timo arent that good. They are OK, but do you really think they are good recruitment. We signed drago that doesn't even play
@Mark-sg2ri 2 ай бұрын
@@stephen2992 in the past 24 months I’d put into the top signings being Porro, Udogie, Vic, Micky, Madders and Kulu it’s about potential and building for the future. It took Klopp 4 seasons to win his first league title.
@shin2463 Ай бұрын
Yeah but Tottenham will never be better then arsenal ok fine from 2014 until 2022 your useless club was better then my beloved arsenal but did you ever win anything atleast we won the fa cup even in our bad time
@sydneyduke428 2 ай бұрын
Set piece xGA - people forget quickly how may set pieces Harry Kane used to head clear.
@patco8181 Ай бұрын
I don't know if his game will succeed in the EPL but it is fun to watch and right now that's good enough for me.
@athreyathandeswaran7510 2 ай бұрын
2 wingers and a DM And another creator. And maybe a depth option for Van De Ven.
@LeslieDiablerets Ай бұрын
Did you watch Dragusin against Villa? The back up is already there - add Phillips next season and we've got strength in depth.
@lukemyszka9292 Ай бұрын
Still need 1 more if you want to build squad depth to compete with city
@sydneyduke428 2 ай бұрын
Tottenham have conceded 13 goals in the 12 games that their first choice back 4 have played. Ange issue is the drop off to the back ups, and having to play Emerson and Davies as CBs for 10 games.
@teb7426 Ай бұрын
In fairness, a lot of Tottenham fans who watch the team regularly could see that Hojbjerg and Skipp were far off the quality in the middle of the park that rivals had. Sarr clearly had a lot of potential but was so young, so it's not clear how much Ange has developed him vs. a natural progression of a top U21 player globally. Bissouma hasn't really improved on his Brighton performances. Udogie came straight in and is elite. Ange cannot surely be credited with this: could see from his Udinese (??) games that he had some incredible qualities. Son was developed in a big way by Mourinho. As was Kane who was given the freedom to roam a bit like he did at youth level. Romero and Porro have certainly improved under Ange, though.
@philipmatthewoconnor 2 ай бұрын
Please stop with these crude comparisons between initial manager stints at clubs, totally lacking context; the same comparison was trotted out to laud Ten Haag even though the stats + eye test could tell you he was overachieving and reversion to the mean would catch up with him. The rest of your analysis is where the value is, i.e., comparing him with with his predecessors in terms of football ethos, man management, recruitment and progress on the pitch and off it.
@codgamer Ай бұрын
I am just happy to be watching some entertaining and exciting football. I remembered falling asleep watching Mourinho football.
@Ash09873 2 ай бұрын
YES
@Cecil-yc6mc Ай бұрын
YES!
@am5790 Ай бұрын
way too many analysts these days.....boring
@ChubbBates-mh5xp 26 күн бұрын
I don’t give a shit that Ange came from Australia because he’s a fkn legend.COYS.
@indianastones6032 2 ай бұрын
Short answer - Yes! Long answer - Yeeeeeeeeeees!
@WinWingWin 2 ай бұрын
Looooool
@brendancook0 Ай бұрын
Ruth was incredible. First time watching the channel all because clips of Ruth on insta were irresistible
@BrandonAyong 2 ай бұрын
He's perfect for spurs. They probably won't win anything with him but he plays good football and will do enough for top 4 every season
@theblackswordsman9951 2 ай бұрын
Top 4 every season? They probably won't get top 4 this season. They'll benefit from 5th being a CL spot tho.
@BrandonAyong 2 ай бұрын
@@theblackswordsman9951 yeah I meant top 4 contenders
@twosheds2030 2 ай бұрын
He will win silverware. He does that everywhere
@theblackswordsman9951 2 ай бұрын
@@twosheds2030 So did Mourinho, and then he went to Spurs
@user-lx8gs1on8z 2 ай бұрын
@@theblackswordsman9951you just can't give some credit can you I tell you what give arteta or klomp or pep sheffield with a minimum budget and lets see how they go I can guarantee you ange will do better with sheffield then the other three
@dlaldlaldlanutsntnstn1418 Ай бұрын
You can use Liverpool and Arsenal as examples to gauge how well Ange is doing IF you apply some context. Both of those teams were in disarray and needed a lot of work to turn the ship around. Whereas Tottenham had been consistently stable for quite a long time before Ange took over. Use them if you want, but the way you're using them is just a way to pat yourself on the back, its of no benefit to us or yourselves because you're not being honest about the true reality of it
@philwulff201 Ай бұрын
Yes
@maino13 Ай бұрын
Everyone forgets it was Arteta catching covid that put football on lockdown , so Arsenal is a very special case which makes Arteta progress even more impressive on his first job
@DavidChong 2 ай бұрын
the other thing spurs will have to reckon with is if they make a european competition, as much as they could already do with a deeper squad, they're going to need an _even deeper_ one to handle those extra minutes.
