Is The Orthodox Church MORE Consistent Than The Catholic Church? ☦️

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Voice of Reason

Voice of Reason

3 ай бұрын

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@yoana3975
@yoana3975 2 ай бұрын
You’ve gotta be kidding me😂 it was the catholic who added the “and the son” , papal infallibility, purgatory, and penance/indulgence. Orthodox stuck to the original doctrines which did not include these above additions. Catholics reformed the orthodox church.
@QSD22
@QSD22 26 күн бұрын
Moreover, the Holy Photian council was accepted by East and West condemning the Filioque and Papal Supremacy. Oh, this union lasted for 200 years before the Decretals (forgery) was utilized to separate from the True Faith.
@mikaelrosing
@mikaelrosing 25 күн бұрын
Orthodox church has indulgence, to the patriarch of Constantinople. Orthodox atually have the fiilioque its just called economic procession. Im protestant btw.
@iblameabel
@iblameabel 21 күн бұрын
Excuse my ignorance, but what is wrong with “and the son” ?
@veridicusmind3722
@veridicusmind3722 21 күн бұрын
@@iblameabel It’s about the Filioque clause. Orignally, the Nicene creed stated that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father, but the Catholic church later changed the creed to say that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son.
@cameron4339
@cameron4339 20 күн бұрын
The Church Fathers taught the Filioque
@TheRealJohnDoe2.0
@TheRealJohnDoe2.0 3 ай бұрын
Ooof. You're actually wrong on this one. The orthodox church is more traditional because it has preserved many of the ancient practices and traditions of the early Christian Church. Everybody knows this.
@cinelli07
@cinelli07 3 ай бұрын
Where's their popes
@Stolen_entertainment
@Stolen_entertainment 3 ай бұрын
​@@cinelli07Where is the commandment for needing one? Especially one who is infallible? We have a bishop as the Western Church had aswell, before they tasted power go cope.
@juliansoto2651
@juliansoto2651 3 ай бұрын
Don't talk for everybody. Facts aren't subject to democratic vote.
@cinelli07
@cinelli07 3 ай бұрын
@Stolen_entertainment Christ spoke to Peter. Peter is the rock, the established church of Christ. St Ignatius of Antioch in his letter to the Smyrnaens 110AD says Catholic not orthodox. For 1054 years all of a sudden the orthodox is correct? Christ himself established one church Through Peter.
@cinelli07
@cinelli07 3 ай бұрын
@@Stolen_entertainment Do you know the definition of INFALLIBLE?
@SkiourosTimmy
@SkiourosTimmy 3 ай бұрын
Yea.. People adding stuff to the Nicene Creed are definitely more inconsistent than the ones adhering to the original and quoting it every liturgy.
@dotdash2284
@dotdash2284 3 ай бұрын
Talmbout the niceno-constantinopolitan creed B?
@nova8091
@nova8091 3 ай бұрын
Vatican 1 and 2 were actual massive changes that asserted things never found before that and this guy never came up with a single specific answer
@crispminer
@crispminer 3 ай бұрын
Wheres your specific one?
@nova8091
@nova8091 3 ай бұрын
@@crispminer Vatican 1 pope having infallibility and the Necessaire of communion with the Bishop of Rome are pure innovations never found before the schism, not even patriarchs are infallible in orthodoxy only the ecumenical councils are infallible.
@shibahtash4700
@shibahtash4700 3 ай бұрын
Like substantial atonement or satisfaction doctrine , the early church taught christus Victor which the orthodox still follow
@jditsfights256
@jditsfights256 3 ай бұрын
@@shibahtash4700the Catholic Church believes that as well. Idk what you’re talking about
@jditsfights256
@jditsfights256 3 ай бұрын
They introduced new doctrine but they didn’t change doctrine in Vatican 1 and 2. There’s a difference
@juliansoto2651
@juliansoto2651 3 ай бұрын
A protestant like Ruslan talking about tradition is the most comical thing ever 😂😂
@supplanting
@supplanting 2 ай бұрын
Don't make fun of protestants when you're no better
@moffe5241
@moffe5241 Ай бұрын
"A Protestant like Ruslan". This seems heavily connotative. Ruslan was born Armenian Orthodox in Azerbaijan and was forced to flee to America due to persecution. Unfortunately he was sexually assaulted in the Orthodox Church and professed Atheism until he joined the Protestant Church. Ruslan has Orthodox friends who he has discussions with, he even sometimes takes his kids to visit the Armenian Orthodox church. Although Ruslan is no longer Orthodox, he isn't a brain dead idiot.
