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Daniel Owen

Daniel Owen

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Chapters:
0:00 The gaming world is turning upside down
0:30 The simplest and fastest way to sell your GPU- Jawa.gg
1:40 is the 5090 actually the 5080? (speculation on conflicting leaks)
6:39 Intel Battlemage GPUs on hold? Celestial delayed too? (leak)
8:47 Intel next gen CPUs cold be clocked lower than 14900k (leak)
9:40 Intel Default Settings even lower than expected
12:09 Is Phoenix Nirvana a peak at what the 8900 XTX cooler could have been?
13:12 Microsoft closes Arkane Austin, Hi-Fi Rush developer, and more
15:55 (RANT) - AAA games are unsustainable, execs doing opposite of what they should be
20:20 Hades 2 hits Early Access (amazing games don't need to be expensive to make!)
21:00 Sony listened! Helldivers 2 reviews soar
22:58 No Rest for the Wicked System Requirements lowered
24:11 Witcher 3 REDkit mod editor launches May 21st
24:51 Nintendo Switch 2 release date
25:45 Playstation 5 Pro hardware specs update

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@danielowentech
@danielowentech Ай бұрын
Jawa- the simplest and fastest way to sell your GPU: jawa.link/OwenGPUMay24 Use code OWEN10 for $10 off your first purchase!
@Glebanakonda921
@Glebanakonda921 Ай бұрын
Small note about Helldivers 2 - as far as i understand, main backlash started after Sony banned some accounts that used vpn to create PSN acc in unsupported countries
@dianaalyssa8726
@dianaalyssa8726 Ай бұрын
Huge W on Helldivers 2 for consumers.
@The_Funguseater
@The_Funguseater Ай бұрын
I get "Pink Eye" every afternoon... a little after 4PM
@Battleneter
@Battleneter Ай бұрын
The term "leaks" means factual information that leaked out of an organization. None of this is leaks, they are guesses from the usual suspects, if you go back 5 years and audit kopite7kimki guesses, he does not do half as well as most people claim.
@edwinjansen7791
@edwinjansen7791 Ай бұрын
Is JAWA also a good Idea if you live in the Netherlands? How much is the shipping? I assume if I have to ship my 4060 in for a 4070 super out, I would have to pay allot of shipping costs. I am also considering waiting on te 50 series after watching your vidoes. Thanks!
@mrmaxin53
@mrmaxin53 Ай бұрын
make a 5080 and call it a 5090 - sell it at 5090 prices - this is on brand
@eldritchtoilets210
@eldritchtoilets210 Ай бұрын
yep that's basically what they attempted with the 4080 12GB last time. Along with the significant price increase of much of the product stack between 30 and 40 series. And this time AMD won't even release higher end GPUs.... Next gen isn't looking great on the price-to-perf aspect if this pattern continues.
@greateminemfan
@greateminemfan Ай бұрын
@@eldritchtoilets210 And today anybody went with a 1000¨$ 4070ti and thinks he has a great value gpu. Many clowns who pay Nvidia whatever they ask for haha
@arvinsim
@arvinsim Ай бұрын
@@eldritchtoilets210 Sigh, seems that I will just have to buy discounted 4xxx once the 5xxx comes out
@unpacker9521
@unpacker9521 Ай бұрын
Calling it now: gb 203 5090, gb 203 cut down 5080, gb 202 reserved for ai and gb 202 cut down will be 5090 ti at $3000
@chapstickbomber
@chapstickbomber Ай бұрын
5080 using the GB102 die heavily cut down would let them ratchet their segmentation another step
@ChristopherOrmond
@ChristopherOrmond Ай бұрын
They don't sell good games to make gamers happy! They sell high priced games to make investors happy.
@ryzen89
@ryzen89 Ай бұрын
And they make poorly optimized games, to make GPU manufacturer's richer, and us poorer.
@dex6316
@dex6316 Ай бұрын
@@ryzen89no that’s not it. Optimizing a game properly takes resources in terms of time and money. Investors want a game launched 6 months before it could even be ready and development costs cut to the bone, so optimization gets cut there. Nvidia and AMD aren’t happy about this because if the games aren’t better due to poor optimization then gamers won’t buy the newer games that sell the cards, and will instead either stick with their older cards or buy used and play older games. Nvidia isn’t too unhappy because they are busy making billions in AI, and AMD is content with their console sales which get properly optimized games that gamers want to buy.
@MagiofAsura
@MagiofAsura Ай бұрын
​@@dex6316corporations are the plague of the quality in gaming. At least Larian did it smart and sold 30% to tencent with preferred stock so tencent can't vote on shit.
@arenzricodexd4409
@arenzricodexd4409 Ай бұрын
@@ryzen89 nah gamer is not innocent in this matter. years ago i see that whatever the case gamer will still going to complain one way or another. when the game is very well optimized from the get go gamer will start accusing developer with stuff like console parity by not taking advantage raw performance provided by high end pc hardware to give better graphic fidelity. hence the game can run very well even on mid range hardware. but when game developer genuinely try to make game their more beautiful and end up being more demanding they will accuse game developer to be lazy with optimization hence the game run like a crap. i think that's why sometimes developer just give their middle finger to PC gamer haha.
@PhazerTech
@PhazerTech Ай бұрын
Same logic applies in every industry today unfortunately.
@FlyingShoe
@FlyingShoe Ай бұрын
When is a joke officially a dad joke? When it's apparent.
@tonyrios9668
@tonyrios9668 Ай бұрын
Oof.
@worthywizard
@worthywizard Ай бұрын
See yourself out
@tofu_golem
@tofu_golem Ай бұрын
There was a time when news about the next generation of graphics cards got me really excited, but now that I know the next generation will be as overpriced as the current generation, I'm just going to continue to not upgrade my graphics cards regardless of what characteristics the next generation of graphics cards has or doesn't have. I don't care what framerates those cards can produce if they are prohibitively expensive. I don't care what nifty ray tracing features they enable if they are prohibitively expensive. I don't care how much or how little power they consume if they are prohibitively expensive. I don't care if the power connector will or will not set my computer on fire if the cards are prohibitively expensive. Building and upgrading computers, and playing games are hobbies that just aren't fun anymore. Games these days are just vehicles for sleazy monetization, the graphics cards are overpriced, and motherboard manufacturers have decided that they don't feel like honoring RMAs anymore, even though motherboards are up to five times what they used to cost.
