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Is The 2021 BMW M2 Competition Still The One To Get?
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Күн бұрынThis week I drove a stunning BMW M2 Competition and discussed whether or not I would take it over either the original M2, or the brand new M2CS? To say that this wasn't a fun exercise would be a lie, but I tried my best to weight out all factors involved.
Most prominently, there's cost, and it dictates most people's final choice. But, there's also factors ranging from maintenance/reliability, as well as the fact that these cars -- particularly the fact that N55 powered OG M2 and the S55 powered M2C I was driving today are ENTIRELY different cars in many ways.
Anyway, I discuss all of this, as well as why I enjoy the M2 Competition because of what it stands for as a new car in the current market. The fact that I was able to row my own gears... because BMW is one of not too many German brands to still offer us a Manual transmission at all (I'm talking to you Mercedes and Audi!!)
This is my take on the M2 vs M2C vs M2CS debate, tough! A delightful experience however, it still was -- and if you watch the video you'll surely see that... Long Live the M2!!!!
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I would ask 'Bimmer, Benz, or Bentley?' ... but if you're watching this video, I likely know the answer :)
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
OG M2 or M2 Comp... give me your thoughts down below!!!
@jakeblum5125 3 жыл бұрын
i3 😈
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakeblum5125 🤡
@samiraescobar7222 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakeblum5125 smh
@samiraescobar7222 3 жыл бұрын
M2 Comp 😋
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
@@samiraescobar7222 good choice 😅
@kindmanstudios 3 жыл бұрын
Finally an M car for true M fans. As a NA motor fan, I think the exhaust sounds good. My question is how does the steering compare to a hydraulic setup
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
It's a big improvement to the original EPS systems in BMW's, but still doesn't compare to the full analog 'feel' of a hydraulic setup!
@gsr2nr 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a review with a manual, so sick of all of them being the stupid ass automatic. I love my m2c, The CS is nice but not worth the price charged for it and I would rather have a fixed suspension
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Ya the static suspension is pretty solid, especially in whatever ever so slightly modified fashion it is on the Comp
@joemamaisobama5788 3 жыл бұрын
What’s wrong with automatic? I don’t really know much about cars but I really like the m2
@jepoy1639 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah fuck automatic
@jackyye4040 2 жыл бұрын
@@joemamaisobama5788 nothings wrong with it. Some people prefer stick over dct but the dct on this is super solid
@ajaxf1560 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! This was the "quirks and features" video I was looking for from Doug. He did a very short video on it and this filled in the gaps. I've ordered I believe the same spec and I cannot wait. I feel even better about my decision now.
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man that's a great compliment thank you! You got a sweet car coming in 😎
@Userh211 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid man, 100% agree with everything you said. Just drove an m2CS and that was nuts.
@Reoniz 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta check one out!!
@andrewnaaman1260 3 жыл бұрын
This was the first time I have watched one of you videos. I looked at ur sub count was suprised you dont have atleast 100k. You deserve a lot more so I got u with a sub.
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Haha appreciate it!! We'll get there eventually 🙏🏼
@SD-mz4ff 3 жыл бұрын
Great detailed review. I’m anticipating on picking up the exact same configuration in the next few days.
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Enjoy one hell of a car!!!
@zhekanwang5040 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Put my deposit for a manual HS M2c in late Feb. A month later the order was finally accepted. It is still “scheduled for production” now so eagerly waiting while watching every video on KZfaq about this car
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Not a bad way to spend time til your car arrives 😎🤟🏼
@cwx8 3 жыл бұрын
I had an LCI M2 and now have an M2 Competition Things I preferred in my older car - seats were more comfortable (but not as attractive) - sound was incredible, I had FI catted DP and M Perf Exhaust - more power down low - liked the kidney better - interior seemed quieter What I like about the comp: - Mirrors - S55 power ceiling, no mods needed - Gauges - Hockenheim - Breaks are insane I wish I didn't sell the OG. The gap wasn't big enough. With BM3 Stage 2, Wagner Comp IC, FI Catted DP, the car was absolutely amazing as a daily and canyon car. But the Competition has the collectability factor
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
I always love hearing the opinion of people who have owned/driven both! Do you feel as though the steering is largely improved from OG to Comp? Many people say the updated EPS and more rigid front end (carbon brace) make a significant difference. I haven't driven the OG along enough to compare
@cwx8 3 жыл бұрын
@@Reoniz I had a 2018 LCI which I think had some updated EPS logic. As a result I can't tell the difference. If anything I think sport+ may be a little less unnecessarily heavy in the M2C.