@showtime1235
@showtime1235 Ай бұрын
christian’s trashing other christian’s is always the best
@EnemyOfDevils
@EnemyOfDevils 15 күн бұрын
In the book of James it says who are you to Judge another brother or sister. We should be happy there are so many people following Christ!!
@-Doomer-
@-Doomer- 3 ай бұрын
Catholic Church has changed more
@theprodigy408
@theprodigy408 3 ай бұрын
Lie
@Mach15-20
@Mach15-20 3 ай бұрын
Maybe ”outwardly”, non-essentials. But the EOs have changed their beliefs.
@History_MadeMe_Catholic
@History_MadeMe_Catholic 3 ай бұрын
One example would suffice. Doctrinally.
@EliaMiliteChristi
@EliaMiliteChristi 3 ай бұрын
Prove it
@muktarcool8795
@muktarcool8795 3 ай бұрын
The fact u guys are diving into sects is a sign of not a correct religion 💯 shouldn't everyone be saying the same thing like now there's sum ppl that worship Jesus mom like wtf. Oh yeah the creator finna question you. Wtf was u thinking
@IM_UK
@IM_UK 3 ай бұрын
Guy. The ctholic church just changed the bible interpretation again. Pope accepted mutliple gender theories. Catholicism is the firthese thing away from any religion.
@Mach15-20
@Mach15-20 3 ай бұрын
He literally said that’s one of the biggest enemies of humanity. Get your facts straight!
@PohjanKarhu
@PohjanKarhu 3 ай бұрын
​@@Mach15-20He acccepts blessing same sex couples. That's only a small step from multiple gender theories. Accept the truth, catholic church has gone woke. Why? Because the catholic church is obsessed with being the biggest church. They brag about it constantly. That means they're more vulnerable to following trends. The catholic church tries to look traditional, but is inherently doomed to fall 😂
@alfamejeu7237
@alfamejeu7237 Ай бұрын
Why do orthodoxs love to change the Popes words 😂
@joaorafaelaguiardeoliveira5719
@joaorafaelaguiardeoliveira5719 Ай бұрын
No, the popo did not this.
@IM_UK
@IM_UK Ай бұрын
You sure? Check yall facts. Even the Baptist have adopted blasphemy
@laloj2236
@laloj2236 3 ай бұрын
Orthodox have cool beards and cool art. It makes people think they’re more old fashioned
@crispminer
@crispminer 3 ай бұрын
As a Catholic, I must admit. They have not changed their liturgy.
@NoName-yl3pb
@NoName-yl3pb 3 ай бұрын
How’s that Novus Ordo going for ya
@Pfyzer
@Pfyzer 3 ай бұрын
​@crispminer wait till find out non-european orthodoxy....😮‍💨 None of that worshipping Jesus the demigod stuff💀💀😬
@ericbickel436
@ericbickel436 3 ай бұрын
That’s Orthodox Jews, not Catholic 😂
@Hshdzsskidi
@Hshdzsskidi 3 ай бұрын
But why did they bring religion when Christ finished it at the cross.
@jstrugglin4404
@jstrugglin4404 3 ай бұрын
Wanna debate that claim?
@dp34576
@dp34576 3 ай бұрын
Bro claims the Orthodox Church is losing teachings, but Francis writes an encyclical on blessing 2 gay individuals (totally not a couple tho right?) This guy needs to stop larping as an Eastern Catholic or as an expert in anything
@Stolen_entertainment
@Stolen_entertainment 3 ай бұрын
My words exactly, notice how he didn't even mention one tradition we supposedly changed
@prateekantony
@prateekantony 3 ай бұрын
Hang on, what exactly is wrong with the Church blessing two gay individuals who ask for the blessings in order to conform to God’s will and to receive God’s grace to separate from their sinful union?
@Madman-2023
@Madman-2023 3 ай бұрын
This guy doesn't understand the multitude of videos explaining the recent document on blessing gay people 😆 the orthodox church is not consistent and there are videos on that!
@prateekantony
@prateekantony 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. It’s is very unbecoming of Christians to make allegations without even trying to study the evidence. By the sounds of it doesn’t look like he bothered to look past the headlines and read the fiducia supplicans.