@ishaanmurarka9082
@ishaanmurarka9082 Ай бұрын
Relate to everything you said there. Gaming for 20 years, but lost excitement for new GPUs or even new AAA games. Most modern games are boring and aren't worth playing. The modern games are pretty but not fun to play. Prettier graphics and RT are like putting make up on a dead body. It's pointless. And they expect us to overpay for this crap? 😔
@AndrewThePoet
@AndrewThePoet Ай бұрын
​​@@ishaanmurarka9082 While I completely agree, the past 2 years has been amazing for gaming though! If ye only follow Betheseda and the sort, I agree. But you also have Fromsoftware and Nintendo for example! There a plenty of amazing games that are modern yet fun. Elden Ring, Tears of The Kingdom, FFVII Rebirth, Armored Core VI and so many more. Surely triple AAA games aren't as good anymore but none can deny the past 2 years has been marvelous.
@QuiteLunacy
@QuiteLunacy Ай бұрын
Seeing Tango go down is crushing. The Evil Within is one of my favorite series and Hi-Fi- Rush was a masterpiece. Still shocked that was a shadow release. I hate Platinum and Microsoft.
@stangamer1151
@stangamer1151 Ай бұрын
Yeah. Both The Evil Within games were amazing. What a pity they have not made the 3rd one. I guess they were not that popular and sales volume was not big enough, as it often happens with great games.
@visitante-pc5zc
@visitante-pc5zc Ай бұрын
Me too, bro. Me too
@Riyozsu
@Riyozsu Ай бұрын
I was always looking forward for the evil within 3 to continue the story. :(
@stranger01422
@stranger01422 Ай бұрын
I know a lot of people didn't like evil within 2. But it was so fun & i really loved both of them specially evil within 2. Sad to see Tango die like this.
@arenzricodexd4409
@arenzricodexd4409 Ай бұрын
@@stangamer1151 Shinji mikami already left the company for quite sometime so i doubt there is going to be a third one?
@alistairblaire6001
@alistairblaire6001 Ай бұрын
The xx90 cards might as well be Lamborghinis at this point. No doubt the price will be absurd. I’ll be here with my Honda Accord 7800XT.
@lolmao500
@lolmao500 Ай бұрын
Its really disgusting that Arkane gets shut down, especially when everyone working there told the managers again and again that Redfall would suck and would be a failure but they didnt listen... so the studio gets shut down while the managers who made the studio fail keep their job. Classic. From testing ive seen, the new intel power baseline in linux uses MORE power and gives less performance than extreme setting. This was tested on a 14900k on a Asus Prime Z790P Wifi.
@Drunkbobnopantss
@Drunkbobnopantss Ай бұрын
man... arkane was a great studio, tango too absolutely loved prey, and evil within 1 and 2 publishers are destroying good talent
@untrainedprofessionals2374
@untrainedprofessionals2374 Ай бұрын
The workers will always pay the price for the decisions of management. I have never heard of mass manager sackings.
@fuzzylumpkins6034
@fuzzylumpkins6034 Ай бұрын
and the management is hired to be responsible and quality control and keep time lines. What management used to be hired for is no longer the case. Now they are the ones that get to play the blame game instead of being blamed. It is the same in clinical situations, the nurses know everything about the patients and the doctors know nothing but the doctors blame nurses and tech when something goes wrong while malpractice insurance insures the doctor will practice and fail again while the nurses get sacked or disciplined.
@ryanaxelrod6140
@ryanaxelrod6140 Ай бұрын
70% of the people who worked on their previous title had already left the studio prior to redfalls release. It was a shell of it's former self
@vathone5896
@vathone5896 Ай бұрын
I don't know what it is about Daniel's channel that just gives me really good tech vibes. I love your work and channel, keep it up.
@megadeth8592
@megadeth8592 Ай бұрын
piracy is gonna continue to grow with the way game companies are behaving
@emma6648
@emma6648 Ай бұрын
I’m sure there is ways they can prevent piracy
@WolfChen
@WolfChen Ай бұрын
Denuvo is the biggest problem for piracy, only EMPRESS can hack it, its really hard to do lol, so the new AAA games aren't that easy to pirate anymore.
@GewelReal
@GewelReal Ай бұрын
​@@emma6648not always
@arenzricodexd4409
@arenzricodexd4409 Ай бұрын
@@emma6648 something like gamepass? but realistically those that want to pirate will pirate. the game can be on something like 90% discount they will still not going to buy it.
@ImTriumph
@ImTriumph Ай бұрын
@@WolfChen the more they use denuvo the more people are gonna be able to crack it supply and demand
@patsk8872
@patsk8872 Ай бұрын
The 4090 uses a 384-bit bus. There's no way the 5090 would use a 256-bit bus.
@zdspider6778
@zdspider6778 Ай бұрын
That's what I said about the 70-series. That the 4070 is not gonna have 192-bit. When ALL 70-class sold in the last 12 YEARS or so (since the GTX 670) all had 256-bit. 😠 Nvidia done fucked up with the 40 series. I think it's safe to consider the 50 series yet another skip generation.
@markterek6232
@markterek6232 Ай бұрын
@@zdspider6778 From now you can skip all gens sir.nGreedia do like this from the 4000 series until only 1 people buy their cards.If no1 buy them they need to do the oldschool stuff when a halo card costs 700$.
