He is fun

CC and Wally many additional evacuations currently. No wildfire is easy. My folks evacuated a few hours ago, I’m sure Alex may have as well. Fingers crossed, prayers said for all those in the area.

I hope Alex and this husband are doing well!

This is a Chinese Car? China is gearing up for war with the USA. I think the Polestar is not an ugly car but it is too Chinese for me. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fJp-oKt-qsm8YXU.html

@Random KZfaq Watcher @Guided Meditation - Both of you are incorrect. China and the USA have been in a symbiotic relationship for decades. They both need each other. China needs the USA to buy their goods. And the USA needs China to produce the goods. Both countries need each other. And you don't kill your goose that is laying the golden egg. The days of world wars are over. We are all too tied together..which is a good thing. However..if there is a nuclear war it will be between Asian and Middle Eastern countries..such as between Israel and Iran or Pakistan against India. Those countries are not as stable as the USA & China so anything can happen.

If you see statistic view the review by Bjorn, he got all the stats.

@@general65644 yeah but stats isnt all that matters. On the paper something can be very differet from the real world

Much Ado About Nothing You might also like savagegeese!

Agreed. I love hearing about new EV’s rolling out

@@theamazoner4075 having the word "killer" in your title wont get you demonetized

Tell hyundai that lol.

@@erikjj235 and Toyota/Lexus.

@@palebeachbum nah Japanese are classy. Korean is cheap and flashy

@@erikjj235 nothing classy about Toyotas.

@@palebeachbumthey last long, are easy to fix, ages well and mostly made in the USA 🇺🇸

That's because a LOT of former SAAB engineers has been involved here

@@tomervik4738 What former Saab engineer was involved in the styling? This car is a Volvo Concept 40.2 designed by the same team that designed the Volvo xc40 and other current Volvos.

@@benjaminsmith2287 Yes you are correct the whole CMA platform was developed by a joint venture company between Volvo and Geely, CEVT headed by the former R&D Cheif officer from Saab and with over 1000 former Saab engineers. That's why everybody sees Saab in this car. Of couse Thomas Ingenlath was the head designer but got lot of influenses by the former Saab team.

That’s what I thought too!

It's like ten grand overpriced. It's cheaper in Canada

Anthony C that is due to trumps tariff war with China.

Made in Chiynah so I'd be nervous about reliability, software security and parts down the road (with world taking harder stance on Chiynah this year)

@@James-il3tq better than anything that is made in the united snakes.

Ziyang Taoen I think you mean without massive financial support from the Chinese Central Bank to save face.

@@doublehh666 Maybe you should look up Geely's rank on Fortune Global 500 before thinking the only way Chinese companies can compete is government printing money

Peizxcv it is not mutually exclusive to have billions in sales AND billions in subsidized loans for acquisition financing, interest payments and working capital. The Europeans have been benefitting also from those arrangements. And during their bankruptcies, Ford and Gm also. Without financing, lifeblood runs dry for R&D and acquisitions to increase revenue numbers more than organically. No one is amazed by Fortune 500 rankings when they are in a showroom or test driving a car btw. Just a tip from me to you.

I agree. Ford was milking Volvo for its safety and tech. Once they ran out and werent giving them money, they began to fall flat. Geely is extremely smart for buying them. The Chinese love (ironically) high quality cars. Volvo being a good brand and now owned by Chinese makes for a future powerhouse.

Alex Martens looks like I forgot to mention those loans also provide hundreds of millions for dealer network support, marketing budgets and paying off influencers.

Indeed, now we don't need to endure shitty build quality to go EV, but the Korean's are good to.

I've been told that my entire life

Excellent looking EV!

Norway has 11th highest effective marginal tax rate in the world @ 62%. Believing you don't pay tax on your vehicles isn't correct. Everyone pays for those through welfare state big taxes 💸 taxfoundation.org/taxing-high-income-2019/

@@James-il3tq VAT is excluded for electric cars in Norway. That's what OP meant.

And for those taxes, Norwegians get a lot of important benefits, and their infrastructure is up to date. "Taxes are the price we pay for civilization," as Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. said, and Norway is very civilized. Check their Covid-19 statistics, for example, or the ranking of their public health system.

how much it will be for tesla model Y performance? Seems like the car is over prices , US starting price from google is $61k not even compared with ~$40k for model 3 or model Y starting price.