@prateekantony
@prateekantony 3 ай бұрын
@@RuthenianCatholic333 What was so confusing in the document? Saying the use of “couples” and “union” is confusing so disingenuous. The document in its context is crystal clear what it’s trying to convey. It even says something along the lines of (I’m paraphrasing here) blessings for same-sex couples should never resemble wedding rituals or coincide with civil union ceremonies to avoid “confusion” or scandal. The document describes what a blessing is, and with that definition, how gay couples can receive the blessings. People saying it’s confusing either haven’t read it clearly or have their own agenda or doing it just to be rebellious. I don’t know enough about Fr Martin to comment on that, however from what I’ve see, he has a cunning, deceptive essence about him. He sends out a to non Catholic feel (to me anyway), however, haven’t seen any statements or actions that are explicitly non-Catholic, just very questionable. There are always going to be people to purposefully misinterpret things to fit their own narrative what better example that people misinterpreting Scripture to their own ends. I’m not saying he did that because I just don’t know.
@ty_m02
@ty_m02 3 ай бұрын
bruh both sides say this and idk whos right. ig ill continue to be orthodox☦️
@ty_m02
@ty_m02 3 ай бұрын
@RuthenianCatholic333 thas crazy because i jus did. i recently read some church fathers and i see the papacy. Ignatius talks about a President over the churches in his works. tbh i love orthodoxy and i didn’t wanna leave it bc i love icons. but i thank God byzantine Catholics have that tradition. ill be joining a byzantine catholic church in 2 weeks. also another thing is theres barely orthodox churches. the only churches near me are catholic. so praise God i found a byzantine one within a 20min drive from me.🙏🏽☦️
@juliansoto2651
@juliansoto2651 3 ай бұрын
​@@ty_m02 thank God, you'll find home in the Catholic Church
@justreal4379
@justreal4379 3 ай бұрын
YOU ARE ON RIGHT PATH. EO Never changed !
@The_Lil_King
@The_Lil_King 3 ай бұрын
I am a catholic. But the most important thing to prioritize is not tradition, but rather remembering that Jesus died for us on the cross
@barone1865
@barone1865 3 ай бұрын
@@ty_m02 I was born a Roman Catholic and followed the papacy for fourteen years. Do not be deceived; it was never spoken of by the Holy Father Ignatius of Antioch. The Bishop of Rome excommunicated himself from the rest of the Church. The Orthodox Church has continued to follow the dogmas and traditions of the ancient church, untampered with. Father Michael of the Living Orthodox Channel used to be a Byzantine Catholic and is now a ROCOR priest. He is a great resource on the problems of the papacy as well as the many flaws of "Byzantine" Catholics. Might I also add, that the Latin Church is filled with innovations and the Mass is extremely altered. I attended a mass last week and they didn't even recite the Apostle's Creed before the eucharst and there was no chanting. The usage of a censor is optional; women are allowed to serve at the altar, and the dogmas of papal infallibility stem from the 1800s, along with the Immaculate Conception. They believe in the filioque, which literally changes who God is. Also, inform me where St. Ignatius of Antioch speaks of the papacy. I studied his letters awhile back and might be able to help you out. You will abandon the precious mysteries of Christ by going down this path of heresy. Please, speak to a priest.
@cyberbules3085
@cyberbules3085 3 ай бұрын
NAME ONE ASPECT
@antranigfernandez8286
@antranigfernandez8286 3 ай бұрын
your voice sounds exaggerated bruh
@keeganbluegrass
@keeganbluegrass 3 ай бұрын
That's hilariously untrue. The Roman catholicsadded far more to their doctrine
@juliansoto2651
@juliansoto2651 3 ай бұрын
Like...?
@Mach15-20
@Mach15-20 3 ай бұрын
Demonstrably false. You need to study instead of presupposing.
@zisischartampilas6601
@zisischartampilas6601 3 ай бұрын
@@Mach15-20 kid orthodox church didnt fucking sell papers that claim to garantee you a spot in heaven get out of here dumpass
@Tradition75christian
@Tradition75christian 3 ай бұрын
We need to pray for protestants.
@CarlosRodriguez-dl1xg
@CarlosRodriguez-dl1xg 2 ай бұрын
why?
@Tradition75christian
@Tradition75christian 2 ай бұрын
@@CarlosRodriguez-dl1xg hahaha
@CarlosRodriguez-dl1xg
@CarlosRodriguez-dl1xg 2 ай бұрын
@@Tradition75christian why?
@Tradition75christian
@Tradition75christian 2 ай бұрын
Because as catholics were supposed to Pray for sinners perishing out side the church
@CarlosRodriguez-dl1xg
@CarlosRodriguez-dl1xg 2 ай бұрын
@@Tradition75christian protestants arent sinners
@NorbertoULopez
@NorbertoULopez 3 ай бұрын
Name the specific areas and points they both have changed. Both these guys have to be specific and not speak in generalities.