@eldritchtoilets210
@eldritchtoilets210 Ай бұрын
@@zdspider6778 Man, they tried to sell us the "4070ti" with its measly 192bit bus as a "4080 12GB", as a sad attempt to justify the drastic price increase from last gen. Ive come to expect the worst from Nvidia when it comes to naming and pricing at this point as well lol
@Adri9570
@Adri9570 Ай бұрын
possible solution: 2080 and 2080ti as the top GPU names: 256bit for a 5080 that is the flagship 512bit for a 5080ti that is the steroids top of the line GPU so people gets less interested in the just 384bit 24GB 4090 discounted.
@bartekowca666
@bartekowca666 Ай бұрын
Nvidia: hold my GPU
@chris_afxon
@chris_afxon Ай бұрын
In my opinion leaks are probably done by companies to see what customers think about the products they want to deliver
@xxmoomh556
@xxmoomh556 Ай бұрын
If the card's performance 5090 increases ‏ Only by percentage20% ‏ ‏On a card 4090 I will definitely refrain from buying it and will stick with the 4090 card, and in the end it is still strong Therefore, when the 5090 is released, I will first watch on KZfaq the research and tests on it, and I will watch the percentage of performance increase first, so that I know if it is worth buying or not, then on this basis I will decide because I do not want to throw my money into something that is not worth it. I believe that everyone should do this so that we know whether Nvidia is deceiving us or being honest when it said the increase rate would be 70%. We will not be fools
@tonep3168
@tonep3168 Ай бұрын
I doubt the 5090 will have a 512bit bus.
@lolmao500
@lolmao500 Ай бұрын
Yeah no way. Nvidia doesnt care enough to do that, they'll spend the RD on AI gpus instead.
@divertiti
@divertiti Ай бұрын
@@lolmao500 It has nothing to do with Nvidia "caring", 512bit bus doesn't make sense. The cost to make a 512bit bus does not offer performance returns against an optimized 384bit bus. Nvidia's strategy is to brute force compute but optimize data transport.
@georgedaswani9155
@georgedaswani9155 Ай бұрын
​@@divertiti AMD was building cards in the past with 512bit busses like the R9 290x, NVIDIA did it as well with the GTX 280. Even with such wide bus width's, those cards were cheaper for consumers to buy when compared to the 4090 series. Given how small the PCB are for the cards nowadays, pretty sure they can easily make it happen. A 512 bit bus on the 5090 should bump it's 4K performance considerably.
@faus2417
@faus2417 Ай бұрын
yeah keep in mind that they are using gddr7 modules with faster speeds, from what we have seen from the past years Nvidia will use that to their advantage and lower the bus width keeping the bandwidth similar to the 40 series
@Chris-ih4hj
@Chris-ih4hj Ай бұрын
Then boom it has and I got it and u got none
@cosmicusstardust3300
@cosmicusstardust3300 Ай бұрын
last time I was excited for a Nvidia GPU launch was Turing, now I shudder at these new launches thinking to my self what is the next bs thing they'll pull to screw over gamers
@dnakatomiuk
@dnakatomiuk Ай бұрын
They cut Tango Gameworks what that take over seems to be a total cluster fuck at this point. MS clearly have done the "The EA" buy it all out etc and then when a great IP comes get it out and crush the studio and keeo the IP in the basement Mangers keep their jobs when fro the costs of 1 manger you could keep what maybe 2 devs on for another studio. This is what happened at Bungie and probably will later this year
@wwk279
@wwk279 Ай бұрын
RTX 5090 16GB 1300$ would be nightmare 😭
@adlibconstitution1609
@adlibconstitution1609 Ай бұрын
5090 should come with 24gb like the 4090 and 3090
@kerotomas1
@kerotomas1 Ай бұрын
1300? They never gonna sell a 90 series card below 1600
@signe_stilett
@signe_stilett Ай бұрын
Yeah, at 1300$ it'd be a good deal compared to 4080 / 4080tie. Ain't happening
@Astralify
@Astralify Ай бұрын
@@signe_stilett No GPU over 1k is a "good deal".
@wwk279
@wwk279 Ай бұрын
@@kerotomas1 if they decide to name Gb 203 as rtx 5090 arcoding to this video said
@ronny332
@ronny332 Ай бұрын
0:01 dancing on the ceiling ... 🕺🎼
@techwandoUS
@techwandoUS Ай бұрын
You can't sell 5090s with Hades 2 😬. I agree though, I wish they would put more energy into smaller titles. They are far more enjoyable.
@isanvicente1974
@isanvicente1974 Ай бұрын
from teacher to teacher, you are a magnificent teacher you explain technology very very well , normal that you have lot of subscribers... at the same time i worked as an engineer i was teacher at university for some years, it is very important to explain things at plain level at the same level of the students... being a pc gamer for more than 30 years i love this channel...
@DodgyTodger
@DodgyTodger Ай бұрын
12:09. You spelled peek wrong Dan, back to school with ya 😂
@joeallen7781
@joeallen7781 Ай бұрын
Trying to School Peter Dan must be a nightmare, the rascal just shrinkin and flying all over the classroom.
@THU31
@THU31 Ай бұрын
He's a math teacher, not an English teacher. 😉
@M3e36-99
@M3e36-99 Ай бұрын
21:57 Tip to publishers. Put a hardware engineer in charge. Not a software engineer. I'm a software engineer with a hardware background. Software engineers have a way of thinking that you can always fix it later. Recompiling is cheap. Hardware engineers know that "rework" costs more at the end than getting it right the first time. Replacing a part that got chopped off or filling back a hole that got drilled wrong is expensive.
@nufrequency84
@nufrequency84 Ай бұрын
Breakout hit that they were "giving away" on subscription service, what could go wrong...
@christophermullins7163
@christophermullins7163 Ай бұрын
I would absolutely love some D.O. CPU Reviews. You know you wanna do it teacher!
