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Is This Viltrox 85mm "Clone" BETTER? Tokina 85mm f/1.8 ATX-M vs Viltrox 85mm f/1.8 STM II

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Tom Calton

Tom Calton

Күн бұрын

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@arthurb1400
@arthurb1400 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. What bothers me with Tokina FE lenses is that to get a firmware update you need to send the lens to Tokina. Viltrox released numerous firmware updates for their 85mm and I didn't see any for the Tokina. Also AF performance doesn't seem to be consistent with both lenses. For some reviewers it works flawlessly and some reviewers have AF issues.
@TomCalton
@TomCalton 2 жыл бұрын
Very good point! Something I definitely didn't think about - thanks for sharing!
@tkarim
@tkarim 2 жыл бұрын
The Tokina brand has been longstanding in the photography world. I owned the MT-X 85mm and it was a wonderful lens for the price. One of the smoothest focus rings, and amazing build quality!
@TomCalton
@TomCalton 2 жыл бұрын
I'ma big fan of this Tokina 85mm - defintely an unsung hero. The Viltrox is still good, but the imrpoved image quality with the Tokina certainly gives it the edge.
@osvhalt1304
@osvhalt1304 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the lens review! I like your reviews. I would like to see a review of the new lightweight metal lens Yongnuo FE 85mm F1.8S DF DSM 2022.
@monstertsai13
@monstertsai13 2 жыл бұрын
I saw your video 「ULTIMATE 85mm f/1.8 Lens Test」 and bought a Tokina 85mm. It is so good. Thank you. From Taiwan
@TomCalton
@TomCalton 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Glad you're enjoying it! 👍🏻
@user-qp4qc3fs3w
@user-qp4qc3fs3w 8 ай бұрын
I knew Tokina was gonna win! I bought my first Tokina around 25 years ago because it was so much less expensive than the Nikon zoom equivalent & still made fantastic images. It was *much larger* & *significantly heavier* which was a negative for a fair amount of folks. I, however, loved the look & the weight didn't bother me at all. I found it helped to keep the camera steady when shooting at longer focal lengths & slower shutter speeds (before IBIS). Viltrox has only been making lenses for a few years so even if the specs were pretty much equal on paper I knew Tokina would outperform. All that said, I like your videos & I'm glad you made this one 👍
@nAcolz
@nAcolz 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I missed during the autofocus comparisons, for Fuji the Viltrox comes with eye recognition focusing, is it also the case for the Tokina? I actually got the Viltrox last week and just happened to get an article recommended about these lenses which linked to your review! Good video too
@TomCalton
@TomCalton 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, for Sony E-Mount at least, the EyeAF function works on both of these lenses. Thanks for checking out the video, hope you found it useful 😃
@gogoasa333
@gogoasa333 Жыл бұрын
Have you used the Tokina on the A7IV? Any freezing or lock up the camera? Seems like there's a compatibility issues within the firmware
@philipgowdy
@philipgowdy 2 жыл бұрын
To the point as ever with a few Lady images to give us light relief..Spot on.
@TomCalton
@TomCalton 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Philip, glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for the support as always!
@80-80.
@80-80. 2 жыл бұрын
Tokina's logo is more stylish as well.
@TomCalton
@TomCalton 2 жыл бұрын
True. And the logo on the lens cap is a shiney blue colour 🤩
@aaronthompson40
@aaronthompson40 2 жыл бұрын
My dude. I asked, and I received. Not gonna lie, I picked up the Tokina shortly after I asked the question, but you validated my choice. Thank you so much!
@TomCalton
@TomCalton 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure, thanks for watching and commenting. Hope you enjoy the lens!
@viveksathish
@viveksathish 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison and thanks for putting this up. However, I’m very curious about the eye cup you are using. Could you please share some information on this ?
@TomCalton
@TomCalton 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Here are the eye cups I use: amzn.to/3aaAwOr
@RassoOuest
@RassoOuest 2 жыл бұрын
Tom ... You're the man !!! 💪😊
@TomCalton
@TomCalton 2 жыл бұрын
No, I'm pretty sure YOU'RE the man! 😜 🤜🤛
@TheUnMarketingGroup
@TheUnMarketingGroup 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic comparison - thank you. In your manual focus test did you find one more linear than the other or better for achieving repeatable manual focus pulls?