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
@@cwx8 gotchu, well that sounds promising... but now even the 18' LCI's are 📈 in the booming used car market haha
@johncarpenter2172 3 жыл бұрын
Great content man! I just pursched a brand new 2020 BMW M4 heritage edition and I’m absolutely loving it. Previously had a Porsche and I’m not sure I’ll ever go back.
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! The Heritage editions are cool! I like the stripe on the roof
@2004cyrus 3 жыл бұрын
Yay another upload! And a manual Beemer! Can’t wait to get into this! And those magic gloves add a level of intensity to the BMW experience. We curse exactly the same, too! Hahaha
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!!! The gloves were ridiculous haha and trying not to curse but couldn't help it in the M2C 🤤🤫
@2004cyrus 3 жыл бұрын
@@Reoniz can’t blame you one bit. Those roads with mountains in the back are gorgeous. I’m in Texas and out terrain is more flat in the majority of the state.
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
@@2004cyrus ahh yes, it's one of the reasons living here in SoCal is worth it: great driving roads all around !
@wolfmp5 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, I have a 2020 m2 comp in Hockenhiem silver but with the orange stitch, and I love it. Not the best on gas mileage lol but that’s not why I bought it.
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds beautiful!! HS is a head turner
@r3awak3n 3 жыл бұрын
The OG is a good car and for the price it just can't be beat, I almost ended up with one but for a bit more you just get so much more and probably also a warranty so imo its worth it.
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly !! There's no denying the value prop of the OG
@samiraescobar7222 3 жыл бұрын
Love the driving gloves
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
🥺🤟🏼😭
@myshawnyescobar9305 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Gloves are dope.
@ianmoorcroft3689 3 жыл бұрын
Great review and fantastic car 👍
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
😎😎 thank you !!
@saucey99 3 жыл бұрын
Just found this site, and you are efficent and good and know your stuff. I will definitely share with many. Question if you could purchase m2 comp or m3 where do you go? My Budget is good my skills driving good, bmw history bad. Audi/porsche/tesla, had and sold. Been wanting a drivers car with HP and handling that gives you that Grin.
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! If you are comparing the F87 (M2) and F80 (M3) I'm taking the M2 forsure! If you are however comparing the M2 to the new G80 generation M3 I'm not sure as I haven't driven the latest gen yet Typically, the M2 wins out because of size alone, but the M3 provides more practicality of course. If you truly have the budget and want a solid drivers car, I'd look at the likes of a Porsche 718 GT4 or the M2 CS!
@wisdumb8570 3 жыл бұрын
I still want it, unfortunately I am going Tesla since I can't afford gasoline in the long term.
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
I understand... 😕
@lbarbato6425 3 жыл бұрын
Great performance sports car. Looked at many before buying my M2 comp, dct, best value for money to put a smile on your face.
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
It really is... especially if you need/want something newer
@TraderMDB_ 29 күн бұрын
seeing this vid 3years latern I am now looking for a m2 comp. Why would you definitly not get the sunroof?
@DjNikGnashers 7 ай бұрын
I love the M2C, just worried about the engine crank hub issue. I'd still have one if I had the money. I'm happy with my OG M2 though.
@White4vGTI 3 жыл бұрын
I own a LBB 2021 M2C with the DCT! Love it!!
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome car!! You replaced your ZHP with this?