@jamesmakis7900
@jamesmakis7900 3 ай бұрын
Both catholic and orthodox can claim apostolic roots, although the pope started teaching different theology to all the other patriarchs, because when Rome fell the franks instilled the own pope. Orthodox cannot change to the political changes, the Eastern Orthodox Church is still the true Catholic Church to this very day
@cinelli07
@cinelli07 Ай бұрын
Do you have a successor to the chair of Peter?
@Wizzardofficialchannel
@Wizzardofficialchannel Ай бұрын
Even as a Muslim, i know Orthodox are more correct than Catholics, Love to Christians from a Muslim❤
@user-oe9go7wb7j
@user-oe9go7wb7j Ай бұрын
You are confused..the orthodox hasnt changed the RCs did, including the creed
@xpictos777
@xpictos777 2 ай бұрын
The Romans have changed way more than the Orthodox. One look at icons and monastic rules and it is obvious. Rome has changed everything from fasting to the actual novos prep services and which way the priests face.
@Hugowtum
@Hugowtum Ай бұрын
So you're saying to me we have to abandon the faith of most churches on the east and abandon democratic synods and councils to submit to a bishop with an inflated image of himself that can arbitrarily and anti-democratically change and create doctrine any time he wants with no one to stop him and still error? Hell yeah, I'm definitely joining that church! That is the reason we don't submit to Rome, it's because Roman Catholicism ends up being dangerous and damaging to the tradition Christ taught to the apostles in the name of some self proclaimed superiority. ☦️
@jordanpresnell4996
@jordanpresnell4996 Ай бұрын
This is so wrong. Papal infallibility is an innovation, Filioque is an innovation, Orthodox practice the Liturgies of St John Chrysostom and St Basil which are at the latest from the 4th century. Orthodox still have the iconostasis, our iconography is the same as the ancient church vs the Romans with naked babies in their churches from an innovation after the renaissance, Orthodox priests have beards just like Christ and the apostles, our monastic tradition is the same as the 4th century desert fathers vs the strange vain monastic tradition started by Francis of Assisi in the 12th century which looks nothing like the desert fathers. I could keep going but that will suffice funny how this dude cant name any examples just makes a unreasoned assertion.
@cinelli07
@cinelli07 Ай бұрын
So for 1054 years Orthodox was wrong?
@jordanpresnell4996
@jordanpresnell4996 Ай бұрын
@@cinelli07 You must have read my comment wrong I’m saying this is what the early church was and Orthodoxy still is proving it is the Church
@cinelli07
@cinelli07 Ай бұрын
​@@jordanpresnell4996 33AD catholicism was established by christ. 1054 orthodox
@jordanpresnell4996
@jordanpresnell4996 Ай бұрын
@@cinelli07 Really then why does Roman Papism look nothing like Christianity of the first 1000 years? Why did 4/5 of the Patriarchs go with Orthodoxy and the Roman Patriarch influenced for political reasons leave the original church? Why did the Roman’s change the creed, monasticism, iconography, ecclesiology, change the faith of the holy fathers to include more influence from Platonism and Aristotle? Why did 90 percent of the champions of the ecumenical councils come from the Orthodox countries? Why is everything about Papism an innovation to what Christianity was? Ever hear of doctrinal development?
@cinelli07
@cinelli07 Ай бұрын
All that while ALL early church fathers were CATHOLIC. one church established by Christ. Sorry Orthodox was the first CHRISTIAN DENOMINATION. Orthodox left came back and left again. It's historically known
@ZaidKhan-ig5zj
@ZaidKhan-ig5zj 3 ай бұрын
What do you guys think about the council of Nicaea
@Mach15-20
@Mach15-20 3 ай бұрын
We accept it as the first holy and universal council.
@juliansoto2651
@juliansoto2651 3 ай бұрын
I think it's backed by Scripture
@vinceallen4577
@vinceallen4577 3 ай бұрын
None of this matters if your not born again, repent and give your heart to Jesus, he's the way the truth and the life
@nikadgod5152
@nikadgod5152 3 ай бұрын
The Catholic church is playing fast and loose with tradition these days. I say this as a catholic
@cinelli07
@cinelli07 Ай бұрын
Orthodox came out of catholicism
@pete3397
@pete3397 3 ай бұрын
Maybe, the point is that neither Rome nor the East can claim a pure, historically consistent Tradition for many of the doctrines they have "developed" since 1200.
@Stolen_entertainment
@Stolen_entertainment 3 ай бұрын
Loool stop lying you can assert all u want... couldn't even mention one tradition we changed what a non-arguement right there 😂
@user-ip9cd2kg4b
@user-ip9cd2kg4b 22 күн бұрын
Maybe it wasn't every couple hundred years, but the Catholic Church has changed it's traditions. More than once...
