Same sentiments, I've seen crime shows where the mom or the parent takes the blame to give their child a chance to thrive. What more for a kid with such a promising life.

I think charlie (the son) hired his friend to buy the gun and commit the murder. He seems sketchy.

I agree and very well said!😊

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@@macdaddyalexisagreed. Why the hell didn’t they make that friend testify?

There have been other cases very similar. Some involved kids much younger. Some had a sympathetic jury or DA. Had Jim Tan and his mom been upfront and had the mom not waited 4 days to call 9-11, he may have gotten off lightly. Jim was arrested two years later and convicted on a gun charge related to the incident. He got 20 years in prison.

Nonsense, you don’t know exactly what happened in that house

@@tristan583 Yes, you're right! No one knows exactly what happened in that house or the other house. In the comments, we're just trying to figure it out. For some reason, most people like to play detective. I think that's what the comment section is for.

I feel sorry for the son. I feel the mother should have left the husband and never put her son in that situation.

@@candiceihuoma6093 Yes, I completely agree with you! But it might be that in Chinese culture, where I think the wife is often oppressed, it's not so easy for her to leave her husband. This situation is so sad.

selfish

😂 typical Asian behavior. Good at math . Not good at critical thinking analysis.

Very SELFISH 😮

It’s obvious Charlie’s mom didn’t want to be bothered with filing for divorce or a restraining order. She probably didn’t want to risk her comfortable economic status. For all we know, she could have been manipulating her son into wanting to defend her at any cost. When she should have taken legal action to get out of that marriage. It’s so obvious she wanted her husband dead and recruited her son to carry it out or cover for her.

I disagree in this case, that she was selfish.........not in this case, imo.

Internalized misogyny.

Asian women bone density

They have been using that line at least 100 years.

I was thinking the same thing!!!

​@@IuItimthat doesn't make sense..

Thanks for the update.

Admission doesn't mean much people falsely confess all the time.

@@TheFakeyCakeMaker He must of felt guilty to have confessed after the judge exonerated him.

You must not be versed in the reality of domestic abuse and men with money and power! The authorities rarely help!!! RARELY!!!! The reality of the system is very scary.

lol, the police left a business card after she called 911 begging. Great help 👍

if she had been as strong & decent as u, she could have gotten off because she was a victim of abuse! what she did to her son was *horrible!* 😰

@@76marji I am not saying I am more decent. I am saying it’s not cultural because a mother’s instinct is to do everything in her power to protect her offspring, from others and from himself. My instinct is to give up my life before allowing my child to ruin his future, especially for me.

I agree. She’s weak. If her marriage was so abusive, she had plenty of opportunities to divorce him, instead of running to her teenaged son for help.

A woman I know was in an abusive relationship - which she hid from her sons. One final night when her husband and another man attempted to rape her she kept them away from her using various 'trickery' - she was asked in court why didn't she call to her 16 yr old son sleeping in the house, she said she could not imagine bringing her son into that situation, that her job was to protect him from that happening.

i’m guessing they knew he wouldn’t be convicted cause the evidence wouldn’t match up

This happens all the time! Every time a woman is being abused, instead of her having the GD balls to act, nip it in the bud, or PhfruQk'n leave, she'll play poor, weak, defenseless in order to get help.

@@jeep19 damn, chill andrew tate.

@@jeep19 the father was abusive.

@@jeep19 Who feels it knows it. Easier said than done. You are completely wrong to judge this abused woman.

Totally, I hate when people say that they’re staying because of kids. They’re not doing any favourite to their children. On the contrary.

easy to say, hard to do.... if everyone was that strong, then there would be no abuse in this world. but yes I agree, parents have to muster their strength and leave somehow

Couldn’t agree more

If you haven't lived it...don't JUDGE!

@@tambui2587 same story here fam. it is traumatizing.

i completely agree. why didn’t she just say she did it in self defense?

They said she “wasn’t strong enough to shoot the gun” if that’s the case she hired someone to kill him and letting the son take the rap for it. It’s truly sad. I’d go to jail for killing him especially if he was abusive. Honestly I’d take the rap for my daughter so she could live her life if it was a 1 time offense I knew she’d never do again so that she could live her life I’ve lived mine I’m 56

He did it . He bought the gun he shot him he admitted to it. Not everything is a conspiracy.

Tan is a Korean name, not Chinese.

@@swallowedinthesea11no it’s not.

lmao bffr they’re so messy

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Messyyyyyy😂

Because not all fathers deserve to be celebrated.