@TomCalton
@TomCalton 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! No, not really. Both were the same other than the Tokina having more resistance, which I know some people like and others really dislike, so that's down to personal preference I guess. Hope this helps!
@TheUnMarketingGroup
@TheUnMarketingGroup 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomCalton Thanks Tom. That's good to know. Much appreciated.
@Thomasmcse
@Thomasmcse 2 жыл бұрын
I love my Tokina! Such an incredible Lens. Just can recommend that Lens.
@TomCalton
@TomCalton 2 жыл бұрын
It's brilliant 👍🏻
@elastvd7503
@elastvd7503 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic comparison of two great lenses
@almizilero
@almizilero 2 жыл бұрын
Did my own Test on these two (and the Sony/1.8) and came to similar results. Image quality of the Tokina is just slightly better. But I had two big problems with the Tokina: 1) It sometimes shut the camera down completely. Had to remove the lens and the battery to get it working again. 2) The aperture did not close properly, which caused very misshapen bokeh balls when stopped down. Both problems occured with two copies of the Tokina, so I sadly have to give up on the lens :( Did your Tokina(s) have any of these problems?
@janzelhill7234
@janzelhill7234 2 жыл бұрын
i bought the tokina because from your previous vids that it highly comparable to sigma! Happy with my purchase!!
@TomCalton
@TomCalton 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you're enjoying it!
@otojavaxishvili1263
@otojavaxishvili1263 10 ай бұрын
Which one do you recommend, which one is better?
@marcusviniciusdecarvalhoes6373
@marcusviniciusdecarvalhoes6373 2 жыл бұрын
Great job! Is there a 2x teleconverter that can be used in this set? Without losing autofocus?
@christopherconkright1317
@christopherconkright1317 Жыл бұрын
Is this the viltrox mark II is it better to get viltrox mark II or tokina
@tykimikk8605
@tykimikk8605 2 жыл бұрын
Just get the viltrox it has usb port and viltrox updates their firmware regularly and i mean regularly!
@TomCalton
@TomCalton 2 жыл бұрын
Fair point 👍🏻
@indrajith9768
@indrajith9768 Жыл бұрын
Does tokina 85 mm 1.8 fits apsc body sony camera? Or does it have difference in mm.?
@TomCalton
@TomCalton Жыл бұрын
It's a full frame lens, so it'll work on both full frame and APS-C cameras. Hope that helps!
@melenriquez8985
@melenriquez8985 2 жыл бұрын
Either they did licensed the design, or the design's patent has already expired and is open for use. It doesn't matter much if the materials used are different or implementation is different. At the end of the day, it's just a matter of preference. Or cost. Which one is cheaper? Same with the ease of upgrading firmware or support.
@hirschkuh1982
@hirschkuh1982 2 жыл бұрын
The Tokina is great I used it but it's shape hurts my finger. The best 85mm but the one thing made it impossible to use for me :(
@tangoromeo556
@tangoromeo556 2 жыл бұрын
How is the Tokina compare to the Sony 85mm 1.8 ?
@kino174
@kino174 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe both of the two brands bought the same optical design from a third company. A former LAOWA optic engineer exposed that LAOWA designed the E 10-18mm F4 for Sony.
@poripaira8890
@poripaira8890 4 ай бұрын
I am not sure who is cloning who here. I have used the Tokina branded lens during the film days of the 70's and later years. Tokina brand coexisted with the like of Sigma, Tamron, Vivitar, Soligor and others during the film era.
@tomascad7588
@tomascad7588 2 жыл бұрын
Price in Czech Republic - Tokina 557 euro / Viltrox 413 euro 🙂
@TomCalton
@TomCalton 2 жыл бұрын
In your case then, the Viltrox probably get's the point for Price and then it's a tie. Image quality vs Price - which would you pick? 🤔
@janezhitori6203
@janezhitori6203 2 жыл бұрын
Viltrox offers firmware updates, does Tokina offers that too?
@TomCalton
@TomCalton 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they do, but apparently you have to send the lens back to Tokina, which is a bit annoying!
@BennyMcKinnon
@BennyMcKinnon 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Tom, you had no compatibility issues with the Tokina 85mm 1.8 on the A7iii body with the current firmware on both lens and body?
@TomCalton
@TomCalton 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ben. Nope, none myself during testing. Are you having problems then?