@danpatrick7176
@danpatrick7176 Ай бұрын
Great episode. Thanks Daniel
@MobileDecay
@MobileDecay Ай бұрын
Mr. Owen I didn't do my homework. How much money to make it go away? 🥺
@noer0205
@noer0205 Ай бұрын
Good one 😂
@HanSolo__
@HanSolo__ Ай бұрын
Golden Pig Upgrade Package - Who else? 😆
@marufulislam4311
@marufulislam4311 Ай бұрын
Don't want another 60 class 8 gb card from nivida next year
@Antipiperosdeclony
@Antipiperosdeclony Ай бұрын
128 bits 😂
@gametime4316
@gametime4316 Ай бұрын
looking at the SM cout ( if they are anywhere near true) i would guess that : 5090 is a bit cut down from GB 202 with 512bit bus 5080 is way more cut down from GB202 with 384bit bus only 96 SM for 5080 looks too little uplift (and the rumor say is stronger than 4090 ) so the GB203 could be 5070 back with 256bit finally after many years. the problem with that logic ? the card will be very very strong, even the 5070... and it will happen in the generation that NV need it the least because AMD don't have high end RDNA4. maybe option 2: all the above will happen in the "super" model refresh when NV will need to face RDNA5.
@JasonChen927
@JasonChen927 Ай бұрын
My overclocked i5-12400 has been running at 5.2 GHz all-core (R23 single core score ~2020) with PL1=120W, PL2=150W (105W/135W in summer) for 2 years and never has issues. I guess that's a big win compared to 14900K situation...
@THU31
@THU31 Ай бұрын
BCLK overclocking?
@GewelReal
@GewelReal Ай бұрын
New node is always clocked lower than older one Only through refinements the clocks rise
@789uio6y
@789uio6y Ай бұрын
It's the same 4nm node. Everyone that says that because the uplift from 3090 to 4090 was 70% so expect this uplift now, is delusional cause this uplift from 3090 to 4090 was because the node shrinked by half. Now the node is the same. Don't expect massive uplift, do you forgot 10 series to 20 series? Also 1080ti was GDDR5X and 2080ti was GDDR6 and still the uplift was only 31% according to techpowerup. Here also we have new memory, but same node, so expect small improvement.
@GewelReal
@GewelReal Ай бұрын
@@789uio6y I'm referring to new Intel chips
@THU31
@THU31 Ай бұрын
Not really true. Depends on the node and the architecture. There have been multiple instances where clocks went up significantly on a new node (Pascal, Ada Lovelace). In the past they used to do die shrinks on the same architecture, and that always allowed for higher clocks too.
@GewelReal
@GewelReal Ай бұрын
@@THU31 Tell that to Intel
@RighteousBruce
@RighteousBruce Ай бұрын
4:30 Mini Daniel next to Micro Daniel
@offspringfan89
@offspringfan89 Ай бұрын
Hope Intel keeps their discrete graphics division and that it grows so Nvidia has some competition, because AMD has completely checked out on GPU market.
@QuentinStephens
@QuentinStephens Ай бұрын
I do hope those Battlemage rumours are not true.
@mraltoid19
@mraltoid19 Ай бұрын
So, if one sees an RX-6800 for $320 on NewEgg, should that be purchased, or will the RX-9600-XT (I think AMD will skip Radeon 8000-series for the cards names, so the Ryzen and Radeon line-ups match up) at $300 be better? Or if a 7900GRE is found for $480, would that be a better deal than the RX-9700-XT for $550 ? 5:26 - nVidia has done this before. GTX-x80 chips were always the x10 or x00 dies, then the GTX-680 came out an it was based on a GM104 Die, the decendant of the GT104 or the GTX460. So nVidia made the successor of the GTX460, the GTX680. The GTX680 performed MUCH better than the GTX580 and Radeon 5870 at the time, so it seemed justified. Maybe this new RTX-5090, that's really an RTX-5080, which is ACTUALLY an RTX-5070-Ti may offer the performance to justify itself.
@ShaneH5150
@ShaneH5150 Ай бұрын
Saw this beautiful and intriguing thumbnail and had to watch
@xSoulEateer
@xSoulEateer Ай бұрын
Your dad jokes are so funny 😂. More please 🙏
@dogface313
@dogface313 Ай бұрын
Another great video. Thank you
@nerdedkyle3515
@nerdedkyle3515 Ай бұрын
I could see Nvidia doing what u said and using the other dye for a 5090ti. I have tested no rest for the wicked and it is night and day difference when it comes to the performance issues way way better. My 3080 at 1440p was chugging down to 30 to 45 fps and now it very rarely drops below 60
@FATBOY_.
@FATBOY_. Ай бұрын
I'm also pissed that we won't be getting any new Dishonored, Prey and Evil Within games. It's time to fire Todd Howard as well.
@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065
@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065 Ай бұрын
They didn't close arkane leon
@mrshinobigaming8447
@mrshinobigaming8447 Ай бұрын
I was waiting for evil within 3 dev just don't know what to dead space 4,pop5,metal gear rising 2
@m4ur1r4g3
@m4ur1r4g3 Ай бұрын
They still own those IP's it doesn't mean they won't make them, next arkane game is blade. Arkane austin made prey and redfall, 2 games that weren't very profitable. Tango closing is sad but I thought the main guy who did evil within left a while ago no?
@97alexk
@97alexk Ай бұрын
@@m4ur1r4g3 Currently playing Prey. Really great game! Hope the talent of those devs are put into good use.
@stevensmith6445
@stevensmith6445 Ай бұрын
I only ever made it through dishonored 1 + 2. ZzzZzzZz the rest.
@Fate025
@Fate025 Ай бұрын
Really agree with Daniel with how developers should be focusing on smaller titles with less sunk cost. And giving the studios more creative freedom. The success of smaller games like palworld, helldivers 2, should have been a indicator of the shift in PC gaming "meta"
@spladam3845
@spladam3845 Ай бұрын
NVIDIA is well into the binning process by now, and will have an idea of what dhip bins are going to what class.
