I don´t know how to feel about this?...

Dangit Red Shirt Jeff, I told you to stop commenting on the main account!

This is pretty rude, did not expect that.

Jeff, your cowlick is showing 😂

@@RB-us6tf I think this is a joke with the LTT Wan Show

Hahaha

might have missed a zero there matthias....

Define mess with.

I love your content Matthias!!

That is probably 10x more than most people :) But the real question is have you picked up the LTT driver yet?

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This country was built with those tools. We almost put them on our flag, but the maple leaf just took up too much space.

@@GnBst I like your flag. The maple leaf, combined with that red cross/SOS/weirwood color scheme, drives the point home quite well. 😁

LMAO i never even knew that squares/robertsons were just a canadian thing, can confirm they are nearly as popular as phillips up here. the only screw my dad kept in the garage growing up. they have a satisfying grip when you slot in the driver

Just don't stick it in a tray of highly salinated water with high voltage present...

You can rotate it to fit standard sized bits instead of the smaller ones

you are a legend

i you move it out of the way u can fit the standard longer bits.

@@lettherebegames8 Yeah but you can move each half individually... If you want to fit standard bits, just aligned them and if you want to fit short bits, misalign them.

Yeah its overpriced for sure, its not even good design. My $16 wiha 8 in 1 ratchet screwdriver from 2019 has better quality.

Yeah who knew! The little ninja star thing has not been a problem at all since I spun the bitholders.

@@JeffGeerling I literally flew off the couch, grabbed my screwdriver and twisted it. It blew my mind because I did the OCD bit dance too. This is lovely

I think you hit the nail on it's head on the closing though... It's more then just a tool, it's also piece of sponsorship to the LTT. If you buy it, you'll enable them. Sleep on that.

Enable them to do what exactly?

it would if it didn't rotate away by itself all the time

the little spinning bit wouldnt stop you using bigger bits. the holders are for that.

@@darrenfalconer3267 but i have the small bits which are meant for it...

not really. you can align or misalign bits by rotating and offsetting their clip assemblies making that ring completely redundant. im not sure its loose by design though.

@@kaimelis it's by design, Linus mentioned it was so you could offset them and not have them slide over but also align them and either run 6 large bits or a combination of sorts

I'm considering mixing in one or two 'long-term review' videos. They don't often perform as well since people aren't searching for 'the new shiny' anymore... but I find they have a lot more insights and would be a _lot_ more useful for someone considering putting money down on a product.

As well as a gift for your subscribers, @@JeffGeerling ! 👍

@@JeffGeerling To me the long term reviews are way more important. I wish there was more of them and easier ways to find them.

That was my biggest surprise in this experience. I was prejudiced against the thing from the outset, but I liked it so much I've been using it for a lot of projects around the house!

@@JeffGeerling Agreed, coworker had one in his kit, let me use it and immediately became a fan. Bought 2 oh them & I use it all the time. I believe someone said the rumor is that they are going to EOL the product ./sad

@@Nasarias No way! Better start buying up batteries.

I HATE that screwdriver. I use my much cheaper Skil with a switch way more.

@@reginalb124 The typical use case for this kind of tool(or at least the origin, pre 1990) is the electrician building house installation circuit cabinets (although nowadays most of them are "click 'n go") or the electronics technician working in production, building control cabinets with thousands of screw connections a day. The manufacturers of these industrial control cabinet terminals usually offer a suitable tool that is designed for the specially standardized requirements for torque, occupational safety and service life. Such a De-Walt (or similar) device is a toy in comparison. But if it suits you, then use it? It is a free world (mostly). Everyone should use what they want. If you need such a tool for the very very very very exhausting job of an IT-Engineer, then there might also be a cordless tool on the market to help old ladies across the street too, don't you think? (Sorry for that blatant joke on your cost, @dinon35 ... hehehe, forgive me, please!)

Yup. Linus talked about this. Jeff you should try to add that torque bit and replace the two bits you dont use. See if it fits!