@notthatseriousapologetics
@notthatseriousapologetics 3 ай бұрын
I’m sorry bro, I love your content, BUT, the pope is a big breaking point to me. It’s not possible for the pope to inherit infallibility from Peter even IF Peter was infallible in his faith. The current Pope Francis proves this.
@Orthodoxyandzataar
@Orthodoxyandzataar 3 ай бұрын
The liturgy/worship is a reflection of dogma…. Tell me how you can look at the Catholic Church today and not see how you are lying to yourself.
@user-zz7cj3rm2k
@user-zz7cj3rm2k 21 күн бұрын
Now, the catholics added good traditions some times, but these days, the people of the catholics strive further from Jesus each day with their blasphemy. How dare they call themselves christians? Yes, for orthodoxy does not practice the pope tradition, but the roman catholics may have the decency to follow their already changed enough doctrine, instead of taking it and trashing it. The roman catholics may follow god, but only follow god from the brain, not from heart. From body, not soul. If you’re willing to follow God, you cannot do something because of your pleasure. You must let god take you, trust him for he will lead you in the right direction.
@fletcherdentalcare6950
@fletcherdentalcare6950 3 ай бұрын
The Bible has never changed, that’s the answer. Not one jot or tittle
@Spexificaid7791
@Spexificaid7791 3 ай бұрын
What language is the one you own?
@Zypher.
@Zypher. 3 ай бұрын
Most wrong comment ever.
@IM_UK
@IM_UK 3 ай бұрын
Most delusional person in the history of mankind.
@Davidrt35
@Davidrt35 3 ай бұрын
​@@Zypher.Cope harder chuslim
@Davidrt35
@Davidrt35 3 ай бұрын
​@@Zypher.Chuslim 😂
@doGnitsurt
@doGnitsurt 3 ай бұрын
Do a video on Sunday laws if you haven’t already- Please.
@frogger2513
@frogger2513 28 минут бұрын
The first schism is pre nicene creed. You are misrepresenting or misunderstanding history. Filioque. The west excluded the east here. They almost had the east but they forced it upon them in so far as i understand it. There is an equal argument here the west initiated schism. My hope is the east and west are united. Unlikely under the current pope.
@user-dw8rv9mi3l
@user-dw8rv9mi3l Ай бұрын
Every historian says it was the west that changed I'm pretty sure your pope admitted this ☦️☦️
@gigischuster3078
@gigischuster3078 3 ай бұрын
I became Orthodox Christian 6 years ago and unfortunately I had retired my service dog and I was in the process of getting another service dog my question to you father is why is it I understand separation of church and state grants all houses of worship the ability to refuse service dogs where is anywhere else they would have to accommodate a service dog that is not emotional support not therapy or an Esa but our actual service dog. I have my new service dog is medical equipment and although I finally thought I found a church that's Orthodox Church to come to they had a double standard while people with a oxygen machine or a wheelchair crutches or a walk or a welcome to sit anywhere I had to be sat out of sight out of mind. The excuse was from the priest that they didn't want any disruption or anybody being not focused in church because it could be a distraction to have a service dog there I said you have the power and the authority to explain to everybody that my service dog is a service dog not to distract him and to give us space you could do that but instead you're choosing to ostracize me yet claim to welcome me into the Orthodox church but I have to go by your rules of sitting in the back next to a pillar where I cannot hear I cannot see what's going on in the church or here because of my one condition Wichita Falls have surgery for Meniere's disease and that it is because you don't want any distractions but wait a second you also want to add in that I shouldn't be coming and attending your coffee hour but you want ties from me to the church but at the same time you're telling me not to after church services go and meet with other parishioners but to just go home. That sense of your alarm goes off in my head that not only is it just spiteful of what we want to welcome you but we don't want to tell you to leave your service dog at home but at the same time if you do bring your service up we need to give you double standards that we wouldn't put on people with a wheelchair or oxygen machine because we don't want people being distracted I've been in church I've been distracted by the sounds of obnoxious oxygen machines and I've never said leave her oxygen machine at home or ask the Prairies to tell him to leave her oxygen machine at home. So how is this any different it seems to be a double standard you want my ties to the church you want to let me worship and receive communion after everyone else receives communion but at the same time you don't want people to be aware I'm even in the chair and to me that's saying you don't want me being part of the parish and partaking in Paris activities because you're afraid of what might happen and I'm kind of like these people we'll see service dogs in their lifetime outside of the church and this is no different than me going to an ER or a ENT or a dentist or anywhere else to a wedding whatever. However telling me I can come to church but I got to stay in the back and then leave after is telling me that I'm walking through those doors but I'm not welcome to become part of the parish I'm not welcome to mingle with a parish