@Osprey850
@Osprey850 Ай бұрын
Thanks for all of the bad news, Daniel. 👍
@xxmoomh556
@xxmoomh556 Ай бұрын
If the card's performance 5090 increases ‏ Only by percentage20% ‏ ‏On a card 4090 I will definitely refrain from buying it and will stick with the 4090 card, and in the end it is still strong Therefore, when the 5090 is released, I will first watch on KZfaq the research and tests on it, and I will watch the percentage of performance increase first, so that I know if it is worth buying or not, then on this basis I will decide because I do not want to throw my money into something that is not worth it. I believe that everyone should do this so that we know whether Nvidia is deceiving us or being honest when it said the increase rate would be 70%. We will not be fools
@kevinerbs2778
@kevinerbs2778 Ай бұрын
@@xxmoomh556 no sign on increase in R.O.P's currently so that's in spec. 70% increase does that mean without "D.L.S.S Performance & frame generation" cause Ada was claimed to be 4x faster than Ampere which is only when all those things are in use.
@BlackJesus8463
@BlackJesus8463 Ай бұрын
I'd like to see them try.
@Alonne1
@Alonne1 Ай бұрын
PL2 at 188W, that is around what my i7 13700k pulls with an undervolt of -0.100v at full load
@nadtz
@nadtz Ай бұрын
MS seeming as bad as EA with buying up then closing studios.
@f3rns
@f3rns Ай бұрын
Loving the dad jokes.
@TheCgOrion
@TheCgOrion Ай бұрын
Nvidia has rolled tiers down their chip line up several times already, so it's possible. We'll see. I'm not expecting it to happen. People put way too much stock in clock speed, and TFLOPS for that matter, but any day of the week a 2Ghz Core 2 Duo was better than a 3Ghz Pentium D. It only matters inside the same architecture, and even then, it doesn't scale the same across architectures. It should be celebrated when a new architecture can surpass an old architecture, while being at a lower clock speed.
@friedzombie4
@friedzombie4 Ай бұрын
yeah it's rumored that Square is following in MSFTs footsteps due to sales of FF7 Rebirth being slightly underwhelming. Apparently 2M units sold is "underwhelming" now. 🙄
@olivur_1459
@olivur_1459 Ай бұрын
That's nothing to be honest with you. These companies spend a lot of time and money on their next projects, and if their current games ain't selling well, then it's gonna put a big dent into their upcoming ones. These days if a game doesn't manage to hit 10M units sold, then it's considered average or even weak. 2M is a joke in 2024.
@Antipiperosdeclony
@Antipiperosdeclony Ай бұрын
​@olivur_1459 if it was on PC maybe will be In 5 millions
@Dolvey
@Dolvey Ай бұрын
Man your neck must hurt frum lugging that big brain around all the time. I really enjoy your content and perspectives!
@rangersmith4652
@rangersmith4652 Ай бұрын
Possibility -- Studio execs see the risk in creating very expensive-to-make, AAA, hard-to-run, photo-realistic games, but they think it's worth the risk because that's where the really big potential profits lie. This is even more enticing to them with better and better frame generation and upscaling trickery because more gamers can play the "big" games with the hardware they have and will buy them because FOMO: More players = more profits. So they shift resources to such "blockbuster" projects and poo-poo anything that they think has no chance to be the next Tomb Raider or GTA. It's all about about profits and shareholder returns.
@relucentsandman6447
@relucentsandman6447 Ай бұрын
Does anyone know how to read the new Intel model names yet? It's still all just gibberish to me
@noer0205
@noer0205 Ай бұрын
You mean the; Ultra Core Core core Ultra Oh mega Ultra some more Core Core not an i7 Core Ultra Ultra? How could you not love this new and not at all dumb naming scheme? (Sarcasm possible)
@kidmarcus_
@kidmarcus_ Ай бұрын
One of the only new xbox exclusives that people talked about and they close the studio lmao. good job microsoft
@Velocifero
@Velocifero Ай бұрын
That's kinda the funny thing (in a sad way), you see all these "influencers" saying how great the game is and it should be model for what kind off games get made but then you look at xbox achievement stats and you see that barely anyone played it (not even 25% of players beat the FIRST boss).
@gobravo123
@gobravo123 Ай бұрын
Intel negligent (i9 CPUs) could lead to a worldwide lawsuit.
@stennan
@stennan Ай бұрын
Should... it should lead to lawsuits for falsly advertising TDP and what the specifications are. I mean can the I9 boost to its stated max 6,1GHZ with Intel default PL2 at 188W?
@sid7337
@sid7337 Ай бұрын
AAA game companies focus only on milking their fan base rather than creating a game with memorable experience. Small indie games focus solely on the game and the experience it provides. Its more of an passionate project for them with creative freedom. Ofc not all indie games are like that and not all AAA games are like that either. Games that i really like are a mix of both like manor lord, bannerlord, cyberpunk 2077, witcher 3, anno 1800, last train home, no man's sky.
@MechAdv
@MechAdv Ай бұрын
The last projections I remember seeing said that the 5090 was going to be 50 to 70% faster than the 49, and it was going to retail for $2000 MSRP. That sounds about right to me, and everything about the lower spec cards is probably just hearsay at this point considering how Nvidia doesn’t roll out their mid range cards until the following year, Q2.
@ZaberfangX
@ZaberfangX Ай бұрын
Other part too with all the handheld Microsoft still can't make a controller friendly OS. They'll not small not to put out anything to help push their own stuff.
@eugkra33
@eugkra33 Ай бұрын
I believe the GB203 is 96 SMs, so I just can't see that, with a 10% clock bump being faster than a 4090. In path tracing workloads it could match, it but with a 20% SM increase over the 4080 Super (assuming it's even 100% intact when in reality it'll probably 10% disabled), and a 10% clock bump, it'll be 10% behind a 4090, and 20-30%% ahead of a 4080 SUPER. There are hardly going to be IPC increases per SM this upcoming generation to raster. It's a die shrink with a minor clock increase and RT and ML improvements.
