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@ReelTimeYT 14 күн бұрын
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@Baelbard
@Baelbard 15 күн бұрын
The green council did not care what viserys or alicent thought. they were going to take the throne from rhaenyra no matter what
@liljackypaper
@liljackypaper 14 күн бұрын
They were going to try at least.
@TheIrishKat
@TheIrishKat 14 күн бұрын
​@@liljackypaper how would they not? They heir was living on an island in the water, they had everything they needed to quickly usurp
@Baelbard
@Baelbard 14 күн бұрын
@@liljackypaper try? They literally did it in the first season
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 14 күн бұрын
Name your daughter, a girl, heir to the iron throne - then have a son... and name him AEGON of all things... just asking for trouble.
@KelliFranklin
@KelliFranklin 14 күн бұрын
Rob I was thinking the same thing about Rhaenys. She's acting in the capacity as a hand and she's also giving the best council to Rhaenyra so far. Rhaenys really is the queen that never was.
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 14 күн бұрын
she's the mentor character...IE obi won ... every protagonist has to have one in some capacity. it's story structure 101.
@hali_55
@hali_55 15 күн бұрын
It’s interesting how Alicent misunderstanding Viserys’s words seems like such a huge plot point when really it had no impact on the events of the show. The Green Council were already planning to install Aegon on the throne with or without Alicent’s approval, and Otto’s words to Aegon in the previous episode suggest they never believed her in the first place. So all Alicent’s involvement did was stop Otto’s assassination attempt on Rhaenyra way back in S1E9.
@Baelbard
@Baelbard 15 күн бұрын
It’s the idiot fans making it into a bigger thing than it is. They really think it all started from a misunderstanding when that is obvious not true.
@girlwiththeblues
@girlwiththeblues 14 күн бұрын
exactly, that's why pinning it all down on alicent is stupid
@rooroo-99
@rooroo-99 14 күн бұрын
It's probably because Alicent did have some level of sway with her sons before the coronation. It is why Cole being the one to retrieve Aegon was such a big deal, because she pushed for them to not kill Rhaenyra outright. It was her idea to have the coronation asap, and it was her idea for it to be the Conqueror's crown and sword that Aegon wore. The point is, if Alicent was not on board, she could have pushed back or perhaps set up some sort of peace talk situation that might have averted the rash decisions that were made. Aegon was still quite gullible, the coronation gave him all the legitimacy he needed. But of course it's all a big "what if".
@hali_55
@hali_55 14 күн бұрын
@@rooroo-99 there was never any mention about who decided on when Aegon’s coronation would be, all we do know is the Green Council immediately launched into plans of crowning Aegon the second they found out Viserys was death. All Alicent did was say Aegon would wield the conqueror’s sword and wear his crown. If Alicent had tried to get Cole to take Aegon somewhere or hide him, all Otto would have to do is order Cole to stand down since he has higher authority than Alicent. Otto speaks with the King’s voice, therefore he didn’t need Alicent’s cooperation though it was nice to have it. The only sway Alicent had was in convincing Aegon not to kill Rhaenyra. Even Aemond who would rather have Aegon on the throne than Rhaenyra would not have listened to her had she supported Rhaenyra.
@LaCheeserie
@LaCheeserie 14 күн бұрын
@@hali_55 red herrings are a thing in storytelling. and this one has more than one.
@hali_55
@hali_55 15 күн бұрын
The Harrenhal sequences were perfect, the vibe of the castle is exactly how I imagined it. The castle is said to be haunted which is why you get this feeling of unease right from when Daemon first arrives.
@duggs4456
@duggs4456 14 күн бұрын
The Brackens and Blackwoods are a fun part of the books, both Fire and Blood and the ASOIAF series. They absolutely hate each other, the pettiest feud of all time. The history book puts the Battle of the Burning Mill as the first battle of this civil war. Which is kind of funny because it didn't really have anything to do with Rhaenyra or Aegon, it was just two houses who want to kill each other finding this war as an excuse.
