Pickup Truck Plus SUV Talk What’s the best possible advertised MPG ( GAS ) version in 2wd? In-other-words what rear gear ratio would it have, and is that rear gear offered in the SRW F350? And what’s the payload difference between the F250 & F350? Also what’s the differences in the 250 & 350? Literally just a bigger axle and leaf springs OR wider rims, thicker frame, beefier trans, and trans cooler, stronger crankshaft, bigger radiator, hardened valve seats etc?

Good questions. 1. Since these are HD trucks, there is no advertised MPG. The EPA doesn't rate these trucks for fuel economy and Ford doesn't publish a number. My guess, again a guess, would be high teens with a 6.2L V8, 10-speed auto and 3.73 rear axle ratio. It would likely be pretty similar to a 7.3L V8, 10-speed auto and 3.55 rear axle ratio (note the 6.2L V8 doesn't come with a 3.55 rear axle). Both of those trucks would be SRW, regular cab, 2wd F_350. 2. Payload differences on 250 vs 350 - there is a massive chart here (media.ford.com/content/dam/fordmedia/North%20America/US/product/2020/f-series-super-duty/2020-Super-Duty-Tech-Specs.pdf) see pages 5-6 listing all the payload differences. It is so dependent on how you configure the truck and impossible to have a simple answer. 3. Engineering difference - frames are the same, engines are the same, radiator is the same. It is really about the rear axle, stronger springs to handle the additional load. I'm sure there could be a driveshaft and U-joint difference as well and I'd need to follow up with Ford on that. But, typically, the way you add additional towing and payload to a truck is through the springs and rear axle. Those are the main differences between the F-350 and F-250. The trucks are pretty much identical everywhere else. Thanks for watching!

Pickup Truck Plus SUV Talk Thanks! Would you know all if any of the mechanical & suspension updates/upgrades on the new Ford F-150 5.0 besides the 10-speed trans? Tim, if you had to pick a 1/2 ton 2wd Truck with a Naturally Aspirated motor that rode the smoothest and got the best HWY MPG’s 20+ while still having at least a 1,800 pound payload what would you choose? Ford 5.0 with the smallest/lowest rear gear ratio Tundra with a V6- if they still offer a V-6 Chevy Silverado 4.3 Dodge Ram with the 3.6 Ford F-150 with a 3.7 V6 Naturally Aspirated Chevy Silverado 5.3 with the smallest/lowest rear gear ratio Chevys Turbo 4 Cylinder Silverado seems tempting and fun but I wonder what’s the advantages over the 4.3? Faster? Also have you ever driven the F-150 2.7 Ecoboost? Reliability seems sketchy from what I’ve seen in the past unless they’ve done some updates/upgrades

Ok. Let's see. 1. There is a new F-150 coming out later this year. No details yet. However, there should be ZERO differences between the suspension with different engines. They simply swap in a different engine on the assembly line. 2. The 4.3L V6 Chevy, 3.3L V6 Ford are really for work truck customers. In fact, the Chevy you can't get in any trim besides work truck and I was recently at a Ford dealer who told me he doesn't even bother ordering the 3.3L V6 because nobody is buying it. They are buying the 2.7L turbo 6 instead. 3. The Sierra and Ram trucks ride the smoothest. They also come in non-turbo and the MPG differences are within 1 MPG of each other. Those are EPA numbers and in real-world driving, I bet there is really about zero difference. It seems like you don't want a turbo, but you want good HWY MPG and a fun to drive truck. Sorry, you can't do it. The small displacement turbo engines are faster, more fun to drive and return better fuel economy than a naturally aspirated engine. That's why everyone is building them. Hope that helps.

My 1997 7.3l PowerStroke E450 15 mpg @ 14000lbs @ 55mph! Ford should have built SuperDuty & E350/450 Hybrid & Full electric instead of gas guzzler 7.3l. In 2012 Ford dropped Escape Hybrid, Lexus/Toyota took full advantage. Ford Repeat in SuperDuty market, now 10+yrs behind. So while Fords new 7.3l @ 3-8mpg loaded, competition will be waving passing by the 7.3l owners stopped refueling, in their new fuel efficient HD Hybrid, Full Electric or fuel cell HD Trucks.

Exactly.

It's actually still a small block. 9.65 deck height and I think a 4 something bore spacing.

So what does that mean? 12MPG? 14?

Ryan Sheard I’m thinking 14-16 based on drivers style and conditions unloaded. Single digits loaded.

@@Pickuptrucktalk If I can get 14 to 16 on the tremor I will buy that in a heartbeat.

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I think it comes down to programming the trailer into the system. The BLIS uses this information to determine the blind spot radius, then shoots out radar appropriately to determine blind spots. The radar shoots out pretty wide.

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You would think as Americans we would have come up with something a little more.... american. Like Big Foot. I mean it leaves one large carbon footprint hah.

@@mewrongway no logic

@@mewrongway I like it.

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I have the car but no GoDZiLLa

Frankly, I don’t know. I didn’t focus on on road driving differences between the two.

Hmm... really? I have owned and driven both. I'll take the turn the dial versus reaching over and pulling the lever. Faster, safer (keep both eyes on the road) and just simply more convenient plus you get the floor space back.

I have manual shift in all 3 of my super duty's and have friends with the electric shift they are always having trouble with their four wheel drive systems not engaging and not wanting to disengage once its in four wheel drive. Manual shift has not once every gave me any issues putting in or taking out of four wheel drive. A good friend of mine owns a mechanic shop and he sees anywhere from 5-10 trucks a month with electric shift four wheel drive problems.