@xxmoomh556
@xxmoomh556 Ай бұрын
If the card's performance 5090 increases ‏ Only by percentage20% ‏ ‏On a card 4090 I will definitely refrain from buying it and will stick with the 4090 card, and in the end it is still strong Therefore, when the 5090 is released, I will first watch on KZfaq the research and tests on it, and I will watch the percentage of performance increase first, so that I know if it is worth buying or not, then on this basis I will decide because I do not want to throw my money into something that is not worth it. I believe that everyone should do this so that we know whether Nvidia is deceiving us or being honest when it said the increase rate would be 70%. We will not be fools
@ReKonstructor
@ReKonstructor Ай бұрын
@@xxmoomh556 You will buy what you get, like a good boy. Or you can be a brokie and get the cheap garbage that AMD fanboys shill.
@xxmoomh556
@xxmoomh556 Ай бұрын
@@ReKonstructor Nvidia considers you garbage when they make you pay a lot for slightly better performance Under the pretext that there is no competitor NVIDIA must understand that we always want double performance. This is its duty and this is what we deserve Between one generation and the next Because the price is high, we have the right to the appropriate performance, just as they have the right to the appropriate price. If they do not forgive us for the price, we do not forgive them for the performance They have rights and we have rights They must always fulfill their promises
@cadenh
@cadenh Ай бұрын
keep up with the good content 👍
@BastyTHz
@BastyTHz Ай бұрын
where did GB204 and AD105 go ?
@Antipiperosdeclony
@Antipiperosdeclony Ай бұрын
AI
@laszlozsurka8991
@laszlozsurka8991 Ай бұрын
Or maybe they are launching the 5080 first because the 5090 will be an MCM GPU with two 5080s. Same as the GTX 690 GTX 680 launched Mar 22nd, 2012 GTX 690 launched May 3rd, 2012 I can totally see NVIDIA going with that route
@PCgamingbenchmarktime
@PCgamingbenchmarktime Ай бұрын
Highly doubt 5090 won't be gb202 lol. This is nvidia, they like being dominant. Don't forget that rdna5 will be out during the 50 series lifespan so they have to counter for that too. What I think nvidia is doing with the 5080 is making a card that has less of a jump so they can keep costs down and still keep good margins. Hence why it looks heavily cut down from the 5090. They know $1200 was too much and didn't sell well. So I'm thinking a 5080 with 16gb vram with raster around or slightly better then the 4090 ( so around a 30% increase over the 4080 ) but with the improvements they've surely made to ray tracing I'd expect at least 20% better in ray tracing compared to the 4090. So it's not as much of a jump besides in ray tracing, I think it could do well at $999. Even better if it was $899. They're not going to make the mistake of putting an 80 series out above $1000 again. At least not this generation lol
@danielthomastanner
@danielthomastanner Ай бұрын
There's no such thing as a terrible dad joke 😂
@argcades
@argcades Ай бұрын
The 4060 generational leap was... Minus... how much? 🤣
@789uio6y
@789uio6y Ай бұрын
It was 18% uplift vs 3060, 3060 was only 16% uplift from 2060(actually a worse uplift than 3060 vs 4060), just look at techpowerup. Only in your wrong mind 4060 isn't uplift, lols!😂 Also the Vram? Lols, with vram mindset 3060ti that is 26% faster than 3060 according to thechpowerup is actually slower than 3060, cause have only 8gb vram(same vram as 4060, 3060ti and 4060 perform nearly the same, 3060ti is only 8% faster than 4060 according to techpowerup).
@Ralipsi
@Ralipsi Ай бұрын
203 = 5090... That makes sense.
@zdspider6778
@zdspider6778 Ай бұрын
You don't think they'll do it? Nvidia named a 60-class as "4070" and sold it for 80-class money. 😐 The "4060Ti" should have been called "4050". The "4060" should have been called "4040" but 404 doesn't exist meaning it would have been a meme card.
@Ralipsi
@Ralipsi Ай бұрын
@@zdspider6778 I said it makes sense. Why do you presume otherwise from me?
@xxmoomh556
@xxmoomh556 Ай бұрын
If the card's performance 5090 increases ‏ Only by percentage20% ‏ ‏On a card 4090 I will definitely refrain from buying it and will stick with the 4090 card, and in the end it is still strong Therefore, when the 5090 is released, I will first watch on KZfaq the research and tests on it, and I will watch the percentage of performance increase first, so that I know if it is worth buying or not, then on this basis I will decide because I do not want to throw my money into something that is not worth it. I believe that everyone should do this so that we know whether Nvidia is deceiving us or being honest when it said the increase rate would be 70%. We will not be fools
@789uio6y
@789uio6y Ай бұрын
​@@zdspider6778 4070 wasn't at all 60 class. 3060 wasn't like 2080, actually it was more like 2060 super lol! 4070 is like 3080, it can't be 60 class. Idiot. Actually your all beloved 3060 is only 16% faster than 2060, and 4060 actually 18% faster than 3060(according to thechpowerup). And Dont begin with vram nonsense, by this logic, the 3060ti that is 28% faster than 3060 according to techpowerup, is actually slower than 3060 cause have 8gb vram(the same as 4060), and actually 4060 is only 8% slower than 3060ti(according to techpowerup).
@0x8badbeef
@0x8badbeef Ай бұрын
I am prepared to not see an Nvidia 50 series at the time everyone is expecting because Nvidia declared they are no longer a graphics company. A reason why the 4090 is 60% faster than the 3090 is the 4090 has 60% more CUDA cores. What this mean is even with the more advanced 4090 process-node and increased clock speed only brute force quantity of cores can improve performance. But more interestingly is the 4090 has 2.7x more transistors than the 3090. (The advance-node benefit is likely why the 4090 is not a 945 watt GPU but instead a 450 watt. The 3090 is 350 watts, times 2.7 is 945 watts.) Those extra transistors must be for the frame-generation feature. That is a lot of silicon for the few games that are using this implementation. Future implementations are likely to be more generic and not hardware specific like AMD where they use the generic asynchronous compute (but only for those GPU's with sufficient size). That is where I would use those transistors. But that's if the investment in silicon continue with GPU's not NPU's. This year the hammer dropped for OLED monitors. Since then no other type of monitor seem relevant. I'm waiting for the hammer to drop for AI. When that happens advancements in GPU's are dubious.