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 14 күн бұрын
that's why they glossed over it. but its being used as a fore-shadowy metaphor
@badlndss
@badlndss 14 күн бұрын
the word "prince" in High Valyrian is gender neutral so the prophecy would be "the prince or princess who was promised" it could be jon or daenerys in game of thrones and well... they fucked that up too
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 14 күн бұрын
probably dany as she represent fire with her dragons.
@aishaabdi7430
@aishaabdi7430 15 күн бұрын
Harrenhall looks that way bc Aegon the Conqueror fought Harren the Black (dude who built harrenhall and at that time ruled the riverlands) and Aegon's dragon Balerion the Black Dread burned a good portion down with dragon fire and its been looking like that ever since
@thegirlwholovesmusic
@thegirlwholovesmusic 14 күн бұрын
I’m sorry by Rob claiming that Ned once said 22:39 “this tree is super special” about the weirwoods, had me dying. 😂
@taneshah.1260
@taneshah.1260 14 күн бұрын
Someone in a group I'm in said they gave Crispy the "Cersei's Atonement Special". 🤣It really is a terrible haircut.
@lafields08
@lafields08 14 күн бұрын
I love it because he looks far less attractive and that better matches my hatred for his character.
@taneshah.1260
@taneshah.1260 14 күн бұрын
@@lafields08 That's fair! 🤣
@thorologys
@thorologys 15 күн бұрын
i like that we get to watch s2 with you guys for the first time cause we didn't get to watch s1 with you so we're all just learning these things along the way together lol (besides book readers). but yes rob, jon snow's targaryen name is also aegon!
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 14 күн бұрын
Jon being Aegon I believe is a TV show thing, not so much a book thing. the more distance we get from the show, the more GRRM reveals that he kept his major book spoilers to himself... and sort of steered Dean in Dan towards their own theories
@a.j.1819
@a.j.1819 7 күн бұрын
@@penoyer79Nah there’s too many hints to Jon being Aegon in the books
@hali_55
@hali_55 15 күн бұрын
The show never really digs into Criston Cole’s past or his perspective as a commonborn man living amongst royals so I appreciate them highlighting the casual racism (Dornish) & classism he’s likely faced on his way to the top and still faces now even as Hand and LC of the Kingsguard from nobles who are far less deserving of their titles. Because despite his more questionable character traits, it’s undeniable that he’s an extremely skilled fighter and a good strategist who did earn his place at court.
@KelliFranklin
@KelliFranklin 14 күн бұрын
I've seen nothing of his skills as a strategist so far. He's been acting rash and lashing out for his own failures as far as I can see.
@hali_55
@hali_55 14 күн бұрын
@@KelliFranklin his strategy of take houses for Aegon’s side one by one until they reach Harrenhal or gather a host strong enough to take Harrenhal is a good one and the best that’s been laid out so far in the Green Council.
@KelliFranklin
@KelliFranklin 14 күн бұрын
@@hali_55 That's a fair point.
@hali_55
@hali_55 14 күн бұрын
@@KelliFranklin I don’t blame you tbh, the show doesn’t really highlight his skills nor knowledge and he’s pretty unlikeable so it’s hard for a lot of the audience to care
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 14 күн бұрын
@@hali_55 i mean Criston literally built Aemond from the ground up.
@kat309
@kat309 14 күн бұрын
It's not just Alicent taking Viserys' word at his death bed. During Aegon's birthday feast he tells her that he had a dream where his son was sitting the Iron Throne. But it doesn't matter. No one really believe Alicent besides Aegon. The council was already at work
@WVelaryonFirstOfHisName
@WVelaryonFirstOfHisName 14 күн бұрын
Actually, even AEGON didn’t believe her (see S1 ep 9)
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 14 күн бұрын
@@WVelaryonFirstOfHisName that is true
@RS-bn1ty
@RS-bn1ty 14 күн бұрын
Loved how they portrayed Daemon’s guilt and how he feels towards hurting Rhaenyra
@Cool_beansmh
@Cool_beansmh 14 күн бұрын
The prince that was promised was actually dany as confirmed by Grrm. Shes fire and the walkers are ice. The translation isnt exact, its prince or princess, its not gendered. So thats when Viserys last words were “it is you” he believes Rhaenyra is the prince/princess who was promised. Remember he thought he was talking to rhaenyra, alicent was on the side where he had no eye. Edit: Everyone bring up Jon Snow got rocks in their brains. GRRM literally said she’s fire and walkers are ice. It isnt a debate. Hes still dead in the books. Everything else is just theories moving forward.