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We don’t know enough. The mother was obviously manipulative and selfish. The father was the victim. There was no proof she was a victim and was selfish enough to avoid accountability.

@@ryansantos6785exactly, why do you think she never followed through with a restraining order? She didn’t want a thorough investigation. She was building a case by calling police to her house. And letting people know she was “battered.” But in reality, she could have been planting that idea to culminate it in his murder and keeping all the money and the house.

​@picilocarnal then why didn't the man get her arrested and exposed all those years?

That’s exactly what I’m thinking. She has records and a phone recording of her being abused. That didn’t just start. He’s been beating her up.

I agree completely since I've lived it. My mother also pulled me into her world involving a 14 year old boy and depending way too much on him. SHE was the adult. It was HER relationship and hers alone - SHE needed to put on her big girl underwear and deal with it. The son undoubtedly felt an immense pressure, (albeit undue), to have to protect his mother. She probably didn't make a conscious effort to NOT involve her son. Hell, she called him at school complaining about the abuse. That's a tremendous mindfuck to put on a kid. It was weak and reckless and disrespectful and shameful and codependent AF!

Exactly. Just because she is a smaller woman doesn't mean that she can't or didn't pull the trigger. Smh

In many asian cultures it is the duty of the oldest son to protect everyone else in the family once the father is a deadbeat or dead.

If he’s willing to do that, imagine what else they’re willing to do. Especially after getting away with it the first time 🙂

@@dejuhvu1793 scary food for thought 😅

She’s probably emotionally abusing him

In©est relationship!

I have one child,a son but I'm not willing to ever do anything that would test our bond to this extent. That is absolutely not a flex what that mom did.

I don’t believe an Asian male can fire a 12 gauge. They have weak bone structure and are more adept to martial arts than duck hunting .

Thats that asian privilege

@@purplelove3666 I don't know what privilege Asians have (I am Asian, and I hope I do have some privilege:)). Talking about if the mother's size would have kept her from firing the shotgun. I don't know if the Police have investigated if she had ever fired a shotgun before. Had the Police checked the mother if she had any impact marks like bruises on her shoulder or torso possibly caused by the shotgun recoil.. . If she had never fired a shotgun before, I do believe she would have suffered some kinds of bruises if she was the one who pulled the trigger.

how lol?

@@purplelove3666 Cringe. Please, dedicate ALL of today to being better. You're the bottom of the barrel.

Naaaa they would still give her atleast 20 years, which is like a life sentence if your in your early 50s

Yeah, Mr. Tan got whacked on a gun charge and sentenced to 20 years. Gun control.

Charlie did it

@@IuItim Charlie bit my finger!

@@swallowedinthesea11 ouch Charlie 😂

A selfish, selfish woman.

No 😂

Went home in China ...

Wow what w horrible mother no be there to support her son🫢

See, what kind of hopeless mother.

Sorry excuse for a mother. 😡😡😡

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This is a murder case. Murder is about as criminal as you can get.

Did you even watch the video?? The guy was release and never charged.

YOu cant take the law into your own hands, his dad was sitting at his desk when he blew his face off. Do the crime, be prepared to do the crime.

@@heavyd9103 he was later charged for the weapon and got 20 years

Yup, mom is the greedy one here. She put her son up to it.

OK is he still in jail? I was trying to find an update on them but none.

@@jamirishmamahe is in jail. Serving 20 years.

@@IndiDe thank you. I found an update afterwards. A really messed up life. His brother is living in Indonesia or one of those Asian countries. I wonder what happened to his mom.

His life is over

How…? wtf?! I didn’t get that vibe at all. She sounded genuinely scared, and it’s already proven fact she was continuously violently abused by her husband during their entire relationship. Multiple witnesses seeing injuries and bruises. Cops came to house 12x in one year. Yet she fakes a call only to not want to get her husband arrested hence why he wasn’t? Makes no sense. Someone who fakes DV do so with the goal of getting their significant other in trouble. You prob just think it’s fake bc she has a heavy Asian accent. Ignorant af

Chinese opera vibes.

@@rubyparchment5523 Exactly😂😂😂😂

....like Shanda Van Ark after she had tortured her son. Crocodile tears?

​@@rubyparchment5523Chinese Opera is classier than this act.

Google him. He later confessed with details.

she would of probably got off for self defense anyway rather than a strong young man come on now.....

He admitted he tricked friend into buying g-. He planned to flee to china but changed his mind because he was afraid his mother or brother would be charged.