and get to know the people in do perish because what it will distract them from church house that after after Church's services are over how is that distracting after Church's services are over if people want to mingle with me and you're telling me don't mingle with anybody go home and don't even go to the coffee hour. I don't feel then that I have a place in that church even though it's north of Knox church and they claim to go by Orthodox teachings and the biblical teachings because I feel like I'm being shunned to the back like Rosa Parks that have a right to be there but at the same time I don't have the right to be included because I require a different form of medical equipment that is not an oxygen machine or a wheelchair. I'd like to know where the Orthodox Church gets off saying that they're welcoming to people with service dogs but then literally not including them instead putting them to the side out of sight out of mind just to go to workshop and then telling them that they have to wait till everyone and you have to come up later to receive your community it's degrading and humiliating why am I even part of the Orthodox Faith then I thought the Orthodox faced it for something better than how I'm being treated this was not how I was raised to treat other people but if that is how the Orthodox faith in the churches are going to treat people require a medical alert service animal I need to look to go to a different church and yeah I don't want to but whatever choices of Orthodox Church giving me. Therapy dogs and they have a right to ask them for medical documentation on our script because they are exempt from Ada law Section 3 they could do that if they wanted to clarify whether or not that dog is a service dog or not and even contact the service dogs training academy or organization that they went through to get their service stuff they could do that but instead they say we're going to exclude you from every activity and you're just going to have to come up on your own alone to receive your communion after everybody and you're going to have to sit in the back and after Services is done I'd appreciate if you could just send go on out and go on your way like okay then I'm not paying ties to your church why am I even here then cuz it tells me you're just doing this to get an additional parishioner in here but the same time I'm not a person or cuz you're really not letting me partake in all of the things that are part of being in an orthodox church and a parish your ostracizing me by saying you don't want me to mingle with a parish after church get to know anybody in my Parish you just want me to be there for worship receive communion and leave I don't think that is something that God teaches to do and treat people based on their disability and the medical conditions they have where they require medical equipment that anybody has a free should be treating somebody like that and then claiming while we're not really ostracizing you we just don't want you to do this this and this but it's okay if it was somebody else with a wheelchair or oxygen machine. And I like people's take on this because I don't know whether or not to walk away from the Orthodox Faith at this point and that is literally where I'm at and it's going to be a hard decision because I can't just come in there and sit there in the back like Rosa Parks be discriminated against but then told I'm not fully discriminated cuz you're allowed to worship here but that's what we're going to allow you to have because you have a service dog with you everything else we'd like you not to and respectfully not do with the parish because you have a service dog with you.
@RealStarfall
@RealStarfall 3 күн бұрын
Bro's onto nothin. Catholicism split off from the one holy apostolic church and the one holy apostolic church continued on as eastern orthodoxy.
@user-wo9lf5ll9e
@user-wo9lf5ll9e 17 күн бұрын
Wrong,my friend,it is the other way around
@user-uu8bs8tg1k
@user-uu8bs8tg1k Ай бұрын
Catholics stick to the tradition of praying to mary, believing in purgatory. Aski g a priests to send thier sins to jesus, thinking the host is really jesus.. praying to the dead. And not being born again
@UnboxingLab
@UnboxingLab Ай бұрын
This is true propaganda 😂
@lifewasgiventous1614
@lifewasgiventous1614 3 ай бұрын
"Losing certain aspects to what the cathloic church was dogmaticaly defining"?.. Im confused that makes it sound like hes right
@BIGGOODBOY
@BIGGOODBOY 3 ай бұрын
I agree with a lot of what you said but I’m not so sure that Allah was commonly used by Arab Christian’s before Muhammad I’d be curious to see any evidence of that
@ElioChami
@ElioChami 8 күн бұрын
POV:you are trying to go to hell
@ratatoskr9366
@ratatoskr9366 3 ай бұрын
They're consistent on that fact that they can't decide on anything.
@stonerplayin6458
@stonerplayin6458 3 ай бұрын
I agree to disagree... I think both churches changed but what is going on in the Catholic faith rn is simply a madness.
@pg_makedon_2960
@pg_makedon_2960 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂 Funny guy good luck ☦️☦️☦️
@HuckleberryisonYT
@HuckleberryisonYT Ай бұрын
This is the guy who says nestorius wasnt nestorian. You know, the guy that MADE nestorian theology. I wouldnt listen to this guy if I was anyone here.
@steelfalconx2000
@steelfalconx2000 28 күн бұрын
I ... don't think you actually know anything about church history dude.