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 14 күн бұрын
so what's the significance of Jon Snow's lineage? a dragonseed? he puts the north in Dany's pocket which is the key to controlling westeros
@Cool_beansmh
@Cool_beansmh 14 күн бұрын
@@penoyer79 i mean its not confirmed jon is even a targ and if he is he would be a bastard bc annulments werent allowed. Rhaegar already had a multiple children before jon and one was named Aegon already. D&D were just coming up with anything towards the end of the show to get to the ending they planned. Even Dany flying over the wall dont make sense since dragons always refused to before. A lot of plot holes unfortunately. Jon didnt even bond with the dragon, like he rode rhaegal but he had like 0 connection, same way he forgets about ghost.
@sands-bk2ig
@sands-bk2ig 14 күн бұрын
​@@penoyer79 It's about Jon Snow. And always has been. He is born out of ice and fire. George hasn't confirmed it being Dany at all. It's just Dany fans being salty over her ending. When in fact. It was very well known. That the Targaryens had madness running in their bloodline. Im guessing as side affect of all the incest. They practiced it more than any other house. From what I understood. And often the closest relations with siblings. Where as other houses stuck more to cousins.
@sands-bk2ig
@sands-bk2ig 14 күн бұрын
​​@@Cool_beansmh You haven't seen the show im guessing. It is literally confirmed him being half Targ in it 😂
@babykermie
@babykermie 14 күн бұрын
i believe it’s both dany and jon, personally. dany is fire and jon is ice. neither one of them completely fulfill the prophecy on their own, but together they do.
@11ibi
@11ibi 15 күн бұрын
There being multiple names that are the sane does make it confusing lol agree with Bryce on they got to sort out these names lol can’t wait for the next episode this was clearly the set up ep
@duggs4456
@duggs4456 14 күн бұрын
Any time I think about complaining about the names, I remind myself I'm English. We've had 8 King Henrys, 8 King Edwards, (both with several back to back), 6 King Georges and another George as a current Prince, 3 Charleses, back in the day we had Edmund followed by Eadred followed by Eadwig followed by Edgar followed by Edward, and then soon another Edmund. And those are just some of the ones that were actually King. Our Royal history is fucked for names.
@a.j.1819
@a.j.1819 7 күн бұрын
@@duggs4456Don’t know why people complain about this lol it’s been a real thing since the beginning of humans. We’ve always named people after great people over and over again. How many Muhammeds are there in the world? I believe it’s the most popular name
@myasuniverse1327
@myasuniverse1327 14 күн бұрын
So for info on King Jaehaerys and Prince Baelon; Jaehaerys was a good king but a shitty father, he fought in a rebellion and basically set up the roads of Westeros and brought stability and created the peace that Viserys continued. He became king incredibly young and followed his psycho uncle Maegor the Cruel who had usurped the throne. He married his Sister-Wife was who was known as "Good Queen Alysanne" as they were both beloved by the people and smallfolk. He rode the dragon, Vermithor, the bronze fury, which is the 2nd Biggest Targaryen dragon after Vhagar currently. Baelon was his second born son, he became heir after his older brother (Rhaenys's father) was killed. He was also hand of the King and was known as Baelon the Brave, he also rode Vhagar. However, for Ulf, the smallfolk man who claims to be his bastard son. It is really unknown, he obviously claims to be but with his age, this would mean Baelon cheated on his wife, Alyssa. Though, it was said in the book that Baelon was completely in love and devoted to his wife and refused to "bed" anyone even 2 years after her death. Obviously, the book can be inaccurate at times but there is such emphasis on their relationship, that I don't think he would cheat. Though I guess that's the thing about the show and the book, we can't really trust anyone or anything.
@itowilltube
@itowilltube 10 күн бұрын
how would he know his dad could be VizzyT or Damon they bragged about bedding ladies when they were teens. i It's not they like kept much records and why do you think it couldn't have been before Big J was married?