@White4vGTI 3 жыл бұрын
@@Reoniz yes I did!
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
@@White4vGTI I'm jealous haha !! What're your thoughts going from one to the other?
@White4vGTI 3 жыл бұрын
@@Reoniz no comparison between my ZHP and my M2C. I love my ZHP but after driving it after the M2C, I could never go back.
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
@@White4vGTI that's how I feel after driving this M2C as well... but I gotta go back to my ZHP 😭 hahah
@OSHOI 3 жыл бұрын
Well presented. Thank you. I want one.
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I want one too 😃
@tullywacker 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video and review. Looking forward to getting mine soon.
@Reoniz 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you and enjoy 😎👍
@anasryadi8545 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review! You should have 200k subs not 2k with this quality of a review. It's a waist not to get an m2c with a dct because it's the last time you'll get to have it. If was just going manual I would wait for the 2023 m2 or just get G series M4
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I see what you're saying, I still think I'd go manual, but it very well may be your last chance to ever get a DCT in an M car!
@verde629 Жыл бұрын
Ppl hate on the S55 engine but that’s how most twin turbocharged engines sound.
@Reoniz Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@r0xas13 3 жыл бұрын
The hate for the sunroof is for track helmets or just in general lol
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Good question, it certainly doesn't hurt for headroom purposes, but I also don't love adding 50ish pounds to the highest point of a performance car personally
@r0xas13 3 жыл бұрын
@@Reoniz I get it. I found the exact spec I’d want locally but has a sunroof. The other option is pay more for an allocation and wait 2 months... 🤔
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
@@r0xas13 hmmm... I'm not sure I'd let it stop me from an otherwise perfect car/price, but I'd rather not have it :)
@nessuno5403 3 жыл бұрын
@@Reoniz 🤦🏻♂️ real sportcars have a roll cage and guess where some of its weight is? Above your head, like a sunroof! Besides, this is not a full-on track car!
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
@@nessuno5403 hahah ya... a roll cage also adds structural rigidity and provides added and sometimes necessary safety to a car. Sunroof does not of that. But again, it's just MY OPINION to opt out of a sunroof if and when possible in sports cars 👍
@BEAR_S55 3 жыл бұрын
59k?? I realise that’s American dollars but in Australia they start at 120k. Fuck our country is just shit to buy cars in as these are NOT an affordable sports car in Australia
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Oooof ... ya that's not affordable at all. That's like M8 comp money here 😳
@BEAR_S55 3 жыл бұрын
@@Reoniz bloody hell!! M8 comp starts at 400k here! Well great review on prob my favourite bmw and well those gloves, what to say about them... I’ll leave that one haha
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha I'm not a fan of the gloves either... my friend had to give me a hard time 😭😩😅
@BrakRulesAll 3 жыл бұрын
Those turn signals are LEDs, not halogen
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Ya I think you're actually right, they look to be reflector style, with a single LED bulb. Buuuut, what I said is still true, the DRL dims for the turn signal which is not true on most Adaptive LED units on BMW's
@nessuno5403 3 жыл бұрын
@@Reoniz since when? By regulation, they must. You must have older cars in mind.
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
@@nessuno5403 nope, go check out the headlights on the brand new G8X's, DRL doesn't dim for the turn signal... BMW seems to be the only brand to do this, Audi's for quite some time (since around 2013) dim or completely turn off the DRL while the turn signal indicator is on!
@nessuno5403 3 жыл бұрын
@@Reoniz driving this F87 with adaptive LED, can confirm DRL dim
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
@@nessuno5403 no I know!!! I'm saying that the F87 with adaptive LED's is one of the only full on adaptive systems BMW puts out that does this... go check out the turn signals on say an F80 with adaptive LED's, or even a G20, and it won't do that!
@michaelslater6324 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Great video. Are the wheels on this car the forged bi-color or forged black? I can't decide between the two which one I want!
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! These are the lighter colored 'bi-color' wheels!! It's a hard choice, and honestly they're very similar aside from the alloy portion of the 'black' wheels being a slightly darker shade... you really can't go wrong. But I think the 'bi-color' works best on HS!!