@ColeB777
@ColeB777 3 ай бұрын
I’m going to inquire for eastern catholicism.
@ArmaniSiwak
@ArmaniSiwak 3 ай бұрын
Traditional not traditional, it is not important, we catholics and orthodocs should stick together and believe in what we should, we are brothers, we shouldn't fight over who is right or who is wrong, Deus vult, ave kristo rex✝️✝️✝️
@justreal4379
@justreal4379 3 ай бұрын
VOICE OF NO REASON NOW!
@NicholasBalducci
@NicholasBalducci Ай бұрын
This man constantly makes videos with incomplete and very biased information. Take it for what it is.
@lukedegraaf1186
@lukedegraaf1186 3 ай бұрын
LUKE 14:26 KJ21 “If any man come to Me and hate not his father and mother, and wife and children, and brethren and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.
@alexpanagiotis4706
@alexpanagiotis4706 Ай бұрын
What horrible nonsense
@cinelli07
@cinelli07 Ай бұрын
Prove it with scripture
@alexpanagiotis4706
@alexpanagiotis4706 Ай бұрын
@@cinelli07 Why do you not study the Holy Fathers and their commentaries to the Scriptures? Everything is there
@alexpanagiotis4706
@alexpanagiotis4706 Ай бұрын
@@cinelli07 What shall I prove yu clown? THAT CHRIST WAS CRUCIFIED IN JERUSALEM? THAT HIS TOMB IS THERE? THAT JERUSALEM IS THE MOTHER OF ALL CHURCHES? That St. Peter was Bishop of Antiochia? That St. James presided the Synod in Jerusalem? That St. Peter was silent? THAT ST PETER WAS SENT BY OTHERS? THAT ST. PAUL resisted St. Peter?
@cinelli07
@cinelli07 Ай бұрын
​@@alexpanagiotis4706 back it up with scripture
@cinelli07
@cinelli07 Ай бұрын
​@@alexpanagiotis4706 33AD catholicism began. 1054 Orthodox. It's well documented. Google know it why don't you?
@Foosh-ok3dc
@Foosh-ok3dc 2 ай бұрын
Didn't know Rocky Balboa was Catholic. The more you know.
@cw6560
@cw6560 3 ай бұрын
ST Paul to the Romans today still is part of the first church My brothers. The ortodoxs are still Apostolic though.
@cinelli07
@cinelli07 Ай бұрын
It's well documented
@sparaticmaul5453
@sparaticmaul5453 3 ай бұрын
Go to the new mass then if rome has not changed.
@sakellarioudimitris7439
@sakellarioudimitris7439 4 күн бұрын
Voice of Reason? Maybe,Voice of STUPIDITY! LONG LIVE ORTHODOXY TRUTH HURTS
@bogdancomic2512
@bogdancomic2512 Ай бұрын
What is this yappology cant we just all agree on one belife
@idkwhattoputhereahhhhelpme
@idkwhattoputhereahhhhelpme 3 ай бұрын
Brother, I ask you to please make more into this! Some of your videos give me lots of interest, but they're short. Please, elaborate. (coming from a Catholic)
@hectorgonzalez998
@hectorgonzalez998 19 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 this guy has jokes
@forevershampoo
@forevershampoo Ай бұрын
Whats up w these foos voice
@Joseph-cs4tb
@Joseph-cs4tb 3 ай бұрын
Sure you wanna say that ?
@JuanGonzalez-kb3gm
@JuanGonzalez-kb3gm 3 ай бұрын
i totally agree with your video, just to add; people claim the Catholic Church has changed, to some sense of course it has. Times have changed, the church fathers left us with a lot of information but some things they just didn’t anticipate we are talking about 2000 years. Has anyone gone to the pyramids and called something else since they have changed. How about the mustard seed, it didn’t stay a seed forever it had to grow and to become a tree. Nothing shocking, only a reason someone finds to argue.
@comicsunblock
@comicsunblock Ай бұрын
WOW straight up lying to your viewers😂
@AverageCanadianTy
@AverageCanadianTy 3 ай бұрын
Aerial toll houses anyone?
@nova8091
@nova8091 3 ай бұрын
Those aren’t canonized doctrine it’s kinda like the folk saints and sacred heart worship
@sinfulyetsaved
@sinfulyetsaved 3 ай бұрын
Ignorance but hey your roman catholic its all Ignorance
@Stolen_entertainment
@Stolen_entertainment 3 ай бұрын
​@@RuthenianCatholic333Wrong pugatory is definitely a core belief of the roman caths lol. Whereas The toll houses in Ortho are not, as the guy prior pointed out it is uncanon and not taught in church, just mythology of the souls journey after death.
