Continuing the conversation over on slug.com/Arielle

People call out Christianity ALL the time but never Islam

It’s so weird because when it’s Christianity it’s “yea you’re awful and clearly wrong and backwards” but when it’s Islam it’s “oh it’s just a different culture” but it’s so difficult because criticising islam puts you in a trap of being called “racist” and “imperialistic” because Islam is so much more deeply rooted into Middle Eastern culture that it’s difficult to distinguish the two as separate things

There are a lot of Christian homophobes, but the worst they’ll do is look at you weird or make a snide remark. I’ll take that over being thrown off a roof or stoned any day

I knew a former Muslim woman that told me her older brother was executed because he was ousted as being in a relationship with a man.

Jeff Goldblum just said what was on everyones mind.

There are many Gay friendly Christian churches, some with gay/lesbian ministers even. However, I have never heard of a gay friendly mosque.

I appreciate people actually talking about it. You can't solve anything without talking about it.

My cousin was stoned when he got caught holding hands with his boyfriend.. he is from brunei and he escaped to the Philippines which is more lgbtq friendly place.

I so over the hypocrisy of attacking Christianity and calling them homophobic but not Islam. I have had many Christians that have been wonderful to me and supportive of me. I have also had Muslim be nice and respectful to me as well. There are bad in all religions just like there are good. Great video Arielle

Anyone who screams Islamophobia has never been a non-muslim national in a Muslim country. Just saying. Also this is not to say that all Muslims are bad. It's just a statement on how ironic it is that people are quick to call out discrimination against Muslims in non-Muslim countries, but totally gloss over very very very real discrimination in Muslim countries.

It's such a weird alliance between lgbt sjws and Islam. I will never understand it. Like, throwing people off buildings is fine but misgendering or criticizing religious practices is a cancelable offence?

I'm glad people are finally speaking out about this. If Christians don't get the homophobia pass, Muslims shouldn't get it either.

I am a lesbian in my 30s who comes from a muslim family. I have to hide and pretend that my partner is a roommate, that our kids are just her kids, and that the reason I'm still not married to man is because I'm fundamentally against marriage. There are many kind, decent muslims but I have never encountered one that would treat me like a fellow human being if I came out.

Jeff Goldblum was 100% correct. The religion at a larger scale is medieval still. It went through NONE of the revolutions that Christianity went through after the Enlightenment era.

I've met a bunch of muslims throughout my life. I've recently started asking them (the 18-34 age group) how their parents would hypothetically react to them leaving the religion. Responses have ranged from "Well, my parents said they WOULDN'T kill me, but they would disown me" to "No, I couldn't do that. They wouldn't allow it."

"It's not every Muslim doing these bad things" 1. Thank you for conceding that homophobia is a bad thing 2. No one is claiming it's all because it doesn't have to be all. It just has to be a large enough portion to become an issue, which it is!

Thank you for this video! I'm watching this video while the world cup 2022 in Qatar is happening, it's depressing but as an Arab lesbian and an ex Muslim, I'm glad that the world is finally seeing the reality of the LGBT community in the Muslim world 💔💔

As an exmuslim from Qatar. I agree with him 100%! I hate people not allowing Islam to be criticized. If western society really learned the truth about Islam, they will be rejecting it instead of defending it. Fyi I don't know why slug is banned from Qatar :c

Arielle, you might remember me telling you about a gay man who was cyber-bullied by our progressive local LGBT cult for being scared of dating Muslims. This kind of shaming is just rapey. I am thankful for this video!

Until these draconian laws are challenged nothing will change.