@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere 2 ай бұрын
*larger squad. I'll never understand why the Instagram generation love that word "deeper" and "deep"
@DavidChong 2 ай бұрын
@@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere I dunno who you're calling instagram generation bc I'm closer to 50 than 45. regardless it's because you can have a squad that is large (consists of many players) that isn't deep (doesn't have significant quality that you can rely on), conversely you can have a relatively small squad and still have a lot of depth if those players are both good and have some kind of remarkable propensity for never getting fatigued or picking up an injury.
@musicwithguitars 2 ай бұрын
Yes.
@JamesPawk07 27 күн бұрын
A more important question. What really is the right track for a Tottenham manager?
@geoffstern7652 Ай бұрын
ENIC have the worst trophy per season percentage stats of any THFC owners since World War Two...
@stevewebster5729 2 ай бұрын
So, I subscribed to this to see if the Athletic was something I'd like to sign up to. But, over the last 6-8 weeks, all I have seen is endless content about Cite, Utd, Arse, Pool and Spurs - do you ever do anything on other teams? [ever not meaning once or twice a year!]
@cyn1clcynide 2 ай бұрын
On the podcasts, not much. Once every so often you will have a midtable club that is mentioned, particularly when a new manager arrives. The Athletic itself has several articles on clubs outside the big six, however, as you say, you need a paid subscription. Honestly, I tried it for a year and while some of the in-depth analysis of games is top-notch, I didn't really feel it value-for-money. That and most of the Athletic's podcasts are available for free in Spotify or Google Podcasts, so you don't even need to pay for their flagship content.
@stevewebster5729 2 ай бұрын
@@cyn1clcynide I support the team in 4th - honestly, you'd think they played in Moldovia for all the attention they get...
@martincheeseman5809 Ай бұрын
He’s doing very well I hope he stays with spurs!
@davidmartin2331 Ай бұрын
How many more years before HM Son stays peak and with the club before going retiring or heading to the US
@cxv6367 Ай бұрын
I guess we will find out in about 2 years ... if he gets the time
@guv6862 2 ай бұрын
Additional * for Angie in his favor… he lost Harry Kane before the season. Not a bad egg player like auba or Pepe…. The greatest striker in England tat is English’s and academy product. The day before the first game. That’s a huge dressing room loss, in addition to the goals and assists.
@geoffstern7652 Ай бұрын
Some perspective, please! Tottenham are currently 11 points behind the Arsenal, when at Christmas they were just one point behind them, and are currently sitting in a worst League position than when Conte was sacked exactly one year ago...
@tzetv Ай бұрын
😂 in a far more competitive season this year
@pauldurdin6163 Ай бұрын
Arteta took over a team with one of the best forward lines in the country. They won the FA Cup in his first few months with someone else’s squad. So he had way more to build on Ange took over a dinosaur team that played fossil football. You say he had a pre season - agreed he did. But ended it by losing by far his best player! He’s rebuilt the team and indeed the club, in weeks. He is the real deal. He will win plenty with spurs
@mikeq7134 Ай бұрын
The answer is "No, he's not on the right track at Spurs." If he were on the right track, the team would win more often. Just compare them to the scoring ability of Arsenal.
@streetjustice4287 Ай бұрын
100%. All arsenal fans agree
@DrissZyani-bu5mo Ай бұрын
Ange can even coach the others top European clubs .
@johnprosser5035 Ай бұрын
Yeah he will eventually take them down!!!
@Thomas-zs5wt Ай бұрын
simple answer yes coys
@vinniesarkissian5589 Ай бұрын
SEB STAFFORD BLOOR
@eaka68 2 ай бұрын
If only Sess was not injured so much and Spence got his attitude right, Ange would have a full compliment of quality fbs to choose from.