@VeritasMCMXCII
@VeritasMCMXCII 14 күн бұрын
You guys should watch “The Great” with Elle Fanning and Nicholas Hoult lol an interesting and satirical take on period dramas and court intrigue shows. Truuust me.
@austin_c_9080
@austin_c_9080 14 күн бұрын
It was confirmed by the director of this episode that three of the dragon eggs Rhaenyra sent with Rhaena are the three eggs that eventually end up with Dany.
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 14 күн бұрын
i wonder what the 4th egg is (i know the books, but if its a spoiler for the show dont reveal it)
@samuelreyes1689
@samuelreyes1689 14 күн бұрын
Jon being a Targaryen was horsesh*t. Even GRRM said himself, Dany is what GoT is about, her in essos with her dragons, and the white walkers beyond the wall of ice, is what he made a song of ice and fire to be.😅
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 14 күн бұрын
GRRM said it was horseshit? i never saw that. so, what's the deal with Jon Snow's lineage then? not totally surprised, the more distance we get from the show the more GRRM seems to reveal that - he never gave up the good on his story and just sort of steered Dean and Dan towards their own theories.
@gee2541
@gee2541 14 күн бұрын
How is a huge plot reveal and longstanding theory that came true “horseshit” 💀 GoT wasn’t just about Dany; there were a myriad of other characters people enjoyed.
@zawa7497
@zawa7497 13 күн бұрын
Wow you didn't just say got is all about Dany lok
@balloonedraccoon2503
@balloonedraccoon2503 14 күн бұрын
This is my favorite episode so far
@creolito9600
@creolito9600 14 күн бұрын
Daenerys was the prince(ss)that was promised
@a.j.1819
@a.j.1819 12 күн бұрын
Both of your statements were correct Rob. Aegon the Conqueror is the one who had the dream about the song of ice and fire, which is about the prince who was promised, who many fans believe to be Jon Snow (Aegon Targaryen)
@gee2541
@gee2541 14 күн бұрын
“that lady” and it’s Alys Rivers 😆 She becomes important later on…..👀
@hristovapostol
@hristovapostol 14 күн бұрын
7:51 you should know who it is from the dragon and the way it screams.
@mipmoep
@mipmoep 14 күн бұрын
lovee your reactions!
@audreymarie7938
@audreymarie7938 14 күн бұрын
The scene with young Rhaenyra spooked me. Not only was I not expecting to see that actress again, but because of the pure emotion on Daemons face. That look on Rhaenys' face in that one scene! I think within the next episode she is going to volunteer herself to go. That look felt like her making the decision because Rhaenyra was struggling to make that decision herself. Although Alicent's misunderstanding wouldn't have changed anything, that's what she used to justify her actions. Makes me wonder just how many times she told herself that to make herself feel better.
@DylanLovesBrenda
@DylanLovesBrenda 13 күн бұрын
Harrenhal is supposed to be haunted or maybe magic and cursed
@TinyMushroooms
@TinyMushroooms 13 күн бұрын
The woman you see tell Daemon he’s going to die is a healer named Alys Rivers who can see into the future (supposedly)
@PerfectlyImperfect93
@PerfectlyImperfect93 14 күн бұрын
Rhaenys is such a Queen ❤
@TheIrishKat
@TheIrishKat 14 күн бұрын
Sir Gwayne was in the first episode of s1, he fought daemon in the jousting tournament
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 14 күн бұрын
yup. played by a different actor.