Exactly... I just leave a thumbs on your comment instead of making the same one myself :)

ideally the screwdriver should have come with standard length bits, ironic that it didn't since it comes from a supposed tech channel and proprietary parts are one the greatest complaints with pc's

@Opus To be fair, PC assembly is relatively low torque, and in relatively tight spaces, so the mini bits make some sense, particularly when you want an assortment of philips, flat, and torx sizes for the usual jobs.

@@rhekman How often do you need anything aside from a #2 and a #1 phillips for pc building though? Torque is definitely not required on a pc, so a fat handle is more of a hindrance, than a help. The mini bits don't really have an advantage aside from getting the tip closer to the magnet (nice trick), and allowing more bits to be stored in this design... and controlling the bit sales of course. Outside of pc building, the excess bits may find more use, but I generally ignore my multi bit screwdrivers, since like most people I tend to mainly be using a limited array of bits, unfortunately that tends to be #2 phillips here in Australia, where torx is still far too uncommon. When working with timber I generally use an impact driver instead. A multi bit screwdrivers main use is probably sitting in the glove box of a car, just in case.

a quality electric screwdriver is always a big surprise, since theres a LOT of terrible ones out there. i would definitely recommend giving the dewalt a try. even discounting my own love of the thing, the number of other commenters raving about it would make me curious about it.

@@MJP_985 Dewalt is trash Milwaukee is the way to go. Had a XR sawzall break the first month only cutting 2x4s.

@@sungukyun2608 that first sentence is the largest cope / denial I've seen, what's stops me from just saying the same thing about mil?

I'm still waiting for the post office to send me mine.... 🤔

Fairly similar collection of stuff here, since work on fairly disparate types of things regularly. Some of them were a bit niche or not too necessary, like hex drivers for work on my guitar / bass, sure could use hex keys but the drivers are just so much quicker to both find and use. Or a really old Britool fixed driver with about 14" shaft and a really weird philips head that is nominally a ph1, but is precise enough to also do ph0, was great for the era of very recessed screws like the old ghettoblasters / boomboxes Same for those extensible magnets, and I've also a fairly strong mini-horseshoe like magnet on a string that is pretty great for when a tiny screw falls off the table. I also salvage the magnets out of dead hdd's to use for screw sorting on a keyboard / laptop teardown :)

But a Megapro is half the price of LTT's. I've had mine for 5 years and, guess what, I'm in the UK and had to order it from Amazon US where it says it is 'made in USA', despite what JG says about its availability in the States.

@@paulyeomans1065 that’s great! Happy you have the tool you need to get the job done.

LTT jumped on the rebrand to make money, not to be helpful. The pretence of a tech channel has gained enough interest that it is now just a very successful marketing platform, $80 rgb fidget spinners will probably be next, the fanboys will swoon for them, and the dodgy channels will love making money from 'reviewing' them.

@@-opus I think that about their apparel. They make content to sell shirts. Whereas I feel a tool is utility and I can appreciate that more, I guess.

@@kodywillnauer9422 Have to agree with you there, screwdrivers are handy things; people do need clothes though, just ideally not plastic sweatshop ones. The screwdriver is probably decent enough, although there are obvious design flaws, it is overpriced, and it is not suited to its supposed market. I am also wondering why so many people decided they needed a screwdriver all of a sudden, just because some youtuber put his name on it. People like labels, brands really like people who like labels.

The flashlight has come in handy a few times!

They work great, problem is they're just not very common at all in the US. Torx and Phillips are far and away the most common types of screws you'll see in any application here, the only time I've ever seen Robertson screws in the US was in a deck, and it seemed like somebody had actually bought them by mistake when putting that deck together, because 90% of the screws were Torx.

@@htr5372 I don’t care

I thought I did! Sorry about that, added it now: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kKqAmLaI37udfHk.html

@@JeffGeerling Your good, amazing video for long term use. Please keep up the great work. I was able to google it and find but just wanted to mention it incase anyone else was interested.