He was later charge for the murder weapon and given a 20yr sentence, he's in prison.

​@@Airamimosa😮😮😮

@@AiramimosaSad

@@AiramimosaThis is sad. 😢

Yes, all the years Charlie had to endure his dad abusing his mom and she waits until he’s an adult, to ruin his life. She’s a disgusting woman and mother.

I wonder if the 'abuse' was even real. Could just be a plan enacted to create a paper trail of unproven abuse, as it would prove beneficial no matter the end, either it be divorce or unaliving the husband...

@@N0xiety I've seen this case on other channels, and it was clear that there was abuse happening. However, she refused to get help. Charlie begged and begged her to leave him, but she wouldn't.

You're disgusted by the *victim* of **domestic violence** ? You even admit there was abuse happening. Yet you're mocking and deriding her terror and fear? Quite honestly, you're the disgusting one here. Get help.

Women who birth children in abusive households are beyond despicable The children don't choose it,the women do and all because they like the money,not the man

that doesn't equate to having her son to take her fall. I was a survivor of domestic violence, so close to death before i escaped with my 3 young boys all below 8 years of age. I will never let my son's life destroyed for my sake, no matter what. FYI I am asian too.

If you are mother you would never let your child take the fall. The parents business are theirs… exclude the child in the chaos. I hate that woman.

They made an agreement and he took the fall for her

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Exactly - size is no indicator of actual strength 💪🏽

Hate to type this, but how can we be so sure that she was being abused? What if she planned this for a long time, appeared in front of neighbors with bandage while the husband was at work, over time, and then called 911 now and then to report abuse when there was none....and then finally kill the guy? It would look exactly like she was acting in self defense. A woman could totally get away with it pretty easily I think!

@@SueP-jg9vx What you suggest would be extremely rare. The son was stable and a successful student. He had to have at least one good parent for guidance, and if he is defending his mother, it seems obvious that she was the good parent. Domestic violence is more common than what you might think, especially in certain cultures where they have more power hierarchies.

​@@SueP-jg9vxreally? She acted for a long time before she killed him? Why but just walk away and talk half? Lol you make 0 sense.

@@umadbra maybe she hated him and wanted ALL and not half?

CPS never works in good faith. They legally kidnapp kids daily

Every single word you said on your statements is genuinely correct Unfortunately all the officials involved in this case are above the law that's why they haven't been held accountable for their incompetence

They didn’t protect the child. All they did was ruin a child into thinking her father is a horrible person. And they stole 2 kids from the father. The least they could have done was to apologize. 😢

It’s racism

I totally agree with you on this . They needed to be sued for being so irresponsible OR maybe the racism matter ????

Congrats you and only one other person was able to call her out!!!!

O m g you're right it looks exactly like her

@@Taureanfitnesslol it is her, Sandra Doorley.

There’s an update in the comments that he admitted to killing him by a letter.

Correct, ppl say it’s 20 years. I feel sorry for Charlie for being embroiled in all this. His life is ruined.

someone was murdered.

Not to mention illegal

@@supme7558 it not illegal to buy a gun and give it to someone. is it stupid yes, as long as the friends is kept in the dark. he can't be convicted. hell, it not even required to registered a handgun or shotgun. gun law are pretty much non existent once you bought it.

Why would you let your friend have a gun to use.. and you know Charlie told him... or if he absolutely didn't say a word but I still wouldn't let my friend have a shotgun

@@adriennem7927 Can't imagine the abuse or tales charlie told his friend. There is a paper trail of abuse from the father. Just saying

This must be years ago because now its impossible to buy a gun from Walmart and walk away with it the same day

It's a little more complicated than that.

@@TrojansFirsthow so?

We have no right to judge d mother cuz we don't know what really happened behind doors

You’d have to have been in a bitter end of an abusive relationship. Otherwise, you probably won’t understand. And Imagine your mum giving u one last call before she offed herself too.

​@jannahpablosky4282 Move past this nonsense. We have no right to judge the mother, but the son can be judged. The sheer hypocrisy is astounding. People are literally judged daily at work, school, subconsciously by themselves and others; even convicts face evaluation in court.

You know the mum could have gotten a lesser punishment since shes got years of evidence of domestic violence, but to throw the son under the bus is simply beyond words.

She could have left him and got a freaking job .

We need to create more laws to protect women. The Abused have to deal with a psychopath at home and the police can do nothing??? We need to allow automatic orders of protection.