@TheIrishKat
@TheIrishKat 12 күн бұрын
@penoyer79 yeah, he was played by the stuntman I believe bc they hadn't hired someone yet
@ManInBlack1988
@ManInBlack1988 14 күн бұрын
Rob repping team black! Hell yeah brother 🖤 🐲
@jasmineg_63
@jasmineg_63 7 күн бұрын
26:24 Aegon II , Aegon III, Aemond, Daemon, Vaemond, Rhaenys, Rhaena, Rhaenyra lmao
@mariabrito-go2dx
@mariabrito-go2dx 14 күн бұрын
Nop, the “prince” who was promised is daenerys (azor ahai)
@ptolover7
@ptolover7 13 күн бұрын
Yeah in Game of Thrones Jon's real name was Aegon Targaryen but I think there's almost a 0% chance that's what his real name turns out to be in the books. I'm pretty sure they mashed Jon's story up with another character who is also called Aegon and decided to try and tie it up with a bow by making that Jon's real name. I would be extremely surprised if it turns out that way in the books
@karinacazares19
@karinacazares19 9 күн бұрын
Danys eggs!! 😭 you guys missed them
@huney8cocoa
@huney8cocoa 14 күн бұрын
Jon Snow's Targaryen name was Aegon, but there was no way for anyone to have known what he would be named. Aegon the Conqueror's dream only told of "the prince who was promised", not the name of the prince
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 14 күн бұрын
Jon as Aegon thing was something the TV writers came up with. it's Dani not Jon.
@penguin50279
@penguin50279 14 күн бұрын
gwayne hightower was in season 1 episode 1 and she literally introduced him as her brother and yall still questioned who he was😂
@ace_syo
@ace_syo 14 күн бұрын
Well season 1 came out almost 2 years ago. It‘s been a long time and he had his helmet on. So, it’s understandable.
@penguin50279
@penguin50279 14 күн бұрын
@@ace_syo i know i’m just telling them we’ve seen him before and alicent in this episode tells criston he’s her brother and they still didn’t know.
@alitadelimon
@alitadelimon 14 күн бұрын
In viserys's mind, he was talking to Rhaenyra, not Alicent. He was answering to her... 24 hours later. Bracken and Blackwood are Tully's banners. Combined they have like a 40k army BUT they hate each other and they clame a different king/queen. Both sides want that army ofc... that's the problem
@michaelkantner6420
@michaelkantner6420 14 күн бұрын
Hey guys, I'm a new subscriber, and I noticed which series that you guys have watched and which movies that you have watched. If I may, can I interest you in watching the Penny Dreadful series, it has Josh Harnett, Timothy Dalton, and Eva Green, and it has ghosts, vampires, witches and werewolves. And if you haven't seen it yet, I HIGHLY recommend The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare, starring Henry Cavill and it is based on a true story about a group of soldiers who help with the invasion of Normandy.
@vjc25
@vjc25 14 күн бұрын
Off topic but do yall plan on watching Legend of Korra
@a.j.1819
@a.j.1819 12 күн бұрын
Who would recognise Rhaenyra? The common folk don’t really know what the royals look like anyway and she hasn’t been in Kings Landing for years. They have no reason to even look at a random Septa walking by
@anais6654
@anais6654 14 күн бұрын
can you put subtitles on? you miss half the things because you didnt heard
@gee2541
@gee2541 14 күн бұрын
I find it interesting how you hate Criston (who is admittedly an unlikable character) but call Daemon “my guy” when he’s done equally horrible things and even physically abused Rhaenyra. The Blacks definitely have their flaws as well.
@jasmineg_63
@jasmineg_63 7 күн бұрын
Aemonds biggest opp is Aegon lmao
@Daniella040
@Daniella040 14 күн бұрын
Could have been Jon, there are many who believe that Visarys talked about Jon as the prince that was promised.
@leeruss88
@leeruss88 14 күн бұрын
Viserys said "Aegon" when he was dying because he was talking about Aegon the Conqueror's dream -- the prophecy of "The Prince That Was Promised", which in the GoT show canon refers to Jon Snow being a Targaryen and uniting the realm in the fight against the army of the dead. However, in the books the real identity of the "Prince" from the prophecy has not been revealed yet.
@sdx9621
@sdx9621 14 күн бұрын
it’s highly likely it’s daenerys in asoiaf
@emanueldantas8289
@emanueldantas8289 13 күн бұрын
It’s just me or you guys also think is Rob similar to actor whos play Aegon?
@MaesterKamus
@MaesterKamus 14 күн бұрын
John Snow's Targaryen name would be Jaehaerys and not Aegon.
@nineteen96
@nineteen96 14 күн бұрын
Hey, could you guys watch 'Red Dog' please?
@ManInBlack1988
@ManInBlack1988 14 күн бұрын
Daemond’s dream was like Daenerys’…
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 14 күн бұрын
its ironic as Daemon always used to give his brother shit about his quaky dreams. now he's having the dreams!