@dianaalyssa8726
@dianaalyssa8726 Ай бұрын
Switch 2 it really is about time, at least there is a by date for the launch.
@jedadiahtucker2132
@jedadiahtucker2132 Ай бұрын
what would worrie me is if they did that with the gb203 then made the 202 a "titan" again or drop it even more and only match a 4090. thats the problem with one company being dominate, they can kinda do what ever they want.
@789uio6y
@789uio6y Ай бұрын
Monopoly is great. Hope Intel and Nvidia will become monopoly again together like was between 2011 to 2017(since Ryzen only Nvidia is monopoly over AMD, where in CPUs actually AMD is better or at least competitive). to beat that shit AMD.
@darkuit585
@darkuit585 Ай бұрын
Nice! When the 5090 comes out, the 4090 will drop its price, which means the 3090 will be cheaper than ever and I can finally afford a 780ti
@789uio6y
@789uio6y Ай бұрын
Isn't 7800 is a AMD card?
@CaptnYestrday
@CaptnYestrday Ай бұрын
Regarding the GB 202 vs 203, these rumor discrepancies happen weeks after AMD all but confirmed they're pulling out of the high-end space for the next round. It could be that the 202 was planned for the 5090, but is now going to AI only. Even if the 5090 uses GB 202, there's no incentive for them not to disable half the die or something stupid like that....
@xxmoomh556
@xxmoomh556 Ай бұрын
If the card's performance 5090 increases ‏ Only by percentage20% ‏ ‏On a card 4090 I will definitely refrain from buying it and will stick with the 4090 card, and in the end it is still strong Therefore, when the 5090 is released, I will first watch on KZfaq the research and tests on it, and I will watch the percentage of performance increase first, so that I know if it is worth buying or not, then on this basis I will decide because I do not want to throw my money into something that is not worth it. I believe that everyone should do this so that we know whether Nvidia is deceiving us or being honest when it said the increase rate would be 70%. We will not be fools
@adriankoch964
@adriankoch964 Ай бұрын
For NVIDIA calling GB203 a 5090, in their eyes it only would have to about as fast as a 4090. And this might include apples to oranges comparisons with 5000 series getting exclusive FrameGen 2.0 that makes 4 fake frames for every real frame usinging much lower resolution intermedxate real frames as guidance keyframes to create the fake frames from.
@justindressler5992
@justindressler5992 Ай бұрын
I'm starting to think the 5000 series is a going to be alot more expensive. NVidia is putting alot into data centre AI. I think they are only going to be small batches of consumer GPU's created. Also next gen wafer and production is extremely low by reports so it will likely be the worst paper release yet.
@The_Funguseater
@The_Funguseater Ай бұрын
Maybe they can all get jobs at Slavic Magic
@qubes8728
@qubes8728 Ай бұрын
I’ve read a couple of statements from amd saying they aren’t going to offer high end variants and focus efforts mid to low. Whether they were being truthful we shall find out soon enough.
@cybernd6426
@cybernd6426 Ай бұрын
One good thing about Microsoft going more on AAA games, smaller companies have a better chance of getting people to play their game
@annamaria-pv1fw
@annamaria-pv1fw Ай бұрын
thx
@2528drevas
@2528drevas Ай бұрын
Who didn't know when Microsoft acquired Bethesda that this was going to happen?
@GemayelDaniel
@GemayelDaniel Ай бұрын
you have to keep in mind that there is no 4090 Ti while there was a 3090 TI which was another 16% more powerful than 3090
@Averagedude-mi3fl
@Averagedude-mi3fl Ай бұрын
Talking about AAA games, make things with replay value. Case in point look at the new manor lords game. That’s a lot of fun. Imagine when they can add more to it. I actually purchased the other day a game from about 1995. Anyone remember Lords of theof Realm 2? Even 30 years later, it’s still challenging and has replay value. Why not make games like that and add content as you go?
@outsidein3206
@outsidein3206 Ай бұрын
You can expect developer lay offs and higher end for longer roll out of nvdia 5000 80 and 90 Moreover 7600X 3D when?
@downrangefuture6493
@downrangefuture6493 Ай бұрын
16:45 But that doesn’t make big money for shareholders. See, you’re looking at the wrong metric when it comes to mega companies. They don’t care about your enjoyment of a product, they care about the angle of the profit margin line in the short term.
@Bav92
@Bav92 Ай бұрын
The older I get (32 now) the more I just want AAA games that are 20-30 hours long and no more than that. Hogwarts legacy took me 4 months to complete. I play several games at once to be fair, but when I have time to really sit down and focus on a story or RPG it’s really only a few hours per week.
@goldenheartOh
@goldenheartOh Ай бұрын
Per WEEK??? You lucky dog! I get that per month & I still feel like I'm shirking responsibilities.
@biomagic8959
@biomagic8959 Ай бұрын
makes sense for nvida to launch 5080 and push all the top die into AI cards
@Tyrelguitarist
@Tyrelguitarist Ай бұрын
Now battlemage?! What?! I thought we were getting decent performance for fair prices lololol. Didn't the battlemage just get shipped for tests and what-not recently???
@merlingt1
@merlingt1 Ай бұрын
I agree with you. Most AAA games have been shit. Microsoft is just doing what it’s best at extinguishing talent.
@devonmoreau
@devonmoreau Ай бұрын
i think your analysis about 5080 vs 5090 could very well be true ❤
@paleion0
@paleion0 Ай бұрын
I can see Nvidia using GB203 for both the 5080 and 5090 while claiming they can do more with less in conjunction with using DLSS 4.