What’s funnier is that he has a gamers nexus desk pad

I love the Lidl crap aisle, but it can suck you into some stupid impulse purchases. I was once really tempted to get a laser distance measurer just because it looked cool lol

Park tool or something else?

8 quid is reasonable. 70 dollars for this item isn't. I'm sure there's a joke in here somewhere involving Linus and getting screwed! 🤣🤣🤣

You shouldn't get it if you don't also want to support LTT because you enjoy what they do... Instead of buying an overpriced bad quality t-shirt you maybe wear once, you buy an overpriced tool, that you most likely use many times, for years and years to come (and I am not talking about LTT t-shirts, that afaik is good quality, but generic creator merch) The reason there isn't such a thing as a "unlimited lifetime warranty" anymore is because there is too many people abusing it in bad faith, ruining it for the ones that would actually benefit from it! I mean... I heard a story about some guy who found a 30 year old bent and rusty destroyed screwdriver, and went and got a new one! No company can survive with "customers" like that - it's completely laughable tbh! But that is just how humans work, when you do something good for them, its only matter of time before they see it as a right, and start abusing it, and no matter if you want to or not, you have to stop it at that point!

@@Krydolph Absolutely incorrect. There are still several manufacturers of quality products with lifetime warranties; they are not cheap in any sense of the word. When you make cheap, low quality shit that you _know_ will not last, you don't give it any warranty, because you know it'll break or wear out quickly.

@@jfbeam completely missed my point.

Speaking to the lifetime warranty; I work at a Canadian Tire and we once had an older guy come in with a broken Canadian Tire branded measuring tape that had to be at least 20-30 years old. We replaced it with a Mastercraft as that is now our 'house' brand, but we had to explain to him that the warranty is now only 3 years and you need to keep your receipt. They definitely don't have the same confidence in their manufacturing that they used to.

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Most of the complaints from the video creator stem from him using the screwdriver the way it wasn't intended to be used. It's excellent at what it was designed for. If you're gonna use it for heavy duty work and bashing things into a wall, you shouldn't complain that it's not that good or that the plastic thingy doesn't separate the bits properly. Of course moving parts will move when you use the thing like a damn hammer -__-

Does that make it Cat5 rated?

​@@JeffGeerling Maybe separator should be circle - shape or smt similar?

Only if you do it in the right colourcode for termination.

@@JeffGeerling Not sure, but maybe you could give it 10gb/s bandwidth doing that.

@@Zabuzek The reason why it's not a circle is that you're _supposed_ to be able to move it out of the way, so that you can store "full-length" or double-sided bits! It's kind of a feature.

a long #2 phillips is perfectly suited to the majority of pc work and is unlikely to create fatigue unless you have arthritis

Sadly despite their being better alternatives, phillips is still extremely common around the world.

A driver designed for PC builders lacking a Phillips head would be very strange.

Haha I don't have pets but I have gone to their dog shows at the actual 'Purina Farms' place. They're sponsoring our new MLS team.

@@JeffGeerling Didn't they kill a bunch of dogs with their food a while back, or was that a different company?

That’s because you’re a professional and not a hobbyist.

@@Bob_Smith19 And sure he got some great tools that will last till after he is gone, not much is made to last anymore.

@@htr5372 Exactly. The ltt driver simply does not deliver $80+ in performance. $50 shipped and I'd buy one, because I have an unhealthy obsession with ratcheting screwdrivers.

@@htr5372 Yeah, I was tempted by the snap on for a while but the williams is amazing at half the price or less. The PB swiss I do drool over at times though lol That's a one day when I have some extra tool funds to burn purchase. Or when toollady has another sale...

@@htr5372 Will do. What has me interested in the PB swiss is the lack of driver wobble and the strong magnet. The fact that the wera RA 16 locks bits in is one of the main things I love about that one. Also, I feel like we may have exchanged messages before either on here or reddit before lol

I feel exactly the same; the ltt driver is "ok" but way overpriced. Same goes for my williams too. It's been a trooper over the years.