This reminds me that their are Americans who claim to hate being American. I typically respond to them with telling them to "move to *insert homophobic country with few rights* and tell me if you still hate being American!" that tends to shut them up.

this comments section is going to be interesting lol

He makes a good point that it is infantilising to Muslims to assume they can’t handle having their beliefs discussed and criticised like anyone else

I’ve dated a gay Muslim. Knowing you’ll never be allowed to meet their parents is always an odd feeling for me

As an ex Muslim I thank you and would love to discuss this matter with you

In my country Morocco every city has a gay section (still illegal). That's where the Muslim aristocracy, clerics and those in power from N Africa and the Middle East go to hook up. Mostly with Europeans. Then they go back to their own countries and it's business as usual.

Isn't a phobia fear of something. Killing someone for their actions is hate. Whats that called?

Thank you for talking about this subject , I’m an ex Muslim lesbian woman who lived 27 years of my life in Saudi Arabia. I can’t even talk about the horror that women and LGBTQ community are going through over there. Hijab has always been forced on to women at least in some countries, and the left in USA are wearing it in some of their protests trying glorifying it and support it as it some kind of a culture acceptance !! How ignorant is that! Being against the most misogynistic homophobic Islamic laws is not islamophobic . There’s is no way around it .

This conversation needs to be had more often. I believe that this video paints a very realistic picture on how’s it like for LGBT people and for women to be brought up in Islamic countries. Ignoring the problem and never talking about it in fear of offending Muslims is not a good tactic and it does more harm to the minorities in these countries than just being “offensive “ encouraging the Islamic mentality not speaking against it is harmful to people in these groups

I would reccomend Islam apologists research the Quoran, Hadith and Sharia Law.

this video is gonna get censored. Muslims on KZfaq will mass-flag this. Happens to Apostate Prophet all the time.

I’m a Christian and I happen to have a gay daughter that I love so very much, I will never understand how Christian parents could disown their child because they’re gay.I will never understand gay people who say they support Islam. I pray one day that gay people in the Middle East will be free to live their lives without fear of being thrown off a building or stoned to death.

I truely don't understand why people call it ''racism'' islam is not a race, you can be any race and be muslim. And honestly thanks for speaking up, because the problem with homophobia in religion is BIG but everyone loves to just defend everything islam does

We gotta stop calling it phobia this and that. It’s just ignorance and hate. Not everything needs a specific label to know what it is. It’s not a fear, it’s intolerance.

I've pointed this out for years and was told I was being intolerant... but the same people are just fine calling out Christianity. Is it tolerance? Or is it fear?

Thank you so much for making this video! As an ex Muslim lesbian who is deeply (double) closeted out of fear of honour killing, this means a lot to me.

I actually started questioning Christianity for the same reasons as this dude started questioning his religion. I remember sitting in church listening to the preacher talk about how women should be submissive to their husbands and it just seemed a little bit wrong. It still took me a few years to get out and I'm still hiding a lot of stuff from my parents

Islamophobia doesn't exist on a mass scale.

It's also hugely misogynist.

I'm muslim lesbian girl, my parents are very religious.. I'm scared of them 😢

The only thing I disagree about with this video is that Islam is not a minority. It's the second most popular religion in the world, behind only Christianity and not by very much.

I'm so glad this conversation is happening. It makes me so frustrated to constantly hear people talking shit on Christianity - some really nasty stuff - yet they defend Islam.

This is the *EXACT* topic that the LGBT community *SHOULD BE* talking about.

I love that you have these difficult, yet necessary, conversations. And that they are ACTUAL conversations. Too many times, we heard "We need to have a conversation" every time a divisive issue comes up, yet it is never followed by an actual conversation. Rather, talking heads argue for a 5 minute segment, spewing talking points, and nothing of substance is learned. Kudos to you, Arielle!❤

People are afraid of islam thats why they can't call it out, hence Islamophobia is moot.

Thank you for addressing this!

I wish I could watch this video when I was a teenager. I was raised muslim but also had crushes on the same gender. First i hated myself and i was homophobic, fearing what allah would do to me if i went through this "wrong path". It took me a long time to accept that i am different and this religion doesnt suit me. I can lie to everyone but i cant lie to myself. I didnt want to be a hypocrite. I left Islam and never felt more free.