@goldenheartOh
@goldenheartOh Ай бұрын
Strange. I'm subsribed but I didnt get a YT notification Daniel made a new video. It was in my main yt page but not in Notifications.
@alpha007org
@alpha007org Ай бұрын
It just hit me, and have to comment. What if GB202 is 512-bit bus on Dual Die configuration only? Nvidia will not give us gamers more VRAM, because then you could use consumer GPUs to run LLMs. 256 bit bus can run 8 modules (32 bit each). GDDR6 has 2GB per chip, while GDDR7 will have 2GB and 3GB per chip modules. But, GRRD7 is not yet ready. So what if they release top die with 256 bit bus, GDDR6(X) and it will have 16GB VRAM. This is the only GPU for gamers this year. They could call it 5090 or 5080. Next year, when GDDR7 will become available, can get 24GB on 256 bit bus. And they call this refresh versions their TI line. So we get: 5080 256 bit 16 GB GRRD6(X) 5070 256 bit 16 GB 5060 192 bit 12 GB ---refresh--- GDDR7 TI 5090 Ti 256 bit 24 GB GDDR7 5080 Ti 256 bit 24 GB 5070 Ti 192 bit 18 GB Thoughts?
@jamesparadise7616
@jamesparadise7616 Ай бұрын
Love the videos
@PyrotechnicMailman
@PyrotechnicMailman Ай бұрын
DANIELCEPTION HAHAHA
@m4ur1r4g3
@m4ur1r4g3 Ай бұрын
I think moving away from their big titles was very bad for square, they released so much trash which only burned money. Let's hope for more quality remakes and mainline titles now.
@drago939393
@drago939393 Ай бұрын
I'd prefer the 5080 to be the 256bit and an actual 5080 TI as 384bit. The 5090 can then be the 512bit card. Alternatively, they can bring back rhe TI version for the XX90.
@xxmoomh556
@xxmoomh556 Ай бұрын
If the card's performance 5090 increases ‏ Only by percentage20% ‏ ‏On a card 4090 I will definitely refrain from buying it and will stick with the 4090 card, and in the end it is still strong Therefore, when the 5090 is released, I will first watch on KZfaq the research and tests on it, and I will watch the percentage of performance increase first, so that I know if it is worth buying or not, then on this basis I will decide because I do not want to throw my money into something that is not worth it. I believe that everyone should do this so that we know whether Nvidia is deceiving us or being honest when it said the increase rate would be 70%. We will not be fools
@thomaslayman9487
@thomaslayman9487 Ай бұрын
if gb203 is the top end silicon of the 50 series, i'm never even considering buying an nvidia gpu ever again ever.
@fujinmage8201
@fujinmage8201 Ай бұрын
i hope nvidia does not nerf the 5060 like they nerfed the 4060
@reynold99991
@reynold99991 Ай бұрын
Nvidia: "best I can do is a 5030 and rename it 5060 with 8GB VRAM." Stop dreaming man 🤣
@stennan
@stennan Ай бұрын
@@reynold99991 and the last 0.5 GB is ddr4 from our left over bin. Take it or leave it!
@stangamer1151
@stangamer1151 Ай бұрын
It all depends on how 8600 (XT) will look like. If it will have 128 bit bus and 8GB, then 5060 will also offer the same specs.
@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065
@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065 Ай бұрын
They will because they suck
@reynold99991
@reynold99991 Ай бұрын
@@stangamer1151 amd follows nvidia. it's not the other way around 😕
@sigmachud9092
@sigmachud9092 Ай бұрын
ah yes what we really need is more indie roguelites and less AAA games. the problem couldn't be that the AAA games we do get are shit, or that the subscription model isn't sustainable.
@mikeklanin6108
@mikeklanin6108 Ай бұрын
Arkane Austin only developed Prey (back in 2017) and godawful Redfall - and from what I recall, the problem with Redfall was with the studio and lack of supervision from Bethesda. I think they just lost Xbox trust after that. And Tango was probably doomed after Shinji Mikami left.
@genericyoutubeaccount579
@genericyoutubeaccount579 Ай бұрын
With all the tech layoffs, these guys are going to have to learn to weld and install elevators.
@gon720
@gon720 Ай бұрын
more reliable income for sure
@OOTheBlueAir
@OOTheBlueAir Ай бұрын
are they moving the glaopost once again to earn more>>>>>> now a 5090 is really a 5080?>
@nipa5961
@nipa5961 Ай бұрын
50 series seems to become just another disappointment. Let's hope these rumored specs aren't true.
@freestalkerdotfr6391
@freestalkerdotfr6391 Ай бұрын
Yep 256 bits 5080's bus is the nonsense... Even if it is 20 GB or so, it's a bad thing. You couldn't get a bandwidth as good as a well tailored one. I hope NVidia will not do this and will not sell it at +$1000.
@wwk279
@wwk279 Ай бұрын
@@freestalkerdotfr6391 the 30 series rtx 3080 has much higher bandwidth than entire 40 series except rtx 4090
@freestalkerdotfr6391
@freestalkerdotfr6391 Ай бұрын
@@wwk279 Kinda sad to make the technology lower as it should. That's why IDK if I'll buy a GPU from NVidia one day. Even with AMD I'm not that impatient to do so as for AI it would be harder to make things working.
@789uio6y
@789uio6y Ай бұрын
​​@@wwk279 Bus isn't at all that important now! Only cache is important on Nvidia new technologies and new architectures. By your logic we still would rocking the gtx 280 with 512 bit bus. The bus on 3080 isn't important, it still 55% slower than 4080 and 60% slower than 4080 super. Lols!!! And that's not even when including DLSS and frame generation. Also 3080 a lot less officient then 4080 and 4080 super. Actually the all 3000 series was very inofficiant.
@stamphy1003
@stamphy1003 Ай бұрын
I guess they use the good yields on GB202 on AI cards and use ~80% GB202 chips to start with a 5080 fo gamers.
@BlackJesus8463
@BlackJesus8463 Ай бұрын
No. They don't use gaming chips for AI.
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