@michaelslater6324 3 жыл бұрын
@@Reoniz Awesome. Thanks! I just had my build changed to the bi color, and it's hk silver as well. Turns out they almost didn't have any more bi colors left bc the m2c is going out of production. Glad I reached out!
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelslater6324 congrats!! Enjoy all the M2 content out there until you get to enjoy the real thing 😅🤟🏼
@stevelang26 3 жыл бұрын
I love at them but went with the M3 Competition 2021
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
The M3's sweet too!
@gilmendoza8092 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome review thanks man
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
😎👍 thanks!
@STICKSHFT Жыл бұрын
bang for buck og m2 is hard to beat. especially since they are available for low 30's today. m2 comp can be tuned and modded to beyond m2 cs levels that isnt possible with the og m2. but the m2 cs will be the better collectors car 30 years from now
@ZenGeeks 3 жыл бұрын
We love it
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
🤠🤠🤠
@josephbilotta5994 3 жыл бұрын
I watched the whole video expecting this guy to tell two kids on a couch how he mew their mother.
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha ok... I'll take it as a compliment
@ksfpubstar2 3 жыл бұрын
I can see the resemblance with Josh
@LoLPhuocDat 2 жыл бұрын
great review!
@Reoniz 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 😎👍
@younglee4579 3 жыл бұрын
How do I get one?
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
I gotchu!!
@damianpasour 3 жыл бұрын
Cool channel I just subscribed to your channel:)
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! 😎
@n.prince2458 3 жыл бұрын
Not bad..., but ...what do you dislike about the sunroof?
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
3 detractors for me personally: it takes away headroom, it brings in unnecessary heat, and most importantly it's a chunk of added weight in the place you want least (at the highest point of the car) Obviously just about all these detractors go away when considering say a luxury SUV... but this is of course a sports coupe!
@billpence5444 3 жыл бұрын
great video! just subbed:) hmu if you ever come to Asheville NC and want to review an Ftype or Cayman;)
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!! And will do 😅👍
@thermicunicorn 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, but still. Not a Lecksus
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Smh!! Sad but true
@thermicunicorn 3 жыл бұрын
@@Reoniz so you agree?
@thermicunicorn 3 жыл бұрын
Lecksoos is the best
@fcc1311 3 жыл бұрын
M2 comp or m340??
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Personally, the M2 Comp forsure 🤟🏼
@nessuno5403 3 жыл бұрын
😂 m340i? Only if you have a family or taxi business and want to say you can almost keep up with an M2C only in a straightline
@fcc1311 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Gonna go trade in my Taco now
@nessuno5403 3 жыл бұрын
@@fcc1311 seriously, the m340i is a fast saloon (same engine as Supra), but it's no sportcar. If you live in good climate you also don't need its AWD.
@user-gr2ef5uz5g 2 жыл бұрын
Are they making the m2 in 2022?
@Reoniz 2 жыл бұрын
I don't believe so, I think it's gonna be a break year til either the 2023/2024 M2 comes out
@corcega248 Жыл бұрын
Where brand is the front lip ?
@Reoniz Жыл бұрын
I believe Vicrez!
@corcega248 Жыл бұрын
@@Reoniz thanks man
@UIOP336 3 жыл бұрын
My dream car...
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Mine too!! 😅🙏🏼🙏🏼
@LittyJonez 2 жыл бұрын
$60,650 is a steal …. Today 12/25/21 = $70,000 smh
@Reoniz 2 жыл бұрын
Hahah I don't know about $100k... but these are definitely up from their used prices of $50-$55k a year ago, to around $60-70k now. Sad 😢 Still an amazing sports car though
@jamisteven1 3 жыл бұрын
- fuck the auto trans - fuck the sunroof solid.