@@cobeytriche4808 I've seen the opposite the electric shift has been more reliable for me and people I know. I've had a few floor shifters with trouble no electrics yet.

@@Pickuptrucktalk Convenient, yes. Reliable? Not compared to a lever. I will take a shift on the floor 4x4 system over an electronic gizmo EVERY time...

@@rockie307 How does a floor lever fail? I don't know what the failure mode would be. I have had electronics fail, and those typically require a shop to fix...

I've heard some of these issues. I just bought a '21 F-150 with a 10-speed to drive around this year and I'll update if I come across anything.

My 17 f150 was in the shop for 3 months for the transmission..I hear the 10 speeds are different on the f250...ready to do a trade

My buddies 19 f150 was lemoned out due to the transmission. He had the 5.0 with the 10 speed. Ford bought it back after some fighting and he picked up a 20 f250 since he liked the 19 f250 I have.

They are great transmissions. You just need to service it more often than the recommended manufacturer schedule. 40k mile services is what I suggest.

10 speeds are trash. Being a joint venture between gm and Ford I have it in my 21 tahoe z71. Things been in the shop 2x in the last month for overheating. Bought it new still hasn't been hooked up to a trailer and barely have 4k on it. Just getting the trips to the dealer doc'd for lemon law. Would avoid at all costs for an almost 70k vehicle

No idea. That’s strange. Ford usually allows you to spec about everything.

Probably has to do with what trim level you go with.

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I hear you. I prefer backing up as well, however, this is pretty slick. And no, Ford isn’t covering any damages. You are still in control. Thanks for watching!

Gimmick add on to please the Carolla drivers buying a truck.

Geezus - you guys need to lighten up. If something aids in the maneuvering of a vehicle or that vehicle with trailer in tow, it doesn't directly effect the size of your dangler.

Lol the Ridgeline is basically an Odyssey with a half-assed “bed”.

😂 true that.

@@Pickuptrucktalk you know you're looking forward to a Ridgeline dually!

All over the midwest.

Do you know anyone from Crawford Nebraska?

You mentioned in a video about a restaurant in Harrison Nebraska.

Theresa Truax nobody from Crawford. I’ve played the golf course once. Not sure on restaurant you are referring to.

Wish I could help. Good luck!

@@Pickuptrucktalk Thanks for replying back.

I will take the 7.3 Ford!

wasn't a good comparison. They should've tested them same day. I wouldn't be surprised if the chevy still beats it on mileage, but it would've been closer.

Good point and the engine needs break in time. Also it’s typical that Ford will likely fine tune for high altitude with software updates

You get it. Thanks for commenting.

@@Pickuptrucktalk The transmission constantly searching goes to show, I think, that the 7.3 gas just doesn't have enough. My '11 6.2L drove me crazy when going up a hill with stock & trailer. Admittedly the percentage time one might be towing heavy loads is pretty small. Instead of gear hunting, I wish they had brought out a manual for the 7.3L. If I had a blank check, the 6.7 would be best pick.

You had me until the "cheap aluminum" comment. You miss the mark there, but I agree with the rest. More gadgets, more failure points. I never want anything more than an XL or possibly XLT because of that...

People that make statements they have no experience or knowledge about are pathetic. Kenworth and Peterbilt trucks have been using aluminum to build their trucks for decades, strong ,lighter and doesn't corrode. Best longest lasting trucks in the world. Hit a moose broadside with my aluminum hood 389 Pete and nothing broke except a plastic headlight lens,then drove it home 400 miles. Frign cheap aluminum,should have bought a tin Volvo.

@@joefell7845 I guess that is why they started making beer cans out of aluminum instead of steel, 'cause they are stronger!! From watching the Ford assembly line, there are about 6 workers, the rest are robots and if something goes awry just melt it down and start over. Cheaper than steel bodies. I also suspect your semi has a heavy cast aluminum bumper, and heavy fenders, otherwise the moose is crashing through. (I wouldn't brag about running over moose). There has been guys around here rue the day when their gooseneck hitch slides off the ball and punches right through their military grade aluminum bed. Military grade beer can. (It wouldn't keep me from buying a Ford :) Because of their hp and reliability but not the aluminum.) P.S. Aluminum doesn't rust but it corrodes. And by the time you have aluminum as strong as steel there is no weight savings. Airplanes are made from aluminum because of weight not strength.

@@billstewart2433 You clearly don't live somewhere that has moose. It is not if, it's when a truck driver will hit a moose in the winter around here. FYI, Steel beer cans went by the wayside due to cost and corrosion.

@@billstewart2433 like I said you may have experience with beer cans but none with an aluminum bodied vehicle. Also to think someone would "brag" about a moose collision also has ZERO experience in North country driving.

For what you get thats not bad for todays prices and what you get with other companies

@@jamesanderson562 I bought a 2014 ram Cummins with 42k on the odometer from a dealer that looks show room new from steam to stern from the top mast to her bilge for 35,000U.S $$ ..they're out there if u hunt for them..THANK YOU for the reply

Barry Hussein Soetoro I’ve had my 2019 f250 for a while now with no wobble at all. I’m crossing my fingers!

Hugh Jinvaney good luck I recently got out of my 2018 f250 with 11k miles for it.

That's just a delete option. If you pay little more it's not included. Reading Ford forums. They figured out it's the track bar with tre. Upgrade it with no tre and NO death wobble.

Barry Hussein Soetoro I’m sure they would’ve accommodated you, Mr President.

MrVegaslive nope wish that was true. Ford has no real fix at this time. I fought and fought with ford on my 2018 and the ford engineer said absolutely no real fix. Just “bandaids” at this time until they come up with the correct parts.