Children can be loyal to a fault to their parents, Charlie Tan was being railroaded by his Mom 😮SMDH 😢 Common sense points to the Mom, hands down, she did what other people don't do, sit in an interrogation room and NOT talk but they might have planned this together 🤨

A Chinese mother, trust me !!!

​@mpmartin1588 .......what is that suppose to mean?

I'm pretty sure it was the son's idea to all this. He had it all calculated and he knew he could get away with a mistrial. Remember, he's part of the fraternity at Cornell, a place with no shortage of legal experts. Heck, I think even the judge was playing a role in his favorite.

@@mpmartin1588it’s nothing unusual for some mothers to lean on their son as their man! You see it time and time again with young males working trying to pay bills while momma lays at home….

He didn’t take the fall.

Most mothers will do the right, the selfish mum let her son take her fall!

Punching bag.

Gullable

I thought I recognized her! And you’re right! What she did irritates me to the core!

What happened

​@@dayoungstunnaa24 search her name on KZfaq and prepare to be appalled by her behavior upon attempting to pull her over

@@dayoungstunnaa24 she running her mouth on a cop. look it up

Or she could just divorce her husband Did anyone force her to live with him ??

Sorry to the good heart son!

son confessed & is now in prison for twenty yrs.

20 yrs is too much , for a first time pow pow charge 🙄. They could've given him probation. 😢

@cocoace7587 They’re charging him with other things on the pretext of gun possession. 20 years is almost a manslaughter charge. I feel sorry for Charlie..

It's a rifle, not a handgun. Not a woman would buy

Polygyny is a thing. If a man has money, a man has moves.

She clearly did it

she can do anything she wants, but ultimately letting the son take the fall is the biggest crime she had done. Throwing away her own son's future for some comfort at home and pocket full of cash? She don't deserved to be call his mum.

They wouldn't think that ,about a petit black woman

@@purplelove3666 In 2010, Jodi Arias, a petite woman, was convicted of murdering her ex-boyfriend, Travis Alexander. Despite her small stature, she displayed significant strength and determination in committing the crime. Women of all races, even petite ones, possess incredible strength, especially when enraged. Their resilience and fierce determination make them unstoppable. A woman full of anger can exhibit incredible strength due to the adrenaline surge, which boosts her physical power and sharpens her focus, making her a force to be reckoned with regardless of race.

@@Trainfeastfast read my comment again

Oh yeah! I thought that her name sounded familiar! I guess Jean drove her to drive drunk 😂

Good call. Now that u mentioned it, it came back to me when I saw that KZfaq video of Doorley refusing to pull her vehicle over with the cop right on her tail, “lighting her up.” Boy, that incident made her out to look like one condescending, entitled “B-word”, just because she happens to be the DA for Rochester, NY. She of all people should know she’s not “above the law.”

I was really repulsed by the prosecutors. It's their job to ensure justice is seen, not to assume his guilt before it's even been tested in a court of law. They acted like they were upset they couldn't go after him. Didn't respect that.

Damn, she's not right then.

Everything she's ever prosecuted should be thrown out her behavior that day showed how devious she could be and who knows how many innocent people she has in jail.

What’s a father?

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Exactly

Uhhh that’s the definition of betrayal lol. You can’t become betrayed by those who are strangers, distant from you, etc… duh

​@@lynnlowwyes anyone can become betrayed by a stranger. The context in which the phrase is applied helps in determining the situation it suits. For instance the gilgo beach serial killer, killed hookers. In this case the hookers did not know rex huerman. In the context that the above commenter used the phrase being betrayed by people you know. Applies to the case of the ivy league son who killed his father over money.

True Crime messy 😂

He’s in prison?

She is a selfish murder. There is no proof she was abused. She let her son take the blame she obviously not a good person. Woman lie. She had enough time to prove her allegations. She was probably seeing someone and her boyfriend did it. Then she manipulated her son. Everything that can be proven says the mother was a monster.

@@ryansantos6785 yall say anything to discredit a woman who was abused. Men do everything except reflect and accept the monsters they are. The son had a choice and he should be held equally accountable for his part in it to as unfortunate as it is.

The case was dismissed. How could he still be in prison?

​@@ryansantos6785no proof doesn't mean that abuse did not occur

He admitted to it.