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you!! 😅👍
@trevorscales8771 3 жыл бұрын
Hard to stomach the price for that interior :/
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
I hear what you're saying. To me it's not only 'not too bad' ... but even more justified in a world where an STI costs you $40k
@trevorscales8771 3 жыл бұрын
@@Reoniz fair shout and this is coming from someone who had a sti lol I'd love the m4 interior in a m2 package
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
@@trevorscales8771 ya... one can only that the forthcoming G87 M2 does exactly that - now that the markets appetite for the M2 is clear
@Saiyan585 3 жыл бұрын
Wait for the G87.
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
I'm excited for the performance ... terrified to see the looks 😳 hahaha
@Saiyan585 3 жыл бұрын
@@Reoniz 2 pics have been leaked of a silver one in plant. If they're real, which they look like they are, it looks great. That matches up with an unofficial confirmation that they went in the opposite direction with the front bumper design in comparison to their new M cars.
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Ya I saw the silver car, looked to be an M240... I'm not head over heels, but I'm gonna hold out to see the proper M2!!
@edanyachdav9646 3 жыл бұрын
Sub for that WZ win last night (and the car) 👍🏽
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Hahah you're a beast bro 😅👍
@maxp3764 3 жыл бұрын
car - m2 competition. food - pretzel. religion - catholic. clothing - lederhosen
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a vibe and a half 😭
@tonywencil8450 3 жыл бұрын
The steering is just so terrible. Owned a m2c and sold within 2000 miles. Bmw stopped at e92
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Ya know, maybe it's my F30, but this wasn't terrible at all to me... however to hold it to the E92 standard will always be a disappointment. I used to have one as well and many new Bimmers have been a disappointment but things are trending back in the right direction!
@juliorosasakajv 3 жыл бұрын
He drove the OG m2 for 15 and now he’s an expert on all three ....GTFO haha
@Shawn-in-da-Canyon 3 жыл бұрын
OMG, the gloves are so 🌈
@lancraft 3 жыл бұрын
Only wankers wear driving gloves (racing not included).
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Lmaoo
@alanoliphant1430 2 жыл бұрын
Stop looking at the camera.
@Reoniz 2 жыл бұрын
No thanks
@crazyland9894 3 жыл бұрын
They don’t hold their value at all so you are very wrong in that
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Ok lol...
@Userh211 3 жыл бұрын
Check out any m2s for sale, hes right. THeyre holding value quite well for a used M car
@nessuno5403 3 жыл бұрын
The original "OG" M2 has lost more value since this better M2 Competition has arrived
@Userh211 3 жыл бұрын
@@nessuno5403 The sun is hot. Any other obvious things you wanna say?
@nessuno5403 3 жыл бұрын
@@Userh211 yes, 2 things: stop "liking" your own comments immediately after posting; you're only here because I said you're wrong claiming a standard CS is lighter than M2C 🙂
@rydgevilla8643 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t let this fool drive my car while not paying attention to the road, while doing a review.
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Yo fool, have you ever seen a car review on KZfaq before?
@Userh211 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid man, 100% agree with everything you said. Just drove an m2CS and that was nuts.
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
I gotta get behind the wheel of one!
@Userh211 3 жыл бұрын
@@Reoniz Ive driven a regular comp and you can for sure feel the lightness of the CS. It had Cup 2 tires as well so amount of grip was crazy
@Reoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds about right... it's certainly the best M2 that money can buy, you just need a lot of it hahah
@nessuno5403 3 жыл бұрын
@@Userh211 🤣 you serious? Unless it had carbon ceramics, CS and Competition *WEIGH THE SAME* and since they have the same weight and engine torque, you *CANNOT* tell the 0.2s difference in acceleration. In fact, an M2C DCT is as fast as a manual CS. Dumb fan bois 🤦🏻♂️
@Userh211 3 жыл бұрын
@@nessuno5403 carbon roof, carbon hood, ceramics, lighter interior. At least 20 pounds of weight taken off. From what I could tell, at least from me driving- it felt lighter to me. You have fun talkin about cars you never even sat in tho...
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