I have been saying it for years, but I get called a biggot or worse

Islamophobia should be called muslimphobia instead. Seperate the followers from religion. Religion is an idea and should be open to criticism

Hard to believe that more than 10% gave this video a thumbs down. What the hell is wrong with people?

I'm glad there are people like Arielle in this world that have the courage to keep their convictions and the strength to conversate about the controversial issues.

Wow, very impressed with the direction you've taken this channel in. This is such an important discussion and BALLSY AF of you to upload.

Thank you for this, Arielle. Eye-opening, and what a brave, admirable brother he is xxx

This is one of the most important videos I have ever seen and I am so thankful for it. Thank you Arielle.

Thank you Arielle. You never shy away from telling it as it is! I would love a video about the forced transitions on gay men in Iran. The state pays for them to not have gay men in their society. There was a tragic, heartbreaking incident in my country (Switzerland) last year in the picturesque Emmental, that gives the famous cheese its name: Pstiwan, a 17-year old Kurdish Muslim boy was almost killed by his own father, when he tried to cut his son’s throat in their family home for being gay. The boy, bleeding heavily, jumped out the window and ran to his neighbours who called emergency services. Pstiwan was flown to the hospital, where he had to be put in a coma so the Doctors could perform emergency surgery to save his life. His father almost cut his carotid artery, his trachea was injured. When you think about the fact that religion and state in most Muslim countries are very interwoven, how this religion’s cultural influence has consequences for gay people like Pstiwan - even after migrating to secular western democracies, there is no denying, that there is something wrong at the root of it all. Pstiwan decided to make his story public and was consequentially invited to several TV shows and KZfaq talks, most of them in Germany. What stunned me is, that he states the opinion, that from his perspective, Islam and homosexuality are clearly incompatible, and these superwoke TV hosts and debate participants just talk over him, always trying to emphasize the examples that show the «other truth», like that one mosque and Imam in Berlin that invite gay Muslims to prayer and what have you. I sat there and imagined what a teenager who almost died because his own FATHER cut his throat - all based on a stupid old book of partly insanely barbaric texts, must feel like when he gets told how super peaceful Islam is! 🤮 You can find numerous articles online about this. At first, his name was changed, but as he started appearing on TV, he began using his real name and has since come out as trans - voicing the wish to transition once he’s worked through the psychological trauma and after the screening doctors do here before getting on hormones (US take notes ... 😬). @pstiwi is his/her Twitter handle, if you want to follow the journey. The culture and tradition that are set in stone and lived/experienced by a very dominating majority 95%+ of Muslim societies are simply not compatible with being gay. It will take centuries to change that - if it is at all possible (example: German journalist Constantin Schreiber, clearly an open-minded liberal and fluent Arabic speaker wrote a book called The Mosque Report, detailing his visits to random German mosques and how shocked he was by the content of the Imam’s speeches in regard to living in the west, our culture, integration and core values of society). The political overcorrectness of politicians on the left, like our gay MP Angelo Barrile from the Social Democratic Party, refuse to address this because, it doesn’t support their political agenda. «hOmOpHoBia iS nOt a pRoBLeM iN oNLy OnE cULtUrE oR sPeCiFiC tO oNe» - agreed 100%. But the verbal and physical attacks which are not necessarily increasing in numbers but in severity are predominantly - and I’m talking in the realms of 90%+ - committed by young men of patriarchal migrant backgrounds and Muslims are clearly overrepresented while most attacks are directed at gay men and trans women. It will have to play out like the clan problem in Germany or the grooming gang epidemic in Britain (please watch Tommy Robinson’s Oxford Union Adress, it is a punch in the gut). The political climate in western nations is so explosive as the superwoke dictate the discourse through cancel culture to the point, where public figures especially in politics divert the issue, scared of losing their job and reputation until the problem is so obvious, so prevalent that you can’t deny it any more and we’re past the point of having the ability to react. Just an example: in Berlin, the district attorney had to change the law to seize 70 objects of real estate, that had been purchased with laundered money from one single family clan, active in organised crime with several thousand family members living in Germany. I am not an islamophobe - on the contrary! I have family in Tunisia who live a very progressive Islam but even there, homophobia causes problems. My Cousine just got divorced after being married for three years, because it turned out her husband was gay and lied about it. She says for her, him being gay is not the problem, there is an underground gay scene in Tunis and even in smaller urban centres like Sousse where you can live your sexuality if you’re careful. The problem is, that society and the laws are still homophobic enough, even in a westernised progressive Muslim country, that is governed democratically since the Jasmine Revolution, that the consequences lead to suffering for everyone. If you’re interested in these things, I really recommend the books by the gay English author Douglas Murray, an Oxford scholar who wrote my literary beacons of light in recent years «The strange Death of Europe» and the «Madness of Crowds». If you agree with Arielle’s content on Trans issues and other heavily politicised and omnipresent topics like the problem with Islam, they will be your read of the decade! Love you Arielle 💕