@BennyMcKinnon
@BennyMcKinnon 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomCalton I only just received the lens in the mail. Yet to test it out in the field but tests around the house haven't shown any compatibility issues. Just some comments and written reviews elsewhere stated issues as well as the Tokina website. Only problem is if there are the lens itself needs to be sent away to have the firmware updated, less than ideal 🤦‍♂️
@TomCalton
@TomCalton 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've heard some people having issues. If on the off chance you do get any problems, I would check your camera firmware and update it to the latest version, if possible. If that doesn't fix it, return the lens (if you can) and get another copy. As far as I know, there doesn't seem to be any clear reason why some have the issue whilst others don't. My suspicion is that it's a camera firmware thing. But that's just a hunch. Fingers crossed everything is ok for you!
@BennyMcKinnon
@BennyMcKinnon 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomCalton appreciate your insights!
@Sufibooks
@Sufibooks 2 жыл бұрын
What about Viltrox firmware update and Tokina no way of updating Thats a big one
@tobeornotthatistheqs
@tobeornotthatistheqs 2 жыл бұрын
1:19 2:46 3:12 3:32 3:57 4:17 4:26 5:01 6:06 모터소음, 선예도 면에서 토키나가 앞선다. 토키나가 5만원가량 더 비싸고 토키나는 원형 후드, 빌트록스는 화형 후드.
@superelectic45
@superelectic45 Жыл бұрын
I thought I read the Viltrox is a rebranded Tokina?
@TheT2tracer
@TheT2tracer 2 жыл бұрын
As of 1/15/2022 they are both the same price at $399....the plot think-ins
@JESSROCKEDChannel
@JESSROCKEDChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Tokina it is
@sureshlokre4742
@sureshlokre4742 2 жыл бұрын
The Viltrox discount code is not working??
@TomCalton
@TomCalton 2 жыл бұрын
Oh really? It should do as it's still active. Are you typing it as all one word? TOMCALTON
@sureshlokre4742
@sureshlokre4742 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomCalton yep! I copied n pasted it n typed as well didn’t work! Anyway thanks for the response I went ahead n ordered it on Amazon. No worries!
@TomCalton
@TomCalton 2 жыл бұрын
Weird! Sorry about that. Glad you got sorted though 👍🏻
@azuragrafis
@azuragrafis 2 жыл бұрын
makasih kak infonya, keren
@christopherconkright1317
@christopherconkright1317 Жыл бұрын
It could just be they use the same factory that doesn't brand the lens but sell with the name
@robertsaca3512
@robertsaca3512 9 ай бұрын
In my county the viltrox is cheap, the tokina more expensive than the Sony.
@AlexandruVladutu
@AlexandruVladutu 2 жыл бұрын
With the Sony 85mm being almost half the size of the Tokina and with discounts here that lower its price where I live (Romania) to 435 euro (for BF and some other holidays).. just get the Sony lads.
@TomCalton
@TomCalton 2 жыл бұрын
The Sony is a nice lens. It's not really half the size of the Tokina, but it is slightly smaller and lighter. The Tokina is actually better in terms of image quality than the Sony, though. The Sony is also notorious for blue fringing, which is a problem the Tokina and Viltrox don't have (I owned the Sony for a few years and the fringing really annoyed me).
@AlexandruVladutu
@AlexandruVladutu 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomCalton good to know, thanks. Can that problem be fixed in post?
@TomCalton
@TomCalton 2 жыл бұрын
Fringing can be hidden but not really removed. All that happens (in Lightroom and PS at least) is that the blue fringing is desaturated, so instead of having a blue edge around everything you have a grey one. Which, to be fair, is less noticeable, but certainly not perfect.
@AlexandruVladutu
@AlexandruVladutu 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomCalton horrible, damn. Thanks for replying. Any other popular lens exhibiting the same issue?
@TomCalton
@TomCalton 2 жыл бұрын
The cheaper Sony lenses all exhibit blue fringing to varying degrees. The Sony Zeiss 55mm f/1.8 is meant to have it really bad. I also owned the old Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM for a few years and this had really bad blue fringing too. The new version isn't quite as bad.
@mikecar52
@mikecar52 2 ай бұрын
Tokina should sue you for this review assumptions.
@TomCalton
@TomCalton 2 ай бұрын
Have a day off mate 🤣
@mikecar52
@mikecar52 2 ай бұрын
@@TomCaltonRubbish. Tokina should sue you.
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