@WinWingWin 2 ай бұрын
Yes true
@liamoconlocha3264 2 ай бұрын
Neither for top 4 position too average
@legendaltair2733 2 ай бұрын
Eth finished 4th in first season when klopp didn't manage that.. What does that prove😂😂😂
@2229JMAN 2 ай бұрын
HOW ARE SEBS GATES WHY CANT YOU ASK THE MOST PRESSING QUESTIONS
@chancesareshewears Ай бұрын
Fan since 1967. Yes 1967. We let jimmy greaves go and never truly recovered.
@richardbyrnes8398 Ай бұрын
Time to move on mate. 👍
@praktika1082 2 ай бұрын
A big club is gonna come for Ange soon.
@user-jl1ry7qp1y 2 ай бұрын
why? He is not a young manager, and has done nothing in any of the big leagues
@praktika1082 2 ай бұрын
@@user-jl1ry7qp1y we all know he's too good for Spuds
@Professor_Poots 2 ай бұрын
Do you all know? Last season no bigger club would have taken the chance on Celtics ageing manager. Half a season at spurs and now he should be going to an elite club?
@praktika1082 2 ай бұрын
@@Professor_Poots Ange is a winner. He knows he's not winning anything at Spurs. It's a stepping stone for him.
@Professor_Poots 2 ай бұрын
@@praktika1082 sounds like he's not a winner if he's not winning anything
@jarellcardoza1806 2 ай бұрын
Yeah
@parkpeterk Ай бұрын
I think it s really lame that these chaps make no mention of SON, for his contribution as the captain for building the oft alluded ethos, and SON's MVP contribution on the pitch. Lame.
@balkanmontero Ай бұрын
Assume Klopps Liverpool was always good? IF ANYTHING ITS PRETTY WELL KNOWN WE WERE STILL SHIT until the 18/19 season where we went for the Champions League but got "broken" by the goddamn Los Blancos
@alekseifedorov949 Ай бұрын
I expect more precise analysis from the best platform. Nuno wasn’t this famous star power manager you carelessly spit about.
@joaquincareca9254 Ай бұрын
It would be interesting to know how pochettino thinks atm, how he looks at today's Tottenham. And is it just me or are the enic out crybabies more silent atm?
@danc4435 2 ай бұрын
People don’t dismiss winning Scottish league with Celtic because they’re snobby about Scottish football - it’s because winning a league with a team that’s done it 10 years in a row isn’t that impressive
@michaelriley828 2 ай бұрын
The uneducated have no idea about the context of his achievements at Celtic. They finished 25 points behind Rangers the previous season & Ange was a last minute appointment due to first choice Eddie Howe pulling out shortly before kick off.. Cleaned them out & turned them around completely in that first season. won the title plus another trophy. Next season the treble. Historically his teams perform vastly better in the second season. Expect no different at Spurs.
@Qlicky 2 ай бұрын
@@michaelriley828The fact remains is that Celtic won it 9 times in a row before that one season and his appointment. The chances are that anyone else would have won it again after that one poor season. Celtic won 11 league titles out of last 12 ffs. With 4 different managers, and neither of them is considered a top class manager. For comparison, Neil Lennon has won it 5 times in 9 seasons and he is currently without a job. That's how 'hard' it is to win it with Celtic/Rangers in Scotland. Hell, even Steven Gerrard managed to win it. The way people are talking about it, you'd think he won it with St. Mirren or whoever is the worst over there.
@guymasterson6767 2 ай бұрын
@@michaelriley828crikey, I hope so…
@johnwhitefoot9803 2 ай бұрын
It’s not a ‘cop out’. Spurs fans place style of play above all. That’s why Spurs are many people’s second favourite club 💙
@T_J_ 2 ай бұрын
And that placing of style "above all" is one reason for Spurs' lack of trophies.
@johnwhitefoot9803 2 ай бұрын
@@T_J_ You’re not wrong. Trophies for me (Spurs since 1962)however, are the lovely cherries on top of beautiful cake👍🏼
@T_J_ 2 ай бұрын
@@johnwhitefoot9803 For me, the trophies are the cake. We place importance on different things.
@johnwhitefoot9803 2 ай бұрын
@@T_J_ except perhaps our irrational love for Spurs🤣💙
@T_J_ 2 ай бұрын
@@johnwhitefoot9803 🙂
@alekseifedorov949 Ай бұрын
Tth allows threat like a mid table side. This “famous” draw with City, in fact they were thrashed and got lucky, so it’s not a “gave them a game” like even Chelsea did. No, it’s hard to not admire this season’s overall success, especially if they will manage to qualify. But let’s see. They will lose points, I promise you that.
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