@@MaksymDomarev Model Y is going to be cheap af once giga berlin is up and running+quality will be great too, at least the build quality of the M3 in china showed that with new Factories the quality drastically improved. I personally wait for Giga Berlin and buy a tesla, P2 might look decent, but we have no data on e.g. battery degradation, or the safety of the car+ i love the other features a Tesla has, not to mention their charging network.

Yeah, it seems at the moment Tesla still has the best long distance charging solution.

Electrify America has gotten much better. I believe Tesla will come out with a CCS adapter.

But more diesel trucks in front of tesla superchargers probably

I know....🤭😂

As a Volvo XC90 owner, I have no issues with the infotainment system whatsoever.

Android Auto is actually NOT supported. Android Auto lets your android phone run it on top of a car's existing infotainment system, whether it be BMW iDrive, Kia UVO, or whatever. In this case, the Polestar's infotainment system is not the Sense system you get in Volvos, it is actually an android infotainment system, which is very confusingly called "Android Automotive", which is not the same as Android Auto. So if you get the Polestar 2 and have an android phone, the android automotive system will interface with compatible apps in your phone and let you use those apps inside of the existing infotainment system. So similar, but not the same as Android Auto. It should be better actually, since it will be better integrated and you don't have to switch between AA and your base infotainment system like in other cars if you needed to fiddle with some other function, for instance. Carplay will work like other cars, presumably a part of the screen will be given to Carplay when you hook up an iPhone to the Polestar 2. Overall I'm optimistic that this might be the best new car infortainment system going forward. I applaud Volvo and Google for making it versatile and also allow for other OS to be used such as Apple. Unlike Tesla, which is the Apple of car companies, insists on making its infotainment system a walled garden, and not letting you interface it with either Android Auto or Apple Carplay.

@@tren133 Volvo's actually utilize the "Sensus" infotainment system. I didn't want your lengthy dissertation tainted by incorrectly referencing Volvo's "Sense" system.

can you describe why? by numbers, this car is more more expensive , even compare to model Y

Or, you need to earn more and stop moaning. It's only marginally less efficient than the equivalent Tesla, but pretty much the same price.

For 59k what’s so surprising about it?

I’m sure they wouldn’t pick a poorly built one to send out for test previews.

Curious to know if you have test driven a Tesla model 3? Since at 60k i would expect the build quality to be better than a 37k car. The price is more comparable to a Model S imo.

@@MarkBraggs Volvo has been building cars for decades. It should have better build quality than Tesla

@@EarthlingNo7 If you really were buying model 3 ,you wouldn't say it's a 37k car more like 50k

Made in Chiynah which means CCP likely stealing your data and spying on you 👁

@@James-il3tq troller spotted.

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And range And access to superchargers And sentry mode And 250kW charging

@@biplabkumarghosh6300 And Autopilot And constant over the air upgrades And historical 3%/year depreciation

Despite one is classified a sedan the other a crossover, other than the ground clearance, I find the two similar in dimensions, weight, range and performance. Wonder if the I Pace is worth the extra $10K + $2K CA rebate.

sell uyoiur Model 3 and buy this one or the Vw id4.. so many more models to choose from in 2021. Get rid of your Model 3 when you can.

what makes you think this way ? It looks so much worse to me compares to model Y and model why is cheaper.

Maksym Domarev While I mostly love my Model 3, dealing with Tesla is a real pain. With my wife’s Volvo, I can talk to a human being if I have questions and I can get a service appointment within a day or so. With Tesla, it took over a week last time. While Teslas are miles ahead on tech, their build quality isn’t great. They aren’t designed well for repair so minor accidents can end up totaling a Tesla. I’ve seen tons of horror stories online.

@@geft Well, I'm a Model Y owner, I had a minor production issue with the interior. It's ok considering my car was from an early production batch. That was fixed in 1 minute but yeah I waited a bit for appointment, but that was very minor to me, so it's ok to wait in that case. I never had a single issue except for an interior one. I guess that's the benefit of using electric cars, do not use service apart from changing tires? Is there something wrong with my views? :)

Maksym Domarev As long as your car doesn’t have any faults you are correct. Waiting for scheduled maintenance isn’t a big deal. When your car is disabled then it is a problem.

@Jonathan I. Ezor Obviously you should buy what you prefer, but as a Model 3 owner I would encourage you to take some time to adapt to the Model 3 before you decide. I thought I would hate the spartan interior, and very quickly found myself loving its simplicity. Just a thought.