Correct, the prosecutor just wanted to blame someone to show that they’re so capable of bringing charges. 20 years is akin to a manslaughter charge! There’s not enough evidence to show Charlie pulled the trigger. It’s a tragedy all around. His life is over cos of his mother’s messy relationship with his father. 😭

They went after him for reasons other than justice ...he had it all. They just wanted to crush him... despicable

@@femdivinemind7777 Indeed! It makes me wonder whether that one tenacious prosecutor, who was called out by the judge, beats up his own wife and kids. This story hits hard, because I had a lot of Asian high school students, and I well remember what some of them went through with their immigrant parents when all they wanted to do was be plain old American kids.

It’s never a relationship when the kid can’t consent, just abuse

She may not LEGALLY have the right to 'consent' but at 15 and 'in love' she might go willingly. This does NOT let HIM off the hook, he's old enough to know better

Exactly. He’s a predator and the school was complacent. The wife AND the girls family should sue the school!!

@@jillp3761 I know what you mean. We’ve all been a teen thinking we were in love. At that age it’s a powerful emotion. But I also remember when I was 15, I’d fall out of “love” just as fast. It’s so insidious to go after minors. It floors me people seem to forget what they were like as a teen. We all thought we knew what we wanted at 15, and by 18 we’re completely different people.

Clap for yourself

I blame Will Smith for everything wrong with the world !!!!!!

@@extendedplay8830 "Well, slap my face and call me silly!!"

No ..the gun did it !

You should not play with death.

The thinking of abused people is very different from people not being abused. We can never know what they were thinking and why. They definitely didn’t do it for no reason

@@sheenabailey I am not surprised that someone may want to get revenge from someone who was abusing them, but if people are thinking correctly, they should choose an option that punishes their abuser but leaves them living a great life, not in a prison... for example, there are people who report their abuser to the system, they are put on a protection program and they cut all ties with the abuser for ever... but that needs a person with strong decision who can cut ties with people.

Some People can be extreme for no reason

Why not just leave him. The police gave her a card to call them to further pursue legal action

why didn’t she complete the protection order the cops gave her? she’s a selfish witch. she ruined her son’s life

​@@Ryder.Padghamlike it's that simple for battered women to up and leave their abuser. Culture beliefs probably were the reason she remained in the marriage, fear of shame and dishonor if she left

@@dontbelongherefromanotherp9807she wasn’t concerned with cultural beliefs when they moved to America to raise they’re son. She also called the police countless times. She had all the resources she needed to leave him AND live a good life. She’s selfish and a terrible mother.

Naive and relish victimhood. Incompetent as a future wife and a liability to a good man

She’s really after this kid, isn’t she? What does this say about her life?

@deekang6244 Exactly. Hate this kind of self-righteous woman. She must be happy ruining his life. He’s charged with 20 years, which is almost a manslaughter charge! She just had to show she’s so upright and capable of bringing charges 🙄🙄. Super gross.

@ABC-ed8cg you seen her bodycam video where she disobeys everything the police officer says after refusing to pull over and speeding home?

There is no proof of beatings. That phone call was fake.

I've been watching tons of Asian series, on Netflix. It is disheartening watching the kids pushed so hard . A lot of them end up with anxiety or worse. They act out in school , especially if the pressure is overwhelming, at home . 😢

@@cocoace7587 there are healthy and toxic ways to have kids pursue things which are good for them. The way they do it is toxic and traumatic for their kids.

That's why South Korea has such a high suicide rate. Pregnant teens would rather kill themselves than deal with the disappointment of their parents.

I've seen several cases where they've killed their parents, not always due to pressure, but from a sense of entitlement to their parents' money, because they are failing and didn't want the parents to know because they couldn't live up to expectations, because they wanted to live their own lives. I can think of about 4 or 5 cases off the top of my head. The guy who murdered both parents in their home and just left their bodies in the house for years. No one suspected. Years later he and a friend removed the bodies. He told a gf. She said nothing to the police until he dumped her. The house has been resold I think but the cops found their blood under the floorboards. In another case, a daughter hired some dudes or her boyfriend did to come into the house in a home invasion and kill her parents. She got caught because the dad lived and there were too many discrepancies. The dad overheard her talking to the home Invaders. That story has been told many times on true crime. Sure was actually on her 20's and could have just left home. She had been lying about being in college all along. In another case, the kid murdered his parents blood was everywhere. Me just wanted the money. And the cops took him back in the home for a walk through, because supposedly it was another home invasion and they suspected him from day one. In another case the girl wanted to date this guy that the parents didn't approve of so she and her boyfriend or just her alone, I can't remember the details, killed the parents. Several other cases, I can't recall the details on. All of these cases have been featured on True Crime shows.