@The-Gabs
@The-Gabs 14 күн бұрын
dude super random and take no offense to this but i see rob as aegon and bryce as aemond
@jasmineg_63
@jasmineg_63 7 күн бұрын
27:02 Jon Snow?? Girl bye
@blue---monday
@blue---monday 14 күн бұрын
i miss zuff :(
@bug5317
@bug5317 14 күн бұрын
I HATE Alicent. Let me sneek up in there. GRRRR. Rhaenyra is so amazing! With this series as a whole with HOD and GOT, it is SO male dominated that I am sure that Aegon would have been pushed on the thrown by the men, maybe through killing Rhaenyra so maybe we should be happy she didn't get the throne immediately. DAMN I love this show!
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 14 күн бұрын
that's the dichotomy in a nutshell. Alicent is a pawn and powerless to stop the machinations of the men around her... where as Rhaenyra rebels, resists, and pushes back against them as illustrated in this episode. Rhaenyra is what Alicent wishes she could be. this is why she has become so resentful and jealous of rhaenyra, but she masks it under the guise of "duty and sacrifice". Alicent was against usurping the thrown as her Father was plotting behind her back. it was only her misinterpreting her husbands final words that made her go along with it because she felt they were right in the end. but now the cat is out of the bag... Alicent realizes she was wrong and now they're going to war over a mistake - the blood is on her hands and we will see how she handles it
@gee2541
@gee2541 14 күн бұрын
The sept scene was definitely ridiculous and not needed at all. The writing also wasn’t impressive 💀
@therenegade916
@therenegade916 14 күн бұрын
The prophecy is about Jon. That Aegon Targaryen’s line would bring “The Prince That Was Promised”
@SsLA2313
@SsLA2313 14 күн бұрын
thts up for debate
@mariabrito-go2dx
@mariabrito-go2dx 14 күн бұрын
that’s literally a lie lol
@LaCheeserie
@LaCheeserie 14 күн бұрын
Rhaena has the dragon eggs and the dragon seeds (kidding I know the seeds are only the illegitimate ones.)
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 14 күн бұрын
i mean dragonseeds are literally dragon riders who are Valeryon/Targaryan bastards (Jon Snow is the prime example of a Dragon Seed)
@lalesskahernandez9903
@lalesskahernandez9903 14 күн бұрын
Estoy arta de q esta serie dicen q las mujeres no quieren guerra solo los hombres 🤷 q tiene de malo q las mujeres quieran guerra y defender lo suyo
@a1aska466
@a1aska466 14 күн бұрын
No Rob, you were right it was Ageon the conqueror who had the dream/prophecy about "the Prince that was promised" who would unite the realm (A song of ice and fire), and that prince is Jon Snow indeed cause his real father was Rhaegar Targaryen (Fire) and his mother was Lyanna Stark (Ice)
@smittyhoe9270
@smittyhoe9270 15 күн бұрын
criston & alicent are so annoying. i need them GONE. after everything the greens including alicent, has done to her, the deserve no mercy or compassion.
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 14 күн бұрын
well their fates are known... i won't spoil anything for you. be careful interacting in the comments. people do spoil stuff.
@Surfskyer
@Surfskyer 14 күн бұрын
U have so much shows, that U dont remember the facts/history.... its sad ... this channels becoming ordinary
@Deltadivaix
@Deltadivaix 12 күн бұрын
So are they only required to watch a select amount of shows? Even people in real life who aren't on KZfaq watch a lot of different shows and they get things and plots and characters confused or forgotten. They're just human.
@Surfskyer
@Surfskyer 11 күн бұрын
@@Deltadivaix I didn't ask u
@Deltadivaix
@Deltadivaix 11 күн бұрын
@Surfskyer whether you asked me for it or not, if you post on a public forum, should expect comments.
@xongaming4456
@xongaming4456 14 күн бұрын
You're actually right. The prince that was promised was Jon Snow.
@penoyer79
@penoyer79 14 күн бұрын
nope, it's dany. confirmed by GRRM. he was never going to let the TV show spoil is magnum opus
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