I would agree but it'll suffer low adoption if it can't develop a dealer network. Currently, your choice is essentially, LA/San Fran or NYC. No vehicle, ICE or EV gets my attention without having. a nearby dealer for delivery, parts and service.

I mean, there are others out there, Jalopnik bought the Changli Nemeca EV from China. Kinda looks like a 4 door Tuktuk, lol.

You might want to look Xpeng, especially P7 while smirking around...

I guess Royce rolls are Indian then

It's made in China, but the brand is Swedish ! Just as Jeep is made in the USA but owned by the Italian brand Fiat ! do you consider Jeep an Italian brand ? certainly not, it doesn't matter where a car is made, what's really important is the engineering and where that comes from ! Jeep has its own R&D department, so any new models should maintain its image as being a robust built to last brand, the same for Landrover, owned by the Indian company Tata, but because the company has retained its own designers and engineers, it keeps its own image and distances itself from Tata for obvious reasons, Landrover are also made in Slovakia, China, India as well as the UK, and probably other countries, but we don't consider Landrover to be an Indian brand, or a Slovakian brand because its made in Slovakia !

interestingly why? it's worse but all means compares to mode 3, and more expensive even compare to model Y

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If you listen carefully, you can hear that space below the trunk floor pleading to host a spare tire.

@@alanhorn8253 the silence is deafening

the constant comparison journalists do to tesla is getting really old

Volvo still has a very large, and I think newly profitable ICE car lines, scattered around the world, which needs to transition to hybrids (which they are doing now) before they can fully electrify. So they are using Polestar to do a quick launch of EVs under its own brand but still using Volvo platforms and styling cues to save money. I guess as the rest of Volvo learns from Polestar's EV experience and start to electrify, they will focus on Volvo's traditional consumer markets including sedans/wagons/SUV style vehicles, and by that time Polestar hopefully is more mature and larger as well, and will have the resources to continue to evolve as Volvo's performance division like they have always done, maybe with their own distinct styling, and also focusing on body style such as coupe (like Polestar 1), performance hatch (Polestar 2), and "coupe style" SUV (Polestar 3). Note that there are no slow Polestars, and even the Polestar 2 is 400 HP and AWD. I presume future Volvos will have cheaper and 2WD models geared towards the non-enthusiast consumer market.

The absolute state of Americans. Car buying decisions are made based entirely on how easy it is to carry their extra large Starbucks drinks.

@@danfisher765 , it's not the only reason but it basically leaves this the one and only car to only have one cupholder in the front (outside of supercars). Everything else being equal, you're buying the car that doesn't force your passenger to hold their drink the whole ride.

2 decent cup holders are mandatory. Sorry. But they spent how many millions developing this and all they could was shoehorn a little extra cup holder under the armrest? And don’t tell me it’s the state of Americans. Please. People drink beverages in their car and that’s just a fact. Even my dinky little Miata has better cup holders.

george idarraga even old european cars have barely any cup holders. I have a Euro spec s80 and it only had one center cup holder. I had to add the Us spec second cup holder because no one in Europe drinks when driving tbh. And If they do it’s usually a small closed bottle that fits in the door. I even had to change the rear center console to add cupholders from an american model.

Automatically dimmed rear view and door mirrors Ventilated seats (only with expensive leather seats option) also... Heated steering wheel High pressure headlights washers Heated windshield fluid nozzles Factory tinted windows Homelink ...

Yes, quite a few actually. Ventilated seats, LED matrix headlamps (this isn't much of a factor to Americans however), dimming door mirrors, blind spot monitoring and collision avoidance, higher end audio system, nappa leather, extending thigh cushions, etc. BUT there are other things it lacks that Tesla has like more cameras for Sentry Mode, a history of responsive OTA updates for new features (Polestar could do this, but we have no track record), the Tesla has faster DC fast charging, etc. It's a give and take.

@@AAutoBuyersGuide The headlights will be a huge difference for us Scandinavians! Cant wait to see a winter comparison between the PS2 and TM3

As the others said but also 19” diamond cut two colour alloys, 360 view cameras and separate drivers display.

Eh, no. The drivers seat has a sensor built in so if you get out, the car knows. He could have put the hazard lights on though.

PJ McCartney : Tesla running their own battery factory paying off, I would guess.

Factor in the US federal subsidy and most luxury buyers would not care all that much about the price difference.

This is the high end" Polestar 2 model, just like the Tesla 3 started life. Lower cost versions of the 2 will come, just like the 3. And they won't have the build quality of the original Hyundai Excel.