The contributions of gay people have changed the world for the better. Where would we be without Alan Turing? The art, music and literature.

I worked for a small family business that hired mostly people from within their culture (Arab) who originated from countries throughout the Middle East. I soon learned that the thing they all had in common, was that they were Christian, and had fled to Canada to escape persecution in their own countries. Turns out that a lot of them hid their Christian faith in their home countries, and had to leave when they were ousted as it became too dangerous. The stories they told were heart wrenching. One of them told me a story about how they saw their Christian neighbours being dragged out of their house in the middle of the night, mother, father, and 8 year old daughter. They were beaten in the street, and then doused with gasoline and lit on fire.

If i bring this up im immediately attacked and called islamophobic, it's very hard to even talk about this

Don’t forget that African countries are starting to pass laws against homosexuals

I am so very blessed that the Muslims in my family accept me. My sexuality, my tattoos, my choices in attire, all of it. It'd be very different if they hadn't come to the US, I'd think.

Great video! So glad you have the courage to discuss any topic.

Two muslim classmates of mine who dislike each other shaked each other's hands just because both of them were homophobic. Straight to our faces.

Thank you for having these conversations.

Thanks for showing the fun fact that one can't shout "racism" when someone is critiquing religion, because it's not logic 💚 Fun fact: I studied sociology and at one point, in a seminar about racism and the connection to xenophobia,we were given a test to see if we were "having Muslim phobia", and back then I thought it was weird, because I scored to suffer from "Muslim phobia", because I crossed "yes" that I do believe this religion was surpressive towards women and homosexuals. I felt suddenly "guilty" and "uncomfortable" because I was raised in a humanitarian family and suddenly I was put in a corner from left winged teachers that I am xenophobic and probably an unaware racist. This was 20 years ago and it kind of hit me how ridiculous it was back then already..

Great conversation! 🙌🏼💗

Here's something that people need to grasp. Islam is Homophobic. But some Muslims aren't Homophobic. Despite their religion some do understand and respect that some people are LGBT. The Quran also says not to judge people and treat them with respect.

Blimey you're brave. Just keep yourself safe after making these videos. It's admirable what you're doing xx

I was borned in an Islamic country...I was raised in a muslim family and I am queer and I'm telling you, you can NOT be muslim and also queer. Because if you are, like me, Islam doesn't believe you are a human anymore and no one in your community will NOT, EVER, accept you! It is awful... I have so many friends that are both homosexual and bisexual and also homophobe therefore they hate themselves and hate their sexuality and the people they love... I was in a relationship with a girl that loved me so much and hated it every single day because she didn't want to leave Islam behind! It's horible...for all of us... The death penalty is not even the worst of our problems because we can be careful in public and never kiss or hold hands...the worst part is never being able to come put to your family or be proud of your love and...yeah! It's awful

Abolish Christianity and Abolish Islam

I wish we could have these conversations all the time. We need to have differing opinions and be open to listen to differing opinions, that’s how learning happens. We don’t all have to agree with everyone, that’s what makes life interesting, living in a bubble of people that agree 100% of the time has to be really boring.