@bestietala6461
@bestietala6461 3 ай бұрын
Stick to ur on book the bible or something else
@randallsunderland4331
@randallsunderland4331 2 ай бұрын
This is utterly false
@cinelli07
@cinelli07 Ай бұрын
Prove it's wrong
@chrisnunya4015
@chrisnunya4015 3 ай бұрын
Id argue they've both changed just as much as the other!
@Juni47054
@Juni47054 3 ай бұрын
Sola Scriptura!!!! Orthodox and Catholic both same. You guys don't hold Scripture as ultimate authority. It's the same in Mark 7, Pharisees bring up their tradition, so Jesus rebuked them saying "you guys lost word of God because of your tradition." Jesus is saying to Catholic and Orthodox. Sola Scriptura!!! Scripture Alone!!!!!
@cinelli07
@cinelli07 Ай бұрын
Where in the Bible does it say that everything is in the Bible?
@CrippieMannster
@CrippieMannster Ай бұрын
Sola Scriptura refutes itself 2 Thessalonians 2:15 If sola scriptura is true then why are there dozens of Protestant churches that can’t even agree if predestination is real or not? If sola scriptura is true then how do you know the Bible is compiled with the correct books? Where in the Bible does it say for example, mark, Luke, John, and the Old Testament are parts of the whole Bible? Sola scriptura can’t explain anything in the Bible itself because there are a thousand ways to interpret different passages that without tradition are all equally possible in meaning.
@cabeebs
@cabeebs 3 ай бұрын
Jesus Christ did not follow tradition. Catholicism and orthodox merely isn’t biblical
@cb8655
@cb8655 3 ай бұрын
Why isn’t it biblical? Prove it.
@cabeebs
@cabeebs 3 ай бұрын
@@cb8655 simply follow Jesus Christ and read the Bible. Do not follow religious tradition from people 🙏 Jesus Christ did not have to prove anything to anyone who opposed Him, especially the Pharisees
@Aurelius_Aurora
@Aurelius_Aurora 3 ай бұрын
Ok can you prove Martin Luther or any reformer were prophets with authority given by God? Can you prove it not man-made tradition going by what the reformers told you to believe when it breaks away from what came before it? From my point of view Martin Luther had no power to decide which books should or shouldn't belong to the Bible. Those reformers were just mare man. If anyone else added to the Bible and declare parts the Bible no longer scripture due to it not matching up with their personal beliefs, you be outrage but when Martin Luther does it , all sudden it's okay.
@cabeebs
@cabeebs 3 ай бұрын
@@Aurelius_Aurora man that’s a tough question. I simply read the Bible and came to the conclusion that Jesus is our lord and savior, died on the cross to forgive our sins and three days later rose from the dead. I thank Him for giving me a life with real purpose with a peace of mind. In turn we should spread the good news which is of course Jesus Christ
@PohjanKarhu
@PohjanKarhu 3 ай бұрын
That's a huge fallacy. He didn't follow the tradition of THAT day. That day isn't today. That doesn't mean he was against following tradition. Did Christ say anywhere "following tradition itself is bad always and everywhere"? Like dude, you're saying read the bible and follow christ. But we're humans. Humans are fallacious. And societies change. You say follow christ, read the bible. But isn't that the whole debate? What does the bible say? And what does christ want us to do and be? The point is, you're infected with modern worldly culture, politics, and thinking. How can you know what Christ said and meant, and what the Bible says, when you're interpretating everything with your 21st century eyes clouded with modern politics and ideology? That's where tradition comes in. I'm not saying follow blindly. But to wake up in the modern world, read the bible and interpret things however you want, is not the truth. Jesus Christ was against the tradition of the day. But he sure as hell set a new tradition. He was a holy man that judged empathically but harshly. Why would he suddenly be all for do what thou wilt? Or interpret however you want? Christ lived 2000 years ago. If his word and the bible is the truth, we cannot interpret them based on modern day fancies and thoughts. We can progress. But we have to do it while keeping the core truth alive. That means listening to tradition and saints that were closer to Christ than we are.
@chrisstratton8443
@chrisstratton8443 3 ай бұрын
I'd argue that they're both dogshitmatic
@crispminer
@crispminer 3 ай бұрын
Says the prot
@BirchKST
@BirchKST 3 ай бұрын
@@crispminerthe prots are correct
@lukedegraaf1186
@lukedegraaf1186 3 ай бұрын
​@mtbirchfield no, Allah is the true God.
@Davidrt35
@Davidrt35 3 ай бұрын
​@@lukedegraaf1186chuslim 😂 go back in the fields kid
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