A lot of people don’t know that Williams is owned by Snap On

Honestly I'd take it over phillips most of the time, but they're just so rare down here. It's like switching from imperial to metric... it has to happen widely, or it won't happen at all.

I have no interest in adding another bit I have to keep around but I think we need to do away with Phillips and straight screws and use Torx for everything. I can’t think of a single time I have stripped a torx even using my Milwaukee impact driver or drill. Phillips might as well be made out of cheese half the time and straight is terrible to use because it doesn’t like to stay in the screw

...AND my ADHD kicks in anytime the screwdriver is in my hand.... I can turn and ratchet in one hand only, I walk around my house just turning and hearing the clicking ratching non stop... I'll find myself doing this for hours at times.... My wife wants to murder me when I do this tho...

I have not dropped mine at all... I wonder if it'll break if I do...

Oopsie! You're correct. I guess I just loved the word 'Plastic' so much I threw it in there twice!

There are a few others I didn't cover (mostly because I didn't follow their social media that closely! I only have so many hours in a day...)-over on Twitter a couple others have mentioned they got one.

True-though some types of rubber hold up much better (e.g. the good tools I have with rubber overmolds that are holding up 10-20 years later... versus the Harbor Freight tools that are basically sticky glue now).

yeah i think your right.

@@htr5372 100,000 units sold is a "tiny manufacturer". That's a very puny amount of units for a tool manufacturer.

Found the Canadian! 😆

Indeed. Philips was designed for early, unclutched power drivers. It's an anachronism.

@@htr5372 That's marketing speak. We don't go by marketing speak. Remember who the main tester was: Linus Sebastian. Remember who was the main person dictating the design direction and characteristics: Linus Sebastian. Like the backpack, he's the main driver of the feature set, use case, and design. They didn't give this to a dozen carpenters, electricians, plumbers, mechanics in all sorts of fields, etc. to use and evaluate in their field of work. It was primarily Linus giving feedback, and maybe others in his various enterprises. And guess what field most of those people are in: IT content and IT Support. Let's compare the LTT screwdriver to the automotive one people are claiming the LTT screwdriver is a clone of. As both an IT professional and a shade tree mechanic, I can tell you that the LTT screwdriver's shaft is too short to reach some of the places you have to unscrew a #$%#$%#$% screw. (I think I have automotive PTSD.) Hell, I've had to use pretty long extensions (or chain many extensions together) to get a socket wrench to reach. I doubt the LTT screwdriver would reach some of the screws on the housing that secures the air filter on my 2011 Jetta TDI, let alone the $#%#$% screws on hose clamps. (Looking at you, fucking Honda.) There are equally annoying places the LTT screwdriver won't work on the 98 Saturn, 96 Accord, 81 VW Rabbit PU, and the 86 Silverado I've owned at various points in my life. And forget working in the engine compartment. One drop of grease, antifreeze, or motor oil on the handle and I wouldn't be able to turn anything with the LTT driver. That's why part of the automotive driver was rubber. If you notice, what Jeff and his dad do are primarily the same things Linus does, so that's why the screwdriver generally works for them. But when Jeff deviated from the IT projects to other things, it became more of a hassle to use. (Also, why doesn't Jeff use screw in wall anchors instead of those cheap, flimsy pound-in anchors from the 1950s?) Jeff's assessment is spot on. If you're doing electronic or IT work, it's perfect. If you're doing anything else, there are better tools designed for those jobs. Hell, the fact they're not insulated and rated for high voltage and/or current work (like fuse panels) clearly shows they're not for everyone. So, when Linus says they're "the perfect multi-bit screwdriver for everyone", that's clearly just marketing speak.

I mentioned that in my earlier review/comparison (this one was more of a "update to the review")

@@JeffGeerling Ahh good to know, I now need to go watch the original!