I am so glad and thankful, that I love in a country, where Islam is declawed.

I am a muslim. Gay stuff is not allowed, and has never been allowed. Due to how meticulously the scriptures are preserved, it will never be allowed either.

If the concept of “patriarchy“ is currently foundational in any religion/culture, past and present, it would be Islam.

Thank you for talking about this. I hate how it's ok to call out Christians for their beliefs, but no other religion can be called to the court. If it's wrong for 1 religion, it's wrong for all.

I’m so grateful that you called this issue out

I've been saying this for years! And if I may expand on it, (none LGBT included) even amongst atheists they always have out Christianity, but they never call out the religion of Islam because of "islamophobia". But also at the same secular and I think they also agree with that religion. Even though they try to say they don't but at the same not saying something seems like you condone it.

What a sweet and kind soul. Loved his thoughtful comments.

I love him! Jimmy, keep doing your great work!

Videos like this need to be made 👏🏼

When it comes down to it Christianity has gotten a bit of a secularization in a way That Islam hasn’t gotten.

I had no idea that people in the US had to hide this way. I'm so sorry for how people have suffered through this. I will offer more openness and friendship to people, incase they need someone to turn to in such dark times in their lives.

Now THIS is stunning and brave.

Arielle - I ADORE you and all of your guests!

Very impressed by Jimmy and what he is doing, great work!

I wish this video had a 'double thumbs up' button! I am a Christian who believes God LOVES homosexuals. I do not understand why the far left calls out christians for being homophobic while being silent about the extreme homophobia, and misogyny in Islam. Excellent video Arielle!

As an ex Muslim, I'm glad Arielle had the guts to bring this up. While many on the left and in the LGBTQ+ community continue to shy away from it.

I’m a deemed leftist but learning more from your videos. This is a very good video. I think it’s important to back away from hypocrisy and the double standard like you said. We need to stop picking sides about who gets a pass and who doesn’t and identify the issues everywhere as a whole

It's really hypocritical how liberals and leftists attack Christianity for 'homophobia' yet completely ignore the homophobia in Islam.

Even atheists have a hard time calling out the blatant sexism and homophobia of Islam!

This man is so eloquent and courageous. Thank you for having him on.

Thank you for covering this. Gods bless.

Great info in this video, thanks for sharing.

Thank you so much for bringing attention to this! Things are happening. Proud to be part of the exmuslim community.

I do security at a swingers club and on bisexual night you can't move for the number of Muslim men who come in. They tend to be gay men who were forced into an arranged marriage to save the family honour. The number increases every month. It's really funny when you ask to see the driving license to prove they are over 18 and they register as Mr. Smith. That said afterwards we have to call in the professional deep cleaners. By contrast we do have a small number of Hindu and Sikh bisexual men come in but they come in with their super supportive wives. They go into different rooms though.

I was talking about this to my friends today and they did not believe me!!! thank you for the info! I hope this video can make them see the truth...

Well yeah , I'm a Muslim and I'm saying it is .Christianity is also homophobic but at least we are honest

this hits harder today with the "queers for palestine" bulls*it....

As a Christian, I am VERY careful about criticizing other religions because I don’t like it when people trash mine. I do know there are kind, loving Muslims out there who will never hurt or bully a gay person. However, it bothers me how everyone hates Christians for disagreeing with homosexuality but nobody cares about Islam teaching the same thing. Everyone hated the Christian baker in the gay wedding case, but what if the baker was Muslim?

I agree with you but I hate the phrase "the left". People have varying opinions regardless of their political leanings